RE: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Hugh Griffiths]

I will try and upgrade my ipad to 4.3 tonight and let the list know

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of cm
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:30 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

Opps. Sorry Mart, but I won't be in a position to test for some time yet. My 
iPad is the 3G model and has its own GPS. So I am guessing the position will 
come from there whether or not the iPhone provides it.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-15, at 14:01, cm wrote:


Hi Mart,

It would be interesting to know if GPS is routed from an iPhone to a tethered 
iPad. II will test as soon as I am in a position to do so -- probably tonight. 
Or some other member may be in a position to see now.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-03-15, at 09:38, Martin Hill wrote:


You are quite right Carlo, looks like a new feature of iOS 4.3 on the iPad is 
that it now supports Bluetooth tethering from older iPhones like the 3GS and 
even the 3G:

Hugh, here are some nice detailed instructions how to do it here in Australia 
with Optus:

http://swangle.blogspot.com/2011/03/bluetooth-tether-ipad-to-iphone-in-ios.html

Carlo, have you noticed however whether the GPS location info from the iPhone 
3GS is routed through to the iPad as well?

-Mar

On 15/03/2011, at 7:59 AM, cm wrote:


Hi Mart,

I have successfully had my iPad connected to a hot spot set up on my iPhone 3GS 
running iOS 4.3. From memory I used a bluetooth connection.

Incidentally, in my opinion jailbreaking is not a good idea unless you do it 
for second phone that you don't rely on.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-15, at 07:38, Martin Hill wrote:


Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 3GS 
is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with iOS 4.3) 
neither of which works with an iPad.

You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have no 
idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation.

-Mart

Sent from my iPhone

On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths 
mailto:hgriffi...@lgc.com>> wrote:
So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to connect 
my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au<mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au> 
[mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Martin Hill
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 when 
connected to the phone's personal hotspot.

http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way

This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
iPad.

In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still go 
for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.

-Mart

On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:



Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,

and thanks Pedro, too.

Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford 
mailto:rbelf...@highway1.com.au>> wrote:
Note.
You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
have a SIM card in it.
The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.

r

On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:



Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/

cheers

Pedro

On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:



Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.

C

On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:



Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.

The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and topographical 
maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is 

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[cm]

Opps. Sorry Mart, but I won't be in a position to test for some time yet. My 
iPad is the 3G model and has its own GPS. So I am guessing the position will 
come from there whether or not the iPhone provides it.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-15, at 14:01, cm wrote:

> Hi Mart,
> 
> It would be interesting to know if GPS is routed from an iPhone to a tethered 
> iPad. II will test as soon as I am in a position to do so -- probably 
> tonight. Or some other member may be in a position to see now.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 2011-03-15, at 09:38, Martin Hill wrote:
> 
>> You are quite right Carlo, looks like a new feature of iOS 4.3 on the iPad 
>> is that it now supports Bluetooth tethering from older iPhones like the 3GS 
>> and even the 3G:
>> 
>> Hugh, here are some nice detailed instructions how to do it here in 
>> Australia with Optus:
>> 
>> http://swangle.blogspot.com/2011/03/bluetooth-tether-ipad-to-iphone-in-ios.html
>> 
>> Carlo, have you noticed however whether the GPS location info from the 
>> iPhone 3GS is routed through to the iPad as well?
>> 
>> -Mar
>> 
>> On 15/03/2011, at 7:59 AM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mart,
>>> 
>>> I have successfully had my iPad connected to a hot spot set up on my iPhone 
>>> 3GS running iOS 4.3. From memory I used a bluetooth connection.
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, in my opinion jailbreaking is not a good idea unless you do 
>>> it for second phone that you don't rely on.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-15, at 07:38, Martin Hill wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 
>>>> 3GS is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with 
>>>> iOS 4.3) neither of which works with an iPad. 
>>>> 
>>>> You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have 
>>>> no idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation. 
>>>> 
>>>> -Mart
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to 
>>>>> connect my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hugh Griffiths
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> mobile +61 407 477 311
>>>>> 
>>>>> office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
>>>>> 
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>>>>> negotiations. Not an offer or acceptance.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Act 2003. This includes but is not limited to quotes, order confirmation, 
>>>>> and shipment advices.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Martin Hill
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
>>>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 
>>>>> 4 when connected to the phone's personal hotspot.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the 
>>>>> wifi-only iPad.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would 
>>>>> still go for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and 
>>>>> also so I didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot 
>>>>> and GPS reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite 
>>>>> fast.   
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[cm]

Hi Mart,

It would be interesting to know if GPS is routed from an iPhone to a tethered 
iPad. II will test as soon as I am in a position to do so -- probably tonight. 
Or some other member may be in a position to see now.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-03-15, at 09:38, Martin Hill wrote:

> You are quite right Carlo, looks like a new feature of iOS 4.3 on the iPad is 
> that it now supports Bluetooth tethering from older iPhones like the 3GS and 
> even the 3G:
> 
> Hugh, here are some nice detailed instructions how to do it here in Australia 
> with Optus:
> 
> http://swangle.blogspot.com/2011/03/bluetooth-tether-ipad-to-iphone-in-ios.html
> 
> Carlo, have you noticed however whether the GPS location info from the iPhone 
> 3GS is routed through to the iPad as well?
> 
> -Mar
> 
> On 15/03/2011, at 7:59 AM, cm wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mart,
>> 
>> I have successfully had my iPad connected to a hot spot set up on my iPhone 
>> 3GS running iOS 4.3. From memory I used a bluetooth connection.
>> 
>> Incidentally, in my opinion jailbreaking is not a good idea unless you do it 
>> for second phone that you don't rely on.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 2011-03-15, at 07:38, Martin Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 
>>> 3GS is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with 
>>> iOS 4.3) neither of which works with an iPad. 
>>> 
>>> You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have 
>>> no idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation. 
>>> 
>>> -Mart
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to 
>>>> connect my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Hugh Griffiths
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> mobile +61 407 477 311
>>>> 
>>>> office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
>>>> 
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>>>> negotiations. Not an offer or acceptance.
>>>> 
>>>> All correspondence directly pertaining to the act of doing business will 
>>>> continue to be transmitted for your information as allowed under the SPAM 
>>>> Act 2003. This includes but is not limited to quotes, order confirmation, 
>>>> and shipment advices.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Martin Hill
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
>>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 
>>>> when connected to the phone's personal hotspot.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the 
>>>> wifi-only iPad.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still 
>>>> go for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so 
>>>> I didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
>>>> reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.   
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> -Mart
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> and thanks Pedro, too.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Note. 
>>>> 
>>>> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to 

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Martin Hill]

You are quite right Carlo, looks like a new feature of iOS 4.3 on the iPad is 
that it now supports Bluetooth tethering from older iPhones like the 3GS and 
even the 3G:

Hugh, here are some nice detailed instructions how to do it here in Australia 
with Optus:

http://swangle.blogspot.com/2011/03/bluetooth-tether-ipad-to-iphone-in-ios.html

Carlo, have you noticed however whether the GPS location info from the iPhone 
3GS is routed through to the iPad as well?

-Mar

On 15/03/2011, at 7:59 AM, cm wrote:

> Hi Mart,
> 
> I have successfully had my iPad connected to a hot spot set up on my iPhone 
> 3GS running iOS 4.3. From memory I used a bluetooth connection.
> 
> Incidentally, in my opinion jailbreaking is not a good idea unless you do it 
> for second phone that you don't rely on.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> On 2011-03-15, at 07:38, Martin Hill wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 
>> 3GS is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with 
>> iOS 4.3) neither of which works with an iPad. 
>> 
>> You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have no 
>> idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation. 
>> 
>> -Mart
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:
>> 
>>> So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to 
>>> connect my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> Hugh Griffiths
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> mobile +61 407 477 311
>>> 
>>> office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
>>> 
>>> Any commercial terms stated or implied are subject to final approval and 
>>> negotiations. Not an offer or acceptance.
>>> 
>>> All correspondence directly pertaining to the act of doing business will 
>>> continue to be transmitted for your information as allowed under the SPAM 
>>> Act 2003. This includes but is not limited to quotes, order confirmation, 
>>> and shipment advices.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
>>> Of Martin Hill
>>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 
>>> when connected to the phone's personal hotspot.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
>>> iPad.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still 
>>> go for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so 
>>> I didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
>>> reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.   
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -Mart
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> and thanks Pedro, too.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Note. 
>>> 
>>> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to 
>>> actually have a SIM card in it.
>>> 
>>> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> r
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
>>> 
>>

RE: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Hugh Griffiths]

I would be interested to hear how you did it as I can't get either my ipad or 
my iphone 3gs to recognize either when blue tooth turns on? Have you added some 
app to your ipad?

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of cm
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:00 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

Hi Mart,

I have successfully had my iPad connected to a hot spot set up on my iPhone 3GS 
running iOS 4.3. From memory I used a bluetooth connection.

Incidentally, in my opinion jailbreaking is not a good idea unless you do it 
for second phone that you don't rely on.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-15, at 07:38, Martin Hill wrote:


Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 3GS 
is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with iOS 4.3) 
neither of which works with an iPad.

You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have no 
idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation.

-Mart

Sent from my iPhone

On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths 
mailto:hgriffi...@lgc.com>> wrote:
So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to connect 
my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

mobile +61 407 477 311
office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au<mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au> 
[mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of Martin Hill
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 when 
connected to the phone's personal hotspot.

http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way

This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
iPad.

In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still go 
for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.

-Mart

On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:



Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,

and thanks Pedro, too.

Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford 
mailto:rbelf...@highway1.com.au>> wrote:
Note.
You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
have a SIM card in it.
The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.

r

On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:



Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/

cheers

Pedro

On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:



Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.

C

On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:



Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.

The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and topographical 
maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very compelling.

Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection (Assisted 
GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your old GPS to 
get its first fix.

Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
4WD.  :-)

-Mart

On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:




Hi Brian,

You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
iPad model.

a) 3G or WiFi only?
b) How much memory?

By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism benefited 
from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software relevant to 
your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly one that 
dedicated groups are already addressing.

a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad mainly 
from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes and 
libraries you can get by with the Wifi 

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[cm]

Hi Mart,

I have successfully had my iPad connected to a hot spot set up on my iPhone 3GS 
running iOS 4.3. From memory I used a bluetooth connection.

Incidentally, in my opinion jailbreaking is not a good idea unless you do it 
for second phone that you don't rely on.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-15, at 07:38, Martin Hill wrote:

> Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 
> 3GS is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with 
> iOS 4.3) neither of which works with an iPad. 
> 
> You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have no 
> idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation. 
> 
> -Mart
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:
> 
>> So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to 
>> connect my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Hugh Griffiths
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> mobile +61 407 477 311
>> 
>> office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
>> 
>> Any commercial terms stated or implied are subject to final approval and 
>> negotiations. Not an offer or acceptance.
>> 
>> All correspondence directly pertaining to the act of doing business will 
>> continue to be transmitted for your information as allowed under the SPAM 
>> Act 2003. This includes but is not limited to quotes, order confirmation, 
>> and shipment advices.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
>> Of Martin Hill
>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
>> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 
>> when connected to the phone's personal hotspot.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
>> iPad.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still 
>> go for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
>> didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
>> reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.   
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -Mart
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> and thanks Pedro, too.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:
>> 
>> Note. 
>> 
>> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
>> have a SIM card in it.
>> 
>> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> r
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For 
>> me this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
>> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very 
>> compelling.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
>> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your 
>> old GPS to get its first fix.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of 
>> the 4WD.  :-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -Mart
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 09/03/2011, at 9:3

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Martin Hill]

Unfortunately Apple has only implemented wifi sharing on the iPhone 4. The 3GS 
is limited to just Bluetooth and USB sharing as in the past (even with iOS 4.3) 
neither of which works with an iPad. 

You would have to jailbreak your iPhone 3GS to do wifi sharing and I have no 
idea whether the GPS data would come thru in that situation. 

-Mart

Sent from my iPhone

On 14/03/2011, at 10:42 PM, Hugh Griffiths  wrote:

> So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to 
> connect my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Hugh Griffiths
> 
>  
> 
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> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
> Martin Hill
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
> To: WAMUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)
> 
>  
> 
> Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 
> when connected to the phone's personal hotspot.
> 
>  
> 
> http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way
> 
>  
> 
> This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
> iPad.
> 
>  
> 
> In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still go 
> for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
> didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
> reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.   
> 
>  
> 
> -Mart
> 
>  
> 
> On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,
> 
>  
> 
> and thanks Pedro, too.
> 
> Brian
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Note. 
> 
> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
> have a SIM card in it.
> 
> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
> 
>  
> 
> r
> 
>  
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
> 
>  
> 
> cheers
> 
>  
> 
> Pedro
> 
>  
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
> 
>  
> 
> C
> 
>  
> 
> On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
> this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
> 
>  
> 
> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very 
> compelling.
> 
>  
> 
> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your 
> old GPS to get its first fix.
> 
>  
> 
> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
> 4WD.  :-)
> 
>  
> 
> -Mart
> 
>  
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
> iPad model.
> 
> a) 3G or WiFi only?
> b) How much memory?
> 
> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software 
> relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly 
> one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
> 
> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes and 
> libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only if 
> you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map application) 
> or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps customer sites if 
> you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would need a data plan e

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[cm]

Hi Hugh,

The personal hot spot is a new feature in iOS 4.3 and is turned on it Settings. 
If you do not see the feature you may need to sync with iTunes and let it 
upgrade iOS.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-14, at 22:42, Hugh Griffiths wrote:

> So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to 
> connect my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?
>  
> Best Regards
> Hugh Griffiths
>  
> mobile +61 407 477 311
> office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
> Any commercial terms stated or implied are subject to final approval and 
> negotiations. Not an offer or acceptance.
> All correspondence directly pertaining to the act of doing business will 
> continue to be transmitted for your information as allowed under the SPAM Act 
> 2003. This includes but is not limited to quotes, order confirmation, and 
> shipment advices.
>  
>  
> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
> Martin Hill
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
> To: WAMUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)
>  
> Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 
> when connected to the phone's personal hotspot.
>  
> http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way
>  
> This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
> iPad.
>  
> In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still go 
> for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
> didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
> reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.   
>  
> -Mart
>  
> On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,
>  
> and thanks Pedro, too.
> 
> Brian
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Note. 
> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
> have a SIM card in it.
> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
>  
> r
>  
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
> 
> 
> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
>  
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
>  
> cheers
>  
> Pedro
>  
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
>  
> C
>  
> On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
> 
> 
> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
> this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
>  
> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very 
> compelling.
>  
> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your 
> old GPS to get its first fix.
>  
> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
> 4WD.  :-)
>  
> -Mart
>  
> On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
> iPad model.
> 
> a) 3G or WiFi only?
> b) How much memory?
> 
> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software 
> relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly 
> one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
> 
> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes and 
> libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only if 
> you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map application) 
> or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps customer sites if 
> you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would need a data plan either 
> prepay or postpay.
> 
> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
> version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if your 
> carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but they 
> could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in the US, 
> for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.
> 
> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself and 
> your family, then the 16GB is probably s

RE: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Hugh Griffiths]

So does this mean this only works with a iphone 4, I can see no way to connect 
my ipad via Bluetooth to my iphone 3gs? Am I missing something?

Best Regards
Hugh Griffiths

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office +61 (0) 8 6424 4801
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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
Martin Hill
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:01 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 when 
connected to the phone's personal hotspot.

http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way

This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
iPad.

In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still go 
for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.

-Mart

On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:


Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,

and thanks Pedro, too.

Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford 
mailto:rbelf...@highway1.com.au>> wrote:
Note.
You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
have a SIM card in it.
The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.

r

On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:


Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/

cheers

Pedro

On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:


Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.

C

On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:


Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.

The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and topographical 
maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very compelling.

Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection (Assisted 
GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your old GPS to 
get its first fix.

Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
4WD.  :-)

-Mart

On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:



Hi Brian,

You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
iPad model.

a) 3G or WiFi only?
b) How much memory?

By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism benefited 
from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software relevant to 
your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly one that 
dedicated groups are already addressing.

a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad mainly 
from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes and 
libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only if you 
make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map application) or in 
areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps customer sites if you are 
in the service industry. To use 3G you would need a data plan either prepay or 
postpay.

It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if your 
carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but they 
could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in the US, for 
instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.

b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself and 
your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to store 
media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that you need more 
memory (32GB or 64GB).

I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point used the 
3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe with friends 
to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has been way more than 
enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes collection on my MacBook Pro 
and only transfer a small number of films and photos to the iPad on an as 
needed basis. My main video consumption on the iPad is the iView feature of the 
ABC. iView programs can be viewed with either a dedicated iView app on the 
iPad, which uses no storage, or by streaming the programs from my MacBook Pro 
with a app called Video Server -- this also uses no storage.

I went for a slightly cheaper

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Martin Hill]

Well it looks like a wifi iPad can actually get a GPS fix form an iPhone 4 when 
connected to the phone's personal hotspot.

http://blog.urbanape.com/post/3798485232/show-me-the-way

This does significantly reduce the disadvantages of going for the wifi-only 
iPad.

In my case though, apart from other reasons discussed below, I would still go 
for the 3G iPad so I didn't have to have an iPhone 4 around and also so I 
didn't run down the battery on the phone doing personal hotspot and GPS 
reception, both of which suck the life out of an iPhone quite fast.   

-Mart

On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:

> Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,
> 
> and thanks Pedro, too.
> 
> Brian
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
>> Note. 
>> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
>> have a SIM card in it.
>> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
>> 
>> r
>> 
>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
>> 
>>> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
>>> 
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
>>> 
 Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
 
 C
 
 On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
 
> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  
> For me this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
> 
> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is 
> very compelling.
> 
> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for 
> your old GPS to get its first fix.
> 
> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of 
> the 4WD.  :-)
> 
> -Mart
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when 
>> choosing an iPad model.
>> 
>> a) 3G or WiFi only?
>> b) How much memory?
>> 
>> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
>> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose 
>> software relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question 
>> and possibly one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
>> 
>> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
>> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many 
>> cafes and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will 
>> need 3G only if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say 
>> the map application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- 
>> perhaps customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you 
>> would need a data plan either prepay or postpay.
>> 
>> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the 
>> current version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use 
>> this if your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows 
>> tethering but they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any 
>> time. AT&T in the US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data 
>> using tethering.
>> 
>> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself 
>> and your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to 
>> store media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that 
>> you need more memory (32GB or 64GB).
>> 
>> I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point 
>> used the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a 
>> cafe with friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB 
>> has been way more than enough memory for me because I keep my main 
>> iTunes collection on my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of 
>> films and photos to the iPad on an as needed basis. My main video 
>> consumption on the iPad is the iView feature of the ABC. iView programs 
>> can be viewed with either a dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses 
>> no storage, or by streaming the programs from my MacBook Pro with a app 
>> called Video Server -- this also uses no storage.
>> 
>> I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the 
>> time to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 
>> 16 GB as that will meet my needs.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, about to lash out

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[cm]

Good find Brian! The article also includes a link to a comparison of Australian 
iPhone 4 postpay contracts. (A tiny bit dated now as it was written on January 
7.)

http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/01/planhacker-australian-iphone-4-contract-plan-guide-2011/

If anyone knows of a similarly concise comparison of iPhone prepay contracts, 
please send along the link.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-03-11, at 07:49, Brian Risbey wrote:

> 
> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/03/which-australian-carriers-will-support-ios-4-3-hotspots/#more-443081
> 
> 
> 
> Seems Optus and Telstra will not charge for tethering. So a 3G iPad2 will not 
> need a sim card...
> 
> 
> Brian
> 




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Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Brian Risbey]

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/03/which-australian-carriers-will-support-ios-4-3-hotspots/#more-443081



Seems Optus and Telstra will not charge for tethering. So a 3G iPad2 will not 
need a sim card...


Brian



On 10/03/2011, at 7:00 AM, Brian Risbey wrote:

Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,

and thanks Pedro, too.

Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:

> Note. 
> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
> have a SIM card in it.
> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
> 
> r
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
> 
>> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
>> 
>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
>>> 
>>> C
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
>>> 
 Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For 
 me this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
 
 The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
 topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is 
 very compelling.
 
 Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
 (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for 
 your old GPS to get its first fix.
 
 Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of 
 the 4WD.  :-)
 
 -Mart
 
 On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing 
> an iPad model.
> 
> a) 3G or WiFi only?
> b) How much memory?
> 
> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose 
> software relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question 
> and possibly one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
> 
> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes 
> and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G 
> only if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map 
> application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps 
> customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would 
> need a data plan either prepay or postpay.
> 
> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
> version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if 
> your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering 
> but they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T 
> in the US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using 
> tethering.
> 
> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself 
> and your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to 
> store media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that 
> you need more memory (32GB or 64GB).
> 
> I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point 
> used the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe 
> with friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has 
> been way more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes 
> collection on my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films 
> and photos to the iPad on an as needed basis. My main video consumption 
> on the iPad is the iView feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed 
> with either a dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or 
> by streaming the programs from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video 
> Server -- this also uses no storage.
> 
> I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the 
> time to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 
> 16 GB as that will meet my needs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?
>> I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data 
>> hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if 
>> so I would only need a wifi version, correct?
>> Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one 
>> available to him at school hence the interest.
>> Brian
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailin

Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Brian Risbey]

Thank you Robin that made it easy, the 3G, it is,

and thanks Pedro, too.

Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 10/03/2011, at 5:42, Robin Belford  wrote:

> Note. 
> You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
> have a SIM card in it.
> The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.
> 
> r
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:
> 
>> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
>> 
>> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
>>> 
>>> C
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
>>> 
 Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For 
 me this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
 
 The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
 topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is 
 very compelling.
 
 Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
 (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for 
 your old GPS to get its first fix.
 
 Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of 
 the 4WD.  :-)
 
 -Mart
 
 On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing 
> an iPad model.
> 
> a) 3G or WiFi only?
> b) How much memory?
> 
> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose 
> software relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question 
> and possibly one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
> 
> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes 
> and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G 
> only if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map 
> application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps 
> customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would 
> need a data plan either prepay or postpay.
> 
> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
> version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if 
> your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering 
> but they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T 
> in the US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using 
> tethering.
> 
> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself 
> and your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to 
> store media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that 
> you need more memory (32GB or 64GB).
> 
> I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point 
> used the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe 
> with friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has 
> been way more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes 
> collection on my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films 
> and photos to the iPad on an as needed basis. My main video consumption 
> on the iPad is the iView feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed 
> with either a dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or 
> by streaming the programs from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video 
> Server -- this also uses no storage.
> 
> I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the 
> time to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 
> 16 GB as that will meet my needs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?
>> I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data 
>> hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if 
>> so I would only need a wifi version, correct?
>> Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one 
>> available to him at school hence the interest.
>> Brian
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[Brian Risbey]

The GPS aspect would be useful with some of my favorite Apps, thank you Mart 
for your experience.

Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/03/2011, at 22:02, Martin Hill  wrote:

> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
> this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
> 
> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very 
> compelling.
> 
> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your 
> old GPS to get its first fix.
> 
> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
> 4WD.  :-)
> 
> -Mart
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
>> iPad model.
>> 
>> a) 3G or WiFi only?
>> b) How much memory?
>> 
>> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
>> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software 
>> relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly 
>> one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
>> 
>> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
>> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes 
>> and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only 
>> if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map 
>> application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps 
>> customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would need 
>> a data plan either prepay or postpay.
>> 
>> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
>> version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if 
>> your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but 
>> they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in the 
>> US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.
>> 
>> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself and 
>> your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to store 
>> media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that you need 
>> more memory (32GB or 64GB).
>> 
>> I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point used 
>> the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe with 
>> friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has been way 
>> more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes collection on 
>> my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films and photos to the 
>> iPad on an as needed basis. My main video consumption on the iPad is the 
>> iView feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed with either a 
>> dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or by streaming the 
>> programs from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video Server -- this also 
>> uses no storage.
>> 
>> I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the time 
>> to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 16 GB as 
>> that will meet my needs.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?
>>> I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data 
>>> hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if so 
>>> I would only need a wifi version, correct?
>>> Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one 
>>> available to him at school hence the interest.
>>> Brian
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Robin Belford]

Note. 
You only need the 3G to be turned on in the iPad. You don't need to actually 
have a SIM card in it.
The reason is that the GPS functionality is built into the 3G chip.

r

On 09/03/2011, at 10:50 PM, Pedro wrote:

> Here are three goods reasons for a 3G model
> 
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:
>> 
>>> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For 
>>> me this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
>>> 
>>> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
>>> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very 
>>> compelling.
>>> 
>>> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
>>> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for 
>>> your old GPS to get its first fix.
>>> 
>>> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of 
>>> the 4WD.  :-)
>>> 
>>> -Mart
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing 
 an iPad model.
 
 a) 3G or WiFi only?
 b) How much memory?
 
 By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
 benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose 
 software relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question 
 and possibly one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
 
 a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
 mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes 
 and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G 
 only if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map 
 application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps 
 customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would 
 need a data plan either prepay or postpay.
 
 It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
 version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if 
 your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but 
 they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in 
 the US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.
 
 b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself 
 and your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to 
 store media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that 
 you need more memory (32GB or 64GB).
 
 I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point used 
 the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe with 
 friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has been way 
 more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes collection on 
 my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films and photos to the 
 iPad on an as needed basis. My main video consumption on the iPad is the 
 iView feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed with either a 
 dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or by streaming 
 the programs from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video Server -- this 
 also uses no storage.
 
 I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the time 
 to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 16 GB 
 as that will meet my needs.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
 
> 
> Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?
> I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data 
> hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if 
> so I would only need a wifi version, correct?
> Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one 
> available to him at school hence the interest.
> Brian
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[Pedro]

Here are three goods reasons for a 3G modelhttp://www.tuaw.com/2011/03/06/iphone-4-personal-hotspot-wi-fi-only-ipad-possible-but-wit/cheersPedroOn 09/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, cm wrote:Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.COn 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very compelling.Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your old GPS to get its first fix.Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 4WD.  :-)-MartOn 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:Hi Brian,You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an iPad model.a) 3G or WiFi only?b) How much memory?By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly one that dedicated groups are already addressing.a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would need a data plan either prepay or postpay. It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in the US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself and your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to store media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that you need more memory (32GB or 64GB).I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point used the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe with friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has been way more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes collection on my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films and photos to the iPad on an as needed basis. My main video consumption on the iPad is the iView feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed with either a dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or by streaming the programs from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video Server -- this also uses no storage.I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the time to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 16 GB as that will meet my needs.Cheers,CarloOn 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if so I would only need a wifi version, correct?Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one available to him at school hence the interest.BrianSent from my iPhone-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - 



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Re: IPad2 and iPhone hot spot (and GPS!)

[cm]

Yes. Good point about the GPS, Mart.

C

On 2011-03-09, at 22:02, Martin Hill wrote:

> Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
> this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  
> 
> The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and 
> topographical maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very 
> compelling.
> 
> Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection 
> (Assisted GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your 
> old GPS to get its first fix.
> 
> Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
> 4WD.  :-)
> 
> -Mart
> 
> On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
>> iPad model.
>> 
>> a) 3G or WiFi only?
>> b) How much memory?
>> 
>> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
>> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software 
>> relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly 
>> one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
>> 
>> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
>> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes 
>> and libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only 
>> if you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map 
>> application) or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps 
>> customer sites if you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would need 
>> a data plan either prepay or postpay.
>> 
>> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
>> version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if 
>> your carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but 
>> they could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in the 
>> US, for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.
>> 
>> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself and 
>> your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to store 
>> media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that you need 
>> more memory (32GB or 64GB).
>> 
>> I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point used 
>> the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe with 
>> friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has been way 
>> more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes collection on 
>> my MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films and photos to the 
>> iPad on an as needed basis. My main video consumption on the iPad is the 
>> iView feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed with either a 
>> dedicated iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or by streaming the 
>> programs from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video Server -- this also 
>> uses no storage.
>> 
>> I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the time 
>> to get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 16 GB as 
>> that will meet my needs.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?
>>> I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data 
>>> hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if so 
>>> I would only need a wifi version, correct?
>>> Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one 
>>> available to him at school hence the interest.
>>> Brian
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[Martin Hill]

Don't forget that only the 3G version of the iPad has a GPS receiver.  For me 
this is the deal-breaker for the wifi-only model.  

The possibility of having GPS-enriched turn-by-turn, off-road and topographical 
maps the size of the old UBD instead of postcard size is very compelling.

Also, the combination of a GPS chip and a mobile internet connection (Assisted 
GPS) mean there is no more of the waiting several minutes for your old GPS to 
get its first fix.

Now I just need to work out how best to mount an iPad on the dashboard of the 
4WD.  :-)

-Mart

On 09/03/2011, at 9:38 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You have correctly identified the two independent questions when choosing an 
> iPad model.
> 
> a) 3G or WiFi only?
> b) How much memory?
> 
> By the way, a number of articles have touted how children with Autism 
> benefited from an iPad. That will probably require that you choose software 
> relevant to your son's needs but that is a whole other question and possibly 
> one that dedicated groups are already addressing.
> 
> a) So 3G or Wifi only? If you intend to used the internet from you iPad 
> mainly from home, work or a WiFi enabled public place, such as many cafes and 
> libraries you can get by with the Wifi only model. You will need 3G only if 
> you make significant use of the iPad while outside (say the map application) 
> or in areas where you do not have access to WiFi -- perhaps customer sites if 
> you are in the service industry. To use 3G you would need a data plan either 
> prepay or postpay.
> 
> It is true that iOS 4.3 will have a personal hotspot feature, the current 
> version of iOS already has a tethering feature. You can only use this if your 
> carrier allows it. Internode, for one, currently allows tethering but they 
> could choose to charge extra for this feature at any time. AT&T in the US, 
> for instance, charges $20 a month for 1GB of data using tethering.
> 
> b) How much memory? If you want the iPad mainly to run apps for yourself and 
> your family, then the 16GB is probably sufficient. Once you start to store 
> media on the iPad such as films or photo's they you may find that you need 
> more memory (32GB or 64GB).
> 
> I, personally, went for the 3G / 32GB model. I have not to this point used 
> the 3G feature apart from some tests of tethering and once at a cafe with 
> friends to show them some features of the iPad. :-}. The 32GB has been way 
> more than enough memory for me because I keep my main iTunes collection on my 
> MacBook Pro and only transfer a small number of films and photos to the iPad 
> on an as needed basis. My main video consumption on the iPad is the iView 
> feature of the ABC. iView programs can be viewed with either a dedicated 
> iView app on the iPad, which uses no storage, or by streaming the programs 
> from my MacBook Pro with a app called Video Server -- this also uses no 
> storage.
> 
> I went for a slightly cheaper iPad because I was planning even at the time to 
> get and iPad 2 as well. This time I will likely get WiFi only / 16 GB as that 
> will meet my needs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> 
> On 2011-03-09, at 20:58, Brian Risbey wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone, about to lash out on an iPad2 but which model?
>> I believe that the next iPad/ iPhone software update will include a data 
>> hotspot enabling both our iPhone4s to allow data and Internet access- if so 
>> I would only need a wifi version, correct?
>> Apparently iPads are great for children with Autism, my son has one 
>> available to him at school hence the interest.
>> Brian
>> Sent from my iPhone
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