Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-17 Thread Neil Houghton

Hehe,

stir
 It's very good for a lot of things and very well priced. (about $79 from
 memory). 
Or only $49 if you are in the good ol' US-of-A ;o)
/stir



Cheers


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on 17/3/11 10:38 AM, Daniel Kerr at dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi David
 
 Have you looked at Bento?
 It's very good for a lot of things and very well priced. (about $79 from
 memory). 
 They've just released Bento 4 as well. You can download a trial version from
 Filemakers website. I use it for some basic databases and it's great.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
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 On 17/03/2011, at 10:15 AM, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
 functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
 Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
 maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks
 
 Cheers --
 
 David Noel
 2011 Mar 17
 
 ==
 
 On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:
 
 
 Ronni and Rod
 Thank you for your responses to my questions.
 The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat
 unstable so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little
 bit longer might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
 Thank you for advice.
 Merv
 
 
 Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far as
 we know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will not
 be supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those remaining
 PowerPC applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and AppleWorks are
 others which spring to mind immediately).
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-17 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 17/03/2011, at 12:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 Hi David,
 
 Like you I’ve been waiting for an alternative to AW’s Database. Tried Bento 
 before, but this version might just do it for us, perhaps?
 
 Make the most of your AppleWorks database and spreadsheet info with Bento
 http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/appleworks.html
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 

As Daniel says, Bento 4 has just been released, and seems to address one of its 
greatest weaknesses, which has always been printing. It now has support for 
mailing labels, decent form printing, and printer-friendly themes. Bento will 
happily import tab-delimited text files created by the AppleWorks database 
module, so now that printing has been addressed it seems it might be finally a 
decent replacement for AppleWorks (it certainly is in most other respects).


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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-17 Thread Merv Bond


Now all we need is a PC version of Bento.
I maintain a database for a not-for-profit organisation. The secretary 
is on a PC and I have installed AW6.2 on his machine. The updated file 
from my Mac is sent to him and he drops it on his machine and opens it 
with no trouble. So simple. If I move to Lion I will need to keep a 
family - at least two generations - of Macs to maintain access to all files.

Merv

On Fri18Mar2011 Fri18Mar8:07 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:



On 17/03/2011, at 12:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi David,

Like you I’ve been waiting for an alternative to AW’s Database. Tried Bento 
before, but this version might just do it for us, perhaps?

Make the most of your AppleWorks database and spreadsheet info with Bento
http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/appleworks.html

Cheers,
Ronni




As Daniel says, Bento 4 has just been released, and seems to address one of its 
greatest weaknesses, which has always been printing. It now has support for 
mailing labels, decent form printing, and printer-friendly themes. Bento will 
happily import tab-delimited text files created by the AppleWorks database 
module, so now that printing has been addressed it seems it might be finally a 
decent replacement for AppleWorks (it certainly is in most other respects).


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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Rod Lavington
Hi Merv,

I'm running CS2 on an Intel imac running 10.6.6.  Slow to start, but does
run.

Cheers

Rod
On Mar 16, 2011 1:46 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 CS2 runs under OS 10.4.11
 Will it run under OS 10.5? If not would installing Rosetta do the trick?
 What is the situation with OS 10.6?
 Advice appreciated.
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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Merv,

Adobe Creative Suite CS3 works in Snow Leopard.
CS2 is problematic even in Leopard.  
I would not recommend installing Rosetta unless upgrading to the current 
version is not an option.

This Adobe blog has a lot of information about Adobe and Snow Leopard 
compatibility:

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/category/snow-leopard

The only thing in cs3 that won't work is the acrobat distiller printer.
It's not really a problem though, see these two articles for details:

http://indesignsecrets.com/acrobats-adobe-pdf-printer-replaced-in-snow-leopard.php

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/509/cpsid_50981.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/03/2011, at 1:42 PM, Merv Bond wrote:

 
 CS2 runs under OS 10.4.11
 Will it run under OS 10.5? If not would installing Rosetta do the trick?
 What is the situation with OS 10.6?
 Advice appreciated.
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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Merv Bond


Ronni and Rod
Thank you for your responses to my questions.
The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat 
unstable so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a 
little bit longer might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.

Thank you for advice.
Merv


On Wed16Mar2011 Wed16Mar2:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Merv,

Adobe Creative Suite CS3 works in Snow Leopard.
CS2 is problematic even in Leopard.
I would not recommend installing Rosetta unless upgrading to the current 
version is not an option.

This Adobe blog has a lot of information about Adobe and Snow Leopard 
compatibility:

http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/category/snow-leopard

The only thing in cs3 that won't work is the acrobat distiller printer.
It's not really a problem though, see these two articles for details:

http://indesignsecrets.com/acrobats-adobe-pdf-printer-replaced-in-snow-leopard.php

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/509/cpsid_50981.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/03/2011, at 1:42 PM, Merv Bond wrote:



CS2 runs under OS 10.4.11
Will it run under OS 10.5? If not would installing Rosetta do the trick?
What is the situation with OS 10.6?
Advice appreciated.
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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:

 
 Ronni and Rod
 Thank you for your responses to my questions.
 The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat unstable 
 so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little bit longer 
 might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
 Thank you for advice.
 Merv
 

Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far as we 
know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will not be 
supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those remaining PowerPC 
applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and AppleWorks are others which 
spring to mind immediately).

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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread David Noel

Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks

Cheers --

David Noel
2011 Mar 17

==

On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:


 On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:


 Ronni and Rod
 Thank you for your responses to my questions.
 The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat unstable 
 so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little bit longer 
 might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
 Thank you for advice.
 Merv


 Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far as 
 we know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will not 
 be supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those remaining 
 PowerPC applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and AppleWorks are 
 others which spring to mind immediately).

 Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.




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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi David

Have you looked at Bento?
It's very good for a lot of things and very well priced. (about $79 from 
memory). 
They've just released Bento 4 as well. You can download a trial version from 
Filemakers website. I use it for some basic databases and it's great. 

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 17/03/2011, at 10:15 AM, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:

 
 Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
 functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
 Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
 maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks
 
 Cheers --
 
 David Noel
 2011 Mar 17
 
 ==
 
 On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:
 
 
 Ronni and Rod
 Thank you for your responses to my questions.
 The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat 
 unstable so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little 
 bit longer might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
 Thank you for advice.
 Merv
 
 
 Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far as 
 we know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will not 
 be supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those remaining 
 PowerPC applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and AppleWorks are 
 others which spring to mind immediately).
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Rod Lavington
You could try Bento http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento

Its about $80, and I think you can also download a 30 day trial too.

Cheers

Rod

On 17/03/2011 10:19 AM, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:


Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks

Cheers --

David Noel
2011 Mar 17

==


On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:


 On 16/03/2011, at...



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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread David Noel

-- Thanks a lot, Daniel. I had thought about Bento before, but was
uncertain whether it would handle Chinese characters. It'd be be good
if it could input and convert Appleworks database files, I think I
tried this a while back, and it wouldn't. But I'll download the trial
version and see how that behaves for me.

Cheers --

David / Mar 7

=

On 17 March 2011 10:38, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi David

 Have you looked at Bento?
 It's very good for a lot of things and very well priced. (about $79 from 
 memory).
 They've just released Bento 4 as well. You can download a trial version from 
 Filemakers website. I use it for some basic databases and it's great.

 Kind regards
 Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone

 ---
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 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email:  dan...@macwizardry.com.au
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 On 17/03/2011, at 10:15 AM, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:


 Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
 functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
 Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
 maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks

 Cheers --

 David Noel
 2011 Mar 17

 ==

 On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:


 On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:


 Ronni and Rod
 Thank you for your responses to my questions.
 The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat 
 unstable so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little 
 bit longer might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
 Thank you for advice.
 Merv


 Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far 
 as we know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will 
 not be supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those 
 remaining PowerPC applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and 
 AppleWorks are others which spring to mind immediately).

 Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.




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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Merv Bond


Peter
Thank you for that alert. Waiting for Adobe to catch up to Lion could 
make the wait a long one.

Merv

On Thu17Mar2011 Thu17Mar8:28 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:



On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:



Ronni and Rod
Thank you for your responses to my questions.
The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat unstable 
so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little bit longer 
might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
Thank you for advice.
Merv



Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far as we 
know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will not be 
supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those remaining PowerPC 
applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and AppleWorks are others which 
spring to mind immediately).

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.




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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi David,

Like you I’ve been waiting for an alternative to AW’s Database. Tried Bento 
before, but this version might just do it for us, perhaps?

Make the most of your AppleWorks database and spreadsheet info with Bento
http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/appleworks.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 17/03/2011, at 10:45 AM, David Noel wrote:

 
 -- Thanks a lot, Daniel. I had thought about Bento before, but was
 uncertain whether it would handle Chinese characters. It'd be be good
 if it could input and convert Appleworks database files, I think I
 tried this a while back, and it wouldn't. But I'll download the trial
 version and see how that behaves for me.
 
 Cheers --
 
 David / Mar 7
 
 =
 
 On 17 March 2011 10:38, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi David
 
 Have you looked at Bento?
 It's very good for a lot of things and very well priced. (about $79 from 
 memory).
 They've just released Bento 4 as well. You can download a trial version from 
 Filemakers website. I use it for some basic databases and it's great.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email:  dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web:http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For Everything Macintosh**
 
 On 17/03/2011, at 10:15 AM, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
 functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
 Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
 maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks
 
 Cheers --
 
 David Noel
 2011 Mar 17
 
 ==
 
 On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:
 
 
 Ronni and Rod
 Thank you for your responses to my questions.
 The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat 
 unstable so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little 
 bit longer might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
 Thank you for advice.
 Merv
 
 
 Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far 
 as we know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will 
 not be supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those 
 remaining PowerPC applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and 
 AppleWorks are others which spring to mind immediately).
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 




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Re: Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-16 Thread Merv Bond


Noel
Would be pleased to hear how your experiment works out with importing 
AppleWorks data base into Bento. By saving an AppleWorks data base in 
ASCII I was able to import it into Access. Haven't explored Bento.

Hope to hear some good news.
Merv

On Thu17Mar2011 Thu17Mar10:45 AM, David Noel wrote:


-- Thanks a lot, Daniel. I had thought about Bento before, but was
uncertain whether it would handle Chinese characters. It'd be be good
if it could input and convert Appleworks database files, I think I
tried this a while back, and it wouldn't. But I'll download the trial
version and see how that behaves for me.

Cheers --

David / Mar 7

=

On 17 March 2011 10:38, Daniel Kerrdan...@macwizardry.com.au  wrote:


Hi David

Have you looked at Bento?
It's very good for a lot of things and very well priced. (about $79 from 
memory).
They've just released Bento 4 as well. You can download a trial version from 
Filemakers website. I use it for some basic databases and it's great.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone

---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email:  dan...@macwizardry.com.au
Web:http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For Everything Macintosh**

On 17/03/2011, at 10:15 AM, David Noellis...@aoi.com.au  wrote:



Sigh. So there is still nothing out there which can replace the
functionality of Appleworks database, and this will disappear with
Lion? You'd think someone would try to fill this gap in the market,
maybe Apple themselves with a module of iWorks

Cheers --

David Noel
2011 Mar 17

==

On 17 March 2011 08:28, Peter Hinchliffehinch...@multiline.com.au  wrote:



On 16/03/2011, at 4:22 PM, Merv Bond wrote:



Ronni and Rod
Thank you for your responses to my questions.
The relationship between CS and Snow Leopard appears to be somewhat unstable 
so, given the cost of CS, staying with OS 4 and CS2 for a little bit longer 
might be the wisest option. See what OS7 produces.
Thank you for advice.
Merv



Just be aware that it will not run under Lion when it is released (as far as we 
know at the moment). The current knowledge of Lion says that it will not be 
supporting Rosetta, so we will have to say goodbye to those remaining PowerPC 
applications some of us still rely on (OmniPage and AppleWorks are others which 
spring to mind immediately).

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Creative Suite 2 (CS2)

2011-03-15 Thread Merv Bond


CS2 runs under OS 10.4.11
Will it run under OS 10.5? If not would installing Rosetta do the trick?
What is the situation with OS 10.6?
Advice appreciated.
Merv
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