Re: Openoffice
On 12/07/2004, at 8:59 PM, Rob Davies wrote: Morning All, Looking for Openoffice 1.1.2 download, available on wamug server, if so url? Thanks Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try http://mirrors.wamug.org.au/openoffice/stable/ -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
Least useful software
I'm wondering, after seeing this, if we shouldn't start a Least Useful Software spotting competition. I submit this as potential first entry: http://nousoft.free.fr/hesperides.html -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
anybody want to offer their 2cents on this quandary please feel welcome. I have the need to acquire for a month a small (say 12) laptop preferably Apple brand. My needs are simple - a small tough laptop for travel purposes that simply needs to do e-mail, word processing, downloading pictures from a digital camera - a bonus would to keep my iPod charged without needing a second power point. Given the cost of hiring, bond (deposit), insurance etc I've decided that it would probably be cheaper and easier to buy before I go and then sell it when I get back and at a low enough price (below $700) it can be added to my existing travel insurance without updating my policy. I have a couple of work colleagues who each have identically specked original 2001 snow 12.1 G3 iBook (code name P29) 500Mhz, 128 MB, 10GB, CD-ROM (no burner) original purchase academic staff price would have been about $2000ish. One of them wants $700 for it - which is, in my mind is more than just a bit too much for a 4 year old laptop that even in its day was entry level. The other owner is undecided about if she want's to sell _right_ now. As I plan to purchase this week I may not be able to acquire it soon enough. The first person has given me e-bay action bid details and to be quite blunt it only shows how thick some people are as some of these bids are for more than the cost of a new G4 iBook. Speaking to some of other mac experts wasn't all that helpful, While I was in X-World the guys in Syndey wer saying $200 up to $250 tops. but a couple of apple guys here I've spoken to here are saying $500 to buy -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Apple Design Awards Winners - Most useful software :)
Hi... Check out the winners of the Apple Design Awards: http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ada/2004winners.html Apparently GraphViz (Winner of Best Mac OS X Open Source Product) is by a Perth local, Glen Low. Well done! Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
I have a couple of work colleagues who each have identically specked original 2001 snow 12.1 G3 iBook (code name P29) 500Mhz, 128 MB, 10GB, CD-ROM (no burner) original purchase academic staff price would have been about $2000ish. One of them wants $700 for it - which is, in my mind is more than just a bit too much for a 4 year old laptop that even in its day was entry level. The other owner is undecided about if she want's to sell _right_ now. As I plan to purchase this week I may not be able to acquire it soon enough. The first person has given me e-bay action bid details and to be quite blunt it only shows how thick some people are as some of these bids are for more than the cost of a new G4 iBook. Speaking to some of other mac experts wasn't all that helpful, While I was in X-World the guys in Syndey wer saying $200 up to $250 tops. but a couple of apple guys here I've spoken to here are saying $500 to buy The monetary worth of something is what it costs to replace it. What the market will bear is best reflected on eBay, the authoritative source of all pricing information in our capitalist economic rationalist society :) http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4606item=5106639123rd=1 The one I can see there is $570 with a days left of bidding to go, so $250 would seem a bit unreasonable (to the seller :). It's also possible it might hit $700 in the next day. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
Speaking to some of other mac experts wasn't all that helpful, While I was in X-World the guys in Syndey wer saying $200 up to $250 tops. but a couple of apple guys here I've spoken to here are saying $500 to buy The monetary worth of something is what it costs to replace it. What the market will bear is best reflected on eBay, the authoritative source of all pricing information in our capitalist economic rationalist society :) actually it real value is the value which a seller and buy agree upon the sellers opinion is I payed good hard cash for this and I don't see why I can't get more than half the new price for it. (as an aside the specific person salary packaged a new TiBook a couple of years ago and has just in the last few months salary packaged a 17 AlBook so to them the iBook is 2 time over obsolete machine that even their kids don't want to use - which was their reason for selling it. my opinion, speaking from the voice of experience of supporting obsolete hardware, is that a 4 years old, out performed 4 to 8 times over by a new laptop that's half the price of this ones original RRP, no warranty, unknown or dubious history, the next time its powered up it could blow a logicboard or a $200 battery or a $800 screen (or some other part that's not available anymore) is simply not worth me expending a week and a bit's salary on. Just in the time I've taken to respond to this e-mail the school admin officer has rung me to tell me that they have sold 2 PowerBook G3s one for $70 and another for $100 and my personal opinion is good riddance - one's just had the PRAM and main battery die and the other is been gotten rid of simply because of it's age I'd take on of those if they were not dead weight bricks. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4606item=5106639123rd=1 The one I can see there is $570 with a days left of bidding to go, so $250 would seem a bit unreasonable (to the seller :). It's also possible it might hit $700 in the next day. The stupidity of e-bay sellers and bidders never fails to amuse and confound me a seller who describes the FireWire and external monitor ports as two other similar shaped ports, I have no idea what they are I tell you I'd not feel comfortable biding sight unseen on something sold by some one with that level of user knowledge. Also the resale value 6 months ago of $1500 was for run out stock of the 800 900 Mhz G3 iBooks I know because with educational pricing they were $1100 and i thought about getting one with my tax return. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
no no no not knocking and appreciate the opinion... may be I was just needed to rant a bit. I know I'd probably over price my PowerBook when it come time to part with it. I tell you I'd not feel comfortable biding sight unseen on something sold by some one with that level of user knowledge. Also the resale value 6 months ago of $1500 was for run out stock of the 800 900 Mhz G3 iBooks I know because with educational pricing they were $1100 and i thought about getting one with my tax return. Well, you did ask for 2c worth of advice, which is what I gave :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
Anybody else like to suggest their favorite can't live without software... to start things here's mine: Most people that know me know I'm a Photoshop junkie and that Bryce and Garage Band rock my world. I'd be hard pressed to think of a reason to own a specky mac if it weren't for these. That said I'd still be sitting here at work on a mac so maybe these aren't my can't live without my... software programs So here's a few of free/share/demo programs that when I find my self reaching for when I'm using other peoples macs I feel let down and disappointed when they are not there or elated if they are there that some other user has discovered them. 1st if Konfabulator http://konfabulator.com/ and as they said when they saw Tiger Cupertino Start Your Photocopiers I've been using it for about a year now an I love all the helpful, amusing and often totally useless widgets ( all those iTunes1,000,000 download count down widgets that are only a week or so old but looking a little dated) A recent additions are several light weight RSS widgets which unclutter screen real estate compared to the well featured but overly large windowed NetNewsReader 2nd - if your wondering what I'm talking about when I say RSS all I can say the biggest little thing to happen since IRC/gopher/www http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/12/18/dive-into-xml.html lightweight hyper-text _when_ you need it. 3rd - Desktop Manager. A virtual screen desktop manager - A new one for me I saw this being used on a laptop by a guy a few rows infront of me at X-World now being using it for 4 days and have to install it on both work machines as I'm already missing it when I reach for it's shortcut keys. I used to use Matoxes Virtual desktop in OS 8 and 9 but this blows that away. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21594 as an aside Konfab and Desktop Manager integrate really well in that depending on how you set your widgets to behave (desktop, normal, float on top) those widgets stay on the Desktop Manager virtual screen you mount them on or follow you around your virtual screens. which is far to cool to not be impressed by. -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
Quark and Excel. Very handy for a restaurant where you have to do an *extremely* wide range of things. I'm trying to kick my Quark habit by learning Indesign but it's been going slowly (how on earth do you draw a straight line? :-) Brett Carboni Tsunami Supplying the sushi you can't live without on a daily basis On 13/7/04 2:55 PM, Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote this: Anybody else like to suggest their favorite can't live without software... to start things here's mine: Most people that know me know I'm a Photoshop junkie and that Bryce and Garage Band rock my world. I'd be hard pressed to think of a reason to own a specky mac if it weren't for these.
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:55, Mark Secker wrote: Anybody else like to suggest their favorite can't live without software... SSH X11 (for networked displays) Vim (text editor) Does an IPv6 enabled network count? Python Photoshop -- Craig Ringer
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
OS/X On 13 Jul 2004, at 3:16 PM, Craig Ringer wrote: On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:55, Mark Secker wrote: Anybody else like to suggest their favorite can't live without software...
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 03:34:24PM +0800, Murdoch Allen wrote: OS/X Been waiting for someone to say that ;-) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 03:16:01PM +0800, Craig Ringer wrote: SSH Vim (text editor) Those would be some of my essentials, too. I would also put zsh there (even when using Mac OS X). Also: web browser (no particular brand). Interestingly, I find it better to be using Mac OS than Windows when vim is not available -- pressing Cntl-W, Cntl-P and Cntl-U in Windows often causes bad things to happen, but they are basically inert on Mac OS X because Macs use the Command key rather than the Control key. Hmm...now that I think about it, Cntl-W and Cntl-U are probably Emacs keybindings. But Never Mind. Vim Vim Vim Can't hear you Vim Vim Vim*. * Vim users' in-joke. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 02:55:11PM +0800, Mark Secker wrote: 3rd - Desktop Manager. A virtual screen desktop manager - A new one Another UNIX-related joke: have a look at the background in the Desktop Manager's author's screenshot: http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/#screenshots
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
Well, there are a few things I love using for both work and pleasure - Photoshop - the only one to go with Extreme 3D - a great 3D application now extinct, even though under Classic it runs a bit woggly EasyFind - great to locate, move, copy and delete files etc Macsolitaire - a game to relieve boredom Internet Explorer - rely on the web for almost everything -- Brad Helden Perth, Western Australia * The contents of this email transmission are confidential and may be protected by professional privilege. It is only intended for the named recipient/s of this email.
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 15:31, James Devenish wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 03:34:24PM +0800, Murdoch Allen wrote: OS/X Been waiting for someone to say that ;-) It reminds me of one I forgot: Anything that's sufficiently UNIX-ish for me to open a terminal and get real work done, preferably without swearing about all the missing bits. I'd also add an X11 implementation because it's rare that I'm working in an environment where I'm not near a UNIX box I'll want to display some apps from. I also forgot Cyrus IMAPd. That's the mail server OS/X Server uses, by the way, and it's absolutely brilliant. Having to go back to using an ISP's POP server now would be most frustrating. Oh, yeah, and in case you forgot in the intervening time, vim too ;-) . That app finally broke my addition to BBEdit (which I used to use mostly because of its regex support). I have to try very hard not to stare, completely agog, at people who say they prefer to program in Notepad. Where do I start? No column select/edit/replace, no regex, no syntax highlighting ... it's incredible. -- Craig Ringer
Re: I can't live without my.....
1. Butler - the most useful interface enhancer ive ever used! 2. Fire - icq,msn,ichat,etc all in one app 3. VLC - video playback 4. ffmpegX - video encoder 5. Toast - cd/dvd burning all available through http://www.versiontracker.com
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
To avoid the whole blowing up motherboards and spontaneous combustion of other parts, why not settle for a nice iBook SE 466mhz. It has firewire therefore can charge your iPod and it's battery does last longer apparently. There's a few of them for under $500 on ebay but a lot of people still like the model so when selling it could get more. I'm using a Lime currently and it does me fine for tasks similar to yours as well as more demanding and it's case is sturdy for travel. Acting as a portable DVD player is a nice feature too. They've all been on lease or something so they should be a little looked after. I prefer them over the 500mhz. Regards Christian On 13/07/2004, at 12:12 PM, Mark Secker wrote: no no no not knocking and appreciate the opinion... may be I was just needed to rant a bit. I know I'd probably over price my PowerBook when it come time to part with it. I tell you I'd not feel comfortable biding sight unseen on something sold by some one with that level of user knowledge. Also the resale value 6 months ago of $1500 was for run out stock of the 800 900 Mhz G3 iBooks I know because with educational pricing they were $1100 and i thought about getting one with my tax return. Well, you did ask for 2c worth of advice, which is what I gave :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: I can't live without my.....(insert favorite software)
Mark Secker wrote: Anybody else like to suggest their favorite can't live without software... Protel 99SE (wish they had an OsX or *nix version (I hate windows) Open Office Mozilla Putty (Telnet / SSH client) :) Kat. -- --- K.A.Q. Electronics Website: www.kaqelectronics.dyndns.org IM: Yahoo: PinkyDwaggy MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Everything Electronics Phone: 0419 923 731 ---
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
To avoid the whole blowing up motherboards and spontaneous combustion of other parts, why not settle for a nice iBook SE 466mhz. As much as I like the clam shell iMacs stylistically there is the slight problem that it comes in at 3.1 KG v's the snow's 2.2 KG dimension wise the clams are 2 cm longer and taller and a massive 11 cm deeper (front to back) As a lot of my traveling is me with hiking boots and a backpack (with in which a laptop will have to share space with a tent, sleeping bag, a weeks worth of cloths and food and a camp stove) walking..., and the rest is Japanese commuter rail hitch hiking so minimizing weight and dimensions is critical. -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
