Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter, Tim & Tony,
I’m confused by Tony’s original comments & replies???

Recovering deleted notes from Recently Deleted
Remember that the Notes app has a Recently Deleted folder. The keyword here 
being “recently,” as the Notes app will only keep these notes for 30 days. 
After 30 days have passed, it will permanently delete them.

Open the Notes app, and tap Recently Deleted from the account that you want to 
recover.
Tap Edit in the upper-right corner.
Select the notes you want to recover.
Tap Move To in the lower-left corner.
Select the folder that you want to move the note to.
Kind regards,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 31 Dec 2018, at 9:03 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2018, at 8:53 am, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> Peter I appreciate using iCloud but if a Note is deleted from one device, 
>> then it is deleted on all, amplifying the problem 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Tim 
>> 
> 
> True enough, but Tony’s wife's notes were duplicated on her iPad, indicating 
> that iCloud must have been involved, unless the notes were duplicated 
> manually, which I think is unlikely. Altogether a difficult scenario to 
> understand from a remote standpoint.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 31 Dec 2018, at 8:53 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Peter I appreciate using iCloud but if a Note is deleted from one device, 
> then it is deleted on all, amplifying the problem 
> 
> Regards
> Tim 
> 

True enough, but Tony’s wife's notes were duplicated on her iPad, indicating 
that iCloud must have been involved, unless the notes were duplicated manually, 
which I think is unlikely. Altogether a difficult scenario to understand from a 
remote standpoint.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Tim Law]

Peter I appreciate using iCloud but if a Note is deleted from one device, then 
it is deleted on all, amplifying the problem 

Regards
Tim 

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2018, at 8:30 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2018, at 8:09 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Peter, sorry that I wasn’t clear enough. Lynette was working in 
>> Notes and information that she had put into Notes had disappeared, without 
>> thinking I suggested opening the rubbish to check on it’s contents, as soon 
>> as Lynette hit the Bin icon everything was deleted.
>> The outcome is that Lynette had the same Notes duplicated on her iPad, so 
>> all good. A lesson learnt, ask the question, do a search BEFORE touching the 
>> Bin!!!
>> 
>> Thank you Peter
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony Francis
>> 
>> Boddington
> 
> 
> OK, I think that clears up the point of confusion. The Bin icon in Notes does 
> not open a deleted files repository as it does in the Finder on the Mac. It 
> simply deleted WHATEVER IS CURRENTLY SELECTED. In your wife’s case that would 
> have been the latest note she had just created/edited. It’s the legacy of not 
> having a “Desktop” in iOS. Anyway, your experience does point out the benefit 
> of having iCloud configured across your devices.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 31 Dec 2018, at 8:09 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Peter, sorry that I wasn’t clear enough. Lynette was working in 
> Notes and information that she had put into Notes had disappeared, without 
> thinking I suggested opening the rubbish to check on it’s contents, as soon 
> as Lynette hit the Bin icon everything was deleted.
> The outcome is that Lynette had the same Notes duplicated on her iPad, so all 
> good. A lesson learnt, ask the question, do a search BEFORE touching the 
> Bin!!!
> 
> Thank you Peter
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony Francis
> 
> Boddington


OK, I think that clears up the point of confusion. The Bin icon in Notes does 
not open a deleted files repository as it does in the Finder on the Mac. It 
simply deleted WHATEVER IS CURRENTLY SELECTED. In your wife’s case that would 
have been the latest note she had just created/edited. It’s the legacy of not 
having a “Desktop” in iOS. Anyway, your experience does point out the benefit 
of having iCloud configured across your devices.


Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Thank you Peter, sorry that I wasn’t clear enough. Lynette was working in Notes 
and information that she had put into Notes had disappeared, without thinking I 
suggested opening the rubbish to check on it’s contents, as soon as Lynette hit 
the Bin icon everything was deleted.
The outcome is that Lynette had the same Notes duplicated on her iPad, so all 
good. A lesson learnt, ask the question, do a search BEFORE touching the Bin!!!

Thank you Peter

Kind Regards

Tony Francis

Boddington

> On 31 Dec 2018, at 7:49 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2018, at 11:51 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Guy’s
>> 
>> Just a query, with fingers crossed. My Wife accidentally put her “Notes” 
>> into the ‘Bin’, I suggested that she open the Bin to see what was in there 
>> and remove what she wanted, as soon as she hit the Bin everything was 
>> deleted, so, is it at all possible to retrieve the rubbish or has it all 
>> gone forever??
>> 
>> Thanks all
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony
> 
> Not sure what’s happened here. There is no “bin” on an iPhone, akin to the 
> Trash can on Mac or the “Recycle Bin” on Windows, so I’m not sure what Bin it 
> was that she hit. When you delete files on an iPhone they get deleted, but 
> that’s usually by tapping a specific “Delete” button within an App, so I’m 
> not at all sure how your wife manage to put her Notes “into the Bin”. There 
> are 3rd party apps which can deal with deleted files recovery, but from your 
> description I can really offer any constructive advice because I can’t 
> visualise what might have happened. 
> 
> Your first and best resource is your most recent iPhone backup, but if that 
> hasn’t been done in a while then you’ll lose any recent data when you try to 
> restore from the backup. Sorry I can’t be  of more help here.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 28 Dec 2018, at 11:51 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guy’s
> 
> Just a query, with fingers crossed. My Wife accidentally put her “Notes” into 
> the ‘Bin’, I suggested that she open the Bin to see what was in there and 
> remove what she wanted, as soon as she hit the Bin everything was deleted, 
> so, is it at all possible to retrieve the rubbish or has it all gone 
> forever??
> 
> Thanks all
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony

Not sure what’s happened here. There is no “bin” on an iPhone, akin to the 
Trash can on Mac or the “Recycle Bin” on Windows, so I’m not sure what Bin it 
was that she hit. When you delete files on an iPhone they get deleted, but 
that’s usually by tapping a specific “Delete” button within an App, so I’m not 
at all sure how your wife manage to put her Notes “into the Bin”. There are 3rd 
party apps which can deal with deleted files recovery, but from your 
description I can really offer any constructive advice because I can’t 
visualise what might have happened. 

Your first and best resource is your most recent iPhone backup, but if that 
hasn’t been done in a while then you’ll lose any recent data when you try to 
restore from the backup. Sorry I can’t be  of more help here.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Fwd: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hiya

In case anyone missed the Subject, Lynette was on her iPhone 6

Cheers All

Tony

Boddington

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> From: "Anthony (Tony) Francis" 
> Subject: Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin
> Date: 28 December 2018 at 11:51:21 am AWST
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> 
> Hi Guy’s
> 
> Just a query, with fingers crossed. My Wife accidentally put her “Notes” into 
> the ‘Bin’, I suggested that she open the Bin to see what was in there and 
> remove what she wanted, as soon as she hit the Bin everything was deleted, 
> so, is it at all possible to retrieve the rubbish or has it all gone 
> forever??
> 
> Thanks all
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony
> 
> Boddington
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Re: iPhone Rubbish Bin

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hi Guy’s

Just a query, with fingers crossed. My Wife accidentally put her “Notes” into 
the ‘Bin’, I suggested that she open the Bin to see what was in there and 
remove what she wanted, as soon as she hit the Bin everything was deleted, 
so, is it at all possible to retrieve the rubbish or has it all gone 
forever??

Thanks all

Kind Regards

Tony

Boddington
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