Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

I agree with Neil's synopsis of history - if you have used one of the
applications for many years then you build your understanding of it
over those years and feel comfortable with it. I have necessarily
needed to use Outlook for my work in a Windows environment but I still
use Mail on my home MBP. I find both easy to use but Outlook is quite
a bit more advanced (in the Windows world) than Mail is on OSX. But
Mail is still more than capable to do all I need of it privately.  

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Hi Adam,

 

Yes, I use Outlook – not because I actually have any problem with
Apple Mail but more because I have stuck with Entourage & then Outlook
since the days when Apple Mail wasn’t as good an option. Mainly
though, back in the day, I used email much more at work than at home -
and work was generally MS based.

 

I also got very familiar with setting up various email rules – POP
rules, IMAP rules, server-side rules to direct emails from (at times)
up to around 15 different email accounts into various relevant
folders. I have less email accounts to worry about now - but still use
rules a lot. Now, no doubt, Apple Mail would let me achieve all the
same things – but I have decades of experience with the
Entourage/Outlook methods – and plenty off learning curves to ascend
as it is, I don’t need to add any more without sufficient reason!

 

Another plus - recently Georgie decided to replace her (very) old
iPhone with an Android phone – setting up Outlook on the Android
phone was pretty much just the same as on IOS.

 

 

As I recently posted, I finally moved to the subscription model for
Office and, regarding the cost, I would also note that my Office 365
subscription covers up to 6 people and up to 6 TB of cloud storage (1
TB per person) – whereas if you want more than 5GB/person of iCloud
storage you have to pay for it and if you need more than 200Gb you
have to jump to $15/person to get 2TB each. We only actually use 2 of
the 6 – but it still seems OK to me - also, don’t forget, you can
pretty much always find Office 365 subscriptions cheaper than the
standard MS price (I generally use Officeworks).

 

However, as with all these things, it really depends on what features
you want/need, how you intend to use them and across what spread of
users/devices/operating systems – what works best for me may well be
different to the best solution for other folks – despite marketing
department hopes/assumptions, I doubt there is such a thing as the
mythical “typical user” but even if this mythical creature exists,
it sure ain’t me!!

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Neil

 

 

 

 

FROM:  on behalf of Adam Lippiatt 
REPLY-TO: 
DATE: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 at 10:49
TO: 
SUBJECT: Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

 

Great price!  I have been using Office 365 for a number of years now
and I am not sure of the value of that at $99 per year.  I know at
that price it includes Outlook, but I never use it.  

 

[Does anyone use Outlook because, for instance, it is so much better
than Apple Mail?]

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

 

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On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:49 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:

 

Yes it is Peter.

 

But my apologies .. it was MS Office 2019 I got for that price.

I put the wrong year in my header.

 

I was running 2016 which is also 64 bit.

But my daughter’s new iMac would no longer run her 2011 MS Office.

So I got MS Office 2019 and passed my 2016 on to her.

On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:15 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:

 

Hi

Is that a 64bit program?

Kind regards

Peter

On 16 Jun 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi folks.

 

Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from
Software Depot for the above.

It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.

Regards,
Stephen Chape

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Adam,

 

Yes, I use Outlook – not because I actually have any problem with Apple Mail 
but more because I have stuck with Entourage & then Outlook since the days when 
Apple Mail wasn’t as good an option. Mainly though, back in the day, I used 
email much more at work than at home - and work was generally MS based.

 

I also got very familiar with setting up various email rules – POP rules, IMAP 
rules, server-side rules to direct emails from (at times) up to around 15 
different email accounts into various relevant folders. I have less email 
accounts to worry about now - but still use rules a lot. Now, no doubt, Apple 
Mail would let me achieve all the same things – but I have decades of 
experience with the Entourage/Outlook methods – and plenty off learning curves 
to ascend as it is, I don’t need to add any more without sufficient reason!

 

Another plus - recently Georgie decided to replace her (very) old iPhone with 
an Android phone – setting up Outlook on the Android phone was pretty much just 
the same as on IOS.

 

 

As I recently posted, I finally moved to the subscription model for Office and, 
regarding the cost, I would also note that my Office 365 subscription covers up 
to 6 people and up to 6 TB of cloud storage (1 TB per person) – whereas if you 
want more than 5GB/person of iCloud storage you have to pay for it and if you 
need more than 200Gb you have to jump to $15/person to get 2TB each. We only 
actually use 2 of the 6 – but it still seems OK to me - also, don’t forget, you 
can pretty much always find Office 365 subscriptions cheaper than the standard 
MS price (I generally use Officeworks).

 

However, as with all these things, it really depends on what features you 
want/need, how you intend to use them and across what spread of 
users/devices/operating systems – what works best for me may well be different 
to the best solution for other folks – despite marketing department 
hopes/assumptions, I doubt there is such a thing as the mythical “typical user” 
but even if this mythical creature exists, it sure ain’t me!!

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Neil

 

 

 

 

From:  on behalf of Adam 
Lippiatt 
Reply-To: 
Date: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 at 10:49
To: 
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

 

Great price!  I have been using Office 365 for a number of years now and I am 
not sure of the value of that at $99 per year.  I know at that price it 
includes Outlook, but I never use it.  

 

[Does anyone use Outlook because, for instance, it is so much better than Apple 
Mail?]

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

 

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adam.lippi...@me.com
0402 301 706 



On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:49 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:

 

Yes it is Peter.

 

But my apologies .. it was MS Office 2019 I got for that price.

I put the wrong year in my header.

 

I was running 2016 which is also 64 bit.

But my daughter’s new iMac would no longer run her 2011 MS Office.

So I got MS Office 2019 and passed my 2016 on to her.



On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:15 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:

 

Hi

Is that a 64bit program?

Kind regards

Peter




On 16 Jun 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi folks.

 

Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from Software Depot 
for the above.

It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.


Regards,
Stephen Chape

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Rosemary Spark]

No way! I have to use Outlook for my uni mail. It is very clunky. In fact,
I usually use gmail...works for me.
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 10:49, Adam Lippiatt  wrote:

> Great price!  I have been using Office 365 for a number of years now and I
> am not sure of the value of that at $99 per year.  I know at that price it
> includes Outlook, but I never use it.
>
> [Does anyone use Outlook because, for instance, it is so much better than
> Apple Mail?]
>
> Thanks
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> _
> Adam Lippiatt
> adam.lippi...@me.com
> 0402 301 706
>
> On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:49 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>
> Yes it is Peter.
>
> But my apologies .. it was MS Office 2019 I got for that price.
> I put the wrong year in my header.
>
> I was running 2016 which is also 64 bit.
> But my daughter’s new iMac would no longer run her 2011 MS Office.
> So I got MS Office 2019 and passed my 2016 on to her.
>
> On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:15 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>
> Hi
> Is that a 64bit program?
> Kind regards
> Peter
>
> On 16 Jun 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from Software
> Depot for the above.
> It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.
>
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Stephen Chape]

Yes it is Peter.

But my apologies .. it was MS Office 2019 I got for that price.
I put the wrong year in my header.

I was running 2016 which is also 64 bit.
But my daughter’s new iMac would no longer run her 2011 MS Office.
So I got MS Office 2019 and passed my 2016 on to her.

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:15 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> Is that a 64bit program?
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 16 Jun 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from Software 
>> Depot for the above.
>> It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
Is that a 64bit program?
Kind regards
Peter

> On 16 Jun 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from Software 
> Depot for the above.
> It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Time Machine backup content

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

I had forgotten that when I was using Time Machine to backup on my old 17-inch 
MacBook Pro I also used Timetracker to display the contents of Time Machine 
backups and found it very good.
I think I stopped using Timetracker when I upgraded the OS and Timetracker 
wasn’t compatible. 

Kind Regards,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 16 Jun 2020, at 8:25 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, sorry for taking so long to respond to your kind note. Last night 
> (with "backupd" in the search window) I had a look and made sure "All 
> Messages" (top left) was selected and "Macbook Pro" was selected in the 
> devices panel. I see a range of line items in the main panel which provides 
> information which I cannot interpret what it is actually saying. It is in 
> 'computer speak' but notwithstanding that, with Timetracker, I have been able 
> to see exactly what content (and how many MB for each component part of it) 
> was included in these backups.
> 
> So much stuff being backed up for seemingly no good reason, but then I am 
> sure it is only doing what it has been programmed to do. Invaluable to 
> recover from a HDD loss (which I have had once). 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
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> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
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> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Wed, 10 Jun 2020 19:03:11 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: Time Machine backup content
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Do you have “All Messages” selected under the log database in the left column?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:22 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that Ronni. I had a look in there using Console on my wifes MBP 
> (2011) and when I type in "backupd" i get a blank panel on the right side. 
> Does it depend on the selection on the left side panel?
> 
> I also went looking for the application I was thinking of and I found it (on 
> my MBP). It is called TimeTracker. A third party app. I used it many years 
> ago from similar curiosities about huge backups happening with little or no 
> activity on the MBP. 
> 
> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36691/timetracker
> 
> I don't have this on my wifes MBP so when I get time I'll install and have a 
> look at the backup content report. 
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
> 
> 
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> To:
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> Sent:
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> Re: Time Machine backup content
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Everything that Time Machine does is logged to the system log, so it is 
> possible to get more detailed reports on its activities. 
> Open Console in Applications/Utilities
> To find the activity for Time Machine, you only need to know that the Time 
> Machine process is called backupd. 
> Click in the search box at the top right of the window (or just press 
> Command-Option-F), then type backupd as you type, Console will filter the 
> results to only show those entries related to the backupd process. 
> 
> The filtered output results are shown in three columns and it’s the Message 
> column that’s most useful. The messages reveal how much data was backed up, 
> what older backups were removed, and other general information about the 
> backup run.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 10 Jun 2020, at 9:32 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, I did a search in the WAMUG archives and couldn't find the thread 
> which shows how to interrogate the actual backed up content for each hourly 
> backup for TM. 
> 
> Reason I ask is that I am bringing my wifes TM backup up to date as it had 
> been manually stopped for a short period, then forgotten about (a few 
> months!!!) and now back in business. So yesterday I set it off again (used 
> the Ethernet connection as I knew it would be a large backup). She also had 
> clear out a LOT of photos off her iphone which meant it would be huge. So 
> yesterday it set off (75GB) and by this morning it was finished. I've been 
> monitoring it through this morning and I have seen subsequent hourly backups 
> SINCE completing successfully the 75GB backup and the subsequent hourly 
> backups have been 745MB and 220MB each. There was zero activity on the MBP 
> since waking it this morning.
> 
> Why would there be subsequent backups of such size with no specific activity 
> on the keyboard. Obviously there is something being backed up and I'd like to 
> investigate.
> 
> How do I do this?
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> 
> Peter Crisp
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> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash 

Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.

Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from Software Depot 
for the above.
It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.

Regards,
Stephen Chape






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