Re: Spam Filter.
Malcolm McCallum wrote: Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :-( Is this the a common practice? Hi Mac I am no longer with Westnet but I remember using the spam filter service. It is a Sophos product I believe. I used it pretty much as you do, I would quickly scan down the list to look for any familiar names, you know, ones that don't look like Hartog D. Pennythrift etc. I usually only found the odd one from WAMUG really. The longer I did this the less mistakes it made, quite good I found, but certainly not one in a million. More like one in five hundred. This did not take too long. Nowadays I'm just using gmail and to my knowledge it's filter hasn't made a mistake yet. HTH Paul
Re: Spam Filter.
Steve, I don't disagree with your logic, but I have a filter operating and although I do check the junk mail folder regularly, it can be done at a convenient time, rather than my inbox alerting me of incoming email every few minutes and annoying the cr*p outta me. I use Entourage and employ its junk mail filter on low setting. Works pretty well. Cheers, Steven On 12/3/07 7:31 PM, "Stephen Chape" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have considered installing a spam filter also, but I cannot > understand the point if you still have to go through the emails > anyway just to make sure it's done the job correctly. Might just as > well go through them in the Inbox and delete them myself. > > On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote: > >> Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to >> Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first >> employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they >> sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the >> email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading >> it. :-( Is this the a common practice? >> \ >> Mac >> Malcolm McCallum >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype docmactor >> > Regards, > Stephen Chape
Re: Spam Filter.
I have considered installing a spam filter also, but I cannot understand the point if you still have to go through the emails anyway just to make sure it's done the job correctly. Might just as well go through them in the Inbox and delete them myself. On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote: Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :-( Is this the a common practice? \ Mac Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Regards, Stephen Chape
Re: Spam Filter.
My point Adam,I do not even check apart from an ultra-rapid down the list. Mac On 12/03/2007, at 4:24 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote: I am not 100% sure of the SPAM filters currently used by Westnet however I am fairly sure that they are the same appliances that are used by iiNet. These devices barely even utilize baysian filters but use a global network of probes to monitor email traffic patterns and can block connections before they even get to the email servers based on the IP address the connection is being created from. They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have a false positive rate of under 1 in 1 million emails. Based on this information I would recommend changing the delivery options in your account tools to delete the spam emails before they even get to your inbox, that way you aren't paying for spammers to use your bandwidth. I have been doing this for roughly a year and I am yet to find out that I have missed an email. Lets face it, email is not a reliable enough medium where people are using it to the point that missing an email would be the end of the world, so even if you do miss one email in a million chances are it wont matter. Adam. On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote: Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :-( Is this the a common practice? \ Mac Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor
Re: Spam Filter.
I would only find the very,very occasional mistake :-0 Mac On 12/03/2007, at 2:34 PM, Lloyd White wrote: Hi Mac, I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective - and also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in my Junk folder. BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of orders for my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to check each spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose. Lloyd . Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :- ( Is this the a common practice? \ Mac Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lloyd White Write a Winning Job Application 3rd Edition. http://lloydwhite.iinet.net.au/ -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor
Re: Spam Filter.
I am not 100% sure of the SPAM filters currently used by Westnet however I am fairly sure that they are the same appliances that are used by iiNet. These devices barely even utilize baysian filters but use a global network of probes to monitor email traffic patterns and can block connections before they even get to the email servers based on the IP address the connection is being created from. They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have a false positive rate of under 1 in 1 million emails. Based on this information I would recommend changing the delivery options in your account tools to delete the spam emails before they even get to your inbox, that way you aren't paying for spammers to use your bandwidth. I have been doing this for roughly a year and I am yet to find out that I have missed an email. Lets face it, email is not a reliable enough medium where people are using it to the point that missing an email would be the end of the world, so even if you do miss one email in a million chances are it wont matter. Adam. On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote: Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :-( Is this the a common practice? \ Mac Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Spam Filter.
On 12/03/2007, at 1:34 PM, Lloyd White wrote: Hi Mac, I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective - and also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in my Junk folder. BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of orders for my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to check each spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose. Lloyd . Using Mail I employ " rules " which have been expanded until they catch 95% plus of junk and direct it into Junk mail box . Mailboxes have been set to show sender , addressee and subject . Just looking at the Junk mail box index I can pick the odd real message and drag to the inbox. NO need to read the junk , just clear the box with option Apple J and an OK . Bob
Re: Spam Filter.
Hi Mac, I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective - and also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in my Junk folder. BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of orders for my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to check each spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose. Lloyd . > Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to > Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first > employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent > me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email > which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :- > ( Is this the a common practice? > \ > Mac > Malcolm McCallum > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype docmactor > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Unsubscribe - <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lloyd White Write a Winning Job Application 3rd Edition. http://lloydwhite.iinet.net.au/ --
Spam Filter.
Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it. :- ( Is this the a common practice? \ Mac Malcolm McCallum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype docmactor