Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


I have no clue what this means anyone?


First you need to find vprocunhide script end execute it once per server
reboot.

second you do not need to create /vserver/NAME dir
cause creation script will do it for you.



It sounds really easy when you say it like this :)

Right now I'm trying to build from scratch with the following howto:
   http://www.debianhowto.de/de:howtos:sarge:linux-vserver

In the howto patch-0.30.208-fix02.diff 
http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/patch-0.30.208-fix02.diff 
is not used, why might I need this patch?


I think the installing procedure isn't that hard and I'm just messing it 
up by following different howto sources for the install. The IRC-logs 
are somewhat helpfull, but I'm really missing the 'red line'.


The main concern I have, is to keep Vserver updated when it's running. 
Debian got a great packiging system, but how should I upgrade Vserver 
(that was build from scratch) when a new version is released? Build 
again from scratch? That's why I tried the sources from 
http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/ first.


I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208 
(http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to 
use the stable branch. Should I mix?


To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?


Regards,

Vincent Pluk
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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Daniel Kraft
[eMAXX] Sys-Admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb:

 The main concern I have, is to keep Vserver updated when it's running.
 Debian got a great packiging system, but how should I upgrade Vserver
 (that was build from scratch) when a new version is released? Build
 again from scratch? That's why I tried the sources from
 http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/ first.

 I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208
 (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to
 use the stable branch. Should I mix?

I had no problem using the unstable branch for util-vserver. I needed it,
because the sarge-versions are simply too old.

I compiled a vanilla-kernel (2.6.12.6) with the patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff. I
did this the traditional way, but the debian-way (make-kpgk) should work
too. That way you have your packaged kernel (but I guess you knew that ;) ).
Btw: I used the original config from debian (/boot/config.xxx).

Then I compiled the sources from debian-sid for util-vserver. You can find a
short summary here:
http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver+on+sarge

Using apt-get -t unstable should work too, but I preferred compiling it
myself. When a new version comes out, I simply patch a new kernel and make new
packages from sid's sources and dpkg -i them.

 To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?

I'll have to meditate about this...

Daniel

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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


On 14/09/05 10:39 +0200, [eMAXX] Sys-Admin wrote:
 

I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208 
(http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to 
use the stable branch. Should I mix?


   


no, I think you should backport 2.6.12 kernel from sid for using it on sarge
only.
 


To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?
   



other packeges I compile myself with the help of checkinstall for stable
distro. guest vservers should be updated by apt-get.

get 2.6.12 kernel-sources from sid
get patch vserver 2.6.12
cd /usr/src/2.6.12sources/
patch -p1  ./patch*
make oldconfig
make menuconfig (to enable some options)
make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb


tar xvfz util-vserver...tgz
cd util-vserver
./configure
checkinstall (you should apt-get install checkinstall first)
dpkg -i util-vserver*.deb

Cheers,
Matvey
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Ok ... let's start that install again :)  Whenever I get it to work, 
you'll notice it by my questions about the configuration ;)


Thanks a lot!

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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


other packeges I compile myself with the help of checkinstall for stable
distro. guest vservers should be updated by apt-get.

get 2.6.12 kernel-sources from sid
get patch vserver 2.6.12
cd /usr/src/2.6.12sources/
patch -p1  ./patch*
make oldconfig
make menuconfig (to enable some options)
make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb

 

You're going to fast for me; as far as I can see, sid does not provide 
the 2.6.12 kernel-sources: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
Would this be ok as well: 
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.4.tar.bz2 ?


This is exactly where it goes wrong with me ... I think I miss some 
basic experience to make a sane decision in these cases (right now I 
think there is no important difference between the two sources).


Whichone will it be?

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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


On 14/09/05 13:26 +0200, [eMAXX] Sys-Admin wrote:
 

You're going to fast for me; as far as I can see, sid does not provide 
the 2.6.12 kernel-sources: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
   

Okey guess I made a mistake here, since there ARE kernel-source 
2.6.12 in sid :) they're just named different :S


kernel-source-2.6.11 (2.6.11-7)
 Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Debian patches

linux-source-2.6.12 (2.6.12-6)
   Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Debian patches


You allso can download kernel.org kernel 2.6.12
in this case you should install apt-get install kernel-patch (smth 
like that)

and patch kernel sources with cramfs patch
patch -p1  /usr/src/debian-patches(or smth like
that)/blablabla/fs.cramfs.diff

Ok, since I want to try to this option later, where is that cramfs 
patch? I asumed it should be in one of the debian patch-packages? I 
searched http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages for a possible 
candidate... but nogo..


Regards,

Vincent Pluk
eMAXX, Netherlands
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