Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-08 Thread Paul van der Mey
Talking Firewire 800  400

I recenty picked up two Vantec NexStar MX dual bay drives with 2 x FW800, 1 x 
FW400 and 1 x USB.

Having a 27 iMac with one FW800 port and wanting to connect by FW to an old 
PowerBook G4 with only FW400 I thought I may be needing a FW800-400 cable.

Apparently not.
Connected the iMac by FW800 to one of the drives, then the drive by FW400 
(6-6pin) to the PowerBook. Boot into Target Disk mode and it shows up on the 
iMac :)

The benefit of connections that support daisy chaining...

Thank you

Paul van der Mey
p...@interactive-knowledge.biz
Mob. 0419 201 477




On 08/01/2010, at 10:59 AM, John Thompson wrote:

 Hi Neil,
   Thanks for the reply, also thanks to Paul, Joe and Mark for their ideas.
 
 My WD did come with one cable, FW400 to FW800, this worked for a short while 
 from my MacBook 400 port but then either the cable or the port stopped 
 functioning.  I have been using USB vrom both the Macbook and the Macmini 
 since then but would like to go back to Firewire.
 
 Will check out the options sent.
 
 Regards
 
 John Thompson
 On 08/01/2010, at 10:26 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I’m surprised the WD drive didn’t come with a FW800 cable (both my WD 
 drives, so far, came with both FW  USB cables).
 
 However, I’ve found places like Austin computers (Osborne Park) generally 
 carry a good range of cables – though their site at present only seems to 
 show FW400 and FW800 to FW400:
 
 http://www.austin.net.au/ProductList/tabid/103/Default.aspx?Category=CABLE+AND+CONNECTORSSubCategory=USB+%2f+Firewire+Cables
 
 I would have thought that any of the Mac sellers would be able to source 
 FW800 cables – as a comparison Streetwise (a well known online Mac shop) 
 offer, for example:
 
 http://www.streetwise.com.au/lacie-lacie-flat-cables-firewire-firewire-p-7224.html
 http://www.streetwise.com.au/generic-firewire-cable-firewire-9pin-firewire-9pin-p-2342.html
 
 plus longer cables – but they get quite expensive.
 
 Another local option is Harris Tech (Osborne Park  other locations) who 
 also seem slightly cheaper:
 
 http://www.ht.com.au/part/W5847-LaCie-Flat-Cables-Design-by-item-IEEE-1394-cable-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-6-PIN-FireWire-M-1.2-m-IEEE-1394-orange/detail.hts
 http://www.ht.com.au/part/X0430-Belkin-IEEE-1394-cable-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-1.8-m-IEEE-1394b-white/detail.hts
 
 
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 8/1/10 9:49 AM, John Thompson at jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 
 Interesting article James.
 As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2 
 Duo) which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig 
 external drive which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question; where 
 can I purchase an appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the two?  Tried 
 Dick Smith, Officeworks, and several other computer outlets in Morley, just 
 got the normal blank look we have come to expect from people who have been 
 immersed far too long in the PC/Windows world.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 John E. Thompson
 14 McGlew Street
 Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
 Ph. 08-92793524
 Mob. 0412 775 197
 Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au
 
 On 06/01/2010, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
 
 why apple is using fw800 interface
 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_which_is_faster.html
 quite interesting read
 James
 
  
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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-08 Thread James Devenish

Speaking of which,

Wishfully thinking, does any know of any economical, portable,
bus-powered external FireWire 800 enclosures for 2.5 hard drives?

James


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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-08 Thread Gavin Criddle

Hi James,

I've got cases from Zytech before.

http://zytech.com.au/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=EN25

Good products and good service!

Gav

On 09/01/2010, at 7:15 AM, James Devenish wrote:

 
 Speaking of which,
 
 Wishfully thinking, does any know of any economical, portable,
 bus-powered external FireWire 800 enclosures for 2.5 hard drives?
 
 James
 
 
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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-08 Thread James / Hans Kunz

sorry to say that:
i do not recommend bus powered hard drives, if you have more then one  
on the bus (usb or fw) you get strange crashes or freeze effects  
because of the limited power available on the bus system!which  
causes hds to fail/corrupt

James
On 09/01/2010, at 7:15, James Devenish wrote:



Speaking of which,

Wishfully thinking, does any know of any economical, portable,
bus-powered external FireWire 800 enclosures for 2.5 hard drives?

James


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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-07 Thread John Thompson
Interesting article James.
As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2 Duo) 
which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig external drive 
which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question; where can I purchase an 
appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the two?  Tried Dick Smith, 
Officeworks, and several other computer outlets in Morley, just got the normal 
blank look we have come to expect from people who have been immersed far too 
long in the PC/Windows world.

Thanks


John E. Thompson
14 McGlew Street
Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
Ph. 08-92793524
Mob. 0412 775 197
Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au

On 06/01/2010, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 why apple is using fw800 interface
 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_which_is_faster.html
 quite interesting read
 James
 
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RE: firewire vs usb

2010-01-07 Thread Paul Burke
Hi John,

 

Cablechick.com.au are always very competitive price wise. 

 

http://www.cablechick.com.au/cables?search_text=firewire+800go.x=0go.y
=0

 

Cheers

Paul

 

 



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Subject: Re: firewire vs usb

 

Interesting article James.

As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2
Duo) which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig
external drive which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question;
where can I purchase an appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the
two?  Tried Dick Smith, Officeworks, and several other computer outlets
in Morley, just got the normal blank look we have come to expect from
people who have been immersed far too long in the PC/Windows world.

 

Thanks

 

 

John E. Thompson

14 McGlew Street

Eden Hill  W.A.  6054

Ph. 08-92793524

Mob. 0412 775 197

Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au

 

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why apple is using fw800 interface

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_whi
ch_is_faster.html

quite interesting read

James

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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-07 Thread Joe Mastrella
Greetings! give Danial Kerr a calll at Mac Wizardry @ 04 1479-5960 and Craig
or Rob @ Max Style 80 9367-4691

Cheers, Joe

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:49 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 Interesting article James.
 As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2
 Duo) which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig
 external drive which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question; where
 can I purchase an appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the two?  Tried
 Dick Smith, Officeworks, and several other computer outlets in Morley, just
 got the normal blank look we have come to expect from people who have been
 immersed far too long in the PC/Windows world.

 Thanks


  John E. Thompson
 14 McGlew Street
 Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
 Ph. 08-92793524
 Mob. 0412 775 197
 Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au

 On 06/01/2010, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 why apple is using fw800 interface

 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_which_is_faster.html
 quite interesting read
 James

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 Video Productions, Electronic repairs
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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Secker
Dick Smiths should have them I¹ve certainly seen them at the city store a
earlier last year.
Failing that NextByte will stock them


On 8/01/10 9:49 AM, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 Interesting article James.
 As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2 Duo)
 which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig external
 drive which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question; where can I
 purchase an appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the two?  Tried Dick
 Smith, Officeworks, and several other computer outlets in Morley, just got the
 normal blank look we have come to expect from people who have been immersed
 far too long in the PC/Windows world.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 John E. Thompson
 14 McGlew Street
 Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
 Ph. 08-92793524
 Mob. 0412 775 197
 Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au
 
 On 06/01/2010, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
 
 why apple is using fw800 interface
 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_which_is
 _faster.html
 quite interesting read
 James
 
  
 SAD Technic
 Video Productions, Electronic repairs
 U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
 Bayswater WA 6053
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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-07 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi John,

I¹m surprised the WD drive didn¹t come with a FW800 cable (both my WD
drives, so far, came with both FW  USB cables).

However, I¹ve found places like Austin computers (Osborne Park) generally
carry a good range of cables ­ though their site at present only seems to
show FW400 and FW800 to FW400:

http://www.austin.net.au/ProductList/tabid/103/Default.aspx?Category=CABLE+
AND+CONNECTORSSubCategory=USB+%2f+Firewire+Cables

I would have thought that any of the Mac sellers would be able to source
FW800 cables ­ as a comparison Streetwise (a well known online Mac shop)
offer, for example:

http://www.streetwise.com.au/lacie-lacie-flat-cables-firewire-firewire-p-72
24.html
http://www.streetwise.com.au/generic-firewire-cable-firewire-9pin-firewire-
9pin-p-2342.html

plus longer cables ­ but they get quite expensive.

Another local option is Harris Tech (Osborne Park  other locations) who
also seem slightly cheaper:

http://www.ht.com.au/part/W5847-LaCie-Flat-Cables-Design-by-item-IEEE-1394-
cable-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-6-PIN-FireWire-M-1.2-m-IEEE-1394-orange/detail.ht
s
http://www.ht.com.au/part/X0430-Belkin-IEEE-1394-cable-9-pin-FireWire-800-M
-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-1.8-m-IEEE-1394b-white/detail.hts



HTH


Cheers



Neil
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on 8/1/10 9:49 AM, John Thompson at jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 Interesting article James.
 As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2 Duo)
 which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig external
 drive which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question; where can I
 purchase an appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the two?  Tried Dick
 Smith, Officeworks, and several other computer outlets in Morley, just got the
 normal blank look we have come to expect from people who have been immersed
 far too long in the PC/Windows world.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 John E. Thompson
 14 McGlew Street
 Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
 Ph. 08-92793524
 Mob. 0412 775 197
 Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au
 
 On 06/01/2010, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
 
 why apple is using fw800 interface
 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_which_is
 _faster.html
 quite interesting read
 James
 
  
 SAD Technic
 Video Productions, Electronic repairs
 U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
 Bayswater WA 6053
 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132
 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
 skype: barleeway
 over 40 years in electronics
 
 
  



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Re: firewire vs usb

2010-01-07 Thread John Thompson
Hi Neil,
Thanks for the reply, also thanks to Paul, Joe and Mark for their ideas.

My WD did come with one cable, FW400 to FW800, this worked for a short while 
from my MacBook 400 port but then either the cable or the port stopped 
functioning.  I have been using USB vrom both the Macbook and the Macmini since 
then but would like to go back to Firewire.

Will check out the options sent.

Regards

John Thompson
On 08/01/2010, at 10:26 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 I’m surprised the WD drive didn’t come with a FW800 cable (both my WD drives, 
 so far, came with both FW  USB cables).
 
 However, I’ve found places like Austin computers (Osborne Park) generally 
 carry a good range of cables – though their site at present only seems to 
 show FW400 and FW800 to FW400:
 
 http://www.austin.net.au/ProductList/tabid/103/Default.aspx?Category=CABLE+AND+CONNECTORSSubCategory=USB+%2f+Firewire+Cables
 
 I would have thought that any of the Mac sellers would be able to source 
 FW800 cables – as a comparison Streetwise (a well known online Mac shop) 
 offer, for example:
 
 http://www.streetwise.com.au/lacie-lacie-flat-cables-firewire-firewire-p-7224.html
 http://www.streetwise.com.au/generic-firewire-cable-firewire-9pin-firewire-9pin-p-2342.html
 
 plus longer cables – but they get quite expensive.
 
 Another local option is Harris Tech (Osborne Park  other locations) who also 
 seem slightly cheaper:
 
 http://www.ht.com.au/part/W5847-LaCie-Flat-Cables-Design-by-item-IEEE-1394-cable-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-6-PIN-FireWire-M-1.2-m-IEEE-1394-orange/detail.hts
 http://www.ht.com.au/part/X0430-Belkin-IEEE-1394-cable-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-9-pin-FireWire-800-M-1.8-m-IEEE-1394b-white/detail.hts
 
 
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 8/1/10 9:49 AM, John Thompson at jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 
 Interesting article James.
 As an aside to this, I have a Mac Mini (2.53GHz, 4 GB ram, Intel Core 2 Duo) 
 which has one Firewire 800 port.  I also have a WD MYbook 600Gig external 
 drive which has two Firewire 800 input ports.  My question; where can I 
 purchase an appropriate Firewire 800 cable to connect the two?  Tried Dick 
 Smith, Officeworks, and several other computer outlets in Morley, just got 
 the normal blank look we have come to expect from people who have been 
 immersed far too long in the PC/Windows world.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 John E. Thompson
 14 McGlew Street
 Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
 Ph. 08-92793524
 Mob. 0412 775 197
 Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au
 
 On 06/01/2010, at 10:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
 
 why apple is using fw800 interface
 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/firewire_vs_usb_which_is_faster.html
 quite interesting read
 James
 
  
 SAD Technic
 Video Productions, Electronic repairs
 U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
 Bayswater WA 6053
 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132
 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
 skype: barleeway
 over 40 years in electronics
 
 
  
 
 
 
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firewire vs usb

2010-01-05 Thread James / Hans Kunz

why apple is using fw800 interface
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185415/ 
firewire_vs_usb_which_is_faster.html

quite interesting read
James

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Bayswater WA 6053
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