[WAMUG] E-mail.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Good Morning fellow Wamuggers,
I am having a problem with my r-mail. I can receive mail but I can’t send mail, 
I have tried to follow the instructions on the computer and on line but still 
no success. Any ideas please?
Kind regards 
Tony
Boddington 

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Re: [WAMUG] Spam.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hi Guy’s

Just like to let you know that I keep getting these e-mails on a regular basis, 
and I’m wondering if anyone else is getting them?

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON
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Re: [WAMUG] "Buy3 and get 1 free"

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Good Morning all

Thank you to the Committee, what a lovely gesture and of course a lovely 
Christmas present.

Wishing all of the members a very Merry Christmas and a Happy & prosperous New 
Year.

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

Boddington

W.A.


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Re: [WAMUG] Finder - Recents.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hello Fellow WAMUGGERS,
All good, reset the MacBook Pro to Factory Settings  today.
Enjoy your weekend.
Kind Regards
Tony Francis
BODDINGTON
W.A.

> On 8 Dec 2023, at 5:02 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Guy’s
> I have a 2008 Mac Book Pro that I want to return to factory settings, as I am 
> giving it away as a gift.
> The MacBook Pro is operating Yosemite 10.10.5.
> I have tried researching on line but the more you read the more confusing it 
> becomes, so I return to WAMUG for the security and sound advice.
> Thanks guy’s
> Tony Francis
> Boddington
> WA.
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2023, at 1:52 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you to the members that replied. I saved myself some grief.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony Francis
>> 
>> BODDINGTON
>> 
>> W. A.
>> 
>>>> On 12 Oct 2023, at 20:58, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tony
>>> 
>>> Yes, as Tim mentioned, you don’t want to delete those, or you will lose it.
>>> Recents is just a “ghost image” of where all your files are stored 
>>> currently in other places on the computers. So if you delete them, you’re 
>>> technically deleting the originals.
>>> Easiest way to not see them, is to change what you see when you click on 
>>> Finder.
>>> 
>>> To do that, go to Finder.
>>> Then go to the Finder menu and click on Preferences. (Or Settings in 
>>> Ventura and above).
>>> Then click on General.
>>> Under “New Finder windows show” - you can then change “Recent” to say 
>>> “Documents” or your user directory (eg “Tony" or whatever your user account 
>>> is called).
>>> Then close that window.
>>> 
>>> Now, when you click on Finder (“the little smiley person on the left of the 
>>> Dock”), you’ll get taken to the folder you selected above.
>>> I tend to have mine just open to my User directory, as then I can go to all 
>>> my main folders from there - Desktop, Documents, etc.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
>>> p : 0414 795 960
>>> e : 
>>> w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **For everything Apple**
>>> 
>>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
>>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of 
>>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of 
>>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any 
>>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, 
>>> that permission by the author be requested.
>>> 
>>>>> On 12 Oct 2023, at 5:06 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Guy’s
>>>> Just a question, when opening the FINDER it opens with RECENT, can I just 
>>>> delete all of the recent activity? Or will I lose the original files?
>>>> 
>>>> I know that I should know the answer but I’m just making sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks all
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Tony Francis
>>>> 
>>>> BODDINGTON
>>>> 
>>>> W.A.
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Re: [WAMUG] Finder - Recents.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hi Guy’s 
I have a 2008 Mac Book Pro that I want to return to factory settings, as I am 
giving it away as a gift. 
The MacBook Pro is operating Yosemite 10.10.5.
I have tried researching on line but the more you read the more confusing it 
becomes, so I return to WAMUG for the security and sound advice.
Thanks guy’s 
Tony Francis
Boddington
WA.

> On 14 Oct 2023, at 1:52 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
> 
> Thank you to the members that replied. I saved myself some grief.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony Francis
> 
> BODDINGTON
> 
> W. A.
> 
>> On 12 Oct 2023, at 20:58, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tony
>> 
>> Yes, as Tim mentioned, you don’t want to delete those, or you will lose it.
>> Recents is just a “ghost image” of where all your files are stored currently 
>> in other places on the computers. So if you delete them, you’re technically 
>> deleting the originals.
>> Easiest way to not see them, is to change what you see when you click on 
>> Finder.
>> 
>> To do that, go to Finder.
>> Then go to the Finder menu and click on Preferences. (Or Settings in Ventura 
>> and above).
>> Then click on General.
>> Under “New Finder windows show” - you can then change “Recent” to say 
>> “Documents” or your user directory (eg “Tony" or whatever your user account 
>> is called).
>> Then close that window.
>> 
>> Now, when you click on Finder (“the little smiley person on the left of the 
>> Dock”), you’ll get taken to the folder you selected above.
>> I tend to have mine just open to my User directory, as then I can go to all 
>> my main folders from there - Desktop, Documents, etc.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> p : 0414 795 960
>> e : 
>> w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of 
>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of 
>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any 
>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that 
>> permission by the author be requested.
>> 
>>>> On 12 Oct 2023, at 5:06 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guy’s
>>> Just a question, when opening the FINDER it opens with RECENT, can I just 
>>> delete all of the recent activity? Or will I lose the original files?
>>> 
>>> I know that I should know the answer but I’m just making sure.
>>> 
>>> Thanks all
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> 
>>> Tony Francis
>>> 
>>> BODDINGTON
>>> 
>>> W.A.
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Re: [WAMUG] Finder - Recents.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Thank you to the members that replied. I saved myself some grief.

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON

W. A.

> On 12 Oct 2023, at 20:58, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony
> 
> Yes, as Tim mentioned, you don’t want to delete those, or you will lose it.
> Recents is just a “ghost image” of where all your files are stored currently 
> in other places on the computers. So if you delete them, you’re technically 
> deleting the originals.
> Easiest way to not see them, is to change what you see when you click on 
> Finder.
> 
> To do that, go to Finder.
> Then go to the Finder menu and click on Preferences. (Or Settings in Ventura 
> and above).
> Then click on General.
> Under “New Finder windows show” - you can then change “Recent” to say 
> “Documents” or your user directory (eg “Tony" or whatever your user account 
> is called).
> Then close that window.
> 
> Now, when you click on Finder (“the little smiley person on the left of the 
> Dock”), you’ll get taken to the folder you selected above. 
> I tend to have mine just open to my User directory, as then I can go to all 
> my main folders from there - Desktop, Documents, etc.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> p : 0414 795 960
> e : 
> w : <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 12 Oct 2023, at 5:06 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Guy’s 
>> Just a question, when opening the FINDER it opens with RECENT, can I just 
>> delete all of the recent activity? Or will I lose the original files?
>> 
>> I know that I should know the answer but I’m just making sure.
>> 
>> Thanks all
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony Francis
>> 
>> BODDINGTON
>> 
>> W.A.
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Re: [WAMUG] Finder - Recents.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hi Guy’s 
Just a question, when opening the FINDER it opens with RECENT, can I just 
delete all of the recent activity? Or will I lose the original files?

I know that I should know the answer but I’m just making sure.

Thanks all

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON

W.A.
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Re: [WAMUG] Tuesday's meeting

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hi Daniel

All done thank you. It was getting annoying, popping up every few minutes.

Take care

Tony

> On 4 Oct 2023, at 10:03, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony
> 
> It’s actually not a virus or Malware. So scans won’t pick it up. 
> It’s a weird notification and you can remove it as follows. 
> 
> Open Safari. 
> Go to preferences. / Settings
> Go to Websites
> On the left hand side Go right to the bottom to Notifications. Click on this. 
> On the right hand side you’ll see a list of things. At the very top of this 
> will be one that just has a small icon but no text beside it. Click on it 
> once. 
> Then click remove down the bottom. 
> 
> It will then remove it and you shouldn’t get the notifications anymore 
> (You may need to Quit and re-open Safari again. )
> 
> But that should remove it and resolve it. 
> Kind regards 
> Daniel
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro 
> 
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>> On 4 Oct 2023, at 9:36 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Morning fellow wamuggers
>> 
>> It’s been a while and sorry I missed the meeting yesterday, I would have 
>> liked to learn a little more about AIRDROP.
>> 
>> My reason for contacting the list today is because I am being bombarded with 
>> a message that keeps repeating every 5 or so minutes, it shows in the top 
>> right hand corner of my desktop under the safari logo telling me that I have 
>> 5 viruses in my system and the name used is VINEGARD ?? I have tried to find 
>> the source as to how this message is activated but I can’t find it, the 
>> message appears even with the wireless turned off, so it’s within my system 
>> somewhere.
>> Any thoughts guy’s?
>> 
>> Thanks all, have a great day
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony Francis
>> 
>> BODDINGTON
>> 
>> W.A.
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2023, at 15:45, Maureen Smith via WAMUG  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Fellow WAMUGers,
>>> 
>>> I learn a lot in meetings.  For instance, did you know that by bending
>>> a paper clip once, you can make a pretty cool ‘S’?
>>> 
>>> However, I didn’t learn that in a WAMUG general monthly meeting, but I
>>> have learnt other things.
>>> 
>>> Our October general meeting is this Tuesday, 3rd October at 7:30pm.
>>> Here are the details
>>> 
>>> MEETING TOPICS
>>> 
>>> 1 Available or coming in macOS Sonoma
>>> 
>>> 2 Airdropping over the internet
>>> 
>>> 3 Creating a collaborative playlist
>>> 
>>> 4 A look at a Journal App
>>> 
>>> 5 iWork apps have added support for USDZ format, which Apple says
>>> brings "new dimension" to users' documents and presentations "with 3D
>>> objects. (Needs Ventura at minimum to work.)
>>> 
>>> MEETING AND LOGIN DETAILS
>>> 
>>> Date: Tuesday 3RD October
>>> 
>>> Time: 07:30 PM (Usually lasts an hour)
>>> 
>>> Zoom Meeting Link: [1]https://bit.ly/3rAsIhQ
>>> 
>>> Meeting ID: 875 1825 8878
>>> 
>>> Passcode:  917609
>>> 
>>> If you have problems with the link or prefer to go 'Old School,' follow
>>> these instructions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   * Type [2]zoom.us into your browser's address bar.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   * At the login screen, click the Join button. (located on the black
>>> coloured bar, third from the right)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   * At the Join Meeting screen, type in the meeting ID included in this
>>> email
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   * Finally, click Allow on the dialog box shown in your browser. If
>>> you don't see a dialogue, click the Launch Meeting button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   We will be there waiting and looking forward to seeing you.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Maureen
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>> 1. https://bit.ly/3rAsIhQ
>>> 2. http://zoom.us/
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Re: [WAMUG] Tuesday's meeting

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Good Morning fellow wamuggers

It’s been a while and sorry I missed the meeting yesterday, I would have liked 
to learn a little more about AIRDROP.

My reason for contacting the list today is because I am being bombarded with a 
message that keeps repeating every 5 or so minutes, it shows in the top right 
hand corner of my desktop under the safari logo telling me that I have 5 
viruses in my system and the name used is VINEGARD ?? I have tried to find the 
source as to how this message is activated but I can’t find it, the message 
appears even with the wireless turned off, so it’s within my system somewhere.
Any thoughts guy’s?

Thanks all, have a great day

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON

W.A.

> On 2 Oct 2023, at 15:45, Maureen Smith via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hello Fellow WAMUGers,
> 
>   I learn a lot in meetings.  For instance, did you know that by bending
>   a paper clip once, you can make a pretty cool ‘S’?
> 
>   However, I didn’t learn that in a WAMUG general monthly meeting, but I
>   have learnt other things.
> 
>   Our October general meeting is this Tuesday, 3rd October at 7:30pm.
>   Here are the details
> 
>   MEETING TOPICS
> 
>   1 Available or coming in macOS Sonoma
> 
>   2 Airdropping over the internet
> 
>   3 Creating a collaborative playlist
> 
>   4 A look at a Journal App
> 
>   5 iWork apps have added support for USDZ format, which Apple says
>   brings "new dimension" to users' documents and presentations "with 3D
>   objects. (Needs Ventura at minimum to work.)
> 
>   MEETING AND LOGIN DETAILS
> 
>   Date: Tuesday 3RD October
> 
>   Time: 07:30 PM (Usually lasts an hour)
> 
>   Zoom Meeting Link: [1]https://bit.ly/3rAsIhQ
> 
>   Meeting ID: 875 1825 8878
> 
>   Passcode:  917609
> 
>   If you have problems with the link or prefer to go 'Old School,' follow
>   these instructions.
> 
> 
> * Type [2]zoom.us into your browser's address bar.
> 
> 
> * At the login screen, click the Join button. (located on the black
>   coloured bar, third from the right)
> 
> 
> * At the Join Meeting screen, type in the meeting ID included in this
>   email
> 
> 
> * Finally, click Allow on the dialog box shown in your browser. If
>   you don't see a dialogue, click the Launch Meeting button.
> 
> 
> We will be there waiting and looking forward to seeing you.
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Maureen
> 
> References
> 
>   1. https://bit.ly/3rAsIhQ
>   2. http://zoom.us/
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Re: [WAMUG] Corrupt Card.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

   Hi Stephen

   Thank you for your advice, I’ll give it a go. Does the program actually
   look for the corrupted Card? The main problem that I am having is that
   I can’t locate the card, if the card can’t be located then I can’t
   retrieve the Photo’s.

   Hopefully there is some way of retrieving the photo’s. I wrote to the
   Card Company asking if they could help, I’m still waiting for a reply.

   Thank you again Stephen, I’ll let the group know of the results either
   way.

   Kind Regards

   Tony

 On 28 Jan 2023, at 4:21 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:

   

 Hi Tony.

   I downloaded an app called “Picture Rescue 2” a while ago.

   It worked brilliantly to save some image files from a corrupted drive.

   I have now used it twice with great success.

   I suggest looking for it and downloading.

   On 28 Jan 2023, at 2:43 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG
wrote:

   Good Afternoon Members
   I have a Corrupted Compact Flash Card that I am hoping to retrieve the
   photo’s from.
   1. I have tried first to have the Computer recognise the Card, no
   success.
   2. I have downloaded a Program called DISKDRILL to enable me to find
   and save the files on the card, to have DISKDRILL save the files I
   first have to have the card available, which is why I’m writing, a fair
   while ago I had a similar problem and Ronni Browne helped me locate a
   missing card that wasn’t showing, but I have forgotten what Ronni told
   me to do.
   3. I shut down the Computer and then restarted the Computer with the
   Card Reader and Card attached, the Computer when starting wouldn’t go
   any further than showing a Black Screen and the Apple logo, I
   disconnected the Card reader and the Computer then finished the start
   up.
   Is there anything else I could do? I have researched on line but the
   directions are all alike, find the card and then start the recovery
   program, first I have to find the card.
   Thank you
   Kind Regards
   Tony Francis
   Boddington.
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Re: [WAMUG] Corrupt Card.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Good Afternoon Members

I have a Corrupted Compact Flash Card that I am hoping to retrieve the photo’s 
from.

1. I have tried first to have the Computer recognise the Card, no success.

2. I have downloaded a Program called DISKDRILL to enable me to find and save 
the files on the card, to have DISKDRILL save the files I first have to have 
the card available, which is why I’m writing, a fair while ago I had a similar 
problem and Ronni Browne helped me locate a missing card that wasn’t showing, 
but I have forgotten what Ronni told me to do.

3. I shut down the Computer and then restarted the Computer with the Card 
Reader and Card attached, the Computer when starting wouldn’t go any further 
than showing a Black Screen and the Apple logo, I disconnected the Card reader 
and the Computer then finished the start up.

Is there anything else I could do? I have researched on line but the directions 
are all alike, find the card and then start the recovery program, first I have 
to find the card.

Thank you

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

Boddington.
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Re: [WAMUG] Fwd: Subscription paid

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

The numbers you’ve quoted are the BSB for P Bank, correct.
Tony
Boddington 

> On 19 Jan 2023, at 7:25 pm, Rosemary Spark via WAMUG 
>  wrote:
> 
>    I paid my subscription but the BSB resolves to 806-015 (Cuscal Limited)
>   I hope that is right.
>   Cheers
>   Rosemary Spark
>   PO Box 781
>   South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>   Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>   Mobile: 0414268043
>   Email: [1]arkaysp...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Annual Fees.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hello Fellow Wamuggers

Just paid my Annual Membership fee $20.00.

Thank you

Tony

Boddington
W.A.
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Re: [WAMUG] Virus

[Anthony (Tony) Francis via WAMUG]

Hi Guy’s

Lynette and I would get at least 3 of these nuisance e-mails per day, we just 
delete them.

Tony

> On 9 Aug 2022, at 07:51, Peter Crisp via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
>   Yes, agreed to all those below. Classic giveaway is where it starts
>   "Hello, we can't invoice you properly, you will be disconnected if you
>   don't resolve". A name is never provided by a scammer.
> 
>   Kind Regards
> 
>   Peter Crisp
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>   Cc:
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> "Susan Hastings" 
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>   Sent:
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> Tue, 9 Aug 2022 08:16:39 +1000
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> Re: [WAMUG] Virus
> Hi Juliet, I’m getting heaps of emails regarding security and anti
> virus programs and I send them all to junk. I’ve even had one
> pretending to be my internet provider. You can rely on them all as
> being scams. Cheers, Susan.
> Sent from my iPad
>> On 9 Aug 2022, at 8:10 am, Juliet Kitson via WAMUG
>  wrote:
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>>  Thanks Pete,
>> I did just that.
>> Regards Juliet
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:19 AM Pete Smith via WAMUG
>> <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Juliet.
>> I wouldn’t trust it. I don’t think it’s Apple. That would an
>> admission
>> that their security is poor - which I don’t think it is.
>> As for any one else, how would they know whether you have any
>> viruses
>> or trojans on your computer anyway?
>> I would just delete the email.
>> That’s my personal view anyway.
>> Regards,
>> Pete Smith
>> On 8 Aug 2022, at 13:52, Juliet Kitson via WAMUG
>> <[1][2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>> Hello
>> I am usually very suspicious of weird messages just got one
>> with the
>> apple logo in the top corner warning of trojans and virus
>> "[2]I-protect.com" telling me to scan any advice would be
>> appreciated.
>> Regards Juliet
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