Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
Hi All, Well, it’s lot of talk … check this link for the new iPad speed test i Australia (Sydney), and other locations. http://9to5mac.com/2012/03/27/is-apple-falsely-advertising-4g-on-its-ipads-in-australia/#more-155846 Surprise surprise Telstra is not doing badly. Cheers, Peder On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
What the tech at Telstra couldn't sell you was a 4G LTE contract. However, what you do have is a sim that gets you on the 4G HSPA+ dual carrier network instead. The tech may have called it a 3G sim, but the ITU classifies it as 4G as well. As you say, it is pretty damn fast. Considering my home ADSL connection tops out at 2-3mbps, getting up to 42mbps on HSPA+ dual carrier on the iPad (so far up to 20mbps real-world speeds) on Telstra's NextG network is pretty astonishing when you think about it. -Mart On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. This is great news Martin. Very useful. I'll be watching the progress of the ACCC case with great interest now... Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
good news indeed. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:21 AM, Martin Hill wrote: What the tech at Telstra couldn't sell you was a 4G LTE contract. However, what you do have is a sim that gets you on the 4G HSPA+ dual carrier network instead. The tech may have called it a 3G sim, but the ITU classifies it as 4G as well. As you say, it is pretty damn fast. Considering my home ADSL connection tops out at 2-3mbps, getting up to 42mbps on HSPA+ dual carrier on the iPad (so far up to 20mbps real-world speeds) on Telstra's NextG network is pretty astonishing when you think about it. -Mart On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
ABC News 24 is headlining that the ACCC is taking Apple to court on the basis that Apple iPad 4G claims are misleading. http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Technology/2012/03/28/Apple_iPad_4G_claims_misleading-ACCC_733681.html I thought it was very clear from the launch that it would not work in AU. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:47 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: good news indeed. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:21 AM, Martin Hill wrote: What the tech at Telstra couldn't sell you was a 4G LTE contract. However, what you do have is a sim that gets you on the 4G HSPA+ dual carrier network instead. The tech may have called it a 3G sim, but the ITU classifies it as 4G as well. As you say, it is pretty damn fast. Considering my home ADSL connection tops out at 2-3mbps, getting up to 42mbps on HSPA+ dual carrier on the iPad (so far up to 20mbps real-world speeds) on Telstra's NextG network is pretty astonishing when you think about it. -Mart On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
H. It's kind of everyone splitting hairs. You can call Vivid 4G but it's not great coverage and not great speeds and note really what you expect of 4G. At the end of the day the iPad doesn't support 4G LTE and it will be either the next model(s) or we wait until 2015 when 700MHz becomes available. I don't think that Apple were misleading. It's not too different from the iPhone where we have 3G networks across the country on different frequencies. We couldn't use an iPhone on Optus or Vodafone 3G in Albany until the iPhone 4 because they used a different frequency. I don't know why Apple branded the models that way. Maybe could have just had iPad Wifi and iPad Wifi/Mobile (obviously their marketing dudes would come up with something sexier!). Great publicity though huh? Quoting Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com: ABC News 24 is headlining that the ACCC is taking Apple to court on the basis that Apple iPad 4G claims are misleading. http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Technology/2012/03/28/Apple_iPad_4G_claims_misleading-ACCC_733681.html I thought it was very clear from the launch that it would not work in AU. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:47 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: good news indeed. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:21 AM, Martin Hill wrote: What the tech at Telstra couldn't sell you was a 4G LTE contract. However, what you do have is a sim that gets you on the 4G HSPA+ dual carrier network instead. The tech may have called it a 3G sim, but the ITU classifies it as 4G as well. As you say, it is pretty damn fast. Considering my home ADSL connection tops out at 2-3mbps, getting up to 42mbps on HSPA+ dual carrier on the iPad (so far up to 20mbps real-world speeds) on Telstra's NextG network is pretty astonishing when you think about it. -Mart On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real world here in Australia. Telstra has also previously indicated they would be doubling the speed of HSPA+ DC to 84mbps using MIMO which would give it parity with the current generation of LTE. Only LTE Advanced theoretically offers greater than 100mbps. The iPad 4G is indeed 4G in Australia and the ACCC has no case. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
Re: The new iPad does work on 4G at 4G speeds in Australia
Apple willing to issue refunds to iPad buyers in Australia: /Quote: Offer comes after consumer commission finds Apple misled buyers by labeling the device as 4G-capable when it actually operates at a different frequency.” Apple is reportedly willing to offer refunds to iPad buyers in Australia who feel they were misled to believe the new tabletis capable of connecting to the 4G/LTE network Down Under. Apple senior counsel Paul Anastassiou told the Federal Court in Melbourne today that the company was prepared to offer refunds even though it had -- he said -- never claimed the new tablet would work fully on the 4G network in Australia operated by Telestra, according to variouspublished reports. Apple also proposed publishing a clarification regarding incompatibility issues on its Web site and at its stores. The revelation comes a day after the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission found Apple in violation of the Australian Consumer Law by misleadingly labeling its new iPad as 4G-capable and said it would try to get a court to impose fines and an injunction against sales. /End Quote Full article can be read here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57405581-37/apple-willing-to-issue-refunds-to-ipad-buyers-in-australia/?tag=mncol;editorPicks TinyURL if above link does not work: http://tinyurl.com/6qbhq9b Cheers, Ronni On 28/03/2012, at 10:26 AM, stuart.ev...@t4.com.au wrote: H. It's kind of everyone splitting hairs. You can call Vivid 4G but it's not great coverage and not great speeds and note really what you expect of 4G. At the end of the day the iPad doesn't support 4G LTE and it will be either the next model(s) or we wait until 2015 when 700MHz becomes available. I don't think that Apple were misleading. It's not too different from the iPhone where we have 3G networks across the country on different frequencies. We couldn't use an iPhone on Optus or Vodafone 3G in Albany until the iPhone 4 because they used a different frequency. I don't know why Apple branded the models that way. Maybe could have just had iPad Wifi and iPad Wifi/Mobile (obviously their marketing dudes would come up with something sexier!). Great publicity though huh? Quoting Adrian Skehan adrianske...@me.com: ABC News 24 is headlining that the ACCC is taking Apple to court on the basis that Apple iPad 4G claims are misleading. http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Technology/2012/03/28/Apple_iPad_4G_claims_misleading-ACCC_733681.html I thought it was very clear from the launch that it would not work in AU. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:47 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: good news indeed. --- Susan Hastings Mobile: 0409 688 004 susanhasti...@mac.com On 28/03/2012, at 8:21 AM, Martin Hill wrote: What the tech at Telstra couldn't sell you was a 4G LTE contract. However, what you do have is a sim that gets you on the 4G HSPA+ dual carrier network instead. The tech may have called it a 3G sim, but the ITU classifies it as 4G as well. As you say, it is pretty damn fast. Considering my home ADSL connection tops out at 2-3mbps, getting up to 42mbps on HSPA+ dual carrier on the iPad (so far up to 20mbps real-world speeds) on Telstra's NextG network is pretty astonishing when you think about it. -Mart On 28/03/2012, at 7:19 AM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.com wrote: Hi Martin, I'm using a 3G sim in a third generation iPad. I was told by someone in a Telstra shop that Telstra will not be issuing a 4g micro sim for the iPad because our version of the iPad does not support our version of 4g. So wondering if the iPad switches over to the faster network with the 3G sim. It does seem to be pretty fast. Cheers, Susan Sent from my iPad On 28/03/2012, at 12:08 AM, Martin Hill marth...@iinet.net.au wrote: Don't believe the noise on the interwebs - the new iPad does work on 4G frequencies and at 4G speeds in Australia. The International Telecommunications Union (ITU) defines 4G to include: - LTE (Long Term Evolution) - WiMax - HSPA+ dual carrier Vivid Wireless advertises their WiMax service which tops out at 4-5mbps around Australia as 4G. Telstra advertises their HSPA+ dual carrier service which is capable of running at speeds up to 42mps as 4G (as per the ITU). Already users are reporting real-world speeds of up to 20 Mbps in Sydney besting Vivid Wireless's 4G speeds by a factor of 4. At the moment, Telstra's LTE service is giving faster speeds in many tests, but just wait till the number of users increases to the sorts of numbers on the HSPA frequencies and you should see those speeds drop as LTE users (just like HSPA and WiMax) all share the same bandwidth to their local tower. In the USA, tests of 4G in New York top out at 20mbps - the same as what Tesltra HSPA+ dual carrier achieves in the real
