Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
This is an interesting discussion! I am experiencing the same thing with text messages on my Telstra mobile phone. Perhaps Mumbai or Towoomba is the answer after all! Barb On 17/12/09 6:37 AM, Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Geoffrey and Barbara Maidment Idleyld Farm 477 Cowaramup Bay Road Cowaramup 6284 Western Australia ph/fx +61 8 9755 5265 e-mail maidmen...@bigpond.com Now on Skype at maidmentgb! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Hi People, It seems thisTime Stamp error is only happening in Entourage, not in Apple Mail? If so check your prefs in Entourage they are possibly incorrect. Check what Time Zone is set for New Events and email. Cheers, Ronni On 17/12/2009, at 4:13 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment wrote: This is an interesting discussion! I am experiencing the same thing with text messages on my Telstra mobile phone. Perhaps Mumbai or Towoomba is the answer after all! Barb On 17/12/09 6:37 AM, Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
I use Entourage and all the settings are correct...time zone, etc. but I still occasionally have the same problem. I still reckon it's Mumbai or Toowoomba! Barb On 17/12/09 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi People, It seems thisTime Stamp error is only happening in Entourage, not in Apple Mail? If so check your prefs in Entourage they are possibly incorrect. Check what Time Zone is set for New Events and email. Cheers, Ronni On 17/12/2009, at 4:13 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment wrote: This is an interesting discussion! I am experiencing the same thing with text messages on my Telstra mobile phone. Perhaps Mumbai or Towoomba is the answer after all! Barb On 17/12/09 6:37 AM, Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Geoffrey and Barbara Maidment Idleyld Farm 477 Cowaramup Bay Road Cowaramup 6284 Western Australia ph/fx +61 8 9755 5265 e-mail maidmen...@bigpond.com Now on Skype at maidmentgb! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Hi I had this problem and now I only use Apple Mail and I can still send\receive e-mail etc from my very dear infidel friends of mind, furthermore, the same can be said of iWorks over MS Office iWorks is far better to use. Your Apple Bore Kim iMac 24” Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo iPhone 3GS 32GB iPhone 3G 16GB iTouch 16GB OS X Snow Leopard On 17/12/2009, at 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi People, It seems thisTime Stamp error is only happening in Entourage, not in Apple Mail? If so check your prefs in Entourage they are possibly incorrect. Check what Time Zone is set for New Events and email. Cheers, Ronni On 17/12/2009, at 4:13 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment wrote: This is an interesting discussion! I am experiencing the same thing with text messages on my Telstra mobile phone. Perhaps Mumbai or Towoomba is the answer after all! Barb On 17/12/09 6:37 AM, Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Greetings! I occasionally get emails (gmail) that are stamped 3 hours ahead. Cheers, Joe On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment maidmen...@bigpond.com wrote: I use Entourage and all the settings are correct...time zone, etc. but I still occasionally have the same problem. I still reckon it's Mumbai or Toowoomba! Barb On 17/12/09 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi People, It seems thisTime Stamp error is only happening in Entourage, not in Apple Mail? If so check your prefs in Entourage they are possibly incorrect. Check what Time Zone is set for New Events and email. Cheers, Ronni On 17/12/2009, at 4:13 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment wrote: This is an interesting discussion! I am experiencing the same thing with text messages on my Telstra mobile phone. Perhaps Mumbai or Towoomba is the answer after all! Barb On 17/12/09 6:37 AM, Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Geoffrey and Barbara Maidment Idleyld Farm 477 Cowaramup Bay Road Cowaramup 6284 Western Australia ph/fx +61 8 9755 5265 e-mail maidmen...@bigpond.com Now on Skype at maidmentgb! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Hi Barb, Entourage is known for this time stamp problem. Could you just check this please? Open System Preferences, Date Time Preferences. First ensure that the correct time zone is selected, and then make sure that the correct date and time are entered. Then, close System Preferences, and re-launch Entourage (quit and re-launch if it was already open). Go to Entourage Preferences. Under General Preferences, click Calendar. Select the proper Default time zone for new events from the menu, and click OK. The problem has to be caused by the Time not being set correctly on one of these: 1. The Mail Server that sent the message 2. The Mail server that received the message or 3. The Time is set correctly but an incorrect Time Zone has been selected. I had this issue with Bob Howells email quite some time back, we eventually solved the Time Stamp problem ... it was his ISP's Mail Server was using an incorrect time. Cheers, Ronni On 17/12/2009, at 4:49 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment wrote: I use Entourage and all the settings are correct...time zone, etc. but I still occasionally have the same problem. I still reckon it's Mumbai or Toowoomba! Barb On 17/12/09 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi People, It seems thisTime Stamp error is only happening in Entourage, not in Apple Mail? If so check your prefs in Entourage they are possibly incorrect. Check what Time Zone is set for New Events and email. Cheers, Ronni On 17/12/2009, at 4:13 PM, Geoffrey Barbara Maidment wrote: This is an interesting discussion! I am experiencing the same thing with text messages on my Telstra mobile phone. Perhaps Mumbai or Towoomba is the answer after all! Barb On 17/12/09 6:37 AM, Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Geoffrey and Barbara Maidment Idleyld Farm 477 Cowaramup Bay Road Cowaramup 6284 Western Australia ph/fx +61 8 9755 5265 e-mail maidmen...@bigpond.com Now on Skype at maidmentgb! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Emails show time 3hrs behind
Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
I don't use Entourage, but maybe check it for a time zone setting. http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/time.html Entourage - General Preferences. Under the Calendar tab, choose the correct time zone. Regards, Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi Glen Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Regards Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au Denise, Sounds like the email is being routed through a mail server based in Melbourne/Sydney (3 hrs ahead of WA), and the mail is picking up a timestamp at that point. Glenn Nicholas OM4 :: 2009/12/17 Denise Williams chri...@iinet.net.au: Hi All I'm using Entourage for my emails and I've been told by a recipient that the time I sent an email is 3 hours BEFORE. Ie I sent an email this morning at 8am and he said it showed as sent at 5am. But his computer showed it being received at 8am so his clock is right. My iMac shows the correct time in my top right hand panel so is there another clock within Entourage? Thanks for any help Denise Williams PH 9447 3468 MOB 0417 184592 chri...@iinet.net.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Denise Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Eudora shows the sent time and date as: Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:37:22 +1100 which from what you say is correct. Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: k...@kgweb.org.au web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
On 17/12/2009, at 11:22 AM, Kaye and Geoff wrote: Denise Yes I was thinking the same thing except that I'd say it's going via India or somewhere that is BEHIND Perth time by 3 hrs - Our East is 3 hrs ahead so it would have said 11am. Just a bit confusing for my recipients. BTW what time does it say this email is being sent to you? My clock now says 9.40am. Eudora shows the sent time and date as: Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:37:22 +1100 which from what you say is correct. Shouldn't it be +0800 (WST) not +1100 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Emails show time 3hrs behind
Ronni and Denise Shouldn't it be +0800 (WST) not +1100 Yes, so it should, I did not pay enough attention to that bit. Geoff -- Kaye Stott and Geoff Prince email: k...@kgweb.org.au web: http://www.kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
