Re: Snow Leopard
Hi Bob, I think you may have missed the point of Peter¹s question. Ronni¹s email and link covers setting up and installing Snow Leopard so as Ronni says: !!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! The computer you are going to install Snow Leopard on MUST be setup with the GUID partitioning scheme. However, if I understand Peter¹s question correctly, he is wondering whether (having installed Snow Leopard on a correctly formatted computer) he will still be able to work with external drives that are not GUID formatted - ie his time machine backup drive and music/photo drive. So Snow leopard needs to be installed on a GUID partitioned drive - but can it read/write to non GUID partitioned external drives. Sorry Peter, I cannot give you a definite answer on that. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 26/8/09 1:20 PM, Robert Howells at rhowe...@arach.net.au wrote: On 26/08/2009, at 1:04 PM, Peter Tomlinson wrote: Regarding the formatting of drives does that include all external drives? I have a time machine backup drive that is not guid but apple and a further backup of music and photo's that is the same. Will these not work with Leopard? Thanks Peter Tomlinson Albany 20 Imac Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 320GB OS X 10.5.8 Peter , You are running Leopard and they are working now right ? I think you meant to ask whether they would work with Snow Leopard . ! ? Right ? Go back to Ronda's mail 25 August 12:36 where she said *** !!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! The computer you are going to install Snow Leopard on MUST be setup with the GUID partitioning scheme. Cheers, Ronni also same day at 12.19 she offered this link for further information about preparing for SNOW Leopard http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/17/mac-201-preparing-your-mac-for-snow-leopard/ Have fun Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Snow Leopard
Hi Peter, 2009/8/26 Peter Tomlinson raspt...@gmail.com: Regarding the formatting of drives does that include all external drives? Snow Leopard will continue to read and write external disks (and thumb drives, etc.). The GUID partition issue is only relevant for disks onto which you are installing Snow Leopard. This is because GUID enables an Intel computer to boot using Snow Leopard. Since you are using Time Machine for backups, this is not considered Installing Snow Leopard for GUID purposes. If you ever needed to restore your computer, you'd most likely to do so by booting from a Mac OS X installation DVD, hence you don't need to reformat your Time Machine disk. If on the other hand you were making a live backup directly onto your external disk for booting in an emergency, the GUID rule would presumably apply. (?) James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Snow Leopard
i can assume that only the harddisk where snow leopard lives must have a guid partition, it would be strange if i have to shift over 5 terabytes out to nowhere just to repartition/reformat all my hd's which are extended/extended-jounalled format there is no warning on apples site about this James On 26/08/2009, at 14:37, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi Bob, I think you may have missed the point of Peter’s question. Ronni’s email and link covers setting up and installing Snow Leopard –so as Ronni says: !!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! The computer you are going to install Snow Leopard on MUST be setup with the GUID partitioning scheme. However, if I understand Peter’s question correctly, he is wondering whether (having installed Snow Leopard on a correctly formatted computer) he will still be able to work with external drives that are not GUID formatted - ie his time machine backup drive and music/photo drive. So Snow leopard needs to be installed on a GUID partitioned drive - but can it read/write to non GUID partitioned external drives. Sorry Peter, I cannot give you a definite answer on that. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 26/8/09 1:20 PM, Robert Howells at rhowe...@arach.net.au wrote: On 26/08/2009, at 1:04 PM, Peter Tomlinson wrote: Regarding the formatting of drives does that include all external drives? I have a time machine backup drive that is not guid but apple and a further backup of music and photo's that is the same. Will these not work with Leopard? Thanks Peter Tomlinson Albany 20 Imac Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 320GB OS X 10.5.8 Peter , You are running Leopard and they are working now right ? I think you meant to ask whether they would work with Snow Leopard . ! ? Right ? Go back to Ronda's mail 25 August 12:36 where she said *** !!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! The computer you are going to install Snow Leopard on MUST be setup with the GUID partitioning scheme. Cheers, Ronni also same day at 12.19 she offered this link for further information about preparing for SNOW Leopard http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/17/mac-201-preparing-your-mac-for- snow-leopard/ Have fun Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Snow Leopard
On 26/08/2009, at 4:34 PM, James Devenish wrote: Hi Peter, 2009/8/26 Peter Tomlinson raspt...@gmail.com: Regarding the formatting of drives does that include all external drives? Snow Leopard will continue to read and write external disks (and thumb drives, etc.). The GUID partition issue is only relevant for disks onto which you are installing Snow Leopard. This is because GUID enables an Intel computer to boot using Snow Leopard. Since you are using Time Machine for backups, this is not considered Installing Snow Leopard for GUID purposes. If you ever needed to restore your computer, you'd most likely to do so by booting from a Mac OS X installation DVD, hence you don't need to reformat your Time Machine disk. If on the other hand you were making a live backup directly onto your external disk for booting in an emergency, the GUID rule would presumably apply. (?) James Hi Peter James, My original post with the comment. !!! VERY IMPORTANT !!! The computer you are going to install Snow Leopard on MUST be setup with the GUID partitioning scheme. Only refers to the Installation of Snow Leopard, nothing to do with Time Machine. Peter's Time Machine backup will still work in Snow Leopard. You can't boot from a Time Machine backup, but if you boot from the install DVD, you can restore your backup to another disk. So, the only thing Peter cannot do is boot from the External Drive that he has formatted in Apple Partition Map Scheme. If he wanted a Bootable backup, he would need to use another External Firewire Drive format it Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and GUID Partition Table Partition Map Scheme. Then use either SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner and create a bootable backup of his system. Well, that is how I understand how it works. Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding of Snow Leopard Time Machine. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.8 ... almost OS X 10.6 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Apple Mail - questions about 'Rules'
Heyy, great idea James. I was punching the air for a moment ... however ... I checked out the range of conditions, and there isn't one that I can see which enables you to effectively state If message is flagged then Mail seems to acknowledge the relevance of flagging a message if a message meets certain conditions, but doesn't allow you to recognise a flagged or unflagged message as a condition in order to implement an action :-( Cheers, Steven On 26/08/2009, at 8:43 AM, James Devenish wrote: Hi Steven, 2009/8/26 Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au: With the rules on two Macs accessing the same IMAP email account, I suspect that the rules will be applied twice, with the result being two copies of the email being sent to other email addresses. If you're flagging messages on the server when the rules are applied, then configure a rule that skips over flagged messages? James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Some Mac NOSTALGIA
HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Entourage to Mail
Hi Rob Can you tell me how I get to the settings you show. Also what is screendump from Thunderbird? John On 25/08/2009, at 10:31 PM, Rob Phillips wrote: It'll be one of these options - screendump from Thunderbird. These are for receiving - check the smtp settings for sending. Assuming you are using POP. Rob Picture 2.png John Daniels wrote: Hi all On my Intel iMac I can receive and send emails using Entourage without a problem and without using a password. However when I switched to Mac Mail the program asks me for a password and does not accept the password which would normally give me access to Westnet server. I have checked at Mail preferences - Accounts which looks OK and phoned Westnet but they could not help. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Associate Professor Rob Phillips Educational Development Unit Room 4.42 Level 4 Library North Wing, Murdoch University r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of Australasia Currently on sabbatical leave -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Behind The News PDFs
Thx Guys, Barry, do you have the font family Amasis MT installed on your system? Mine looks like what Robert describes. Interesting though that it's OK in Safari 4 for you. I'm using Safari 4.0.3 (It's not a beta anymore, is it?) Here's a screen shot of a previous week: http://members.westnet.com.au/travis253/btn_sample.png I might drop a line to BTN and see if they can embed the fonts. cheers Travis -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
I miss playing with hypercard on my old performa 5200 :) -- Craig Bruce Director M 0403 040 088 P 08 9367 4691 F 08 9367 4692 E craig.br...@maxstyle.com.au W http://www.maxstyle.com.au Twitter Maxstyle_com_au Facebook http://www.facebook.com/maxstyle Disclaimer: The information transmitted on this message is intended only for the person or organisation to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact MaxStyle Pty Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. On 26/08/2009, at 8:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote: HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Behind The News PDFs
On 26/08/2009, at 9:03 PM, Travis Hansen wrote: Thx Guys, Barry, do you have the font family Amasis MT installed on your system? Mine looks like what Robert describes. Interesting though that it's OK in Safari 4 for you. I'm using Safari 4.0.3 (It's not a beta anymore, is it?) Here's a screen shot of a previous week: http://members.westnet.com.au/travis253/btn_sample.png I might drop a line to BTN and see if they can embed the fonts. cheers Travis My Safari Beta that displays the page correctly seems to be using Standard Font Times 16 Fixed Width FontCourier 13 I do not know whether that is any help Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Behind The News PDFs
Travis No this is not one of my installed fonts. I have not retained the opened pdf so I cannot tell you what font it appeared in. I will tryn to have a look at it to-morrow. Regards Barry On 26/08/2009, at 9:03 PM, Travis Hansen wrote: Thx Guys, Barry, do you have the font family Amasis MT installed on your system? Mine looks like what Robert describes. Interesting though that it's OK in Safari 4 for you. I'm using Safari 4.0.3 (It's not a beta anymore, is it?) Here's a screen shot of a previous week: http://members.westnet.com.au/travis253/btn_sample.png I might drop a line to BTN and see if they can embed the fonts. cheers Travis -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: someone using our wireless
If you know how to log in to your router Rosemary, which you should be able to do from your web browser, you can (i) go to wireless security and set a password, and/or (ii) set up a closed network. For the latter, look for something that says publish SSID or broadcast SSID, along those lines, and elect not to broadcast your SSID. This means that people can't see the name of your wireless network publicly unless they know the name of it. So you might like to change the name of your network as well. Some high level tips - you may need to state the make model of your router for someone to give you more specific direction. Cheers, Steven On 26/08/2009, at 5:47 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: I think someone is using our wireless connection. Our usage has rocketed up How do I know? How do I stop it? Rosemary Horton rosemary.hor...@gmail.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: someone using our wireless
Unlikely to be the case if you have your wireless password protected but quite possible if it isn't. First thing you want to do is log into your router and set up a password for your wireless network if you haven't already. If you have one but your still concerned then you can change your password. You can probably see what computers are connected to your router from your router login or you may be able to have a look at your usage patterns from your isp login if they provide this feature. Stuff like youtube can use a surprising amount of data quite rapidly. Ruben I think someone is using our wireless connection. Our usage has rocketed up How do I know? How do I stop it? Rosemary Horton rosemary.hor...@gmail.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
If only Bob. My first one was an SE or some such name. Megabytes were unheard of. Nothing to do with telephones, ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS machine my neighbour had. But I had hypercard! And, I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software is better. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road ...ey up Obadiah... Bill On 26/08/2009, at 8:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote: HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker Editor RENEW EDITORS WRITERS Box 111 Wooroloo 6558 Western Australia 0403 583 676 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
someone using our wireless
I think someone is using our wireless connection. Our usage has rocketed up How do I know? How do I stop it? Rosemary Horton rosemary.hor...@gmail.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: someone using our wireless
Hi, that happened to us, until I realised that synchronising my idisk was the problem. As uploads count as well as downloads and I had nearly 20 gig it was eating up our bandwidth. So, I stopped it syncing of course. On 26/08/2009, at 10:08 PM, Dark1 wrote: Unlikely to be the case if you have your wireless password protected but quite possible if it isn't. First thing you want to do is log into your router and set up a password for your wireless network if you haven't already. If you have one but your still concerned then you can change your password. You can probably see what computers are connected to your router from your router login or you may be able to have a look at your usage patterns from your isp login if they provide this feature. Stuff like youtube can use a surprising amount of data quite rapidly. Ruben I think someone is using our wireless connection. Our usage has rocketed up How do I know? How do I stop it? Rosemary Horton rosemary.hor...@gmail.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Macs-4-u Snow Leopard Availability
Hello anyone from the Eastern Suburbs or the Hills, I have 60 copies of Snow Leopard arriving by courier from Apple on Friday AM. About 20% are pre-sold but if anyone needs one, they will be on sale from 10:00am while stocks last. Also, any WAMUG member who needs an iPhone case can purchase one for 30% off rrp til the end of August and 50% off rrp for iPod Cases (while stocks last - no time limit). Regards, Charles Taylor Macs-4-u ABN 30 199 688 153 269 Great Eastern Hwy Midland Western Australia 6056 www.macs-4-u.com Tel: 61 8 9274 7111 Fax: 61 8 9274 7017 Mob: 0410 501 441 Hrs: 12:00 to 6:00 Tue Wed., 12:00 to 8:00 Thur, 10:00 to 6:00 Fri and 10:00 to 4:00 Sat Please consider the environment before printing this email -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
WAMUG Meeting Reminder: 01 September 2009 (Please Do Not Reply)
G'day again all WAMUGGERS Well, August has nearly past us by. Have you set your iCal for next Tuesday 1 September 2009 for the next WAMUG meeting? In no particular order: Denice Williams is going to talk to us about Digital Photography; Daniel Kerr will tell us about iWeb; and Hopefully, Craig Bruce will be able to give us an Apple TV demo (although this is still to be confirmed). (Unfortunately, both Daniel and Craig were crook and unable to make it last time. Rumour has it they left their Windows open and caught a virus?!?! Good to hear they are both well again.) Plus, anything else which comes to mind on the night. Of course, don't forget the question and answer session at the beginning of every meeting and a cuppa and biscuits at the end. (Details are subject to change without notice) Location: Geology building 312, Curtin University, Bentley. Time: 7.30pm - 9.00pm WAMUG meets in the large meeting room just inside the front door of the building Vist http://properties.curtin.edu.au/discover/maps/index.cfm to view a detailed map. Download a PDF of the Curtin map from http://properties.curtin.edu.au/maps/docs/campus_map.pdf . Streetsmart map ref: 403 E4 (When entering Curtin University from either the north or south entrance, at the roundabout, head east on Brand Drive. Bldg 312 is near the bus terminal) See you there. Pete Smith Please do not reply to this email. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Entourage to Mail
Sorry John. I was too terse. I can't easily tell you exactly what to do. I currently use the Thunderbird mail program, and I copied a screen dump from that. If you can find the equivalent 'advanced' screen in both Mail and Entourage, you will probably find that one is different from the other. For example, in Entourage, it's Tools/Accounts/ select an account/ Edit/Account settings then 'click here for advanced receiving options'. One of the other options there is to 'Save my password in the Keychain' You will need to find the similar settings in Mail and compare them. Hope this is clearer. Rob John Daniels wrote: Hi Rob Can you tell me how I get to the settings you show. Also what is "screendump from Thunderbird"? John On 25/08/2009, at 10:31 PM, Rob Phillips wrote: It'll be one of these options - screendump from Thunderbird. These are for receiving - check the smtp settings for sending. Assuming you are using POP. Rob Picture 2.png John Daniels wrote: Hi all On my Intel iMac I can receive and send emails using Entourage without a problem and without using a password. However when I switched to Mac Mail the program asks me for a password and does not accept the password which would normally give me access to Westnet server. I have checked at Mail preferences - Accounts which looks OK and phoned Westnet but they could not help. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Associate Professor Rob Phillips Educational Development Unit Room 4.42 Level 4 Library North Wing, Murdoch University r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of Australasia Currently on sabbatical leave --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Associate Professor Rob Phillips Educational Development Unit Room 4.42 Level 4 Library North Wing, Murdoch University r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of Australasia Currently on sabbatical leave --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
Hmmm. And I started in 1987 (I think), programming with a Mac 512k with 2 400k floppy drives - no hard disk. The OS fitted on one floppy, the compiler fitted on another, and my program was on a third. Most of my time was spent swapping floppies. Nevertheless, the graphical user interface was a huge step up on the text based mainframes I was used to using. And then there are the multimedia and animation programs our team developed in the 1990s with Supercard. These absolutely fly now - too fast to be meaningful... And then I had to do some work on a Windows XP machine the other day. Mac OS4 or 5 (from 1987) was definitely more friendly! Back to my zimmer frame. Rob Robert Howells wrote: HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Associate Professor Rob Phillips Educational Development Unit Room 4.42 Level 4 Library North Wing, Murdoch University r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au Phone: +61 8 9360 6054 Mobile: 0416 065 054 Fellow, Higher Education Research and Development Society of Australasia Currently on sabbatical leave -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just under 2000 dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of ram.That's right, 20 mega bites of ram. We have come a long way since then. Cheers, Joe On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: If only Bob. My first one was an SE or some such name.Megabytes were unheard of. Nothing to do with telephones, ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS machine my neighbour had. But I had hypercard! And, I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software is better. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road ...ey up Obadiah... Bill On 26/08/2009, at 8:25 PM, Robert Howells wrote: HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Dr Bill Parker Editor RENEW EDITORS WRITERS Box 111 Wooroloo 6558 Western Australia 0403 583 676 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
omg, hypercard, clarisworks (homepage to be exact)... oh why do we have to upgrade... had all my fun on my old macs my 1st mac was one of the last b/w ones, then i had one of the 1st thick, black brick chunk colour ones (oh, cant remember the models of those 2), but they were running os9 i think and it was bliss... :) --lynn-- - Original Message - From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 8:25:40 PM GMT +08:00 Perth Subject: Some Mac NOSTALGIA HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Adobe won't support CS3 on Snow Leopard ...
Hi All!, If you are a CS3 user, then you may find this link of interest ... Adobe has confirmed that its applications are for the most part compatible with Mac OSX 10.6 http://9to5mac.com/adobe_nixes_slcs4 Cheers, Peder -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
I'm about to show my age here :) My first Apple was an Apple II+ Then: IIe IIGS Mac+ SE 6100 7200 BW G3 G4 G5 and now 3 macbook Pro's And does anyone remember the Apple Credit card? Roger On Thu Aug 27 7:02 , lynn...@westnet.com.au sent: omg, hypercard, clarisworks (homepage to be exact)... oh why do we have to upgrade... had all my fun on my old macs my 1st mac was one of the last b/w ones, then i had one of the 1st thick, black brick chunk colour ones (oh, cant remember the models of those 2), but they were running os9 i think and it was bliss... :) --lynn-- - Original Message - From: Robert Howells rhowe...@arach.net.au To: wamug wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 8:25:40 PM GMT +08:00 Perth Subject: Some Mac NOSTALGIA HI List , Just sharing a little experience with you .. Remember When We struggled with the older Mac's , Dial up Internet and frreezing screens when the latest Mac was something like a PPM 7600 with a whole 32 or 64 Mb of Ram the hard drive was 2 GB and you were lucky if you could burn a CD and the operating system got to be a magical OS9 on a 200 Mhz cpu ? REMEMBER SO now that you have that scene firmly fixed in your mind's eye FAST FORWARD and try to imagine the same OS9 working on :- Broadband RAM 1 GB Hard Drive 500 Gb CPU 1.8 Ghz on a G4 ??? Imagine ??? Yep ! It goes like a rocket ! Cheers Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au ) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
On 27/08/2009, at 7:11 AM, rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm about to show my age here :) My first Apple was an Apple II+ Mine was an Apple //c in 1984. We bought in preference to the brand new Mac at the time because it had a lot more educational software for it, and the RAM was the same in each (128Kb! - not Mb!!). I also remember buying a 1 Megabyte RAM Card for an Apple IIgs I was using several years later, paying around $700 dollars for it and being happy with that! This card was populated with a veritable forest of 16k chips. Of course, that was in the days when Bill Gates was confidently predicting that no personal computer would ever need more that 640K of RAM. Ahh, memories... -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
but can you imagine in 1979 apple II+ with 64k ram a great floppy drive with 150kbytes capacity dos 3.3 operating system then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram floppy drives with 720k capacity, prodos 9 operating system there was appleworks allready well known and the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the updates James SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote: Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just under 2000 dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of ram.That's right, 20 mega bites of ram. We have come a long way since then. Cheers, Joe On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: If only Bob. My first one was an SE or some such name. Megabytes were unheard of. Nothing to do with telephones, ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS machine my neighbour had. But I had hypercard! And, I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software is better. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road ...ey up Obadiah... Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
While we're all getting nostalgic, if anyone has a Mac Plus, Mac SE, or similar vintage Apple Mac sitting dormant under a coating of dust in their shed, I'd be more than happy (as a collector) to offer a good home and/or donation if required. Used to love our old Apple IIGS, so simple but (don't laugh) impressive at the time. Does anyone remember the popular PrintShop application and other older software by Broderbund? David. On 27/08/2009, at 11:21 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: but can you imagine in 1979 apple II+ with 64k ram a great floppy drive with 150kbytes capacity dos 3.3 operating system then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram floppy drives with 720k capacity, prodos 9 operating system there was appleworks allready well known and the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the updates James SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote: Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just under 2000 dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of ram.That's right, 20 mega bites of ram. We have come a long way since then. Cheers, Joe On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: If only Bob. My first one was an SE or some such name. Megabytes were unheard of. Nothing to do with telephones, ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS machine my neighbour had. But I had hypercard! And, I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software is better. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road ...ey up Obadiah... Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
The IIGS was a very nice machine excellent sound and graphics at the time :) I remember buying a CPM card for my Apple II + in 1979 and also a 128k ram card!!! Roger On Thu Aug 27 11:55 , David Peake dpe...@printforce.com.au sent: While we're all getting nostalgic, if anyone has a Mac Plus, Mac SE, or similar vintage Apple Mac sitting dormant under a coating of dust in their shed, I'd be more than happy (as a collector) to offer a good home and/or donation if required. Used to love our old Apple IIGS, so simple but (don't laugh) impressive at the time. Does anyone remember the popular PrintShop application and other older software by Broderbund? David. On 27/08/2009, at 11:21 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: but can you imagine in 1979apple II+ with 64k ram a great floppy drive with 150kbytes capacity dos 3.3 operating system then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram floppy drives with 720k capacity, prodos 9 operating systemthere was appleworks allready well knownand the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the updates James SAD TechnicVideo Productions, Electronic repairsU3 / 6 Chalkley PlBayswater WA 6053+618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddasskype: barleewayover 40 years in electronics On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote:Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just under 2000 dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of ram.That's right, 20 mega bites of ram. We have come a long way since then. Cheers, Joe On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: If only Bob.   My first one was an SE  or some such name.   Megabytes were unheard of.  Nothing to do with telephones,  ethernet or anything else.   The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS  machine my neighbour had.  But I had hypercard! And,  I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software  is better. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road  ...ey up Obadiah... Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Some Mac NOSTALGIA
Yes, can remember the Apple II with its 5 1/4 inch floppies with affection. I was working at the Nowra (NSW) paper mills and implemented a mill shop floor data collection using about a dozen apple computers networked together using a Corvus network with a central disc drive. The network was 1 mb/sec and was an early form like Ethernet. All software was written by me in Apple DOS or 7502 assembler. The system was operational for about 5 years and served the mill well. Then replaced by the new boy on the market - IBM personal computers. Cheers ... Clyde On 27/08/2009, at 11:21 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: but can you imagine in 1979 apple II+ with 64k ram a great floppy drive with 150kbytes capacity dos 3.3 operating system then in 1984 the apple IIc with 128k ram floppy drives with 720k capacity, prodos 9 operating system there was appleworks allready well known and the first steps to a graphical interface/mouse appeared in the updates James SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway over 40 years in electronics On 26/08/2009, at 22:53, Joe Mastrella wrote: Greetings! My first Mac was a IIVX 32MZ processor, 3 gig HD. I paid just under 2000 dollars US including an HP printer. Then I decided to upgrade the memory. I paid 200 dollars for 20 mega bites of ram.That's right, 20 mega bites of ram. We have come a long way since then. Cheers, Joe On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au wrote: If only Bob. My first one was an SE or some such name. Megabytes were unheard of. Nothing to do with telephones, ethernet or anything else. The little beast just sat there on the desk but it was BLOODY sight easier to use than the DOS machine my neighbour had. But I had hypercard! And, I know someone who still uses OS8 because the music software is better. Sounds like a Monty Python sketch about licking t'road ...ey up Obadiah... Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Entourage to Mail
On 25/08/2009, at 9:45 PM, John Daniels wrote: Hi all On my Intel iMac I can receive and send emails using Entourage without a problem and without using a password. However when I switched to Mac Mail the program asks me for a password and does not accept the password which would normally give me access to Westnet server. I have checked at Mail preferences - Accounts which looks OK and phoned Westnet but they could not help. Hi John, 1. Quit Mail if it's running. 2. Open Keychain Access Passwords Internet. 3. Find the password that Mail is having a problem with and delete it, then quit Keychain Access. 4. Restart Mail and enter the password again when asked, and check to the box to save it in the Keychain. It shouldn't ask you again unless your Keychain becomes corrupted in the future. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Keychain?
Is there a way to turn off keychain? Or disable it for certain apps, like safari? Best Regards Hugh Griffiths -Original Message- From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Ronda Brown Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2009 1:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Entourage to Mail On 25/08/2009, at 9:45 PM, John Daniels wrote: Hi all On my Intel iMac I can receive and send emails using Entourage without a problem and without using a password. However when I switched to Mac Mail the program asks me for a password and does not accept the password which would normally give me access to Westnet server. I have checked at Mail preferences - Accounts which looks OK and phoned Westnet but they could not help. Hi John, 1. Quit Mail if it's running. 2. Open Keychain Access Passwords Internet. 3. Find the password that Mail is having a problem with and delete it, then quit Keychain Access. 4. Restart Mail and enter the password again when asked, and check to the box to save it in the Keychain. It shouldn't ask you again unless your Keychain becomes corrupted in the future. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
