Re: [Vserver] vservers start very slow after a reboot

2006-06-26 Thread GarconDuMonde
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hil

Benedict Verheyen wrote:
 i had problems with vservers not starting (or so i thought) after a system
 reboot on my Debian Sarge.
 Some particulars of my system:
 - debootstrap install of vservers
 - most vservers have at least 1 shared directories with host (apt cache)
 - hashified
 - lastest util-vserver
 - kernel 2.6.16
 - debian sarge
 - 7 vservers
 
 What happened when i rebooted is that i saw these lines:
 --
 Fixing visibility of /proc entries for vservers...done
 Starting vservers of type default...
 --
 
 And then it seemed as if my system hung but i could actually do a 3
 fingered salute. So hanging is not the right wording, rather not
 responding.

i actually had the same problem... you go onto describe how you (almost) figured
out the problem in this email, it seems that you didn't quite make the final
connection: it's not really a problem with the vservers themselves taking a long
time, it's a problem in the order in which they are starting, with the non-dns
vservers starting first and therefore hanging whilst they wait for network
connections to time out.

 I had what appeared to be some dead links in my /etc/rc2.d:
 vprocunhide rebootmgr vservers-default vservers-legacy
 They don't seem to be used anymore so i removed them. Now only a link to
 /etc/init.d/util-vserver is in there
 
 Anyway, i edited /etc/default/util-vserver and set the following:
 mark=
 auto=false

i did this as well. it temporarily solves the problem to find the answer, as you
say.

 This prevented the vservers to load on boot (which i actually want and
 need but disabled to see what's going on).
 I then rebooted and started a vserver manually and instead of the startup
 lines zipping by it took ages for it to print some lines so now i knew
 Starting vservers of type default... was actually not hanging my
 computer but rather just going very very slow.

which lines? i suspect they are the ones about various network connections for
your vserver (trying to resolve hostname, for example).

 I started all my vservers and after about 10 minutes (i had started an uml
 to get DNS going) i decided to shut down the uml that provided dns and
 start the vserver instead that also provides dns.
 Well, to my surprise, that one started quickly again.
 Entering the vservers was also quick again. Very strange.

no - you now have your dns working, hence it doesn't need to wait for network
timeouts.

 Now it all works again but as you can imagine, i wouldn't want to reboot :)
 
 1. What could be causing the slow startup?
 
 2. What links are necessary in /etc/rc2.d?
 vprocunhide, rebootmgr, vservers-default  vservers-legacy point nowhere
 only util-vserver seems to be valid

i've got the similar system set up as you (debian sarge 2.6.16 etc). there was
something like:

/etc/init.d/vserver-default

and created

/etc/init.d/vserver-dnsserver
/etc/init.d/vserver-mailserver

etc, so that i could start the vservers in a specific order by linking them into
/etc/rc?.d/* as appropriate.

 3.  I have my DNS inside a vserver, so the DNS vserver should be started
 as early as possible.
 How do i do that if the links above aren't valid?
 Can i move the util-vserver link and then use the mark file to accomplish
 that?

you still use the mark file to specifiy which start-up script starts which 
vserver:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/vservers/vsdns/apps/init/mark
dnsserver
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/vservers/vsmail/apps/init/mark
mailserver
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/vservers/vshttp/apps/init/mark
default

so i can get them to start in what ever order i like, depending upon the order
in /etc/rc?.d/ .

 4. Is there a way to start some vservers early and other less critical
 vservers at the end of the boot sequence?

as above.

 Some more information:
 
 testme.sh
 Linux-VServer Test [V0.15] Copyright (C) 2003-2006 H.Poetzl
 chcontext is working.
 chbind is working.
 Linux 2.6.16-vs2.0.2-rc15.10apr2006 #1 Tue Apr 11 13:02:54 CEST 2006 i686
 Ea 0.30.210 273/glibc (DSa) compat,v11,fscompat,v13,net,oldproc,olduts
 VCI: 0002:0001 273 0336 (TbLgnP)
 ---
 [000]# succeeded.
 [001]# succeeded.
 [011]# succeeded.
 [031]# succeeded.
 [101]# succeeded.
 [102]# succeeded.
 [201]# succeeded.
 [202]# succeeded.
 
 vserver-info - SYSINFO
 ==
 Versions:
Kernel: 2.6.16-vs2.0.2-rc15.10apr2006
VS-API: 0x00020001
  util-vserver: 0.30.210; Apr 19 2006, 16:06:42
 
 Features:
CC: gcc, gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)
   CXX: g++, g++ (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)
  CPPFLAGS: ''
CFLAGS: '-Wall -g  -O2 -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -W'
  CXXFLAGS: '-g -O2 -ansi -Wall -pedantic -W
 

[Vserver] OpenVCP Beta released

2006-06-26 Thread Gerrit Wyen
hi,
we quite recently released the first beta of OpenVCP licensed under the
GPL. OpenVCP provides a web-based interface to manage a whole farm of
VServer hosts, build guests, account traffic and a bit more. For details
take a look at the screenshots.

Project Page:
http://www.openvcp.org

Screenshots:
http://www.openvcp.org/wiki/Screenshots


Sincerely,
Gerrit Wyen

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Re: [Vserver] update your account

2006-06-26 Thread infowolfe

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Re: [Vserver] Cloning/Copying ... again!

2006-06-26 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Marcus Mülbüsch wrote:

I'm trying to make copies of a Vserver guest.  These will all be on
the same system.


...

Is this a good route or are there other methods that will be 
fast/safer/whatever?



I was hoping that util-vserver would provide that by
now, but as far as I know, it still doesn't ...



Isn't that what vserver [...] clone effectively does?

(vserver-copy does'nt do it, even if it promises to do so.)

Or am I missing something here?


Well I'm missing quite a bit of documentation.  I've tried the man page 
( is the old one for Jacques' vserver-utils ) and a vserver --help has 
no mention of a clone option/method.


Of course there is the source which I will be looking as time permits.


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Re: [Vserver] update your account

2006-06-26 Thread Guenther Fuchs
Hi there,

on Monday, June 26, 2006 at 4:57:11 PM there was posted:

i any chance someone can setup some type of spam filtering on this
i list?

Although this might be a good idea though, posting a full-quote spam
is a very bad one. I wouldn't have seen this, if it wouldn't have been
quoted and reposted.

Pls keep this in mind when requesting a spam filter again, thanks.

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Re: [Vserver] vservers start very slow after a reboot

2006-06-26 Thread Benedict Verheyen
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 hil

 Benedict Verheyen wrote:
 i had problems with vservers not starting (or so i thought) after a
 system
 reboot on my Debian Sarge.
 Some particulars of my system:
 - debootstrap install of vservers
 - most vservers have at least 1 shared directories with host (apt cache)
 - hashified
 - lastest util-vserver
 - kernel 2.6.16
 - debian sarge
 - 7 vservers

 What happened when i rebooted is that i saw these lines:
 --
 Fixing visibility of /proc entries for vservers...done
 Starting vservers of type default...
 --

 And then it seemed as if my system hung but i could actually do a 3
 fingered salute. So hanging is not the right wording, rather not
 responding.

 i actually had the same problem... you go onto describe how you (almost)
 figured
 out the problem in this email, it seems that you didn't quite make the
 final
 connection: it's not really a problem with the vservers themselves taking
 a long
 time, it's a problem in the order in which they are starting, with the
 non-dns
 vservers starting first and therefore hanging whilst they wait for network
 connections to time out.

 I had what appeared to be some dead links in my /etc/rc2.d:
 vprocunhide rebootmgr vservers-default vservers-legacy
 They don't seem to be used anymore so i removed them. Now only a link to
 /etc/init.d/util-vserver is in there

 Anyway, i edited /etc/default/util-vserver and set the following:
 mark=
 auto=false

 i did this as well. it temporarily solves the problem to find the answer,
 as you
 say.

 This prevented the vservers to load on boot (which i actually want and
 need but disabled to see what's going on).
 I then rebooted and started a vserver manually and instead of the
 startup
 lines zipping by it took ages for it to print some lines so now i knew
 Starting vservers of type default... was actually not hanging my
 computer but rather just going very very slow.

 which lines? i suspect they are the ones about various network connections
 for
 your vserver (trying to resolve hostname, for example).

 I started all my vservers and after about 10 minutes (i had started an
 uml
 to get DNS going) i decided to shut down the uml that provided dns and
 start the vserver instead that also provides dns.
 Well, to my surprise, that one started quickly again.
 Entering the vservers was also quick again. Very strange.

 no - you now have your dns working, hence it doesn't need to wait for
 network
 timeouts.

 Now it all works again but as you can imagine, i wouldn't want to reboot
 :)

 1. What could be causing the slow startup?

 2. What links are necessary in /etc/rc2.d?
 vprocunhide, rebootmgr, vservers-default  vservers-legacy point nowhere
 only util-vserver seems to be valid

 i've got the similar system set up as you (debian sarge 2.6.16 etc). there
 was
 something like:

 /etc/init.d/vserver-default

 and created

 /etc/init.d/vserver-dnsserver
 /etc/init.d/vserver-mailserver

 etc, so that i could start the vservers in a specific order by linking
 them into
 /etc/rc?.d/* as appropriate.

 3.  I have my DNS inside a vserver, so the DNS vserver should be started
 as early as possible.
 How do i do that if the links above aren't valid?
 Can i move the util-vserver link and then use the mark file to
 accomplish
 that?

 you still use the mark file to specifiy which start-up script starts which
 vserver:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/vservers/vsdns/apps/init/mark
 dnsserver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/vservers/vsmail/apps/init/mark
 mailserver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/vservers/vshttp/apps/init/mark
 default

 so i can get them to start in what ever order i like, depending upon the
 order
 in /etc/rc?.d/ .

 4. Is there a way to start some vservers early and other less critical
 vservers at the end of the boot sequence?

 as above.

 Some more information:

 testme.sh
 Linux-VServer Test [V0.15] Copyright (C) 2003-2006 H.Poetzl
 chcontext is working.
 chbind is working.
 Linux 2.6.16-vs2.0.2-rc15.10apr2006 #1 Tue Apr 11 13:02:54 CEST 2006
 i686
 Ea 0.30.210 273/glibc (DSa) compat,v11,fscompat,v13,net,oldproc,olduts
 VCI: 0002:0001 273 0336 (TbLgnP)
 ---
 [000]# succeeded.
 [001]# succeeded.
 [011]# succeeded.
 [031]# succeeded.
 [101]# succeeded.
 [102]# succeeded.
 [201]# succeeded.
 [202]# succeeded.

 vserver-info - SYSINFO
 ==
 Versions:
Kernel: 2.6.16-vs2.0.2-rc15.10apr2006
VS-API: 0x00020001
  util-vserver: 0.30.210; Apr 19 2006, 16:06:42

 Features:
CC: gcc, gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)
   CXX: g++, g++ (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)
  CPPFLAGS: ''
CFLAGS: '-Wall -g  -O2 -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -W'
  CXXFLAGS: '-g -O2 

[Vserver] Wiki down?

2006-06-26 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Is there an issue with vserver.strahlungsfrei.de.  I keep getting 
timeouts and can't get the wiki to show up.


While waiting on this; does anyone have some documentation handy on 
using vhashify and how it works?  I've got my first 5 vserver guests 
created and want(/need?) to do this as most of them will be very similar.



TIA,
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Re: [Vserver] Wiki down?

2006-06-26 Thread Daniel Hokka Zakrisson

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there an issue with vserver.strahlungsfrei.de.  I keep getting 
timeouts and can't get the wiki to show up.


While waiting on this; does anyone have some documentation handy on 
using vhashify and how it works?  I've got my first 5 vserver guests 
created and want(/need?) to do this as most of them will be very similar.


http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver has a section on it.

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Re: [Vserver] Wiki down?

2006-06-26 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Daniel Hokka Zakrisson wrote:

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:

Is there an issue with vserver.strahlungsfrei.de.  I keep getting 
timeouts and can't get the wiki to show up.


While waiting on this; does anyone have some documentation handy on 
using vhashify and how it works?  I've got my first 5 vserver guests 
created and want(/need?) to do this as most of them will be very similar.



http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver has a section on it.


Thanks Daniel.

I'm looking at it right now and trying a vhashify on one of my _less_ 
strategic guests.  Ie. it can be replaced.  :-)


I thought I had all the pieces in place but got these three errors:

error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
Duplicate hash-dir entry '0' found

The first might be the RPM move from Berkley db version 3 to version 4 
and so version 3 doesn't get installed.  A quick check with rpm shows 
only db4.  Bug in vhashify or in some RPM libraries is is using?


The second is strange ( unless it is related to the first. )  There are 
RPM databases in /var/lib/rpm .


The last I can figure out as somehow both a '0' and '00' got created in 
the '/etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vunify/hash/' directory.  I did the 0 
and the 00 got ( by date stamp ) created last week when I was building a 
'new' guest.  So the error is probably coming from the vhashify binary 
having trouble by treating the '0' and '00' as numeric instead of as 
alphanumeric.



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Re: [Vserver] OpenVCP Beta released

2006-06-26 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 04:09:31PM +0200, Gerrit Wyen wrote:
 hi,
 we quite recently released the first beta of OpenVCP licensed under
 the GPL. OpenVCP provides a web-based interface to manage a whole farm
 of VServer hosts, build guests, account traffic and a bit more. For
 details take a look at the screenshots.

great! thanks a lot!

best,
Herbert

 Project Page:
 http://www.openvcp.org
 
 Screenshots:
 http://www.openvcp.org/wiki/Screenshots
 
 
 Sincerely,
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Re: [Vserver] vservers start very slow after a reboot

2006-06-26 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 06:22:44PM +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote:

[a lot of stuff zapped]

 Hi,
 
 
 thanks for the info. I think your suggestions will actually solve the
 problem i'm having.
 Thing is that i'm not sure on how to do it correctly on Debian.
 I have a util-vserver script in /etc/init.d
 which is linked to from rc2.d:
 S23util-vserver - ../init.d/util-vserver

please check my reply to the original question, it
is probably the much better solution if you 'just'
require a proper order

of course, the different runlevel scripts make
perfect sense if you actually _use_ different
runlevels for your host system

 In /etc/default/util-vserver i reread this comment:
 # The vserver initscript runs late in the boot-up sequence, which may
 # be inappropriate for services that need to run earlier, such as
 # nameservers or VPN tunnels. If a copy of the initscript is made to
 # run at an earlier position, you can then set $MARK to be those vservers
 # that you want to run then.
 #MARK=default
 
 This is confusing to me. The comment says to copy the initscript for those
 servers that need to be started earlier but the script looks at
 /etc/default/util-vserver to find info on what servers to start first.
 So how do i do that? I could copy the script, copy /etc/default/util-vserver
 and adjust the MARK  AUTO parameters there but i don't think that's the
 proper way to deal with this problem or is it?
 
 Looking at the /etc/init.d/util-vserver script (added as extra info
 below), i could make a copy and then put this code in comment
 
 DEBIANCONFIG=/etc/default/util-vserver
 
 if [ -f $DEBIANCONFIG ]
 then
 . $DEBIANCONFIG
 fi
 
 Then add MARK  AUTO in there. For instance, MARK=dnsserver  AUTO=true
 Next make a link to this script from /etc/rc2.d at an early stage.
 Is this how it should be done?

best,
Herbert

 
 Thanks,
 Benedict

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Re: [Vserver] Cloning/Copying ... again!

2006-06-26 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 01:37:26PM +0200, Marcus Mülbüsch wrote:
 I'm trying to make copies of a Vserver guest.  These will all be on
 the same system.
 ...
 Is this a good route or are there other methods that will be 
 fast/safer/whatever?
 
 I was hoping that util-vserver would provide that by
 now, but as far as I know, it still doesn't ...
 
 Isn't that what vserver [...] clone effectively does?

yes, is it already part of 0.30.210? guess I have
to revisit the tools and see what of daniels stuff
did get in and what not ... 

 (vserver-copy does'nt do it, even if it promises to do so.)

that is supposed to 'copy' the host system into
a guest (basically creating a copy of the host)

 Or am I missing something here?

best,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] Cloning/Copying ... again!

2006-06-26 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Herbert Poetzl wrote:

On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 01:37:26PM +0200, Marcus Mülbüsch wrote:


I'm trying to make copies of a Vserver guest.  These will all be on
the same system.


...

Is this a good route or are there other methods that will be 
fast/safer/whatever?


I was hoping that util-vserver would provide that by
now, but as far as I know, it still doesn't ...


Isn't that what vserver [...] clone effectively does?



yes, is it already part of 0.30.210? guess I have
to revisit the tools and see what of daniels stuff
did get in and what not ... 




(vserver-copy does'nt do it, even if it promises to do so.)



that is supposed to 'copy' the host system into
a guest (basically creating a copy of the host)


As I discovered with more reading.  I've got the -m skeleton and copy -a 
going great.  Playing with vhashify right now to see how it affects the 
operation.



Thanks,
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Re: [Vserver] [x86] 2.6.17-1.2139_FC5.vs2.0.2.0.rc24.1works fine

2006-06-26 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Guenther Fuchs wrote:

Hi there,

4tr - newest FC5 rpm kernel (Daniels 2.6.17) works fine here:


Whew!  I just started a yum update at noon then went back to my day job. 
 I would have just trusted Daniel's excellent work and rebooted the 
system ( remote about 35 miles away ).  Now I can _just_ trust Daniel's 
work  :-)



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# ./testme.sh -Lv
Linux-VServer Test [V0.15] Copyright (C) 2003-2006 H.Poetzl
chcontext is working.
chbind is working.
chcontext 0.30.210 -- allocates/enters a security context
This program is part of util-vserver 0.30.210

Copyright (C) 2004 Enrico Scholz
This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of
the GNU General Public License.  This program has absolutely no warranty.
Linux 2.6.17-1.2139_FC5.vs2.0.2.0.rc24.1 #1 Fri Jun 23 23:23:28 EDT 2006 i686
Ea 0.30.210 273/glibc (DSa) compat,v11,fscompat,v13,net,oldproc,olduts
VCI: 0002:0001 273 03010036 (TbLgnPD)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(gcc version 4.1.1 20060525 (Red Hat 4.1.1-1))
#1 Fri Jun 23 23:23:28 EDT 2006
---
[000]# chcontext  true  chcontext --xid 45678 true
[000]# succeeded.
[001]# chcontext --xid 45678 egrep 'context|VxID' /proc/self/status
[001]# succeeded.
[011]# chcontext --secure --xid 45678 mknod /tmp/testme.sh.T17001/node c 0 0
[011]# succeeded.
[031]# chcontext  --hostname zaphod.16998 uname -a | grep -q zaphod.16998
[031]# succeeded.
[101]# chbind  --ip 192.168.0.42 true
[101]# succeeded.
[102]# chbind  --ip 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0 --ip 10.0.0.1/24 true
[102]# succeeded.
[201]# chcontext --xid 45678 --flag fakeinit bash -c 'test $$ -eq 1'
[201]# succeeded.
[202]# chcontext  --flag fakeinit bash -c 'test $$ -eq 1'
[202]# succeeded.
---
[L01]# chcontext --xid 45601 bash -c 'true '
[L01]# succeeded.
[D01]# chcontext bash -c 'true '
[D01]# succeeded.
[L02]# chcontext --xid 45602 bash -c 'true | true'
[L02]# succeeded.
[D02]# chcontext bash -c 'true | true'
[D02]# succeeded.
[L03]# chcontext --xid 45603 bash -c 'true  true'
[L03]# succeeded.
[D03]# chcontext bash -c 'true  true'
[D03]# succeeded.
[L11]# chcontext --xid 45611 bash -c 'true /dev/null' /dev/zero
[L11]# succeeded.
[D11]# chcontext bash -c 'true /dev/null' /dev/zero
[D11]# succeeded.
[L12]# chcontext --xid 45612 bash -c 'true /dev/zero' /dev/null
[L12]# succeeded.
[D12]# chcontext bash -c 'true /dev/zero' /dev/null
[D12]# succeeded.
[L21]# chcontext --xid 45621 bash -c 'bash -c true '
[L21]# succeeded.
[D21]# chcontext bash -c 'bash -c true '
[D21]# succeeded.
[L22]# chcontext --xid 45622 bash -c 'bash -c false | true '
[L22]# succeeded.
[D22]# chcontext bash -c 'bash -c false | true '
[D22]# succeeded.
[L31]# chcontext --xid 45631 bash -c 'echo `ls`'
[L31]# succeeded.
[D31]# chcontext bash -c 'echo `ls`'
[D31]# succeeded.
--- snap ---



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