Re: iMac SE issues
3 strikes before powering up, I have to reset it twice before the screen will come on and the chime happens Surging/flickering in speakers, they buzz and make a flickering sound even when the iMac is shut down and head phone in Visible screen refresh, the centre of the screen is clear but the edges seem to roll and quake. I think that has something to do with the kinks in the black cable that surround the CRT for some magnetic thing??? crashing in fullscreen mode for most Open GL games especially games that launch movies It is using an older IDE HD taken from a beige G3 and I received it dismantled so more than likely there's static discharge damage extra info: running 128MB RAM, OS 9.2, 4.2 GB HD rather than 13GB Anyone else had extreme issues like this or know what's the best option apart from part harvesting or trash? Is there hope? I'd try replacing the PRAM battery. But the screen rolling and quaking seems to indicate that the analogue board is dying/dead. Talk to Kat Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt
iMac SE issues
Hi All Anyone have any ideas what may be causing the following issues in an iMac DV SE and how to rectify them: 3 strikes before powering up, I have to reset it twice before the screen will come on and the chime happens Surging/flickering in speakers, they buzz and make a flickering sound even when the iMac is shut down and head phone in Visible screen refresh, the centre of the screen is clear but the edges seem to roll and quake. I think that has something to do with the kinks in the black cable that surround the CRT for some magnetic thing??? crashing in fullscreen mode for most Open GL games especially games that launch movies It is using an older IDE HD taken from a beige G3 and I received it dismantled so more than likely there's static discharge damage extra info: running 128MB RAM, OS 9.2, 4.2 GB HD rather than 13GB Anyone else had extreme issues like this or know what's the best option apart from part harvesting or trash? Is there hope? Regards Christian
Re: iMac SE issues
On 23/04/2005 11:53 PM, Christian Kotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Anyone have any ideas what may be causing the following issues in an iMac DV SE and how to rectify them: 3 strikes before powering up, I have to reset it twice before the screen will come on and the chime happens Surging/flickering in speakers, they buzz and make a flickering sound even when the iMac is shut down and head phone in Visible screen refresh, the centre of the screen is clear but the edges seem to roll and quake. I think that has something to do with the kinks in the black cable that surround the CRT for some magnetic thing??? crashing in fullscreen mode for most Open GL games especially games that launch movies It is using an older IDE HD taken from a beige G3 and I received it dismantled so more than likely there's static discharge damage extra info: running 128MB RAM, OS 9.2, 4.2 GB HD rather than 13GB Anyone else had extreme issues like this or know what's the best option apart from part harvesting or trash? Is there hope? Regards Christian By three strikes, if you mean three beeps, then this normally means bad RAM. If you've got 2 RAM chips in it then I would take one out. Otherwise I would take it out and replace it with another and see if it does the same thing. By the sound of it there may be other issues, but I would rule this one out first. :o) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh**
Re: iMac SE issues
on 24/04/05 01:09, Christian Kotz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry what I meant by three strikes is first I power it up and the HD moves to position but there is no tone or screen activity so I push the reset button and boot it again, by this stage the screen is on but no sound or HD activity. Third time/second reset it fires up with start up tone and OS loading. This is if the computer has been shut down and powerless for say over 10 minutes. No problems when restarting. When waking from sleep it also needs to be reset, otherwise just a black screen. As for the RAM it was a single 128 MB module but I swapped it with 2X 64 MB modules and no change. Also it has a fresh clock battery which I thought was flat and causing the problem but apparently not. Regards Christian On 23/04/2005, at 11:59 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 23/04/2005 11:53 PM, Christian Kotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Anyone have any ideas what may be causing the following issues in an iMac DV SE and how to rectify them: 3 strikes before powering up, I have to reset it twice before the screen will come on and the chime happens Surging/flickering in speakers, they buzz and make a flickering sound even when the iMac is shut down and head phone in Visible screen refresh, the centre of the screen is clear but the edges seem to roll and quake. I think that has something to do with the kinks in the black cable that surround the CRT for some magnetic thing??? crashing in fullscreen mode for most Open GL games especially games that launch movies It is using an older IDE HD taken from a beige G3 and I received it dismantled so more than likely there's static discharge damage extra info: running 128MB RAM, OS 9.2, 4.2 GB HD rather than 13GB Anyone else had extreme issues like this or know what's the best option apart from part harvesting or trash? Is there hope? Regards Christian Disclaimer: I am not a computer technician! When faultfinding electrical/electronic systems, if faced with symptoms like this (erratic operation in a few areas, not firing up at first) the first thing I'd want to rule out would be power supply problems - are all voltages as they should be and stable? - is some component/circuit on the way out and at the marginal stage - problems when cold and/or when under too much load, etc. To check though you would need to either be familiar with all the correct values expected/acceptable variations, have a working machine to compare with or have suitable spares to change out see if it fixes it. Maybe some Apple experienced tech could comment further or suggest what to check to rule this in or out. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Fax: +61 8 9841 6137 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iMac SE issues
When starting it up today, I was greeted by further bad news. The computer made 3 beep tones and the power light flashes three times in amber quite rapidly then changes to green, then back to the flashing amber. What does this mean? prior to this It also was crashing after loading Open Transport extension, then graphics accelerator extension and then when loading the desktop. It's sick that's for sure Regards Christian On 23/04/2005, at 11:59 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 23/04/2005 11:53 PM, Christian Kotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Anyone have any ideas what may be causing the following issues in an iMac DV SE and how to rectify them: 3 strikes before powering up, I have to reset it twice before the screen will come on and the chime happens Surging/flickering in speakers, they buzz and make a flickering sound even when the iMac is shut down and head phone in Visible screen refresh, the centre of the screen is clear but the edges seem to roll and quake. I think that has something to do with the kinks in the black cable that surround the CRT for some magnetic thing??? crashing in fullscreen mode for most Open GL games especially games that launch movies It is using an older IDE HD taken from a beige G3 and I received it dismantled so more than likely there's static discharge damage extra info: running 128MB RAM, OS 9.2, 4.2 GB HD rather than 13GB Anyone else had extreme issues like this or know what's the best option apart from part harvesting or trash? Is there hope? Regards Christian By three strikes, if you mean three beeps, then this normally means bad RAM. If you've got 2 RAM chips in it then I would take one out. Otherwise I would take it out and replace it with another and see if it does the same thing. By the sound of it there may be other issues, but I would rule this one out first. :o) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: iMac SE issues
On 24/04/2005, at 3:02 PM, Christian Kotz wrote: When starting it up today, I was greeted by further bad news. The computer made 3 beep tones and the power light flashes three times in amber quite rapidly then changes to green, then back to the flashing amber. What does this mean? prior to this It also was crashing after loading Open Transport extension, then graphics accelerator extension and then when loading the desktop. It's sick that's for sure Regards Christian On 23/04/2005, at 11:59 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 23/04/2005 11:53 PM, Christian Kotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Anyone have any ideas what may be causing the following issues in an iMac DV SE and how to rectify them: 3 strikes before powering up, I have to reset it twice before the screen will come on and the chime happens Surging/flickering in speakers, they buzz and make a flickering sound even when the iMac is shut down and head phone in Visible screen refresh, the centre of the screen is clear but the edges seem to roll and quake. I think that has something to do with the kinks in the black cable that surround the CRT for some magnetic thing??? crashing in fullscreen mode for most Open GL games especially games that launch movies It is using an older IDE HD taken from a beige G3 and I received it dismantled so more than likely there's static discharge damage extra info: running 128MB RAM, OS 9.2, 4.2 GB HD rather than 13GB Anyone else had extreme issues like this or know what's the best option apart from part harvesting or trash? Is there hope? Regards Christian By three strikes, if you mean three beeps, then this normally means bad RAM. If you've got 2 RAM chips in it then I would take one out. Otherwise I would take it out and replace it with another and see if it does the same thing. By the sound of it there may be other issues, but I would rule this one out first. :o) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel Hi Christian, As Daniel has already said, Three Beeps: No RAM banks passed memory testing. Bad RAM. : Replace the existing SDRAM one DIMM at a time with known-good PC-100 SDRAM. Cheers, Ronni When Microsoft asks you, Where do you want to go today? Tell them, Apple!
Re: iMac SE issues
Ronda Brown wrote: On 24/04/2005, at 3:02 PM, Christian Kotz wrote: When starting it up today, I was greeted by further bad news. The computer made 3 beep tones and the power light flashes three times in amber quite rapidly then changes to green, then back to the flashing amber. What does this mean? prior to this It also was crashing after loading Open Transport extension, then graphics accelerator extension and then when loading the desktop. It's sick that's for sure elsnipo As Daniel has already said, Three Beeps: No RAM banks passed memory testing. Bad RAM. : Replace the existing SDRAM one DIMM at a time with known-good PC-100 SDRAM. Cheers, Ronni When Microsoft asks you, Where do you want to go today? Tell them, Apple! I would also get the power supply checked out, to me (without opening the box) I would say it is suffering, and is not providing the grunt it needs to start, if the HDD you are running is an older one (more than 2-3 years) the bearings will be wearing and the grease starts to go hard when cold, trying to get them to spin up with a PSU that is not in good shape can take a few tries (alot of IBM eng's will know this one from the old days of spinning up HDD's that had not been used in months, sometimes you would have to physically spin the drive with no platters by hand about 20 -30 revolutions just to get it to run ;( If you need help in testing the PSU, phone me on 0419 923 731. Regards, Kat.
Re: iMac SE issues
I would also get the power supply checked out, to me (without opening the box) I would say it is suffering, and is not providing the grunt it needs to start, if the HDD you are running is an older one (more than 2-3 years) the bearings will be wearing and the grease starts to go hard when cold, trying to get them to spin up with a PSU that is not in good shape can take a few tries (alot of IBM eng's will know this one from the old days of spinning up HDD's that had not been used in months, sometimes you would have to physically spin the drive with no platters by hand about 20 -30 revolutions just to get it to run ;( ah that takes me back to the old days of the other Apple SE the SE 30... they also had hard disks that used to suffer from a similar complaint - both mine and the ones at work once they got on in the years would often need to be perched up on a gas lift chair and then you'd spin the chair as rapidly as you'd dare and after a couple of revolutions quickly and forcefully grab SE and (obviously) stop it from spinning, then put back on the desk and boot it up... tell that to kids these days and will they belive you? -- ~ Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9380 2308 (GSE) 9380 1855 (ECEL) ECEL Computer Support Officer, University of Western Australia. CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore. Andre Gide Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO Hunter S Thompson(?)
Re: iMac SE issues
This may not be helpful but is amusing. This problem reminds me of a 40 mb external drive I had many years ago that wouldn't spin up, I drilled a hole through the outer and inner case that were aligned with the edge of the disk at an oblique angle, to start it I would give it a prod with a knitting needle, it was still working a couple of years later when I passed on to someone else. On 24/04/2005, at 5:09 PM, Mark Secker wrote: I would also get the power supply checked out, to me (without opening the box) I would say it is suffering, and is not providing the grunt it needs to start, if the HDD you are running is an older one (more than 2-3 years) the bearings will be wearing and the grease starts to go hard when cold, trying to get them to spin up with a PSU that is not in good shape can take a few tries (alot of IBM eng's will know this one from the old days of spinning up HDD's that had not been used in months, sometimes you would have to physically spin the drive with no platters by hand about 20 -30 revolutions just to get it to run ;( ah that takes me back to the old days of the other Apple SE the SE 30... they also had hard disks that used to suffer from a similar complaint - both mine and the ones at work once they got on in the years would often need to be perched up on a gas lift chair and then you'd spin the chair as rapidly as you'd dare and after a couple of revolutions quickly and forcefully grab SE and (obviously) stop it from spinning, then put back on the desk and boot it up... tell that to kids these days and will they belive you? -- ~ Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9380 2308 (GSE) 9380 1855 (ECEL) ECEL Computer Support Officer, University of Western Australia. CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore. Andre Gide Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO Hunter S Thompson(?) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
