Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
On 13/7/04 6:10 PM, Christian Kotz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To avoid the whole blowing up motherboards and spontaneous combustion of other parts, why not settle for a nice iBook SE 466mhz. It has firewire therefore can charge your iPod and it's battery does last longer apparently. There's a few of them for under $500 on ebay but a lot of people still like the model so when selling it could get more. I'm using a Lime currently and it does me fine for tasks similar to yours as well as more demanding and it's case is sturdy for travel. Acting as a portable DVD player is a nice feature too. They've all been on lease or something so they should be a little looked after. I prefer them over the 500mhz. Stick to a 500 or up if you can. Even though the clamshells are much more sturdy, you'll kick yourself after a day running OS X at 800x600 :-) I would say $500 is a good price for you, $550 tops. Now that they are 4 years old, there is a good chance some of them will be coming out of lease in the next few months, so the seller could be stuck with something that will get her half of what she originally asked for. Same thing happened to the clamshells when they came out of lease and flooded ebay. Seeya Rod!
pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
anybody want to offer their 2cents on this quandary please feel welcome. I have the need to acquire for a month a small (say 12) laptop preferably Apple brand. My needs are simple - a small tough laptop for travel purposes that simply needs to do e-mail, word processing, downloading pictures from a digital camera - a bonus would to keep my iPod charged without needing a second power point. Given the cost of hiring, bond (deposit), insurance etc I've decided that it would probably be cheaper and easier to buy before I go and then sell it when I get back and at a low enough price (below $700) it can be added to my existing travel insurance without updating my policy. I have a couple of work colleagues who each have identically specked original 2001 snow 12.1 G3 iBook (code name P29) 500Mhz, 128 MB, 10GB, CD-ROM (no burner) original purchase academic staff price would have been about $2000ish. One of them wants $700 for it - which is, in my mind is more than just a bit too much for a 4 year old laptop that even in its day was entry level. The other owner is undecided about if she want's to sell _right_ now. As I plan to purchase this week I may not be able to acquire it soon enough. The first person has given me e-bay action bid details and to be quite blunt it only shows how thick some people are as some of these bids are for more than the cost of a new G4 iBook. Speaking to some of other mac experts wasn't all that helpful, While I was in X-World the guys in Syndey wer saying $200 up to $250 tops. but a couple of apple guys here I've spoken to here are saying $500 to buy -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
I have a couple of work colleagues who each have identically specked original 2001 snow 12.1 G3 iBook (code name P29) 500Mhz, 128 MB, 10GB, CD-ROM (no burner) original purchase academic staff price would have been about $2000ish. One of them wants $700 for it - which is, in my mind is more than just a bit too much for a 4 year old laptop that even in its day was entry level. The other owner is undecided about if she want's to sell _right_ now. As I plan to purchase this week I may not be able to acquire it soon enough. The first person has given me e-bay action bid details and to be quite blunt it only shows how thick some people are as some of these bids are for more than the cost of a new G4 iBook. Speaking to some of other mac experts wasn't all that helpful, While I was in X-World the guys in Syndey wer saying $200 up to $250 tops. but a couple of apple guys here I've spoken to here are saying $500 to buy The monetary worth of something is what it costs to replace it. What the market will bear is best reflected on eBay, the authoritative source of all pricing information in our capitalist economic rationalist society :) http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4606item=5106639123rd=1 The one I can see there is $570 with a days left of bidding to go, so $250 would seem a bit unreasonable (to the seller :). It's also possible it might hit $700 in the next day. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
Speaking to some of other mac experts wasn't all that helpful, While I was in X-World the guys in Syndey wer saying $200 up to $250 tops. but a couple of apple guys here I've spoken to here are saying $500 to buy The monetary worth of something is what it costs to replace it. What the market will bear is best reflected on eBay, the authoritative source of all pricing information in our capitalist economic rationalist society :) actually it real value is the value which a seller and buy agree upon the sellers opinion is I payed good hard cash for this and I don't see why I can't get more than half the new price for it. (as an aside the specific person salary packaged a new TiBook a couple of years ago and has just in the last few months salary packaged a 17 AlBook so to them the iBook is 2 time over obsolete machine that even their kids don't want to use - which was their reason for selling it. my opinion, speaking from the voice of experience of supporting obsolete hardware, is that a 4 years old, out performed 4 to 8 times over by a new laptop that's half the price of this ones original RRP, no warranty, unknown or dubious history, the next time its powered up it could blow a logicboard or a $200 battery or a $800 screen (or some other part that's not available anymore) is simply not worth me expending a week and a bit's salary on. Just in the time I've taken to respond to this e-mail the school admin officer has rung me to tell me that they have sold 2 PowerBook G3s one for $70 and another for $100 and my personal opinion is good riddance - one's just had the PRAM and main battery die and the other is been gotten rid of simply because of it's age I'd take on of those if they were not dead weight bricks. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4606item=5106639123rd=1 The one I can see there is $570 with a days left of bidding to go, so $250 would seem a bit unreasonable (to the seller :). It's also possible it might hit $700 in the next day. The stupidity of e-bay sellers and bidders never fails to amuse and confound me a seller who describes the FireWire and external monitor ports as two other similar shaped ports, I have no idea what they are I tell you I'd not feel comfortable biding sight unseen on something sold by some one with that level of user knowledge. Also the resale value 6 months ago of $1500 was for run out stock of the 800 900 Mhz G3 iBooks I know because with educational pricing they were $1100 and i thought about getting one with my tax return. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
no no no not knocking and appreciate the opinion... may be I was just needed to rant a bit. I know I'd probably over price my PowerBook when it come time to part with it. I tell you I'd not feel comfortable biding sight unseen on something sold by some one with that level of user knowledge. Also the resale value 6 months ago of $1500 was for run out stock of the 800 900 Mhz G3 iBooks I know because with educational pricing they were $1100 and i thought about getting one with my tax return. Well, you did ask for 2c worth of advice, which is what I gave :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
To avoid the whole blowing up motherboards and spontaneous combustion of other parts, why not settle for a nice iBook SE 466mhz. It has firewire therefore can charge your iPod and it's battery does last longer apparently. There's a few of them for under $500 on ebay but a lot of people still like the model so when selling it could get more. I'm using a Lime currently and it does me fine for tasks similar to yours as well as more demanding and it's case is sturdy for travel. Acting as a portable DVD player is a nice feature too. They've all been on lease or something so they should be a little looked after. I prefer them over the 500mhz. Regards Christian On 13/07/2004, at 12:12 PM, Mark Secker wrote: no no no not knocking and appreciate the opinion... may be I was just needed to rant a bit. I know I'd probably over price my PowerBook when it come time to part with it. I tell you I'd not feel comfortable biding sight unseen on something sold by some one with that level of user knowledge. Also the resale value 6 months ago of $1500 was for run out stock of the 800 900 Mhz G3 iBooks I know because with educational pricing they were $1100 and i thought about getting one with my tax return. Well, you did ask for 2c worth of advice, which is what I gave :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: pricing a S/H P29 G3 iBook
To avoid the whole blowing up motherboards and spontaneous combustion of other parts, why not settle for a nice iBook SE 466mhz. As much as I like the clam shell iMacs stylistically there is the slight problem that it comes in at 3.1 KG v's the snow's 2.2 KG dimension wise the clams are 2 cm longer and taller and a massive 11 cm deeper (front to back) As a lot of my traveling is me with hiking boots and a backpack (with in which a laptop will have to share space with a tent, sleeping bag, a weeks worth of cloths and food and a camp stove) walking..., and the rest is Japanese commuter rail hitch hiking so minimizing weight and dimensions is critical. -- ~ Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph#6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ Only he who attempts the absurd is capable of achieving the impossible. - Miguel de Unamuno It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://ecel-mark.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~marksecker/index.htm (sometimes works)
