Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Shay Telfer


Try Disk Inventory X

http://www.derlien.com/

Have fun,
Shay

On 6/08/2009 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:


For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained fairly
static at about half the total (~80GB). I have made no recent downloads
of any large applications or other files but suddenly my HD is almost
full (147GB). My remote back up disk which has done a full back up
followed by daily incremental backups under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my hard
drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders without
wading through them all?

Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB 667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7






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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Ronda Brown



On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk which  
has done a full back up followed by daily incremental backups under  
CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched  
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my hard  
drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders  
without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows you  
in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If its  
stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7



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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Hinchliffe



On 06/08/2009, at 3:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk  
which has done a full back up followed by daily incremental backups  
under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched  
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my hard  
drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders  
without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows  
you in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If  
its stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni




Can anyone confirm that tools such as DI  X and Whatsize (both  
excellent BTW) report on hidden files? It's my impression that they  
only report on the files that the Finder can see under normal use.  
Barry's problem may be tied up with with something deeper like a  
corrupted Master Directory Block or somesuch.


It would be worth running Disk Warrior or similar disc-level repair  
tool, or at the very least doing a file system check:


1. restart the computer, and hold the Command and 's' keys while  
booting.
2. At the blinking prompt type fsck -fy (note the space! ) and let  
it do its thing. This will fix any underlying directory problems.

3. Type reboot when finished.

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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Ronda Brown



On 07/08/2009, at 8:48 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 3:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk  
which has done a full back up followed by daily incremental  
backups under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched  
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my  
hard drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders  
without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows  
you in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If  
its stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni




Can anyone confirm that tools such as DI  X and Whatsize (both  
excellent BTW) report on hidden files? It's my impression that they  
only report on the files that the Finder can see under normal use.  
Barry's problem may be tied up with with something deeper like a  
corrupted Master Directory Block or somesuch.


It would be worth running Disk Warrior or similar disc-level repair  
tool, or at the very least doing a file system check:


1. restart the computer, and hold the Command and 's' keys while  
booting.
2. At the blinking prompt type fsck -fy (note the space! ) and let  
it do its thing. This will fix any underlying directory problems.

3. Type reboot when finished.


Hi Peter,

WhatSize documentation says: Hidden files, cache files, directories  
will all show up with their corresponding size. This application is  
similar to the ancient NeXTSTEP, DarkForest. Once the measuring of a  
folder has ended the user can also view the information by filtering  
for particular file sizes or types. The user can also move unwanted  
files and folder in the corresponding Trash bin similar to the  
Finder's Delete button.


Disk Inventory X does seem to show hidden files also. I understand it  
searches invisible directories.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7



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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Barry Sexstone


Thanks Ronni I will try one of these.
I am baffled why the sudden increase in disk usage but when I find the  
culprit it may become clearer.


Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7




On 06/08/2009, at 3:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk  
which has done a full back up followed by daily incremental backups  
under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched  
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my hard  
drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders  
without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows  
you in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If  
its stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7



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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Barry Sexstone


Thanks Peter
I have run disk warrior with no apparent change but will also try your  
other suggestion.


Regards

Barry

On 07/08/2009, at 8:48 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 3:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk  
which has done a full back up followed by daily incremental  
backups under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched  
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my  
hard drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders  
without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows  
you in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If  
its stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni




Can anyone confirm that tools such as DI  X and Whatsize (both  
excellent BTW) report on hidden files? It's my impression that they  
only report on the files that the Finder can see under normal use.  
Barry's problem may be tied up with with something deeper like a  
corrupted Master Directory Block or somesuch.


It would be worth running Disk Warrior or similar disc-level repair  
tool, or at the very least doing a file system check:


1. restart the computer, and hold the Command and 's' keys while  
booting.
2. At the blinking prompt type fsck -fy (note the space! ) and let  
it do its thing. This will fix any underlying directory problems.

3. Type reboot when finished.

--

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.







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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Robert Howells




No doubt using the software shown by Ronni will help

BUT   am I missing something here ?

I would have thought that the very first simplest first check would be

double click on drive ( or use finder ) to show the hard drive index

Make sure you have the size column as part of the display
( if not showing go   View - view options - check show size )

click on  size  at the head of the size column so you sort by size
( click size again if you want largest at the top )

and see what you have !  ?

Bob



On 07/08/2009, at 11:56 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Thanks Ronni I will try one of these.
I am baffled why the sudden increase in disk usage but when I find  
the culprit it may become clearer.


Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7




On 06/08/2009, at 3:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk  
which has done a full back up followed by daily incremental  
backups under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and searched  
through the main folders for very large folders with no avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my  
hard drive and is there an easy way to find large files or folders  
without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows  
you in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If  
its stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7



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Re-Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Barry Sexstone


Using Disk Inventory X I discovered a a complete back up of my  
system.  This did not appear in Finder and I am at a loss to know how  
it occurred.  It was dated 1st August (is this Mac's equivalent to  
April 1st?).  Of course this back up immediately doubled my disc usage!


Many thanks to all who asssisted

Barry


iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7






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Re: Re-Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Rob Findlay


Just saw your message. I guess I would have done my dough!
:)

On 07/08/2009, at 12:58 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Using Disk Inventory X I discovered a a complete back up of my  
system.  This did not appear in Finder and I am at a loss to know  
how it occurred.  It was dated 1st August (is this Mac's equivalent  
to April 1st?).  Of course this back up immediately doubled my disc  
usage!


Many thanks to all who asssisted

Barry


iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7






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Re: Hard disk suddenly full

2009-08-06 Thread Rob Findlay


Doesn't show the hidden files, hence why you need WhatSize (which is  
great).

I'd put money on it being a log file in /var/log/asl

On 07/08/2009, at 12:13 PM, Robert Howells wrote:





No doubt using the software shown by Ronni will help

BUT   am I missing something here ?

I would have thought that the very first simplest first check would be

double click on drive ( or use finder ) to show the hard drive index

Make sure you have the size column as part of the display
( if not showing go   View - view options - check show size )

click on  size  at the head of the size column so you sort by size
( click size again if you want largest at the top )

and see what you have !  ?

Bob



On 07/08/2009, at 11:56 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



Thanks Ronni I will try one of these.
I am baffled why the sudden increase in disk usage but when I find  
the culprit it may become clearer.


Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7




On 06/08/2009, at 3:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 06/08/2009, at 2:46 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote:



For the last few months the available space on my HD has remained  
fairly static at about half the total (~80GB).  I have made no  
recent downloads of any large applications or other files but  
suddenly my HD is almost full (147GB).  My remote back up disk  
which has done a full back up followed by daily incremental  
backups under CCC only shows 70GB used.
I have done the obvious deletions of caches and trash and  
searched through the main folders for very large folders with no  
avail.
Has anyone any thoughts as to what may have suddenly filled my  
hard drive and is there an easy way to find large files or  
folders without wading through them all?


Regards

Barry

iMac 5,1
Intel Core 2 Duo 2GHz 667 MHz
2GB  667 MHz
150GB HD
OS X 10.5.7



Hello Barry,

Download a copy of 'disk inventory X' - it maps your HDD and shows  
you in a visual sense what exactly is taking all of your space. If  
its stuff that you don't need/want then you can delete it.

It's a good program to have ... and its free.
http://www.derlien.com/index.html

WhatSize is another you can use to see what is using your HD space.
http://whatsize.en.softonic.com/mac

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7



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