Re: [wtr-general] Re: Introducing Watirsome

2013-05-19 Thread Alex Rodionov 
Yep, I understand. A lot similar does page-object by wrapping elements in own 
classes thus allowing to support both watir-webdriver and selenium-webdriver. 
The point of watirsome is a bit different - it exposes Watir classes so you 
could work with the same old well-known API. That's what I needed.

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On Sunday, May 19, 2013 at 21:29 , Jarmo Pertman wrote:

> By the way, element class method in test-page is not the same as your 
> tag-based methods. Element in test-page is a method for providing container 
> element - e.g. like "el" in Backbone.js. The method name is "element" because 
> it is framework agnostic - e.g. you can use it with Watir-WebDriver, 
> Selenium-Webdriver, Capybara or with whatever other framework - i'd say 
> that's the real main difference between test-page and Watirsome.
> 
> Jarmo
> 
> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:22:18 PM UTC+3, Alex Rodionov wrote:
> > For the record, I have updated Watir readme to include all these libraries.
> > 
> > On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:19:47 PM UTC+7, Alex Rodionov wrote:
> > > @Jarmo @Chuck
> > > 
> > > I created this because I've been using page-object 
> > > (https://github.com/cheezy/page-object) for more than a year and I didn't 
> > > know abut test-factory and test-page. It has a bit different API compared 
> > > to them: test-factory and test-page provide with #element class method, 
> > > while page-object provides with a range of tag-based methods (#div, 
> > > #text_field, etc.) I find it much nicer as it is more readable.
> > > 
> > > I've been contributing to page-object constantly but at some point faced 
> > > architecture limitations which resulted that it may be easier to create 
> > > my own library which implements similar API other than modify 
> > > page-object. So I did just the same.
> > > 
> > > The main idea is to be as close to Watir API as possible (the same 
> > > locators, method names) + some extra stuff. It's achieved because 
> > > watirsome is practically a "proxy" to Watir browser. This allowed me to 
> > > move all element definitions to class methods so it's much easier to 
> > > support such page classes.
> > > 
> > > Extra stuff includes initializers for page classes and region modules (to 
> > > support polymorphous page objects 
> > > (http://p0deje.blogspot.ru/2012/01/polymorphous-page-objects.html)), 
> > > custom locators which for now is any boolean method Watir::Element 
> > > responds to. For example:
> > > 
> > > # find first visible text field with label "Username"
> > > text_field :username, label: 'Username', visible: true
> > > 
> > > I treat it as an alternative to gems you mentioned which is more suitable 
> > > for me.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:46:25 PM UTC+7, Jarmo Pertman wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > > 
> > > > If you're looking something really lightweight, then my gem Test::Page 
> > > > is the one you're looking for:
> > > > https://github.com/jarmo/test-page
> > > > 
> > > > Jarmo
> > > > 
> > > > On Friday, May 17, 2013 11:46:18 PM UTC+3, Chuck van der Linden wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:36:12 PM UTC-7, Alex Rodionov wrote:
> > > > > > Hey guys! 
> > > > > > I've recently released Watirsome, which is a gem I've been using at 
> > > > > > work for a long time as an alternative to well known page-object. 
> > > > > > It's a lot similar to it, but more dynamic and based on 
> > > > > > watir-webdriver. Thus (at least for now), it works only with it.
> > > > > > Anyways, you can take a look at https://github.com/p0deje/watirsome 
> > > > > > and probably give it a shot!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > How is it different from, or would you contrast it with the 
> > > > > "test-factory" page objects gem?  
> > > > > http://rubygems.org/gems/test-factory
> > > > > 
> > > > > just wondering as that is a lightweight, designed for Watir page 
> > > > > objects gem that I'm using (and so far like very much)  
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[wtr-general] Re: Introducing Watirsome

2013-05-19 Thread Jarmo Pertman 
By the way, element class method in test-page is not the same as your 
tag-based methods. Element in test-page is a method for providing container 
element - e.g. like "el" in Backbone.js. The method name is "element" 
because it is framework agnostic - e.g. you can use it with 
Watir-WebDriver, Selenium-Webdriver, Capybara or with whatever other 
framework - i'd say that's the real main difference between test-page and 
Watirsome.

Jarmo

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:22:18 PM UTC+3, Alex Rodionov wrote:
>
> For the record, I have updated Watir readme to include all these libraries.
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:19:47 PM UTC+7, Alex Rodionov wrote:
>>
>> @Jarmo @Chuck
>>
>> I created this because I've been using 
>> page-objectfor more than a year and I 
>> didn't know abut test-factory and test-page. It 
>> has a bit different API compared to them: test-factory and test-page 
>> provide with #element class method, while page-object provides with a range 
>> of tag-based methods (#div, #text_field, etc.) I find it much nicer as it 
>> is more readable.
>>
>> I've been contributing to page-object constantly but at some point faced 
>> architecture limitations which resulted that it may be easier to create my 
>> own library which implements similar API other than modify page-object. So 
>> I did just the same.
>>
>> The main idea is to be as close to Watir API as possible (the same 
>> locators, method names) + some extra stuff. It's achieved because watirsome 
>> is practically a "proxy" to Watir browser. This allowed me to move all 
>> element definitions to class methods so it's much easier to support such 
>> page classes.
>>
>> Extra stuff includes initializers for page classes and region modules (to 
>> support polymorphous page 
>> objects), 
>> custom 
>> locators which for now is any boolean method Watir::Element responds to. 
>> For example:
>>
>> # find first visible text field with label "Username"
>> text_field :username, label: 'Username', visible: true
>>
>> I treat it as an alternative to gems you mentioned which is more suitable 
>> for me.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:46:25 PM UTC+7, Jarmo Pertman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> If you're looking something really lightweight, then my gem Test::Page 
>>> is the one you're looking for:
>>> https://github.com/jarmo/test-page
>>>
>>> Jarmo
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 17, 2013 11:46:18 PM UTC+3, Chuck van der Linden wrote:

 On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:36:12 PM UTC-7, Alex Rodionov wrote:

> Hey guys!
>
> I've recently released Watirsome, which is a gem I've been using at 
> work for a long time as an alternative to well known page-object. 
>
> It's a lot similar to it, but more dynamic and based on 
> watir-webdriver. Thus (at least for now), it works only with it.
>
> Anyways, you can take a look at https://github.com/p0deje/watirsome and 
> probably give it a shot!
>

 How is it different from, or would you contrast it with the 
 "test-factory" page objects gem?  http://rubygems.org/gems/test-factory

 just wondering as that is a lightweight, designed for Watir page 
 objects gem that I'm using (and so far like very much) 

>>>

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