Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-07 Terurut Topik Trulee Khadija
Hi.. Salam kenal utk semua.,
Saya baru ikutan milist ini.. Seru juga.. Oh ya, saya udah nikah
hampir 10tahun, dan mungkin ngga masuk kategori subur karna Allah
belum izinkan kami berdua utk punya baby..

To tell you the truth, keinginan berselingkuh sptnya bukan cuma faktor
subur ngga subur.. Tapi lebih pada pemenuhan bathiniah istri.. Apa
suami tetap menunjukkan kasih dan perhatian yg sama, malah mungkin
bertambah, setelah sekian lama menikah. Kalo udah gini.. ngapain juga
selingkuh kan? Kecuali kalo suami tambah cuek, mengeluh ini itu,
tambah tua tambah genit.. ke perempuan lain tentunya.. Nh..
kemungkinan utk perempuan cari kehangatan lain, bisa jadi terbuka
lebar..

But.. Women are tough.. The last thing they have in their mind is
cheating.. There so many cases where women with bunches of children
being cheated by their husbands.. but they keep trying to save the
marriage..

Jadi, klise-nya sih.. balik ke diri masing2 ya.. Truly sorry kalo ada
hal2 yg kurang berkenan..

Cheers..

On 7/7/08, Mia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Diskusi ini kan semacam proses sexual selection. hanya cowok2 yang
> berani saja nantinya yang masuk seleksi. hahahaha:-)
>
> salam
> Mia
>
> --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, candle light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Syerem amat sih diskusiin prselingkuhan? Ane blm nikah jd mkn takut
> aja nih.. Khawatir mmg sdh tdk ada ikhwah yg setia lg. Hiks...
>>
>> Mia wrote:
>> > Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur
> lebih riskan
>> > selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali.
>
>
>


Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-06 Terurut Topik IrwanK
Lah kan biasanya gitu.. gak usah banyak komentar deh..
jangan sotoy.. bla bla bla.. :-p
hehehehe..

Wassalam,

Irwan.K

Pada 7 Juli 2008 11:16, Mia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>   lutuye...
> maskutnya punya nyali diskusi, bukan nyali selingkuh...
> :-)
>
> salam
> Mia
>
>
> --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com ,
> IrwanK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Maksudnya yang ikutan diskusi harus punya pengalaman selingkuh,  mbak?
> :-p
> >
> > Wassalam,
> >
> > Irwan.K
> > Jakarta, Indonesia
> > http://irwank.blogspot.com
> >
> > Pada 7 Juli 2008 10:37, Mia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> >
> > > Diskusi ini kan semacam proses sexual selection. hanya cowok2
> yang
> > > berani saja nantinya yang masuk seleksi. hahahaha:-)
> > >
> > > salam
> > > Mia
> > >
> > > --- In 
> > > wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > candle light 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Syerem amat sih diskusiin prselingkuhan? Ane blm nikah jd mkn
> takut
> > > aja nih.. Khawatir mmg sdh tdk ada ikhwah yg setia lg. Hiks...
> > > >
> > > > Mia wrote:
> > > > > Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur
> > > lebih riskan
> > > > > selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali.
>


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[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-06 Terurut Topik Mia
lutuye...
maskutnya punya nyali diskusi, bukan nyali selingkuh...
:-)

salam
Mia

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, IrwanK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maksudnya yang ikutan diskusi harus punya pengalaman selingkuh, 
mbak? :-p
> 
> Wassalam,
> 
> Irwan.K
> Jakarta, Indonesia
> http://irwank.blogspot.com
> 
> Pada 7 Juli 2008 10:37, Mia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> 
> >   Diskusi ini kan semacam proses sexual selection. hanya cowok2 
yang
> > berani saja nantinya yang masuk seleksi. hahahaha:-)
> >
> > salam
> > Mia
> >
> > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com ,
> > candle light 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Syerem amat sih diskusiin prselingkuhan? Ane blm nikah jd mkn 
takut
> > aja nih.. Khawatir mmg sdh tdk ada ikhwah yg setia lg. Hiks...
> > >
> > > Mia wrote:
> > > > Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur
> > lebih riskan
> > > > selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali.
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-06 Terurut Topik IrwanK
Maksudnya yang ikutan diskusi harus punya pengalaman selingkuh, mbak? :-p

Wassalam,

Irwan.K
Jakarta, Indonesia
http://irwank.blogspot.com

Pada 7 Juli 2008 10:37, Mia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>   Diskusi ini kan semacam proses sexual selection. hanya cowok2 yang
> berani saja nantinya yang masuk seleksi. hahahaha:-)
>
> salam
> Mia
>
> --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com ,
> candle light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Syerem amat sih diskusiin prselingkuhan? Ane blm nikah jd mkn takut
> aja nih.. Khawatir mmg sdh tdk ada ikhwah yg setia lg. Hiks...
> >
> > Mia wrote:
> > > Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur
> lebih riskan
> > > selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali.
>


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[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-06 Terurut Topik Mia
Diskusi ini kan semacam proses sexual selection. hanya cowok2 yang 
berani saja nantinya yang masuk seleksi. hahahaha:-)

salam
Mia

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, candle light <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Syerem amat sih diskusiin prselingkuhan? Ane blm nikah jd mkn takut 
aja nih.. Khawatir mmg sdh tdk ada ikhwah yg setia lg. Hiks...
> 
> Mia wrote: 
> > Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur 
lebih riskan 
> > selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali. 




RE: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-05 Terurut Topik candle light
Syerem amat sih diskusiin prselingkuhan? Ane blm nikah jd mkn takut aja nih.. 
Khawatir mmg sdh tdk ada ikhwah yg setia lg. Hiks...

Mia wrote: 
> Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur lebih riskan 
> selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali. 
> Karena keputusan selingkuh itu kan macem-macem, masak mo selingkuh 
> kepikiran sexual selection, genetic variability, competitive 
> spermkeburu capek deh.. 
> - karena slingkuh itu indah 
> - karena hidupku hampa 
> - karena isteri/suamiku mengacuhkan diriku.. 
> - karena torn between two lovers 
> - karena jadikan aku yang kedua 
> - karena kau yang terbaik untukku 
> - karena kaulah segalanya (maksutnya punya segala..:-) 
> DWS:Entah apa penelitian berikut bisa menjelaskan fenomena mutakhir 
> perselingkuhan bukan untuk menciptakan keturunan (ente bisa babak 
> belur kalo selingkuh terus hamil hehehe). 
> salam 
> Mia 
> --- In wanita-muslimah@ yahoogroups. com , "Dwi W. Soegardi" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: 
>> 
>> 2008/7/4 Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: 
>> > Bung DWS 
>> > 
>> > This is the beauty of nature's design. 
>> > It is all about the survival of the fittest. 
>> 
>> hola Bang Dan, 
>> como estas? 
>> viva espana ni ye hehehehe 
>> 
>> tadinya saya ngga begitu 'ngeh' dengan komentar Anda, 
>> rupanya itulah yang bahan penelitian para pakar biologi 
>> terutama "behavioral biology." 
>> 
>> Sudah lama para peneliti mencari jawaban atas 
>> mengapa pria dan wanita berselingkuh. 
>> Konon, soal pria lebih mudah jawabannya, 
>> sedangkan soal wanita memang terkait erat dengan kesuburan 
> (fertility). 
>> 
>> Menurut salah satu hasil penelitian majalah New Scientist, 
> perselingkuhan pria: 
>> === 
>> Male infidelity has always been easy to explain. Fertilising a 
> female 
>> takes relatively little time and energy, so a male can father a lot 
> of 
>> children quickly and easily. The more females a male mates with, the 
>> more descendants he will have. His genes - including any that 
> promote 
>> such 'promiscuity' - will become widespread. 
>> === 
>> 
>> Sedangkan, perselingkuhan wanita: 
>> === 
>> ... females mate with several males because this allows them to 
>> pit the sperm of different males against each other in their 
>> reproductive tracts. In this way, they ensure that they are 
> fertilised 
>> by the best-quality sperm. 
>> (Mark Bellis and Robin Baker of the University of Manchester) 
>> === 
>> 
>> Terima kasih, bang Dan, tampaknya memang saya 
>> harus banyak belajar kepada pakarnya, terutama pakar selingkuh 
> hehehehe. 
>> 
>> silakan menyimak salah satu penjelasan biologi tingkah-laku berikut 
> ini. 
>> Dengan google (misal keyword "fertile, infidelity") bisa pula 
> didapati 
>> banyak artikel lain. 
>> 
>> Entah apa penelitian berikut bisa menjelaskan fenomena mutakhir 
>> perselingkuhan bukan untuk menciptakan keturunan (ente bisa babak 
>> belur kalo selingkuh terus hamil hehehe). 
>> 
>> http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/mg129175 23.000-science- female- 
> infidelity-- may-the-best- sperm-win- .html 
>> 
>> Science: Female infidelity - may the best sperm win 
>> 
>> * 19 January 1991 
>> * From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free 
> issues. 
>> * GEORGIA MASON 
>> 
>> 
>> Why are so many females unfaithful to their partners? Two-timing 
> would 
>> not seem to have the advantages for them that it has males. A pair 
> of 
>> British zoologists think they know why it has evolved. 
>> 
>> Mark Bellis and Robin Baker of the University of Manchester say 
>> females mate with several males because this allows them to pit the 
>> sperm of different males against each other in their reproductive 
>> tracts. In this way, they ensure that they are fertilised by the 
>> best-quality sperm. 
>> 
>> Male infidelity has always been easy to explain. Fertilising a 
> female 
>> takes relatively little time and energy, so a male can father a lot 
> of 
>> children quickly and easily. The more females a male mates with, the 
>> more descendants he will have. His genes - including any that 
> promote 
>> such 'promiscuity' - will become widespread. 
>> 
>> Females, on the other hand, must devote a lot of time and energy to 
>> each of their young, from producing the original egg, through 
>> nurturing the fetus, to looking after the offspring until it becomes 
>> independent. This means that the number of young a female can 
> produce 
>> is limited. She does not need to mate very often in order to 
> reproduce 
>> at her maximum possible rate. 
>> 
>> More important to a female than the number of times she copulates is 
>> the quality of the males. She will increase the number of her 
>> descendants if she chooses a male who can increase the success of 
> her 
>> offspring - by helping to rear them, or by passing on to them genes 
>> that make them big, strong or attractive. Females are, therefore, 
>> choosy when it comes to selecting a mate. 
>> 
>> But if qua

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-05 Terurut Topik bmuncar
Cermat juga Pak Dwi ini. Dalam dunia internet, jumlah "click" mungkin 
menjadi Dewa, spt rating di dunia televisi. Akhirnya pengelola situs 
internet bikin judul bombastis supaya mendapat banyak "click". FYI, 
antara kompas cetak sama kompas.com, pengelolanya beda. Di kompas.com 
ada pemrednya sendiri. Salam

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Dwi W. Soegardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
..> wrote:
>
> 2008/7/4 bmuncar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Setahu saya untuk edisi online, Pak. Beda visi kali antara 
pemegang
> > cetak sama online.
> >
> > Salam
> 
> Terima kasih pak,
> tampaknya begitu.
> Kalau baca artikelnya, masih mendinglah, bahkan masih layak untuk
> masuk rubrik Sains atau ilmu pengetahuan. Kan itu hasil penelitian,
> meskipun wartawannya mesti kreatif untuk mencari bahan tambahan, 
hasil
> penelitian yang mungkin berbeda kesimpulannya.
> Masalahnya penjudulannya menggunakan kata DOYAN SELINGKUH.
> waduh, apa pula ini? Ini bener tulisan wartawan Kompas dan sudah 
lewat
> tangan Pemrednya?
> (Seharusnya "Mengapa Perempuan Selingkuh di Kala Subur")
> 
> Mungkin saya berharap terlalu banyak,
> sebab media lain seperti Jawa Pos, detikcom,
> kalo buka Rubrik Wanita, isinya tidak jauh berbeda.
> 
> salam,
> 
> > --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Dwi W. Soegardi"
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> 2008/7/3 Dwi W. Soegardi :
> >> > Sejak berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
> >>
> >> Maaf, tadi belum selesai menulis pengantar, sudah terkirim :-(
> >> Seharusnya:
> >>
> >> Waktu mulai berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
> >> http://www.kompas.com/index.php/rss/perempuan
> >> tadinya saya berharap muncul headline2 artikel rubrik Swara. 
Anehnya
> >> yang muncul kebanyakan tip belanja, promosi produk, hubungan 
intim
> >> pria-wanita, dan yang sensasional seperti di bawah ini, walaupun
> >> kadang ada yang menarik seperti Biaya Pendidikan.
> >> Coba simak 5 artikel terkininya:
> >>
> >> Jeruk nipis untuk batu ginjal,
> >> Perempuan subur lebih doyan selingkuh,
> >> Jadi pahlawan buat pasangan,
> >> Keinginan pria,
> >> Menghadapi si iri hati.
> >>
> >> Sebenarnya rubrik ini masuk edisi cetak, atau sekedar online?
> >>
>




[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-05 Terurut Topik Mia
Mungkin judul di atas mesti diganti, perempuan subur lebih riskan 
selinggkuh, atawa lebih tinggi libidonya - gitu kali.

Karena keputusan selingkuh itu kan macem-macem, masak mo selingkuh 
kepikiran sexual selection, genetic variability,competitive 
spermkeburu capek deh..
- karena slingkuh itu indah
- karena hidupku hampa
- karena isteri/suamiku mengacuhkan diriku..
- karena torn between two lovers
- karena jadikan aku yang kedua
- karena kau yang terbaik untukku
- karena kaulah segalanya (maksutnya punya segala..:-)

DWS:Entah apa penelitian berikut bisa menjelaskan fenomena mutakhir
perselingkuhan bukan untuk menciptakan keturunan (ente bisa babak
belur kalo selingkuh terus hamil hehehe).


salam
Mia

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Dwi W. Soegardi" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2008/7/4 Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Bung DWS
> >
> > This is the beauty of nature's design.
> > It is all about the survival of the fittest.
> 
> hola Bang Dan,
> como estas?
> viva espana ni ye hehehehe
> 
> tadinya saya ngga begitu 'ngeh' dengan komentar Anda,
> rupanya itulah yang bahan penelitian para pakar biologi
> terutama "behavioral biology."
> 
> Sudah lama para peneliti mencari jawaban atas
> mengapa pria dan wanita berselingkuh.
> Konon, soal pria lebih mudah jawabannya,
> sedangkan soal wanita memang terkait erat dengan kesuburan 
(fertility).
> 
> Menurut salah satu hasil penelitian majalah New Scientist, 
perselingkuhan pria:
> ===
> Male infidelity has always been easy to explain. Fertilising a 
female
> takes relatively little time and energy, so a male can father a lot 
of
> children quickly and easily. The more females a male mates with, the
> more descendants he will have. His genes - including any that 
promote
> such 'promiscuity' - will become widespread.
> ===
> 
> Sedangkan, perselingkuhan wanita:
> ===
> ... females mate with several males because this allows them to
> pit the sperm of different males against each other in their
> reproductive tracts. In this way, they ensure that they are 
fertilised
> by the best-quality sperm.
> (Mark Bellis and Robin Baker of the University of Manchester)
> ===
> 
> Terima kasih, bang Dan, tampaknya memang saya
> harus banyak belajar kepada pakarnya, terutama pakar selingkuh 
hehehehe.
> 
> silakan menyimak salah satu penjelasan biologi tingkah-laku berikut 
ini.
> Dengan google (misal keyword "fertile, infidelity") bisa pula 
didapati
> banyak artikel lain.
> 
> Entah apa penelitian berikut bisa menjelaskan fenomena mutakhir
> perselingkuhan bukan untuk menciptakan keturunan (ente bisa babak
> belur kalo selingkuh terus hamil hehehe).
> 
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12917523.000-science-female-
infidelity--may-the-best-sperm-win-.html
> 
> Science: Female infidelity - may the best sperm win
> 
> * 19 January 1991
> * From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free 
issues.
> * GEORGIA MASON
> 
> 
> Why are so many females unfaithful to their partners? Two-timing 
would
> not seem to have the advantages for them that it has males. A pair 
of
> British zoologists think they know why it has evolved.
> 
> Mark Bellis and Robin Baker of the University of Manchester say
> females mate with several males because this allows them to pit the
> sperm of different males against each other in their reproductive
> tracts. In this way, they ensure that they are fertilised by the
> best-quality sperm.
> 
> Male infidelity has always been easy to explain. Fertilising a 
female
> takes relatively little time and energy, so a male can father a lot 
of
> children quickly and easily. The more females a male mates with, the
> more descendants he will have. His genes - including any that 
promote
> such 'promiscuity' - will become widespread.
> 
> Females, on the other hand, must devote a lot of time and energy to
> each of their young, from producing the original egg, through
> nurturing the fetus, to looking after the offspring until it becomes
> independent. This means that the number of young a female can 
produce
> is limited. She does not need to mate very often in order to 
reproduce
> at her maximum possible rate.
> 
> More important to a female than the number of times she copulates is
> the quality of the males. She will increase the number of her
> descendants if she chooses a male who can increase the success of 
her
> offspring - by helping to rear them, or by passing on to them genes
> that make them big, strong or attractive. Females are, therefore,
> choosy when it comes to selecting a mate.
> 
> But if quality rather than quantity of partners is important to a
> female, why does she not seek out the best male she can, and stick
> with him? Some biologists have claimed that a female is unfaithful 
so
> that she can persuade a second male to help rear her offspring. 
Others
> have claimed that if a female bears children by a range of fathers,
> she increases their genetic variability, maximising the chance that 
at
>

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-04 Terurut Topik Dwi W. Soegardi
2008/7/4 bmuncar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Setahu saya untuk edisi online, Pak. Beda visi kali antara pemegang
> cetak sama online.
>
> Salam

Terima kasih pak,
tampaknya begitu.
Kalau baca artikelnya, masih mendinglah, bahkan masih layak untuk
masuk rubrik Sains atau ilmu pengetahuan. Kan itu hasil penelitian,
meskipun wartawannya mesti kreatif untuk mencari bahan tambahan, hasil
penelitian yang mungkin berbeda kesimpulannya.
Masalahnya penjudulannya menggunakan kata DOYAN SELINGKUH.
waduh, apa pula ini? Ini bener tulisan wartawan Kompas dan sudah lewat
tangan Pemrednya?
(Seharusnya "Mengapa Perempuan Selingkuh di Kala Subur")

Mungkin saya berharap terlalu banyak,
sebab media lain seperti Jawa Pos, detikcom,
kalo buka Rubrik Wanita, isinya tidak jauh berbeda.

salam,

> --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Dwi W. Soegardi"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 2008/7/3 Dwi W. Soegardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Sejak berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
>>
>> Maaf, tadi belum selesai menulis pengantar, sudah terkirim :-(
>> Seharusnya:
>>
>> Waktu mulai berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
>> http://www.kompas.com/index.php/rss/perempuan
>> tadinya saya berharap muncul headline2 artikel rubrik Swara. Anehnya
>> yang muncul kebanyakan tip belanja, promosi produk, hubungan intim
>> pria-wanita, dan yang sensasional seperti di bawah ini, walaupun
>> kadang ada yang menarik seperti Biaya Pendidikan.
>> Coba simak 5 artikel terkininya:
>>
>> Jeruk nipis untuk batu ginjal,
>> Perempuan subur lebih doyan selingkuh,
>> Jadi pahlawan buat pasangan,
>> Keinginan pria,
>> Menghadapi si iri hati.
>>
>> Sebenarnya rubrik ini masuk edisi cetak, atau sekedar online?
>>


Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-04 Terurut Topik Dwi W. Soegardi
2008/7/4 Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Bung DWS
>
> This is the beauty of nature's design.
> It is all about the survival of the fittest.

hola Bang Dan,
como estas?
viva espana ni ye hehehehe

tadinya saya ngga begitu 'ngeh' dengan komentar Anda,
rupanya itulah yang bahan penelitian para pakar biologi
terutama "behavioral biology."

Sudah lama para peneliti mencari jawaban atas
mengapa pria dan wanita berselingkuh.
Konon, soal pria lebih mudah jawabannya,
sedangkan soal wanita memang terkait erat dengan kesuburan (fertility).

Menurut salah satu hasil penelitian majalah New Scientist, perselingkuhan pria:
===
Male infidelity has always been easy to explain. Fertilising a female
takes relatively little time and energy, so a male can father a lot of
children quickly and easily. The more females a male mates with, the
more descendants he will have. His genes - including any that promote
such 'promiscuity' - will become widespread.
===

Sedangkan, perselingkuhan wanita:
===
... females mate with several males because this allows them to
pit the sperm of different males against each other in their
reproductive tracts. In this way, they ensure that they are fertilised
by the best-quality sperm.
(Mark Bellis and Robin Baker of the University of Manchester)
===

Terima kasih, bang Dan, tampaknya memang saya
harus banyak belajar kepada pakarnya, terutama pakar selingkuh hehehehe.

silakan menyimak salah satu penjelasan biologi tingkah-laku berikut ini.
Dengan google (misal keyword "fertile, infidelity") bisa pula didapati
banyak artikel lain.

Entah apa penelitian berikut bisa menjelaskan fenomena mutakhir
perselingkuhan bukan untuk menciptakan keturunan (ente bisa babak
belur kalo selingkuh terus hamil hehehe).

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12917523.000-science-female-infidelity--may-the-best-sperm-win-.html

Science: Female infidelity - may the best sperm win

* 19 January 1991
* From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.
* GEORGIA MASON


Why are so many females unfaithful to their partners? Two-timing would
not seem to have the advantages for them that it has males. A pair of
British zoologists think they know why it has evolved.

Mark Bellis and Robin Baker of the University of Manchester say
females mate with several males because this allows them to pit the
sperm of different males against each other in their reproductive
tracts. In this way, they ensure that they are fertilised by the
best-quality sperm.

Male infidelity has always been easy to explain. Fertilising a female
takes relatively little time and energy, so a male can father a lot of
children quickly and easily. The more females a male mates with, the
more descendants he will have. His genes - including any that promote
such 'promiscuity' - will become widespread.

Females, on the other hand, must devote a lot of time and energy to
each of their young, from producing the original egg, through
nurturing the fetus, to looking after the offspring until it becomes
independent. This means that the number of young a female can produce
is limited. She does not need to mate very often in order to reproduce
at her maximum possible rate.

More important to a female than the number of times she copulates is
the quality of the males. She will increase the number of her
descendants if she chooses a male who can increase the success of her
offspring - by helping to rear them, or by passing on to them genes
that make them big, strong or attractive. Females are, therefore,
choosy when it comes to selecting a mate.

But if quality rather than quantity of partners is important to a
female, why does she not seek out the best male she can, and stick
with him? Some biologists have claimed that a female is unfaithful so
that she can persuade a second male to help rear her offspring. Others
have claimed that if a female bears children by a range of fathers,
she increases their genetic variability, maximising the chance that at
least some will succeed.

However, Bellis and Baker have another idea for the evolution of
female infidelity, in the human species at least. In a world in which
no individual is strictly monogamous, they say, there is one
particular characteristic that is very advantageous to pass on to
one's sons: good-quality sperm capable of beating any opposition.

But sperm quality if not something a female is likely to be able to
assess from the physical or behavioural attributes of a potential
mate. there is only one way to test the competitive ability of a
male's sperm, say Bellis and Baker. She must mate with other males so
that the sperm of more than one has a chance of fertilising her egg.

This does not, of course, imply conscious scheming on the part of the
female, say the biologists. Any female who mates with several males
will automatically be fertilised by the most able sperm. If this trait
is heritable, then she will have more successful sons than other
femals, and the behaviour will spread throughout

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-04 Terurut Topik Dan
Bung DWS

This is the beauty of nature's design.  
It is all about the survival of the fittest.


--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Dwi W. Soegardi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sejak berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
> 
> Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh
> 
> TPG IMAGES
> 
> Selasa, 1 Juli 2008 | 14:23 WIB
> 
> Memudarnya cinta bukan satu-satunya alasan perempuan berselingkuh.
> Masa subur perempuan bisa menjadi faktor penyebab perselingkuhan.
> Menurut Dr. Irwin Goldstein, dari Boston University School of
> Medicine, perempuan yang tengah berovulasi memiliki tingkat hormon
> testosteron cukup tinggi.
> 
> Ketika libido tinggi, perempuan biasanya mencari pasangan yang
> dianggap bisa berfungsi seksual dengan baik. Jika masalah seksual
> sering mewarnai rumahtangga, maka para perempuan mulai terpikir untuk
> berselingkuh. Ini terjadi sejak zaman purba.
> 
> Namun, tak semua perempuan akan melakukan hal ini. Menurut psikolog
> Steven W. Gangstead, hanya perempuan yang benar-benar kurang puas
> dengan pasangan akan terpikir untuk mencari bibit lain.
> Erma Dwi Kusumastuti
>




[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-04 Terurut Topik bmuncar
Setahu saya untuk edisi online, Pak. Beda visi kali antara pemegang
cetak sama online.

Salam
--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Dwi W. Soegardi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2008/7/3 Dwi W. Soegardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Sejak berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
> 
> Maaf, tadi belum selesai menulis pengantar, sudah terkirim :-(
> Seharusnya:
> 
> Waktu mulai berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
> http://www.kompas.com/index.php/rss/perempuan
> tadinya saya berharap muncul headline2 artikel rubrik Swara. Anehnya
> yang muncul kebanyakan tip belanja, promosi produk, hubungan intim
> pria-wanita, dan yang sensasional seperti di bawah ini, walaupun
> kadang ada yang menarik seperti Biaya Pendidikan.
> Coba simak 5 artikel terkininya:
> 
> Jeruk nipis untuk batu ginjal,
> Perempuan subur lebih doyan selingkuh,
> Jadi pahlawan buat pasangan,
> Keinginan pria,
> Menghadapi si iri hati.
> 
> Sebenarnya rubrik ini masuk edisi cetak, atau sekedar online?
> 
> Ada yang tahu rss feed yang lebih ok?
> Yang ingin mendaptkan headline berita2 seputar gender silakan ke sini:
> http://m.netvibes.com/soegardi klik link ke Gender
> Atau kalo koneksinya cepat ke
> http://www.netvibes.com/soegardi#Gender
> 
> Salam,
> 
> 
>
http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/01/14230551/perempuan.subur.lebih.doyan.selingkuh
> 
> Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh
> 
> 
> >
> > Selasa, 1 Juli 2008 | 14:23 WIB
> >
> > Memudarnya cinta bukan satu-satunya alasan perempuan berselingkuh.
> > Masa subur perempuan bisa menjadi faktor penyebab perselingkuhan.
> > Menurut Dr. Irwin Goldstein, dari Boston University School of
> > Medicine, perempuan yang tengah berovulasi memiliki tingkat hormon
> > testosteron cukup tinggi.
>




[wanita-muslimah] Re: Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh?

2008-07-03 Terurut Topik Dwi W. Soegardi
2008/7/3 Dwi W. Soegardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sejak berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini

Maaf, tadi belum selesai menulis pengantar, sudah terkirim :-(
Seharusnya:

Waktu mulai berlangganan RSS feed Kompas yang ini
http://www.kompas.com/index.php/rss/perempuan
tadinya saya berharap muncul headline2 artikel rubrik Swara. Anehnya
yang muncul kebanyakan tip belanja, promosi produk, hubungan intim
pria-wanita, dan yang sensasional seperti di bawah ini, walaupun
kadang ada yang menarik seperti Biaya Pendidikan.
Coba simak 5 artikel terkininya:

Jeruk nipis untuk batu ginjal,
Perempuan subur lebih doyan selingkuh,
Jadi pahlawan buat pasangan,
Keinginan pria,
Menghadapi si iri hati.

Sebenarnya rubrik ini masuk edisi cetak, atau sekedar online?

Ada yang tahu rss feed yang lebih ok?
Yang ingin mendaptkan headline berita2 seputar gender silakan ke sini:
http://m.netvibes.com/soegardi klik link ke Gender
Atau kalo koneksinya cepat ke
http://www.netvibes.com/soegardi#Gender

Salam,


http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2008/07/01/14230551/perempuan.subur.lebih.doyan.selingkuh

Perempuan Subur Lebih Doyan Selingkuh


>
> Selasa, 1 Juli 2008 | 14:23 WIB
>
> Memudarnya cinta bukan satu-satunya alasan perempuan berselingkuh.
> Masa subur perempuan bisa menjadi faktor penyebab perselingkuhan.
> Menurut Dr. Irwin Goldstein, dari Boston University School of
> Medicine, perempuan yang tengah berovulasi memiliki tingkat hormon
> testosteron cukup tinggi.