Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.
Getting a little tired of the GREAT GAME EAGLES header !
You were right to point this out when was guilty Ronni.

> On 26 May 2018, at 3:56 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter
> 
> By chance was it a MacBook Pro 15”? Or a 13”?
> If it was a 2011 15” then it was more then likely the Graphics Card failed. 
> They are starting to be “common” failures on that model now unfortunately.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
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>> On 25 May 2018, at 9:57 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there, well I tried all these things down below here and double checked 
>> my movements within the inside of the MBP and nothing disturbed I could see 
>> or looked like it shouldn’t from anything I touched. I tried booting with no 
>> RAM cards, then inserted previously used and operational RAM cards and still 
>> no change, no chime from it. 
>> 
>> So on Thursday, with fully a fully prepared written history of the recent 
>> events with it I dropped it to a local computer repair shop one I’ve used 
>> before and they’ve advised they could not resuscitate it. Likely Mother 
>> Board fault which would be expensive they say. It is a 2011 MBP after all 
>> but I’m disappointed as it was working fine prior to my son installing this 
>> third party software. I have no proof this was the cause of the fail but it 
>> is the most likely suspect. OSX is very reliable when left to itself.
>> 
>> In my final attempts to resurrect it, i thought I’d remove the fan 
>> altogether, very delicately. In doing that, which was very easy, i noticed 
>> the small air entry grille was quite plugged with fluff. I suspect this was 
>> causing the processor to run hot despite the fan running flat out, which in 
>> turn set Tim about trying to turn it down using his “special” third party 
>> software” as the fan noise annoyed him. So the root cause was probably the 
>> restricted air flow into the fan from fluff!
>> 
>> Oh well, now my challenge is to locate another machine and determine how I 
>> will migrate Tim’s backup without bringing back the SMC Fan Controller 
>> software in the process. 
>> 
>> My choices, once I have a replacement machine (with High Sierra in place), 
>> are to plug the old HDD via SATA and retrieve using Migration Assistant 
>> (where I already deleted the SMC Fan Controller) and select the data to be 
>> retrieved. Important things are Photos library, iTunes and other data but 
>> not OSX related files. Is this level of selectivity something that MA 
>> allows? Any other tips in this process?
>> 
>> Thanks for all those who chipped in with help for me in this, I really 
>> appreciate it folks.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 22 May 2018, at 12:04 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pete,
>>> 
>>> A few more thoughts  ;o)
>>> 
>>> • OK even though the first thoughts for fans OK but nothing else 
>>> happens would tend to be a possible power supply or logic board failure – 
>>> ie a hardware problem with the MBP is looking more likely, as you say you 
>>> have not much to lose by trying a few long shots.
>>> • When things do start to go wrong/fail sometimes an initial problem is 
>>> seen then other things occur – it is easy to get anchored into trying to 
>>> troubleshoot the problem by focusing on the original problem/circumstances, 
>>> whereas there may be additional, more serious, problems that are now 
>>> present – I’m not saying that anything points to this, just to remain open 
>>> to that probability.
>>> • Having opened up the MBP to remove/change the HDD there is also the 
>>> possibility you may have disturbed something – this is obviously not the 
>>> original problem but may be hiding/hindering its solution.
>>> 
>>> So – a few very long shots:
>>> • If sound has somehow been set to mute on your MBP you may not hear 
>>> the start-up chime (well I just tested a restart on my El Capitan iMac 
>>> after muting and no chime there)
>>> • Could the brightness have got set down to minimum on the MBP (though 
>>> I would still expect that you would see something).
>>> • Could you have disturbed any lead/connector whilst in the MBP.
>>> • Could the RAM seating have got disturbed whilst you were in the MBP
>>> 
>>> Googling the problem obviously brings up lots of hits as I am sure you have 
>>> found and perused. You have 

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Peter

By chance was it a MacBook Pro 15”? Or a 13”?
If it was a 2011 15” then it was more then likely the Graphics Card failed. 
They are starting to be “common” failures on that model now unfortunately.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 7

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> On 25 May 2018, at 9:57 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, well I tried all these things down below here and double checked my 
> movements within the inside of the MBP and nothing disturbed I could see or 
> looked like it shouldn’t from anything I touched. I tried booting with no RAM 
> cards, then inserted previously used and operational RAM cards and still no 
> change, no chime from it. 
> 
> So on Thursday, with fully a fully prepared written history of the recent 
> events with it I dropped it to a local computer repair shop one I’ve used 
> before and they’ve advised they could not resuscitate it. Likely Mother Board 
> fault which would be expensive they say. It is a 2011 MBP after all but I’m 
> disappointed as it was working fine prior to my son installing this third 
> party software. I have no proof this was the cause of the fail but it is the 
> most likely suspect. OSX is very reliable when left to itself.
> 
> In my final attempts to resurrect it, i thought I’d remove the fan 
> altogether, very delicately. In doing that, which was very easy, i noticed 
> the small air entry grille was quite plugged with fluff. I suspect this was 
> causing the processor to run hot despite the fan running flat out, which in 
> turn set Tim about trying to turn it down using his “special” third party 
> software” as the fan noise annoyed him. So the root cause was probably the 
> restricted air flow into the fan from fluff!
> 
> Oh well, now my challenge is to locate another machine and determine how I 
> will migrate Tim’s backup without bringing back the SMC Fan Controller 
> software in the process. 
> 
> My choices, once I have a replacement machine (with High Sierra in place), 
> are to plug the old HDD via SATA and retrieve using Migration Assistant 
> (where I already deleted the SMC Fan Controller) and select the data to be 
> retrieved. Important things are Photos library, iTunes and other data but not 
> OSX related files. Is this level of selectivity something that MA allows? Any 
> other tips in this process?
> 
> Thanks for all those who chipped in with help for me in this, I really 
> appreciate it folks.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 22 May 2018, at 12:04 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pete,
>>  
>> A few more thoughts  ;o)
>>  
>>  • OK even though the first thoughts for fans OK but nothing else 
>> happens would tend to be a possible power supply or logic board failure – ie 
>> a hardware problem with the MBP is looking more likely, as you say you have 
>> not much to lose by trying a few long shots.
>>  • When things do start to go wrong/fail sometimes an initial problem is 
>> seen then other things occur – it is easy to get anchored into trying to 
>> troubleshoot the problem by focusing on the original problem/circumstances, 
>> whereas there may be additional, more serious, problems that are now present 
>> – I’m not saying that anything points to this, just to remain open to that 
>> probability.
>>  • Having opened up the MBP to remove/change the HDD there is also the 
>> possibility you may have disturbed something – this is obviously not the 
>> original problem but may be hiding/hindering its solution.
>>  
>> So – a few very long shots:
>>  • If sound has somehow been set to mute on your MBP you may not hear 
>> the start-up chime (well I just tested a restart on my El Capitan iMac after 
>> muting and no chime there)
>>  • Could the brightness have got set down to minimum on the MBP (though 
>> I would still expect that you would see something).
>>  • Could you have disturbed any lead/connector whilst in the MBP.
>>  • Could the RAM seating have got disturbed whilst you were in the MBP
>>  
>> Googling the problem obviously brings up lots of hits as I am sure you have 
>> found and perused. You have obviously tried all the obvious steps, as you 
>> said below. However, here are a few more long shots:
>>  
>> From < https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/6271/>
>>  • For me, the key was trying to start the computer with no RAM 
>> installed. After that succeeded, I went ahead and put a single RAM chip back 
>> in, and it 

Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

[Peter Crisp]

Hi there, well I tried all these things down below here and double checked my 
movements within the inside of the MBP and nothing disturbed I could see or 
looked like it shouldn’t from anything I touched. I tried booting with no RAM 
cards, then inserted previously used and operational RAM cards and still no 
change, no chime from it. 

So on Thursday, with fully a fully prepared written history of the recent 
events with it I dropped it to a local computer repair shop one I’ve used 
before and they’ve advised they could not resuscitate it. Likely Mother Board 
fault which would be expensive they say. It is a 2011 MBP after all but I’m 
disappointed as it was working fine prior to my son installing this third party 
software. I have no proof this was the cause of the fail but it is the most 
likely suspect. OSX is very reliable when left to itself.

In my final attempts to resurrect it, i thought I’d remove the fan altogether, 
very delicately. In doing that, which was very easy, i noticed the small air 
entry grille was quite plugged with fluff. I suspect this was causing the 
processor to run hot despite the fan running flat out, which in turn set Tim 
about trying to turn it down using his “special” third party software” as the 
fan noise annoyed him. So the root cause was probably the restricted air flow 
into the fan from fluff!

Oh well, now my challenge is to locate another machine and determine how I will 
migrate Tim’s backup without bringing back the SMC Fan Controller software in 
the process. 

My choices, once I have a replacement machine (with High Sierra in place), are 
to plug the old HDD via SATA and retrieve using Migration Assistant (where I 
already deleted the SMC Fan Controller) and select the data to be retrieved. 
Important things are Photos library, iTunes and other data but not OSX related 
files. Is this level of selectivity something that MA allows? Any other tips in 
this process?

Thanks for all those who chipped in with help for me in this, I really 
appreciate it folks.

Regards


Pete

> On 22 May 2018, at 12:04 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete,
>  
> A few more thoughts  ;o)
>  
> OK even though the first thoughts for fans OK but nothing else happens would 
> tend to be a possible power supply or logic board failure – ie a hardware 
> problem with the MBP is looking more likely, as you say you have not much to 
> lose by trying a few long shots.
> When things do start to go wrong/fail sometimes an initial problem is seen 
> then other things occur – it is easy to get anchored into trying to 
> troubleshoot the problem by focusing on the original problem/circumstances, 
> whereas there may be additional, more serious, problems that are now present 
> – I’m not saying that anything points to this, just to remain open to that 
> probability.
> Having opened up the MBP to remove/change the HDD there is also the 
> possibility you may have disturbed something – this is obviously not the 
> original problem but may be hiding/hindering its solution.
>  
> So – a few very long shots:
> If sound has somehow been set to mute on your MBP you may not hear the 
> start-up chime (well I just tested a restart on my El Capitan iMac after 
> muting and no chime there)
> Could the brightness have got set down to minimum on the MBP (though I would 
> still expect that you would see something).
> Could you have disturbed any lead/connector whilst in the MBP.
> Could the RAM seating have got disturbed whilst you were in the MBP
>  
> Googling the problem obviously brings up lots of hits as I am sure you have 
> found and perused. You have obviously tried all the obvious steps, as you 
> said below. However, here are a few more long shots:
>  
> From < https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/6271/>
> For me, the key was trying to start the computer with no RAM installed. After 
> that succeeded, I went ahead and put a single RAM chip back in, and it 
> started up.
> I put in a system CD and tried booting holding down the 'C' key. Nothing 
> happened. After a few more attempts, and thinking i was done for, I booted 
> it, holding down the CD eject key; wanted my system CD back. Lo and behold, 
> it booted! i have looked at many forums, but have never seen this solution. 
> (5 more posters reported that this worked for them!)
>  
> And this is an old one for an iMac G5 ;o) – but the logic is not computer 
> specific:
> One day, it decided not to even give me the POST chime. I took it to the 
> Apple ‘Genious” who promptly told me I needed a new logic board at a cost of 
> $440. I said no thanks and went home. I have been an electronics tech for 
> many years so I wasn’t going to let this go that easily.
>  
> I built enough clone PC’s back in the day to see a shorted component load 
> down the power supply and cause a seemingly unrelated component to appear 
> dead. This time was no exception. I unplugged everything from the logic board 
> except for the power supply and 

Re: Convert old modem to ethernet switch

[Alan Smith]

Thanks Tim

I agree with your comments.  I initially looked for Bridge mode settings, but 
this is not mentioned at all.  The instructions are to disable the DHCP in the 
proposed switch (Bob Lite, the downstream router), so this should just leave 
the Netgear (upstream router) to handle IP addresses. Same result?

The final step is to “change the downstream router’s LAN IP to an unused IP in 
the same subnet as the upstream router.”  I tried to change the Bob IP address 
to a number within the working range of the Netgear.  This range seems to be 
2-254.  On reflection it doesn’t seem to be right to use “99” as the addresses 
are dynamic (if that is the term) and will change to say 192.168.1.5 next week 
when some devices are inactive.  It’s the devices I plug into the ethernet 
ports that will need dynamic addresses I think.  And I don’t really know what a 
“subnet” is.

Another reading of one of the more lucid descriptions gives a different slant - 
I’ll try it out tomorrow.  That is, to change the network IP address to one 
OUTSIDE  the range used by the upstream router (but not numbers 0,1 and 255).  
But is “256” a valid number in this context?  Most examples I skimmed used “2” 
as the address for the modified modem/router, but I have numbers 2-15 in use at 
various times.  Looks like I need to spend some time reading the Netgear 
support documents - not an easy task.  

BTW - looks like a typo - or a real mistake - in my original text.  I thought I 
changed the Bob address to 192.168.1.99; not “169”.

Cheers
Alan



> On 25 May 2018, at 7:39 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> I suspect there will be something to do with Bridge mode in the directions.   
> Only one device can distribute IP addresses. 
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 25 May 2018, at 6:05 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> I need help in converting an old modem/router into an ethernet switch.  
>> There are a number of web articles that describe how to do this.  It seems 
>> such a simple 5-minute task, but I got nowhere after 5 hours.
>> 
>> My main network router is a Netgear R6400v2 model with four ethernet ports 
>> which are all in use.  I will be replacing the Netgear with an Apple AirPort 
>> Extreme with three ports.  I will need another port.
>> 
>> My ethernet VOIP adapter is an old iiNet Bob Lite modem/router which has 
>> four ethernet ports.  Netgear has no problems with this and allocates “Bob 
>> phone” an IP address in its standard range.   How can I get the three 
>> “spare” Bob Lite ports functional?
>> 
>> Just plugging an iMac into a spare ethernet port will sometimes just work, 
>> but then fails if restarted.  The Bob IP Address is 10.1.1.1 while Netgear 
>> IP address is 192.168.1.1.   I tried changing the Bob IP address to 
>> 192.169.1.99, but could no longer access the modem set-up page.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Alan
>> 
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Re: Convert old modem to ethernet switch

[Tim Law]

Hi Alan,

I suspect there will be something to do with Bridge mode in the directions.   
Only one device can distribute IP addresses. 

Tim

> On 25 May 2018, at 6:05 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> I need help in converting an old modem/router into an ethernet switch.  There 
> are a number of web articles that describe how to do this.  It seems such a 
> simple 5-minute task, but I got nowhere after 5 hours.
> 
> My main network router is a Netgear R6400v2 model with four ethernet ports 
> which are all in use.  I will be replacing the Netgear with an Apple AirPort 
> Extreme with three ports.  I will need another port.
> 
> My ethernet VOIP adapter is an old iiNet Bob Lite modem/router which has four 
> ethernet ports.  Netgear has no problems with this and allocates “Bob phone” 
> an IP address in its standard range.   How can I get the three “spare” Bob 
> Lite ports functional?
> 
> Just plugging an iMac into a spare ethernet port will sometimes just work, 
> but then fails if restarted.  The Bob IP Address is 10.1.1.1 while Netgear IP 
> address is 192.168.1.1.   I tried changing the Bob IP address to 
> 192.169.1.99, but could no longer access the modem set-up page.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
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computer shutting down

[Rosemary Spark]

Hi there,
Lost emails so copied from archive, sorry.

Still having problems with the computer shutting down...and losing stuff.

I got rid of Soundflower and some other 32 bit programs (though not all as
I still use them)

Tried PRAM, SMC reset etc

Etrecheck said i have had kernel panics with a samsung driver.(see below in
large print near end of report) I don't have the rest of the samsung
software. Can anyone tell me where would I find this driver to delete it?


Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
Mobile: 0414268043


EtreCheck Report

*EtreCheck version: **4.3.1 (4D024)*

*Report generated: **2018-05-25 18:34:39*

*Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com *

*Runtime: **4:15*

*Performance: **Good*

*Problem: *Computer is restarting

*Major Issues:*

Anything that appears on this list needs immediate attention.

*Kernel panics* - This system has experienced kernel panics. This could be
a sign of hardware failure.

*Heavy CPU usage* - Some processes are using an unusually high amount of
CPU.

*Minor Issues:*

These issues do not need immediate attention but they may indicate future
problems.

*Apps crashing* - There have been numerous app crashes.

*Apps with heavy CPU usage* - There have been numerous cases of apps with
heavy CPU usage.

*Clean up* - There are orphan files that could be removed.

*Unsigned files* - There is unsigned software installed. They appear to be
legitimate but should be reviewed.

*32-bit Apps* - This machine has 32-bits apps that may have problems in the
future.

*Abnormal shutdown* - Your machine shut down abnormally.

*Hardware Information:*

MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2017, Four Thunderbolt 3 ports)

MacBook Pro Model: MacBookPro14,2

1 3.1 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-7267U) CPU: 2-core

8 GB RAM - Not upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0 - 4 GB LPDDR3 2133 ok

BANK 1/DIMM0 - 4 GB LPDDR3 2133 ok

Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 56

*Video Information:*

Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 - VRAM: 1536 MB

Color LCD

*Drives:*

disk0 - APPLE SSD AP0512J 500.28 GB (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

Internal PCI-Express 8.0 GT/s x4 NVM Express

disk0s1 - EFI [EFI] 315 MB

disk0s2 499.96 GB

disk1s1 - Macintosh HD (APFS) 499.96 GB (470.42 GB used)

disk1s2 - Preboot (APFS) [APFS Preboot] 499.96 GB (21 MB used)

disk1s3 - Recovery (APFS) [Recovery] 499.96 GB (518 MB used)

disk1s4 - VM (APFS) [APFS VM] 499.96 GB (4.18 GB used)

disk2 - Seagate Expansion 2.00 TB

External USB 5 Gbit/s

disk2s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 0 B

disk3 - Samsung Portable SSD T5 500.11 GB

External USB 10 Gbit/s+

disk3s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB

disk3s2 - Sl (Journaled HFS+) 499.76 GB

*Mounted Volumes:*

disk1s1 - Macintosh HD 499.96 GB (24.74 GB free)

APFS

Mount point: /

disk1s4 - VM [APFS VM] 499.96 GB (24.74 GB free)

APFS

Mount point: /private/var/vm

disk3s2 - Sl 499.76 GB (9.18 GB free)

Journaled HFS+

Mount point: /Volumes/Sl

*Network:*

Interface lpss-serial1: LPSS Serial Adapter (1)

Interface lpss-serial2: LPSS Serial Adapter (2)

Interface en9: Thunderbolt Ethernet

Interface en8: iPad

Interface en7: iPhone

Interface en0: Wi-Fi

802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

One IPv4 address

2 IPv6 addresses

Interface en6: Bluetooth PAN

Interface bridge0: Thunderbolt Bridge

Interface bridge0: Thunderbolt Bridge 2

iCloud Quota: 34.00 GB available

*System Software:*

macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 (17E202)

Time since boot: Less than an hour

System Load: 7.50 (1 min ago) 15.43 (5 min ago) 8.84 (15 min ago)

*Security:*
*System* *Status*
Gatekeeper Mac App Store and identified developers
System Integrity Protection Enabled

*Unsigned Files:*

Launchd: /Library/LaunchAgents/com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist

Executable: /Library/Application
Support/Adobe/CS5ServiceManager/CS5ServiceManager.app/Contents/MacOS/CS5ServiceManager
-launchedbylogin

Details: Exact match found in the whitelist - probably OK

Launchd: /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist

Executable: /Library/Application
Support/Adobe/SwitchBoard/SwitchBoard.app/Contents/MacOS/launch.switchboard

Details: Exact match found in the whitelist - probably OK

Launchd: /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist

Executable: /Library/Internet
Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Resources/Helper-Tool

Details: Exact match found in the whitelist - probably OK

Launchd: /Library/LaunchAgents/com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist

Executable: /Library/Internet
Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Resources/Java
Updater.app/Contents/MacOS/Java Updater -bgcheck

Details: Exact match found in the whitelist - probably OK

Launchd: *~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.adobe.ARM.***.plist*

Executable: /Applications/Adobe Acrobat X Pro/Adobe Acrobat
Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Updater/Adobe Acrobat Updater
Helper.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Acrobat Updater Helper

Launchd: ~/Library/LaunchAgents/ws.agile.1PasswordAgent.plist

Executable: /Users/***/Library/Application

Convert old modem to ethernet switch

[Alan Smith]

I need help in converting an old modem/router into an ethernet switch.  There 
are a number of web articles that describe how to do this.  It seems such a 
simple 5-minute task, but I got nowhere after 5 hours.

My main network router is a Netgear R6400v2 model with four ethernet ports 
which are all in use.  I will be replacing the Netgear with an Apple AirPort 
Extreme with three ports.  I will need another port.

My ethernet VOIP adapter is an old iiNet Bob Lite modem/router which has four 
ethernet ports.  Netgear has no problems with this and allocates “Bob phone” an 
IP address in its standard range.   How can I get the three “spare” Bob Lite 
ports functional?

Just plugging an iMac into a spare ethernet port will sometimes just work, but 
then fails if restarted.  The Bob IP Address is 10.1.1.1 while Netgear IP 
address is 192.168.1.1.   I tried changing the Bob IP address to 192.169.1.99, 
but could no longer access the modem set-up page.

Cheers
Alan


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Re: opening appleworks docs

[Neil Houghton]

Yes, that's probably the best thing to try first - I would expect you to get a 
better result if you can actually get a version of Appleworks up and running 
and then open the files in that - then you should be able to save into a more 
useful (for you) format.


Cheers


Neil
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Albany, Western Australia

Tel: +61 8 9841 6063

Email: n...@possumology.com

-Original Message-
From:  on behalf of gary dorn 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Friday, 25 May 2018 at 17:00
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: opening appleworks docs

Thanks for the Tip Neil
I think I might try booting into 10.5.7 first

chow
Gary
> On 25 May 2018, at 4:10 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> This article:
> 

> Suggests that LibreOffice may be worth trying - seem to suggest mixed 
success depending on what type of appleworks documents they were.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
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> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  on behalf of gary 
dorn 
> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Friday, 25 May 2018 at 15:16
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: opening appleworks docs
> 
>howdy
> 
>I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to 
open
>is there any way of opening or viewing them 
> 
>Mac Os 10.11.6
> 
>I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5
> 
>chow
>Gary 
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Re: opening appleworks docs

[gary dorn]

Thanks for the Tip Neil
I think I might try booting into 10.5.7 first

chow
Gary
> On 25 May 2018, at 4:10 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> This article:
> 
> Suggests that LibreOffice may be worth trying - seem to suggest mixed success 
> depending on what type of appleworks documents they were.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
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> -Original Message-
> From:  on behalf of gary dorn 
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> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Friday, 25 May 2018 at 15:16
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: opening appleworks docs
> 
>howdy
> 
>I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
>is there any way of opening or viewing them 
> 
>Mac Os 10.11.6
> 
>I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5
> 
>chow
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Re: opening appleworks docs

[gary dorn]

Thanks for the tip David,
I tried opening in Pages, but these early docs were not in the Appleworks 6 
format which Pages need.

> On 25 May 2018, at 3:51 PM, David Noel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary, you may be able to open Appleworks text and spreadsheet files with 
> Pages and Numbers, respectively. Appleworks database files are more 
> difficult. Let me know if you need to open database files, but probably you 
> have text files.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> David Noel
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 May 2018 at 15:16, gary dorn > wrote:
> howdy
> 
> I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
> is there any way of opening or viewing them 
> 
> Mac Os 10.11.6
> 
> I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5
> 
> chow
> Gary 
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Re: opening appleworks docs

[gary dorn]

I’ll give that a try - thanks for the the tip.


chow
Gary
> On 25 May 2018, at 4:54 PM, Kaye and Geoff  wrote:
> 
> Hello Garry
> 
> On 25/05/2018, at 3:16 PM, gary dorn wrote:
> 
>> I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
>> is there any way of opening or viewing them 
>> 
>> Mac Os 10.11.6
>> 
>> I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5
> 
> 
> I am running 10.6.8 (yes, as my regular system) and I have Appleworks 6 which 
> runs and opens .CWK files. So I guess it will run on 10.5.7.
> 
> I have not looked but we might have an original CD, alternatively just 
> copying the executable on to your machine might work - things were simpler in 
> the "old" days.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Geoff
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> Kaye and Geoff
> k...@kgweb.org.au
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Re: opening appleworks docs

[Kaye and Geoff]

Hello Garry

On 25/05/2018, at 3:16 PM, gary dorn wrote:

> I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
> is there any way of opening or viewing them 
> 
> Mac Os 10.11.6
> 
> I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5


I am running 10.6.8 (yes, as my regular system) and I have Appleworks 6 which 
runs and opens .CWK files. So I guess it will run on 10.5.7.

I have not looked but we might have an original CD, alternatively just copying 
the executable on to your machine might work - things were simpler in the "old" 
days.

Regards

Geoff
---
Kaye and Geoff
k...@kgweb.org.au





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Re: opening appleworks docs

[Neil Houghton]

This article:

Suggests that LibreOffice may be worth trying - seem to suggest mixed success 
depending on what type of appleworks documents they were.


HTH

Cheers


Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



-Original Message-
From:  on behalf of gary dorn 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Friday, 25 May 2018 at 15:16
To: WAMUG 
Subject: opening appleworks docs

howdy

I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
is there any way of opening or viewing them 

Mac Os 10.11.6

I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5

chow
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Re: opening appleworks docs

[David Noel]

Hi Gary, you may be able to open Appleworks text and spreadsheet files with
Pages and Numbers, respectively. Appleworks database files are more
difficult. Let me know if you need to open database files, but probably you
have text files.

Cheers

David Noel



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> howdy
>
> I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
> is there any way of opening or viewing them
>
> Mac Os 10.11.6
>
> I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5
>
> chow
> Gary
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opening appleworks docs

[gary dorn]

howdy

I have some legacy appleworks docs ( from 1998)  which I would like to open
is there any way of opening or viewing them 

Mac Os 10.11.6

I can also boot into 10.5.7 and 10.7.5

chow
Gary 
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