Re: Technically speaking.....

2004-07-30 Thread James / Hans Kunz
you cannot just change wires to get a scsi harddisk to work on a ata 
system, the internal (burned into the ic on the hd) software protocol 
is to different plus the formatting gives another headache, you can get 
scsi to ata convertersJames



On 29/07/2004, at 19:30, Craig Ringer wrote:


On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 19:21, Robert Howells wrote:


Thank you !  The idea is right I just need to modify it slightly to
SCSI disk interface.


Yeah, sorry, I failed to spot ... 50 pins  I thought the 7600 was
ATA based, but apparently not.

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Re: Technically speaking.....

2004-07-30 Thread Shay Telfer

Hi People,
I need to find out what voltage should be seen on what pins of the 
50 way ribbons

feeding to the Hard drive in a Mac 7600 box

Can anybody direct me to a source of information , please ?


Googling for SCSI pinout reveals:

http://www.connectworld.net/scsi.html

Have fun,
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Re: Technically speaking.....

2004-07-30 Thread Craig Ringer
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 23:13, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
 you cannot just change wires to get a scsi harddisk to work on a ata 
 system, the internal (burned into the ic on the hd) software protocol 
 is to different plus the formatting gives another headache.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. I don't know what in my message gave you
the impression that I was suggesting that could be done. All I said was
that I thought the 7600 was ATA based, not SCSI based. In other words, I
thought it was made after Apple made the transition from SCSI hard disks
to ATA ones for the internal disks in PowerMacs.

(As a curiosity, it _is_ apparently possible to use SATA disks on Serial
Attached SCSI controllers. Cool, eh?)

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Apple to Make Music Player for Motorola Phones

2004-07-30 Thread BART RAFFAELE
Hi All

Came across this article , it seems itunes, and the ipod revolution is
spreading like Wild Fire.

You can see how the ipod,itunes has been changing molding it self may be one
day the iphone .

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNewsstoryID=5778386

Bart.



wanted: laserwriter NT parts

2004-07-30 Thread Peter Meyer
i am looking for a power supply for a Personal Laserwriter NT whose own 
power supply has died.


some time back people were getting rid of some of these beasts but mine 
was still working then!



mouse   peter meyer
0408 902349
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Re: Technically speaking.....(Slightly OT)

2004-07-30 Thread Paul

Craig Ringer wrote:

On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 23:13, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

you cannot just change wires to get a scsi harddisk to work on a ata 
system, the internal (burned into the ic on the hd) software protocol 
is to different plus the formatting gives another headache.



Yes, I'm well aware of that. I don't know what in my message gave you
the impression that I was suggesting that could be done. All I said was
that I thought the 7600 was ATA based, not SCSI based. In other words, I
thought it was made after Apple made the transition from SCSI hard disks
to ATA ones for the internal disks in PowerMacs.

(As a curiosity, it _is_ apparently possible to use SATA disks on Serial
Attached SCSI controllers. Cool, eh?)

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50 pin connectors being so wide makes it easy to bend the end pins, 
which I did repeatedly, then, number 1 pin broke off!


Shock horror!

So an intrepid friend and I managed to solder a single wire, salvaged 
from an IDE cable as I didnt have the heart to destroy an actual scsi 
cable, just behind the cable connector on the HDD.


I then got an intact scsi cable connected it normally to the HDD and 
Mainboard.
Now the tricky bit, I simply pushed the bared end of the little wire 
we'd soldered into the number 1 hole in the NEXT connector along the 
scsi cable.
Even though I accidentally yanked it out during boot up, it still worked 
when I just popped it back in!


Data recovered, sweating ceased;)


Cheers

Paul


Tube based Victrola iPod amplifier

2004-07-30 Thread Shay Telfer

http://www.tubesville.com/some_odd_rubies.html

Have fun,
Shay
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