Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Yes and still no luck registering which has me confused if it works for some why not for me? I have tried to resolve this on both my Macbook Pro using 10.5.6 and Firefox 3 as well as on my Imac using 10.4.11 and Firefox 3 with the plug in loaded on both. A mystery ... On 09/04/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Reply-To: rkor...@iinet.net.au Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:47:10 +0800 Message-Id: 42089.1239176...@iinet.net.au X-Mailer: AtMail 4.51 - 202.41.193.62 - rkor...@iinet.net.au did you go to this site and download the plugin? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 On Wed Apr 8 15:16 , David Paul dp...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au sent: Thanks Roger but this site still will not let me register even after=20=20 upgrading to Firefox3! Perhaps I am missing a basic step. Dave On 08/04/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:53 +0800 References: list-465...@wamug.org.au list-465...@wamug.org.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Hi everyone the site worked fine for me :) I used firefox 3 and there is a plugin that lets you switch user agents, I used explorer 7. Its called user agent switcher Roger -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Thanks Roger but this site still will not let me register even after upgrading to Firefox3! Perhaps I am missing a basic step. Dave On 08/04/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:53 +0800 References: list-465...@wamug.org.au list-465...@wamug.org.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Hi everyone the site worked fine for me :) I used firefox 3 and there is a plugin that lets you switch user agents, I used explorer 7. Its called user agent switcher Roger -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Hi Paul, Have you downloaded and installed the User Agent Switcher v. o.6.11 for Firefox v 3.0.x? Once it is installed it is under Tools in the Menu bar. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 Cheers, Ronni On 08/04/2009, at 3:16 PM, David Paul wrote: Thanks Roger but this site still will not let me register even after upgrading to Firefox3! Perhaps I am missing a basic step. Dave On 08/04/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:53 +0800 References: list-465...@wamug.org.au list-465...@wamug.org.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Hi everyone the site worked fine for me :) I used firefox 3 and there is a plugin that lets you switch user agents, I used explorer 7. Its called user agent switcher Roger -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
did you go to this site and download the plugin? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 On Wed Apr 8 15:16 , David Paul dp...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au sent: Thanks Roger but this site still will not let me register even after upgrading to Firefox3! Perhaps I am missing a basic step. Dave On 08/04/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:53 +0800 References: list-465...@wamug.org.au list-465...@wamug.org.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Hi everyone the site worked fine for me :) I used firefox 3 and there is a plugin that lets you switch user agents, I used explorer 7. Its called user agent switcher Roger -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au ) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Hi Wamuggers The reason that this site requires IE is that it uses vbscript code, which as far as I know can only be understood by IE, although it may be that other browsers can interpret it with the help of a plug-in. If they had used Javascript then any browser could handle it, but many government departments are so Microsoft blinkered that this is beyond both their imagination and capability. This means that purely changing the user agent, which most browsers including Safari 3 will do for you, will not solve the problem. In fact a quick look at the HTML for the site suggests that it does not even check to see what user agent is being used. Anyone trying the site using a slow connection should be aware that the main page includes a 20Mb(!) flash file - another example of their lack of concern for their clients, many of whom will live in the country and will not have broadband connections. Your taxes at work. Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: k...@kgweb.org.au web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
be that as it may I was able to register and sign on using Firefox with the plug in which is all I have tried!! Its always worth letting them know there are other users who do not use windows. regards On 08/04/2009, at 5:43 PM, Kaye and Geoff wrote: Hi Wamuggers The reason that this site requires IE is that it uses vbscript code, which as far as I know can only be understood by IE, although it may be that other browsers can interpret it with the help of a plug-in. If they had used Javascript then any browser could handle it, but many government departments are so Microsoft blinkered that this is beyond both their imagination and capability. This means that purely changing the user agent, which most browsers including Safari 3 will do for you, will not solve the problem. In fact a quick look at the HTML for the site suggests that it does not even check to see what user agent is being used. Anyone trying the site using a slow connection should be aware that the main page includes a 20Mb(!) flash file - another example of their lack of concern for their clients, many of whom will live in the country and will not have broadband connections. Your taxes at work. Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: k...@kgweb.org.au web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Roger P Kortas Haiyan Kortas PH: 61 8 08 9381 4046 Mob: 0413 307995 rkor...@iinet.net.au roger.kor...@wanews.com.au ro...@rkortas.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Hi everyone the site worked fine for me :) I used firefox 3 and there is a plugin that lets you switch user agents, I used explorer 7. Its called user agent switcher Roger On 07/04/2009, at 7:08 PM, David Paul wrote: Thanks Ronni, Bob and Merv Unfortunately the Safari - user agent - IE made no difference to registering or access. Have tried the SLIP registration which is a Landgate web service so not sure if it will influence the Ag Depts service access - will keep you posted. Dave On 07/04/2009, at 5:00 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:19:57 +0800 References: list-465...@wamug.org.au list-465...@wamug.org.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) On 06/04/2009, at 7:47 PM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: Hi David Have you tried going through the registration process set out on: https://www2.landgate.wa.gov.au/slip/portal/tools/register-why.html Merv Have you tried : Safari - develop - user agent internet explorer . If your safari drop down menu's do not show the Develop options go to Safari preferences = advanced tick the box bottom of window for Show develop menu Bob Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Roger P Kortas Haiyan Kortas PH: 61 8 08 9381 4046 Mob: 0413 307995 rkor...@iinet.net.au roger.kor...@wanews.com.au ro...@rkortas.com -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Thanks Ronni, Bob and Merv Unfortunately the Safari - user agent - IE made no difference to registering or access. Have tried the SLIP registration which is a Landgate web service so not sure if it will influence the Ag Depts service access - will keep you posted. Dave On 07/04/2009, at 5:00 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote: Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:19:57 +0800 References: list-465...@wamug.org.au list-465...@wamug.org.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) On 06/04/2009, at 7:47 PM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: Hi David Have you tried going through the registration process set out on: https://www2.landgate.wa.gov.au/slip/portal/tools/register-why.html Merv Have you tried : Safari - develop - user agent internet explorer . If your safari drop down menu's do not show the Develop options go to Safari preferences = advanced tick the box bottom of window for Show develop menu Bob Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
David, it is a sign, if a government department tells us only IE users matter, we should all just sell our Macs and get Windows/IE so we can access the web. And we should probably ignore stuff like this ... http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/firefox-3-marketshare-exceeds-internet-explorer-7-in-europe.ars Glenn. 2009/4/6 David Paul dp...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Fwd: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Thanks Ronni Will have a go at AdobeSVG Viewer Begin forwarded message: From: Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au Date: 6 April 2009 4:11:17 PM To: dp...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Hello Paul, Would you mind forwarding this my reply to your message to WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au please? Looks like my ISP Westnet is being blacklisted at the moment. Cheers, Ronni - This is the Postfix program at host hosted06.westnet.com.au. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program wamug@wamug.org.au: host mail.wamug.org.au[203.33.71.50] said: 591 your host [203.10.1.221] is blacklisted by dnsbl.sorbs.net. Send your questions to blacklist-ad...@wamug.org.au (in reply to RCPT TO command) Reporting-MTA: dns; hosted06.westnet.com.au X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 328D7223C82 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; ro...@wn.com.au Arrival-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:43:51 +0800 (WST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; wamug@wamug.org.au Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mail.wamug.org.au[203.33.71.50] said: 591 your host [203.10.1.221] is blacklisted by dnsbl.sorbs.net. Send your questions to blacklist-ad...@wamug.org.au (in reply to RCPT TO command) From: Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au Date: 6 April 2009 3:43:50 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Hello David, I'm not sure if this will help you. Looks like you require to download and install Adobe SVG Plugin as this site uses SVG Map Format. A problem might arise though as Adobe has decided to discontinue support for Adobe SVG Viewer starting from January 1, 2008. They even plan to remove Adobe SVG Viewer from the Adobe.com download area on January 1, 2009, and redistribution by third parties is not allowed by the licence. http://www.svg.org/story/2006/11/10/174554/10 Adobe SVG Viewer Download Area: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/main.html Cheers, Ronni On 06/04/2009, at 3:06 PM, David Paul wrote: Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Hi David Have you tried going through the registration process set out on: https://www2.landgate.wa.gov.au/slip/portal/tools/register-why.html Merv Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Hi Paul Ring the Dept. contact person and tell them you have been advised to lodge a complaint with the ACCC. Regards Darrel On 06/04/2009, at 3:06 PM, David Paul wrote: Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
On 06/04/2009, at 7:47 PM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: Hi David Have you tried going through the registration process set out on: https://www2.landgate.wa.gov.au/slip/portal/tools/register-why.html Merv Have you tried : Safari - develop - user agent internet explorer . If your safari drop down menu's do not show the Develop options go to Safari preferences = advanced tick the box bottom of window for Show develop menu Bob Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Fwd: Agriculture WA Explorer only?
Begin forwarded message: From: Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au Date: 6 April 2009 4:59:18 PM To: David Paul dp...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Hi David, Actually they are not allowed design website that are for specific browsers, but WA Govt has had a few like this in the past. At the moment I cannot remember the Web Link where you report these issues. I'll have a quick search of my Archives and if I find it I'll let you or WAMUG (when I can post again) know. Would you mind letting WAMUG list know that this browser will only work in Classic and should not be installed in Leopard. Just forward my previous email I sent to you. I'm out of here now. Ronni On 06/04/2009, at 4:56 PM, David Paul wrote: Thanks Ronni - why do they persist in making browser limited programs / interactive sites hope I do not have resort to borrowing a PC or, horror of horrors, setting up a windows environment on my macbook pro. Safari 3 does have SVG capability. Dave On 06/04/2009, at 4:47 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hey David, Looks like this plugin will only work in Classic and we cannot run classic in Leopard OS X 10.5 Ronni On 06/04/2009, at 4:31 PM, David Paul wrote: Thanks Ronni Have forwarded your email to the list. Dave On 06/04/2009, at 4:11 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hello Paul, Would you mind forwarding this my reply to your message to WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au please? Looks like my ISP Westnet is being blacklisted at the moment. Cheers, Ronni - This is the Postfix program at host hosted06.westnet.com.au. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The Postfix program wamug@wamug.org.au: host mail.wamug.org.au[203.33.71.50] said: 591 your host [203.10.1.221] is blacklisted by dnsbl.sorbs.net. Send your questions to blacklist-ad...@wamug.org.au (in reply to RCPT TO command) Reporting-MTA: dns; hosted06.westnet.com.au X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 328D7223C82 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; ro...@wn.com.au Arrival-Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:43:51 +0800 (WST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; wamug@wamug.org.au Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mail.wamug.org.au[203.33.71.50] said: 591 your host [203.10.1.221] is blacklisted by dnsbl.sorbs.net. Send your questions to blacklist-ad...@wamug.org.au (in reply to RCPT TO command) From: Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au Date: 6 April 2009 3:43:50 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Agriculture WA Explorer only? Hello David, I'm not sure if this will help you. Looks like you require to download and install Adobe SVG Plugin as this site uses SVG Map Format. A problem might arise though as Adobe has decided to discontinue support for Adobe SVG Viewer starting from January 1, 2008. They even plan to remove Adobe SVG Viewer from the Adobe.com download area on January 1, 2009, and redistribution by third parties is not allowed by the licence. http://www.svg.org/story/2006/11/10/174554/10 Adobe SVG Viewer Download Area: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/main.html Cheers, Ronni On 06/04/2009, at 3:06 PM, David Paul wrote: Hi Agriculture WA has a fantastic web site for farm owners that requires you to register before you can access it. http://spatial.agric.wa.gov.au/findyourfarm/ Unfortunately this appears not able to be done via Safari or Firefox and according to the Dept contact person requires Explorer for access - my reluctantly downloaded IE 5.2.3 refuses to allow registration as well. Any clues or work around that people may know of would be appreciated. Using MacOS 10.5.6 and Safari 3.2.1 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
