Re: Opening winmail.dat
Hi On 18/02/2015, at 3:19 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote: I have been sent by email a document which was saved on a Windows computer in .doc and in .docx formats. It is received on my computer as winmail.dat TNEF enough will not open the attachment. Any suggestions? It is a Microsoft-only format and as you suggest is due to the sending mail program being configured badly. A Google search for winmail.dat will provide several links which explain what it is and why you get it. Try https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-winmaildat-attachment which has a link to a Microsoft page covering the issue and what the sender can do about it. Regards Geoff --- Kaye and Geoff k...@kgweb.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Opening winmail.dat
Ensure you have the latest version of TNEF Enough installed also. Latest version is 3.2.1. You can also try a few others, one being Letter Opener Pro which is also quite good. I have a few clients that use this. You can download them from here - http://www.macupdate.com/find/mac/tnef It's the preferences generally in the email, it's the program used (Outlook) and/or Exchange servers sometimes and/or Rich formatting. (Here's Microsoft's spiel about it,… - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278061?wa=wsignin1.0 I refer to a good rant from Peter Hinchliffe (as I'm sure he won't mind me borrowing it.,… /quote As Ronni says, TNEF's Enough is the solution. I must point out, however, that in no way is this Apple's fault. The same problem would occur for anyone not using Microsoft Outlook as their email client. winmail.dat files can only be created and and read by this horrible software. The fault lies entirely in Microsoft's corner. Windows users who prefer to use Thunderbird or similar would encounter the same problem. The problem with most Windows users, in my experience, is that they only ever use the software that comes with the computer, which invariably means Microsoft Office, which gets used for everything they do. This creates the assumption that their experience represents the normal way for computers to work, which is usually far from the truth, and any variances from what they expect becomes the fault of everyone else. winmail.dat files are definitely a product of one program - Microsoft Outlook - and as such are a completely proprietary format, but are regarded as an industry standard, along with the other Office formats. I am always amused when I hear people talk of Apple's walled garden approach to their products. There is no higher walled garden than that created by Microsoft and their products. Fortunately, with growing popularity of iOS-based products from Apple, more and more people are beginning to realise this. Rant over... Peter Hinchliffe /end quote Hope that helps. Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 6 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 18/02/2015, at 3:54 PM, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote: Could the sender save the (text?) file in .rtf? Or, if you don't need to amend it, in .pdf? David. On 18 February 2015 at 15:39, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: Thanks David, Texedit, unlike TNEF, opened the attachment but it is not in any language I can read. I fave Word on my computer. It will not open winmail.dat The sender has saved the document in Word as .doc I suspect the problem is in the preferences in the email program she is using. She assures me that she is using .doc and .docx but I think that is at the Word stage and she has not looked at preferences in Outlook on her Windows computer. Cheers, Michael. On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:32 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote: Hi Michael -- TextEdit should open .docx and .doc formats. Hope this helps David Noel On 18 February 2015 at 15:19, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: I have been sent by email a document which was saved on a Windows computer in .doc and in .docx formats. It is received on my computer as winmail.dat TNEF enough will not open the attachment. Any suggestions? Thank you Michael Hawkins OS 10.10.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh
Re: Opening winmail.dat
Could the sender save the (text?) file in .rtf? Or, if you don't need to amend it, in .pdf? David. On 18 February 2015 at 15:39, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: Thanks David, Texedit, unlike TNEF, opened the attachment but it is not in any language I can read. I fave Word on my computer. It will not open winmail.dat The sender has saved the document in Word as .doc I suspect the problem is in the preferences in the email program she is using. She assures me that she is using .doc and .docx but I think that is at the Word stage and she has not looked at preferences in Outlook on her Windows computer. Cheers, Michael. On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:32 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote: Hi Michael -- TextEdit should open .docx and .doc formats. Hope this helps David Noel On 18 February 2015 at 15:19, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: I have been sent by email a document which was saved on a Windows computer in .doc and in .docx formats. It is received on my computer as winmail.dat TNEF enough will not open the attachment. Any suggestions? Thank you Michael Hawkins OS 10.10.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Opening winmail.dat
Hi Michael -- TextEdit should open .docx and .doc formats. Hope this helps David Noel On 18 February 2015 at 15:19, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: I have been sent by email a document which was saved on a Windows computer in .doc and in .docx formats. It is received on my computer as winmail.dat TNEF enough will not open the attachment. Any suggestions? Thank you Michael Hawkins OS 10.10.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Opening winmail.dat
Thanks David, Texedit, unlike TNEF, opened the attachment but it is not in any language I can read. I fave Word on my computer. It will not open winmail.dat The sender has saved the document in Word as .doc I suspect the problem is in the preferences in the email program she is using. She assures me that she is using .doc and .docx but I think that is at the Word stage and she has not looked at preferences in Outlook on her Windows computer. Cheers, Michael. On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:32 pm, David Noel lis...@aoi.com.au wrote: Hi Michael -- TextEdit should open .docx and .doc formats. Hope this helps David Noel On 18 February 2015 at 15:19, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote: I have been sent by email a document which was saved on a Windows computer in .doc and in .docx formats. It is received on my computer as winmail.dat TNEF enough will not open the attachment. Any suggestions? Thank you Michael Hawkins OS 10.10.2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
