[Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Oliver Welter
Hi Guys,

this is mainly for hollow et al - what is the latest ebuild you will
consider good for production of the 2.1 series ?

I am currently running 2.6.15.4-vs2.1.1-rc6-gentoo and want to upgrade
due to the latest kernel bugs

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Re: [Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Heim
On Thursday, 07. September. 2006 12:35, Oliver Welter wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 this is mainly for hollow et al - what is the latest ebuild you will
 consider good for production of the 2.1 series ?

 I am currently running 2.6.15.4-vs2.1.1-rc6-gentoo and want to upgrade
 due to the latest kernel bugs

Due to the speed the _rc's occured, we thought that moving those ebuilds to 
our project overlay [1] would make sense. The overlay is subversion based, 
but you should be able to grab it via wget (or similar) if you can't/wont 
install subversion just for this single repo.

TIA, Christian

[1] http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vps

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Re: [Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Marcus Mülbüsch
Due to the speed the _rc's occured, we thought that moving those ebuilds to 
our project overlay [1] would make sense. The overlay is subversion based, 
but you should be able to grab it via wget (or similar) if you can't/wont 
install subversion just for this single repo.


TIA, Christian

[1] http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vps


  Wouldn't it be nice to post a short message to the list if a new 
revision comes up? Somehow I missed revisions 41 to 43 the last week...


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Re: [Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Oliver Welter
Hi Christian,

question as missleading - I know the overlay but I wonder if there is
some categorization about quite stable / bleeding edge in the rcs or
if it is ok to take always the latest one.

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Re: [Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Thu September 7 2006 06:52, Marcus wrote:
  Due to the speed the _rc's occured, we thought that moving those ebuilds to 
  our project overlay [1] would make sense. The overlay is subversion based, 
  but you should be able to grab it via wget (or similar) if you can't/wont 
  install subversion just for this single repo.
  
  TIA, Christian
  
  [1] http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vps
 
Wouldn't it be nice to post a short message to the list if a new 
 revision comes up? Somehow I missed revisions 41 to 43 the last week...
 

Try the live bookmark:
http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/vps/timeline?changeset=onwiki=onmax=50daysback=90format=rss

Mike
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[Vserver] 64bit environment

2006-09-07 Thread Chuck
I am getting ready do set up a new vserver host using Opterons..  however some 
of the guests will be pre-compiled 32bit such as CentOS.. if the host Gentoo 
is AMD64 will this cause problems? Should I just do x86 i686 all the way 
around and use CFLAGS to optimize for Opteron?

It must be extremely stable.

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Re: [Vserver] 64bit environment

2006-09-07 Thread Admin
On Thursday 07 September 2006 21:52, Chuck wrote:
 I am getting ready do set up a new vserver host using Opterons..  however
 some of the guests will be pre-compiled 32bit such as CentOS.. if the host
 Gentoo is AMD64 will this cause problems? Should I just do x86 i686 all the
 way around and use CFLAGS to optimize for Opteron?

 It must be extremely stable.

With a 64bit kernel you can avoid the issues that arise with 2G ram on 32bit 
platforms (having to choose how to split the 4G address space or use the PAE 
extensions)

You will need to enable CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION to run 32bit guests

You don't have to run a 64bit userland for the host. For the most 
platform-compatible setup you can compile 32 and 64bit kernels (crossdev on 
gentoo makes this very easy) and choose which to run at boot This allows you 
to bring the host and 32bit vservers up on on a 32bit platform if required 
(DR situation or whatever). This is assuming that the issues with 32bit 
util-vserver tools on a 64bit kernel have been resolved.

I use amd64 gentoo (userland and kernel) for the host and 32 and 64bit gentoo 
guests depending on requirements.

Admin

Cross-compiling a 64bit kernel on 32bit gentoo:
echo 'PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage'  /etc/make.conf
mkdir /usr/local/portage
emerge sys-devel/crossdev
crossdev -s1 -t x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
cd /usr/src
cp -pr linux-kernel-vserver linux-kernel-vserver-x86_64
cd linux-kernel-vserver-x86_64
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- mrproper
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- menuconfig
# General Setup --- Local version - append to kernel release: -x86_64
# Executable file formats / Emulations ---IA32 Emulation
make -j5 ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-
make -j5 ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- modules_install
mount /boot
cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-kernel-vserver-x86_64
vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
...add new 64bit kernel entry

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Re: [Vserver] 64bit environment

2006-09-07 Thread Daniel Hokka Zakrisson

Admin wrote:
You don't have to run a 64bit userland for the host. For the most 
platform-compatible setup you can compile 32 and 64bit kernels (crossdev on 
gentoo makes this very easy) and choose which to run at boot This allows you 
to bring the host and 32bit vservers up on on a 32bit platform if required 
(DR situation or whatever). This is assuming that the issues with 32bit 
util-vserver tools on a 64bit kernel have been resolved.


What issues would that be? IIRC, the only problem was with setting the 
rlimits, and that has indeed been fixed.


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Re: [Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Oliver Welter
Hi Christian

 Nope there is no categorization or rating in the svn-repo. I also wouldn't 
 use 
 the _rc's on a stable machine, since from time to time there's some bugs in 
 them that need to be fixed.

So - what do you suggest for using 2.1 on gentoo?
I run the 2.1 for over a year now without problems and dont want to go
back to 2.0 but want to update the kernel...

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[Vserver] FC3 386 Guest in FC4 x64 host

2006-09-07 Thread ehab heikal
Title: Message



I am trying to build 
an fc3 test system in and fc4 x86 when i install with vserver build and the 
option of distro is fc3 everything is ok until I try to internalize the package 
management , when doing this the package management inside the guest does not 
work also the installation defaults to installing x64 and I would rather have 
386.

I tried to unpack a 
prebuilt fc3 from lylix.net but the rpm inside the guest has an empty 
database.

a long time ago i 
remember in vserver on 2.4 kernels there was a utility that would interactively 
build anyguest is such a utility now available and compatible with the current 
2.6 kernels?
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Re: [Vserver] FC3 386 Guest in FC4 x64 host

2006-09-07 Thread Daniel Hokka Zakrisson

ehab heikal wrote:
I am trying to build an fc3 test system in and fc4 x86 when i install 
with vserver build and the option of distro is fc3 everything is ok 
until I try to internalize the package management , when doing this the 
package management inside the guest does not work also the installation 


rm -f /var/lib/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb should fix it, I think.


defaults to installing x64 and I would rather have 386.


I think changing /etc/rpm/platform is the only way to fix that, 
alternatively removing it and then using setarch i386 should work.


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RE: [Vserver] FC3 386 Guest in FC4 x64 host

2006-09-07 Thread ehab heikal
rm -f /var/lib/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb did not do the trick.

Does anyone know of a good way to build a fc3 guest in an fc4 host?

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ehab heikal wrote:
 I am trying to build an fc3 test system in and fc4 x86 when i install
 with vserver build and the option of distro is fc3 everything is ok 
 until I try to internalize the package management , when doing this
the 
 package management inside the guest does not work also the
installation 

rm -f /var/lib/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb should fix it, I think.

 defaults to installing x64 and I would rather have 386.

I think changing /etc/rpm/platform is the only way to fix that, 
alternatively removing it and then using setarch i386 should work.

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Re: [Vserver] clean-up hash directory

2006-09-07 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Corey Wright wrote:

i was curious if vhashify cleaned up after itself (delete orphaned
instances of files in hash directory), and it appears it doesn't.  these
commands should do the job. well, technically this just lists files with a
hardlink count of 1 and prints the total size in bytes of all listed files
on the last line (so you know how much space you are saving).

find /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/.hash/ -type f -printf %n %s %p\n |
grep '^1[[:space:]]' | awk '{ sum += $2; print $3 } END { print sum }'

to delete those listed files, add to the end:
   | while read FILE; do rm -f ${FILE}; done

does anybody see any problem with my logic?


Corey,

Did you hear anything on this?  I ran the query on a 12+ guest system ( 
all FC5 ) and it ran for well over a couple of minutes before I got 
tired of watching the output.  This leads me to think I've got lots of 
orphans.  I'd like to get rid of them ( Save the inodes! ) but want to 
understand what I'm doing first.  Rather not fubar a live system.


I'm not sure I fully understand how vhashify works.  Where are the 
actual files located.  Are the entries in

/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/.hash/
links to the actual files and then each guest links to these -- links?


Rod
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Re: [Vserver] clean-up hash directory

2006-09-07 Thread Daniel Hokka Zakrisson

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:

Corey Wright wrote:


i was curious if vhashify cleaned up after itself (delete orphaned
instances of files in hash directory), and it appears it doesn't.  these
commands should do the job. well, technically this just lists files 
with a
hardlink count of 1 and prints the total size in bytes of all listed 
files

on the last line (so you know how much space you are saving).

find /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/.hash/ -type f -printf %n %s 
%p\n |

grep '^1[[:space:]]' | awk '{ sum += $2; print $3 } END { print sum }'


You could easily eliminate the grep by using -links 1 in the find command.


to delete those listed files, add to the end:
   | while read FILE; do rm -f ${FILE}; done


Would be far more efficient to use -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f.

Did you hear anything on this?  I ran the query on a 12+ guest system ( 
all FC5 ) and it ran for well over a couple of minutes before I got 
tired of watching the output.  This leads me to think I've got lots of 
orphans.  I'd like to get rid of them ( Save the inodes! ) but want to 
understand what I'm doing first.  Rather not fubar a live system.


This should be a perfectly safe command, I always run some cleanup after 
hashifying my guests.


I'm not sure I fully understand how vhashify works.  Where are the 
actual files located.  Are the entries in

/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/.hash/
links to the actual files and then each guest links to these -- links?


Those would be the actual files (the file in the .hash directory is 
created by vhashify as a copy of the file it's hashifying), and vhashify 
then creates links to those in the guest(s).


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Re: [Vserver] Latest usable Gentoo package

2006-09-07 Thread Christian Heim
On Thursday, 07. September. 2006 18:41, you wrote:
 Hi Christian

  Nope there is no categorization or rating in the svn-repo. I also
  wouldn't use the _rc's on a stable machine, since from time to time
  there's some bugs in them that need to be fixed.

 So - what do you suggest for using 2.1 on gentoo?
 I run the 2.1 for over a year now without problems and dont want to go
 back to 2.0 but want to update the kernel...

It _really_ depends on your mood. If you say you've run it for over a year on 
a production server, go for it :). What I tried to say, is that I wouldn't 
risk it on my production servers to run 2.1whatever. I can't make that 
decision for you, since you're the sysadmin.

You're right that 2.1 has been pretty stable for the last half year, but it 
also had its rougher times (as in ooops'ing on vserver startup). That's one 
thing I can't risk.

TIA, Christian

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