Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-29 Thread Dave Choy

Wow,

It looks like people these days really don't care for Christmas spirit, 
eh? Glad to see you didn't lose your precious, Phil! My friend got his 
laptop, mobile phone and wallet stolen on christmas eve while he was 
sleeping. Eerily similar to Phil's story except they came in through 
the window. Thing is there were THREE people in the house and they all 
slept through it!


I guess you really need good security these days.

As for sleeping with your laptop, I am probably as geeky as the rest of 
you guys and gals, but that (for me) is just that little bit too far! 
My solution is to just use a kensington security cable on my powerbook, 
and attach it to something big, in my case the cable hole in my office 
table. I'm pretty sure they'll at least need to make some noise to get 
it out of there! Also if I slept with my pbook, I could well end up 
rolling onto it, as I have done with countless walkmans and other 
devices in the past and end up wrecking the display or something.


While I like security, I don't know whether I'd go the whole hog with 
security grills etc. I am reminded of the vietnamese family recently 
who got burnt alive in their home. Their placed had security grills 
over all the windows so they couldn't get out through them and no one 
could save them either! All your really need is a good alarm with 
motion sensors and some pepper spray handy. The alarm will scare off 
90% of burglars, the other 10% will try anyway regardless of your 
security measures. I've been robbed in a fully secured place - they 
just came through the roof instead!



Dave


On 29/12/2003, at 8:05 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:



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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:03:35 +0800
From: Phillip McGree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: House burglary tonight

Yup, I'll be faxing all the pawnbroker shops in the next few days.  
And here I was thinking that I would never use the fax function in 
10.3!  And I'll be getting some cops that I know socially to keep an 
eye on recovered goods records.


My emptied wallet was found around the corner from here this morning.  
Damn, that was my last $100 so now I'm left with $3.35 to my name and 
a bloody empty stomach! These kids are bloody experienced, even the 
hidden compartments that nosey girlfriends, etc, normally don't find 
had been gone through.


Rather miffed about losing my camera though... now I can't take any 
photos of the ripper grazes that I've got on my right knee and hand 
from when I fell over whilst chasing the car down the road.


Moral of the story...   don't leave your PowerBook on your desk at 
night, always take it to bed with you!  My geekiness/nerdiness paid 
off, I always take my PowerBook to bed at night (the cat to, but he 
always runs away as soon as he can).  :-)


I've been wondering all day if these kids will ever come back now that 
they have seen the masses of Mac stuff that I have in this house.  But 
then again...  I'm 6 foot tall, 118kg...  big ugly fat bastard, 
particularly unattractive when running across the front yard at 3:30am 
in nothing but old underpants.  Being chased by this huge pissed off 
pale bloke who's bare skin hasn't seen sunshine in many years must 
have had them at least a tad concerned.


Would have been a classic for Funniest Home Videos...  if I had the 
whole iSight thing set up I would still have lost my camera, but could 
have won a new replacement one with the video.



Phil



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Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they 
were to success when they gave up.- Thomas A. Edison




Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-29 Thread Bob Howells
On 29/12/03 8:07 AM, Dave Choy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow,
 While I like security, I don't know whether I'd go the whole hog with
 security grills etc. I am reminded of the vietnamese family recently
 who got burnt alive in their home. Their placed had security grills
 over all the windows

Which is a particularly dangerous situation.

A better proposition from a Safety point of view is to place
Security Grills only where Fly Wire would otherwise be placed.
That should leave you with some glass to break for an emergency exit .

And by the way, 
when you decide to Instal grills make sure that  you have
Them  on each side of your house.
That is, you need at least one grill on each of the North, South East  West
sides.

For best ventilation you always need an outlet on the opposite side of the
house to where the Inlet is

So if the natural breeze is from the East, to get the best effect make sure
you also open a window on the West side of the house.

This might seem to be a natural action but I know there are a lot of us that
forget  to open that other window.

Cheers, and keep cool

Bob



Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-29 Thread Murdoch Allen


On 28 Dec 2003, at 5:19 AM, Phillip McGree wrote:


My house got burgled tonight.



On 28 Dec 2003, at 5:19 AM, Phillip McGree wrote:


My house got burgled tonight.


Okay moral of the story people #1 lock your doors #2 dont chase them
Phill be lucky they ran I have heard of lots of occassions were they 
havent and the homeowner is on their way to hospital after the incedent
AND last but not least without sounding condescending  sell all them 
motorbikes and get insurance for the house, YES i agree its bullshit 
but in these times we live in where the bad guy can sue you for 
injuries sustained while robbing your house is it worth it







OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-28 Thread Phillip McGree
My house got burgled tonight.

I fell asleep really early tonight, whilst laying on my bed watching tv.  I 
didn't mean to doze off so early, and so hadn't locked the front door.

I woke up at about 3:30am and noticed that there was someone in my bedroom (I 
live alone).  In that first few seconds I have recognised that there were two 
unfamiliar people in front of me, looking as startled as I was.

I look to my left, where my Apple PowerBook G4 laptop normally is, and notice 
that it's gone.  Alarm sets in as I realise that these people in front of me 
are stealing from me, and have got my PowerBook.

I jump up and give chase.  The people run off and I pursue them across the 
front yard.  They run to an early model Mitsubishi Magna, which is parked out 
the front.  The driver's window is down and I race towards it, having decided 
that the only way I was going to stop this lot is to stop the car from taking 
off. 

It was like in a movie - I missed by split seconds.  My hand was centimetres 
away from reaching into the car before it took off.  Its headlights were off, 
and I wasn't able to see the licence plate.  

It turns out that they have taken my wallet, which was in my shorts on the 
floor.  They have gone through my desk drawer and taken the $100 note that was 
there.  They have also stolen my Canon G2 digital camera.  They were obviously 
working their way through the house when I have woken up and disturbed them.  
If I had have woken up a few seconds earlier then I could have prevented them 
from taking anything.  If I had not have woken up at all then they could have 
cleaned out the entire house.

I went for a ride on my motorbike to see if I could get lucky and find anything 
of mine that had been thrown from the car.  That PowerBook is worth money, and 
although it's backed up fairly regularly, there's always daily email that I 
can't afford to lose.  And I just can't afford the financial loss (ie it's not 
insured).

I locked up the house and rode a lap of the area on the bike and didn't find 
anything so returned home to survey what was taken.  I noticed that the power 
supply for the PowerBook was still there, but the cable was stretched out to 
where it doesn't normally go.  Then I see that my PowerBook is in the corner. 
Turns out that they were in the process of taking it when I woke up, so that 
was a huge relief.  Being a metal casing, the police should be able to get 
fingerprints from whoever moved it.  Another few seconds and I would have lost 
it.  I'm pissed off that I have lost my digital camera, my wallet and some 
money, but the PowerBook was the most crucial and valuable thing.

These people were aboriginal, about late teens.  The Mitsubishi Magna was in 
excellent condition, which leads me to believe that it's stolen.  They have 
obviously driven around looking for somewhere to break into, tried my screen 
door, and come inside.  Not really the sort of thing that one expects to wake 
up to, and certainly reinforces the harsh reality of home security.


Phil
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Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-28 Thread Kelly Duffy
Hi Phil,

I don't know if this is any help, maybe, maybe not,
but go around to the hock shops and describe your
camera. Chances are new digi-cams don't come in too
often, and maybe there will still be images on the
camera's memory that can ID it to you and that they
didn't think to delete. If its worth money a hock
shop's most likely the only place they can get rid of
it, its not something the average criminals keep as a
souvenir. When my car was stolen the child seat was
taken when the car was abandoned and I was told to
check out the hock shops for it. No luck, but that was
hardly surprising given it was worth bugger all.

Best of luck. A friend of mine also had his wallet and
keys stolen last night, from the house of one of his
friends.

Hope today gets better for you.

Kind regards,
Kelly

 --- Phillip McGree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My
house got burgled tonight.
 
 I fell asleep really early tonight, whilst laying on
 my bed watching tv.  I didn't mean to doze off so
 early, and so hadn't locked the front door.
 
 I woke up at about 3:30am and noticed that there was
 someone in my bedroom (I live alone).  In that first
 few seconds I have recognised that there were two
 unfamiliar people in front of me, looking as
 startled as I was.
 
 I look to my left, where my Apple PowerBook G4
 laptop normally is, and notice that it's gone. 
 Alarm sets in as I realise that these people in
 front of me are stealing from me, and have got my
 PowerBook.
 
 I jump up and give chase.  The people run off and I
 pursue them across the front yard.  They run to an
 early model Mitsubishi Magna, which is parked out
 the front.  The driver's window is down and I race
 towards it, having decided that the only way I was
 going to stop this lot is to stop the car from
 taking off. 
 
 It was like in a movie - I missed by split seconds. 
 My hand was centimetres away from reaching into the
 car before it took off.  Its headlights were off,
 and I wasn't able to see the licence plate.  
 
 It turns out that they have taken my wallet, which
 was in my shorts on the floor.  They have gone
 through my desk drawer and taken the $100 note that
 was there.  They have also stolen my Canon G2
 digital camera.  They were obviously working their
 way through the house when I have woken up and
 disturbed them.  If I had have woken up a few
 seconds earlier then I could have prevented them
 from taking anything.  If I had not have woken up at
 all then they could have cleaned out the entire
 house.
 
 I went for a ride on my motorbike to see if I could
 get lucky and find anything of mine that had been
 thrown from the car.  That PowerBook is worth money,
 and although it's backed up fairly regularly,
 there's always daily email that I can't afford to
 lose.  And I just can't afford the financial loss
 (ie it's not insured).
 
 I locked up the house and rode a lap of the area on
 the bike and didn't find anything so returned home
 to survey what was taken.  I noticed that the power
 supply for the PowerBook was still there, but the
 cable was stretched out to where it doesn't normally
 go.  Then I see that my PowerBook is in the corner.
 Turns out that they were in the process of taking it
 when I woke up, so that was a huge relief.  Being a
 metal casing, the police should be able to get
 fingerprints from whoever moved it.  Another few
 seconds and I would have lost it.  I'm pissed off
 that I have lost my digital camera, my wallet and
 some money, but the PowerBook was the most crucial
 and valuable thing.
 
 These people were aboriginal, about late teens.  The
 Mitsubishi Magna was in excellent condition, which
 leads me to believe that it's stolen.  They have
 obviously driven around looking for somewhere to
 break into, tried my screen door, and come inside. 
 Not really the sort of thing that one expects to
 wake up to, and certainly reinforces the harsh
 reality of home security.
 
 
 Phil
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Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-28 Thread Paul Kitchener
Hi Phil,

I don't know if this is any help, maybe, maybe not,
but go around to the hock shops and describe your
camera. Chances are new digi-cams don't come in too
often, and maybe there will still be images on the
camera's memory that can ID it to you and that they
didn't think to delete. If its worth money a hock
shop's most likely the only place they can get rid of
it, its not something the average criminals keep as a
souvenir. When my car was stolen the child seat was
taken when the car was abandoned and I was told to
check out the hock shops for it. No luck, but that was
hardly surprising given it was worth bugger all.

Best of luck. A friend of mine also had his wallet and
keys stolen last night, from the house of one of his
friends.

Hope today gets better for you.

Kind regards,
Kelly

Hello

I can concur that checking hock shops is important.

My friend was burgled in similar circumstances and went down to the
'cashies' nearby and almost everything was there, this led not only
to an arrest but the 'perp' was found with my friends intact wallet
containning almost all the $100 or so cash.

Good Luck
Paul



Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-28 Thread Phillip McGree
Yup, I'll be faxing all the pawnbroker shops in the next few days.  And here I 
was thinking that I would never use the fax function in 10.3!  And I'll be 
getting some cops that I know socially to keep an eye on recovered goods 
records.

My emptied wallet was found around the corner from here this morning.  Damn, 
that was my last $100 so now I'm left with $3.35 to my name and a bloody empty 
stomach! These kids are bloody experienced, even the hidden compartments that 
nosey girlfriends, etc, normally don't find had been gone through.   

Rather miffed about losing my camera though... now I can't take any photos of 
the ripper grazes that I've got on my right knee and hand from when I fell over 
whilst chasing the car down the road. 

Moral of the story...   don't leave your PowerBook on your desk at night, 
always take it to bed with you!  My geekiness/nerdiness paid off, I always take 
my PowerBook to bed at night (the cat to, but he always runs away as soon as he 
can).  :-)

I've been wondering all day if these kids will ever come back now that they 
have seen the masses of Mac stuff that I have in this house.  But then again... 
 I'm 6 foot tall, 118kg...  big ugly fat bastard, particularly unattractive 
when running across the front yard at 3:30am in nothing but old underpants.  
Being chased by this huge pissed off pale bloke who's bare skin hasn't seen 
sunshine in many years must have had them at least a tad concerned.

Would have been a classic for Funniest Home Videos...  if I had the whole 
iSight thing set up I would still have lost my camera, but could have won a new 
replacement one with the video.


Phil



Hi Phil,

I don't know if this is any help, maybe, maybe not,
but go around to the hock shops and describe your
camera. Chances are new digi-cams don't come in too
often, and maybe there will still be images on the
camera's memory that can ID it to you and that they
didn't think to delete. If its worth money a hock
shop's most likely the only place they can get rid of
it, its not something the average criminals keep as a
souvenir. When my car was stolen the child seat was
taken when the car was abandoned and I was told to
check out the hock shops for it. No luck, but that was
hardly surprising given it was worth bugger all.

Best of luck. A friend of mine also had his wallet and
keys stolen last night, from the house of one of his
friends.

Hope today gets better for you.

-- 

--
Sent from the Apple PowerBook G4 of:
Phillip McGree  Web:
http://www.phil.net.au
Perth, Western Australiahttp://www.perthcomedy.com
Mobile Phone: 0418 922 500  
Macs for sale - new and secondhand  http://www.themacshack.com.au


Disclaimer:  
This transmission is intended for people that have functioning eyesight and 
literacy.  If you have no eyesight, or can't read, please disregard this email. 
 Thank you.


Re: OT: House burglary tonight

2003-12-28 Thread Malcolm J McCallum
Must admit my mind was running riot,  imagining you chasing those 
little bastards, some time ago I had a 2 litre Jensen open sports car 
and during the night the alarm went off. I was out of bed and out to 
the car in a flash but was still too late.:-( Probably just as well as 
I sleep in the birthday suit.

Mac



Re: OT: House burglary tonight (and iSight Virtual Security Service)

2003-12-28 Thread Reg Whitely


On 28/12/2003, at 11:03 AM, Phillip McGree wrote:
I've been wondering all day if these kids will ever come back now that 
they have seen the masses of Mac stuff that I have in this house.  But 
then again...  I'm 6 foot tall, 118kg...  big ugly fat bastard, 
particularly unattractive when running across the front yard at 3:30am 
in nothing but old underpants.  Being chased by this huge pissed off 
pale bloke who's bare skin hasn't seen sunshine in many years must 
have had them at least a tad concerned.


Would have been a classic for Funniest Home Videos...  if I had the 
whole iSight thing set up I would still have lost my camera, but could 
have won a new replacement one with the video.



Phil


So it's a Merry Christmas to you from your unexpected visitors Phil, 
and from all your friends up here in sunny Geraldton.


I'm glad they didn't take your PowerBook, especially considering your 
previous PowerBook robbery! I read some time ago of a lady in the USA 
who used Timbuctoo remote software to track down an iMac thief. She 
waited until the robbers went on line, then somehow set it to wipe the 
hard drive when they next started it up. In the meantime her ISP 
company helped trace the login phone call and the iMac was retrieved. 
The police couldn't charge them with theft as they claimed they had 
bought it from someone, so they were charged with receiving stolen 
property and received a slap on the wrist.


Several years ago, a week before Christmas, Elaine and I were woken 
with a torch being shone through our bedroom window. It wasn't the kids 
and wasn't the police so the next morning we rang up the security 
screen company and had full security screens and triple lock doors 
fitted. It's a bit like living in a cage now but at least we can open 
the doors and windows and let the Geraldton sea breeze blow through, 
without it blowing in any strangers. We do need to remember to lock the 
doors though.


Maybe you could set up a Mac with an iSight and monitor the house. Hey, 
you could set it up with iChat and we could all watch for weckless 
wobbers - just think, the WAMUG Virtual Security Service - You sleep, 
we peep.