Re: Slow URL loading

2012-04-01 Thread John Thompson
Thanks once again Ronni,
I have followed all your tips, and tips from others and those gleaned 
from different sites that reference Safari problems.  Problem still exists so 
will have to be content for now sitting and waiting the several minutes for the 
initial link to open; once that occurs, others open normally until such time as 
I re-start Safari (Firefox 11 is slightly better but still slower than 
acceptable).
I am not game at the moment Ronni,  to attempt a Lion Recovery.  Having 
looked at the recovery site it appears I would have to reset and re-install far 
too much for me to attempt.

Regards

John
On 01/04/2012, at 11:19 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 Are you sure you are NOT running Safari 5.1.5 in 32-bit mode?
 Right or control click the Safari icon in your Applications folder then click 
 Get Info. 
 If the box next to:  Open in 32 bit mode  is selected, deselect, quit then 
 relaunch Safari.
 
 Also, since you are running v10.7.3 Lion, you can't reinstall Safari by just 
 redownloading the app from Apple, you have to use Lion Recovery.  
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
 
 First, try disabling the Lion resume feature which apparently caches pages 
 way too fast.
 
 Open System Preferences  General
 
 Deselect:  Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps
 
 
 I'm running Lion v10.7.3 with Safar 5.1.5 without any issues what so ever so 
 I hope something 
 
 works for you.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 01/04/2012, at 10:59 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Adrian,
   Thanks for the reminder but I have already done that to no avail.  Will 
 keep trying.
 
 John
 On 31/03/2012, at 11:13 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 Hi John!
 
 Reading the hints so far I don't see any mention of deleting the Safari 
 preference  com.apple.Safari.plist from the Library Preference Folder.  
 That was once upon a time a cure for a lot of annoying problems.
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Hi Again,
   This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
 earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
 time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
 re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered 
 with 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it 
 should.  I keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  
 Something has crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to 
 isolate it.
   I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
 started.
   I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
 has not improved.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi 
 strength. Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than 
 one Wifi client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no 
 problem with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not 
 the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
 processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
 after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
 not be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the 
 Router.  I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the 
 modem and that has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
 slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
 and see if 

Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-31 Thread John Thompson
Hi Adrian,
Thanks for the reminder but I have already done that to no avail.  Will 
keep trying.

John
On 31/03/2012, at 11:13 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

 Hi John!
 
 Reading the hints so far I don't see any mention of deleting the Safari 
 preference  com.apple.Safari.plist from the Library Preference Folder.  
 That was once upon a time a cure for a lot of annoying problems.
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Hi Again,
  This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
 earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
 time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
 re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 
 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I 
 keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has 
 crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
  I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
 started.
  I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
 has not improved.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi 
 strength. Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than 
 one Wifi client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no 
 problem with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the 
 problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
 processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
 after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
 not be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router. 
  I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that 
 has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
 slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
 and see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
 and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL 
 and all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with 
 Lion.  Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
   That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent 
 Sites’  Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block 
 pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) 
 I have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week 

Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-31 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi John,

Are you sure you are NOT running Safari 5.1.5 in 32-bit mode?
Right or control click the Safari icon in your Applications folder then click 
Get Info. 
If the box next to:  Open in 32 bit mode  is selected, deselect, quit then 
relaunch Safari.

Also, since you are running v10.7.3 Lion, you can't reinstall Safari by just 
redownloading the app from Apple, you have to use Lion Recovery.  
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
 
First, try disabling the Lion resume feature which apparently caches pages 
way too fast.
 
Open System Preferences  General
 
Deselect:  Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps
 

I'm running Lion v10.7.3 with Safar 5.1.5 without any issues what so ever so I 
hope something 

works for you.




Cheers,

Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 01/04/2012, at 10:59 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 Hi Adrian,
Thanks for the reminder but I have already done that to no avail.  Will 
 keep trying.
 
 John
 On 31/03/2012, at 11:13 AM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
 
 Hi John!
 
 Reading the hints so far I don't see any mention of deleting the Safari 
 preference  com.apple.Safari.plist from the Library Preference Folder.  
 That was once upon a time a cure for a lot of annoying problems.
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Adrian
 
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Hi Again,
This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
 earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
 time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
 re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 
 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I 
 keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has 
 crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
 started.
I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
 has not improved.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi 
 strength. Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than 
 one Wifi client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no 
 problem with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not 
 the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
 processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
 after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
 not be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the 
 Router.  I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem 
 and that has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
 slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
 and see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
 and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL 
 and all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do 
 with Lion.  Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 

Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-30 Thread John Thompson
Hi Again,
This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the time 
this older version appears to work as well as before but after re-starting the 
computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 5.1.5.  Firefox 
does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I keep going back to 
my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has crept into my setup but 
as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
started.
I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
has not improved.

Regards

John
On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:

 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi strength. 
 Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than one Wifi 
 client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no problem 
 with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of processes, 
 Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours after the 
 install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would not 
 be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router.  
 I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that 
 has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and 
 see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
 and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and 
 all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion. 
  Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
 That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’ 
  Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up 
 windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I 
 have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
  Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes 
 on in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at 
 times, before the site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-30 Thread cm
Hi John,

Just to get a clear picture in my mind, you first did a clean install of Lion. 
Is that correct? Did you test Safari at that point? On a clean install there 
could be no possible software configuration problem. If there was a problem at 
that point it could only have been hardware related or have had to do with your 
router configuration.

Once you start adding your data and applications, or adding plug-ins to and 
preference settings to Safari, there is a chance that the software 
configuration could be off in some fashion.

You could use extreme measures and delete all Safari configuration files and 
the app itself and reinstall OS X Lion over the top of your current 
installation. This would not harm your existing applications but would reset 
Safari back to its original state. After the reinstall you would then need to 
repair permissions and download all updates again. (Back up your data before 
doing this of course.)

If you are not inclined to take the above radical action, there are hours of 
enjoyment to be had toying with the configuration of Safari. Here is a 
MacRumors reference page that may help.

http://guides.macrumors.com/Speed_up_Safari

Cheers,
Carlo

On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 , John Thompson wrote:

 Hi Again,
   This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
 earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
 time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
 re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 
 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I 
 keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has 
 crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
   I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
 started.
   I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
 has not improved.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi strength. 
 Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than one Wifi 
 client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no problem 
 with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
 processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
 after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
 not be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router.  
 I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that 
 has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
 slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
 and see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
 and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and 
 all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with 
 Lion.  Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  

Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-30 Thread cm
I should have added, it is probably not a good idea to regress to older version 
of Safari. As one of Apples banner products, there are many security an 
performance fixes in each release, so we are best off installing updates as 
soon as they are available.

C


On 31/03/2012, at 11:08 , cm wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 Just to get a clear picture in my mind, you first did a clean install of 
 Lion. Is that correct? Did you test Safari at that point? On a clean install 
 there could be no possible software configuration problem. If there was a 
 problem at that point it could only have been hardware related or have had to 
 do with your router configuration.
 
 Once you start adding your data and applications, or adding plug-ins to and 
 preference settings to Safari, there is a chance that the software 
 configuration could be off in some fashion.
 
 You could use extreme measures and delete all Safari configuration files and 
 the app itself and reinstall OS X Lion over the top of your current 
 installation. This would not harm your existing applications but would reset 
 Safari back to its original state. After the reinstall you would then need to 
 repair permissions and download all updates again. (Back up your data before 
 doing this of course.)
 
 If you are not inclined to take the above radical action, there are hours of 
 enjoyment to be had toying with the configuration of Safari. Here is a 
 MacRumors reference page that may help.
 
 http://guides.macrumors.com/Speed_up_Safari
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Hi Again,
  This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
 earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
 time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
 re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 
 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I 
 keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has 
 crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
  I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
 started.
  I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
 has not improved.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi 
 strength. Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than 
 one Wifi client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no 
 problem with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the 
 problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
 processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
 after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
 not be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router. 
  I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that 
 has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
 slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
 and see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
 and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL 
 and all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with 
 Lion.  Have had no end of little problems 

Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-30 Thread Adrian Skehan
Hi John!

Reading the hints so far I don't see any mention of deleting the Safari 
preference  com.apple.Safari.plist from the Library Preference Folder.  That 
was once upon a time a cure for a lot of annoying problems.





Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 31/03/2012, at 10:52 AM, John Thompson wrote:

 Hi Again,
   This is still an ongoing problem for me.  At the moment I have found an 
 earlier version of Safari (5.1.1) and copied it to my HD.  For some of the 
 time this older version appears to work as well as before but after 
 re-starting the computer, it goes back to the same problem encountered with 
 5.1.5.  Firefox does work better but still not as rapidly as it should.  I 
 keep going back to my Macbook running SL and all is fine.  Something has 
 crept into my setup but as yet, I have not been able to isolate it.
   I had been away for a week and upon returning last Sunday this problem 
 started.
   I have followed all the tips given by Ronni and Carlo but the situation 
 has not improved.
 
 Regards
 
 John
 On 30/03/2012, at 10:00 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi strength. 
 Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than one Wifi 
 client is attached.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no problem 
 with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of 
 processes, Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours 
 after the install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would 
 not be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router.  
 I have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that 
 has not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too 
 slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router 
 and see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning 
 and back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and 
 all worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with 
 Lion.  Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent 
 Sites’  Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block 
 pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) 
 I have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
 Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun 
 goes on in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes 
 at times, before the site activates.  I have also tried 

Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread John Thompson
Sorry Ronni,
That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.

John
On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  Web 
 content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I have 
 cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
 Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
 actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari for 
 quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the site 
 activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread John Thompson
Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and back 
to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all worked just 
fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  Have had no end of 
little problems since installing same.

John
On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:

 Sorry Ronni,
   That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  Web 
 content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I have 
 cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
 actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari 
 for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the site 
 activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread cm
Hi John,

I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried Firefox 
and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two different browser 
would have a problem at the same time.

If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you would be 
the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of questions that may 
help identify the source (or not).

Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?

Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?

Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and see 
if the problem persists.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:

 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and 
 back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all 
 worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  Have 
 had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
  That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  
 Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I have 
 cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
   Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
 actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari 
 for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the 
 site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread John Thompson
Thanks for the response Carlo.

On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried Firefox 
 and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two different 
 browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you would 
 be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of questions that 
 may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and see 
 if the problem persists.
That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my main 
computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.

Thanks

John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and 
 back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all 
 worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  Have 
 had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
 That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  
 Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I 
 have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
  Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
 actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari 
 for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the 
 site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread cm
Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw Ronni's 
specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no problem with Snow 
Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the problem.

Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of processes, 
Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours after the install. 
These can slow down the response of the whole system.

Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet cable? 
Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?

Cheers,
Carlo

On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:

 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you would 
 be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of questions that 
 may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and 
 see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my main 
 computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and 
 back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all 
 worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  Have 
 had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  
 Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I 
 have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
 Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on 
 in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, 
 before the site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi John,

Did you ‘Empty the Cache’ as I mentioned in my previous email?
Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).

If Safari is still slow in Lion:
Close Safari, then if you don’t have your ~Library showing:
Open Terminal. Type or copy and paste
 
chflags nohidden ~/Library/
 
You will then be able to see ~/Library in the Finder. 

Go to ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.safari/. Delete the Cache.db file. 

Restart Safari and you should be all set. 

Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 AM, John Thompson wrote:

 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you would 
 be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of questions that 
 may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and 
 see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my main 
 computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and 
 back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all 
 worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  Have 
 had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  
 Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I 
 have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
 Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on 
 in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, 
 before the site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread John Thompson
Carlo,

On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:

 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw Ronni's 
 specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no problem with Snow 
 Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of processes, 
 Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours after the 
 install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would not be 
a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet cable? 
 Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router.  I 
have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that has not 
made a difference.

Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too slow.

John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you would 
 be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of questions that 
 may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and 
 see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my main 
 computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and 
 back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all 
 worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  Have 
 had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
   That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  
 Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I 
 have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes 
 on in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at 
 times, before the site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-29 Thread cm
Ok. Let us know how things turn out. I would double check the Wifi strength. 
Failing that it could be a router setup problem when more than one Wifi client 
is attached.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 30/03/2012, at 9:37 , John Thompson wrote:

 Carlo,
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:59 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Ah yes, a Mac mini of course. When I glanced at the email trail I saw 
 Ronni's specs by mistake and not yours. In any case if there is no problem 
 with Snow Leopard then your internet connection is likely not the problem.
 
 Have you had OS X Lion installed for long? There are a number of processes, 
 Spotlight indexing in particular, that run for a some hours after the 
 install. These can slow down the response of the whole system.
 Yes, I have had Lion for quite some time so the spotlight indexing would not 
 be a problem at this stage.
 
 Is your Mac mini connected by Wifi to your router or is it an ethernet 
 cable? Also how is your Macbook connected to the router?
 Both the Mac Mini and the Macbook are connected by wireless to the Router.  I 
 have tried to connect the mini be ethernet direct to the modem and that has 
 not made a difference.
 
 Will preserver for now and use the Macbook when I think the mini is too slow.
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:50 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response Carlo.
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:27 AM, cm wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I was a bit suspicious of the solution because you said you had tried 
 Firefox and it also had a problem. So it was not clear to me why two 
 different browser would have a problem at the same time.
 
 If it is a problem with Lion that slows down internet connections you 
 would be the first one to find such. So I guess I have a couple of 
 questions that may help identify the source (or not).
 
 Are, in fact, both Safari and Firefox slow on your Lion installation?
 Yes.  But Safari is slightly slower that Firefox
 
 Are either slow on a Snow Leopard installation if you still have one?
 I have Snow Leopard on my Macbook and both browsers work fine
 
 Try connecting you MacBook Pro up to someone else's internet / router and 
 see if the problem persists.
 That could be difficult as I don't have access to another router and my 
 main computer is a MacMini, not a Macbook Pro.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 On 30/03/2012, at 8:05 , John Thompson wrote:
 
 Well, that didn't work for long.  Turned the computer on this morning and 
 back to the same old problem.  Tried with my Macbook running SL and all 
 worked just fine.  Can't help think it is something to do with Lion.  
 Have had no end of little problems since installing same.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 4:33 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Sorry Ronni,
  That should have read Safari Preferences/Privacy, not Security.
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari 
 Preferences  Security?
 Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’ 
  Web content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.
 
 Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.3 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I 
 have cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
   Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the 
 last week actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes 
 on in Safari for quite some time. up to three or more minutes at 
 times, before the site activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
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Slow URL loading

2012-03-28 Thread John Thompson
Good Morning List,
Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari for 
quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the site 
activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
Any ideas?

Regards



John Thompson
WAMUG #861

Mac Mini
2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Mac OS X 10.7.3
jet...@iprimus.com.au
Mail 5.2
Safari 5.1.4
Firefox 11.0




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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-28 Thread John Thompson
Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I have 
cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.

All works fine now

John
On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:

 Good Morning List,
   Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
 actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari for 
 quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the site 
 activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 
 
 
 

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Re: Slow URL loading

2012-03-28 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi John,

I’m a bit concerned what Data did Primus ask you to clear in Safari Preferences 
 Security?
Safari Preferences  Security has your settings for ‘Fraudulent Sites’  Web 
content: Enable plug-ins, Java, JavaScript  Block pop-up windows.

Empty Cache and Reset Safari are under Safari (in Menu bar).

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.3 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 29/03/2012, at 12:01 PM, John Thompson wrote:

 Further to my earlier post.  On information from my server (Primus) I have 
 cleared the data stored in Safari Preferences/Security.
 
 All works fine now
 
 John
 On 29/03/2012, at 10:54 AM, John Thompson wrote:
 
 Good Morning List,
  Hopefully someone may have an answer.  Just recently (in the last week 
 actually) when clicking on web URL's the spinning sun goes on in Safari for 
 quite some time. up to three or more minutes at times, before the site 
 activates.  I have also tried Firefox.
 Any ideas?
 
 Regards
 
 
 
 John Thompson
 WAMUG #861
 
 Mac Mini
 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
 Mac OS X 10.7.3
 jet...@iprimus.com.au
 Mail 5.2
 Safari 5.1.4
 Firefox 11.0
 

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