[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Joseph Harris
Now you're trying to frighten me :-o. It is supposed to be a shockwave
file, but even though I have downloaded shockwave player 8something it
refuses to play.   (and yes my anti-virus is up-to-date and the sender is
known to me)

I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?   Should I
update IE - or are there more hazards with the update?

Joseph

From: Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 viruses can be disguised as .swf files. I hope your anti-virus
 software is up to date


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 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:30 AM
 Subject: [wdvltalk] swf file


 Someone has sent me an .swf file.It wouldn't play.   I have
 downloaded
 uninstall then flash player version 6 from Macromedia and followed
 all
 instructions.   The file still won't play;   I am asked for an
 association
 but neither flash nor macromedia appear to be in the list.   Has
 anyone any
 advice?

 Joseph



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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Joseph,

 I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?   

Have you tried selecting Internet Explorer in the Open With... dialog box?
The Flash player doesn't show up as a separate application, it's a plug-in
for IE.

Cheers
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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Paul Larue
Actually the flash player is a separate application as well as a plug-in.
Installing Flash will give you all the necessary plug-ins/players you need.

On the other hand, you could try embedding the swf file in an html page and
see if it shows up.

Paul

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Hi Joseph,

 I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?

Have you tried selecting Internet Explorer in the Open With... dialog box?
The Flash player doesn't show up as a separate application, it's a plug-in
for IE.

Cheers
Jon

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[wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't update the child table - HELP

2003-03-18 Thread Paul Larue
Me again, Anybody can help?

Paul

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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table


Hi all,
I created 2 tables in MySQl with the following statements
==
CREATE TABLE employees (
emp_id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
emp_last_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_first_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_nick_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_date_joined DATE NOT NULL,
emp_date_left DATE,
emp_title TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_group CHAR(50),
emp_address TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_city TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_phone CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_mobile CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_national_id CHAR(14) NOT NULL,
emp_social_security CHAR(8) NOT NULL,
emp_tax_ac CHAR(8) NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (emp_id),
KEY (emp_group),
FOREIGN KEY (emp_group) REFERENCES employee_groups(grp_name)
ON DELETE SET NULL
ON UPDATE CASCADE
)
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores information about employees in company

CREATE TABLE employee_groups (
grp_id INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
grp_name CHAR(50) NOT NULL,
grp_overtime_paid BOOL NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (grp_id),
INDEX (grp_name))
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores group names and their properties
==
The field employee_groups.grp_name is 'mapped' to employees.emp_group and
the referential integrity is set all the associated fileds to NULL when the
parent record is DLETED and to CASCADE when the parent record is UPDATED.

Creating the tables is fine. Inserting data in the tables is fine too. But
when I try to update a record in employee_groups, MySQL returns the
following error

mysql UPDATE employee_groups SET grp_name = FOO WHERE grp_id = 1;
ERROR 1217: Cannot delete a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails

Why is it telling me that I'm trying to delete the record when I'm only
doing a simple update?

Deleting the records is ok, MySQl sets the associated fields to NULL. But
the update WON'T work...

Any clue?

Thanks in advance

Paul



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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Paul,

   I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?
  
  Have you tried selecting Internet Explorer in the Open With... 
  dialog box? The Flash player doesn't show up as a separate 
  application, it's a plug-in for IE.
 
 Actually the flash player is a separate application as well as a 
 plug-in. Installing Flash will give you all the necessary plug-ins/
 players you need.

Oops, sorry for the misinformation! I don't have full Flash here, just the
player, and it doesn't show up in Open With... 

That'll teach me to extrapolate from my situation to everyone else's :-)

 On the other hand, you could try embedding the swf file in an 
 html page and see if it shows up.

You could, although that's a lot more work than just opening it...

Cheers
Jon

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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Paul Larue
Do you think it is legal to send the flash player to somebody by email?
It weighs only 800k

Paul

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From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: swf file


Hi Paul,

   I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?
 
  Have you tried selecting Internet Explorer in the Open With...
  dialog box? The Flash player doesn't show up as a separate
  application, it's a plug-in for IE.

 Actually the flash player is a separate application as well as a
 plug-in. Installing Flash will give you all the necessary plug-ins/
 players you need.

Oops, sorry for the misinformation! I don't have full Flash here, just the
player, and it doesn't show up in Open With...

That'll teach me to extrapolate from my situation to everyone else's :-)

 On the other hand, you could try embedding the swf file in an
 html page and see if it shows up.

You could, although that's a lot more work than just opening it...

Cheers
Jon

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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Stephen Caudill
Joseph Harris wrote:

 I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?  Should I
 update IE - or are there more hazards with the update?
 
 Joseph

Right off the bat you hazard getting a much better, more standards compliant browser.  
You also hazard having pages display better and having closer display properties 
between M$ and every other browser out there.  Though, I would hazard a guess that 
this is not your problem with the .swf file.

-Stephen

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[wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't update the child table - HELP

2003-03-18 Thread Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja
Hi Paul,

I hope I understand correctly (little sleep can make you see things)...

In MSSQL when a record gets updated it deletes it first and then it
inserts the new information. To us it looks like it just updated the
information. So I assume it will happen the same in MySQL.  The reason you
cant update the record is becuase you mapped (setting up primary and
secondary key contraints - employees.emp_group and
employee_groups.grp_name). I suggest you rather set up your constraints
using employees.emp_group (make it an INTEGER) and employee_groups.grp_id.
That way if you want to update the group name you only have to do it in
employee_groups.grp_name.  While you are updating your employees table with
the group information you can drop the constraints and then activating it
again when you are finished. Im not quite sure what the MySQl commands for
that will be.

I hope this helps. 
Sonja

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From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2003 02:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Me again, Anybody can help?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table


Hi all,
I created 2 tables in MySQl with the following statements
==
CREATE TABLE employees (
emp_id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
emp_last_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_first_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_nick_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_date_joined DATE NOT NULL,
emp_date_left DATE,
emp_title TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_group CHAR(50),
emp_address TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_city TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_phone CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_mobile CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_national_id CHAR(14) NOT NULL,
emp_social_security CHAR(8) NOT NULL,
emp_tax_ac CHAR(8) NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (emp_id),
KEY (emp_group),
FOREIGN KEY (emp_group) REFERENCES employee_groups(grp_name)
ON DELETE SET NULL
ON UPDATE CASCADE
)
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores information about employees in company

CREATE TABLE employee_groups (
grp_id INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
grp_name CHAR(50) NOT NULL,
grp_overtime_paid BOOL NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (grp_id),
INDEX (grp_name))
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores group names and their properties
==
The field employee_groups.grp_name is 'mapped' to employees.emp_group and
the referential integrity is set all the associated fileds to NULL when the
parent record is DLETED and to CASCADE when the parent record is UPDATED.

Creating the tables is fine. Inserting data in the tables is fine too. But
when I try to update a record in employee_groups, MySQL returns the
following error

mysql UPDATE employee_groups SET grp_name = FOO WHERE grp_id = 1;
ERROR 1217: Cannot delete a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails

Why is it telling me that I'm trying to delete the record when I'm only
doing a simple update?

Deleting the records is ok, MySQl sets the associated fields to NULL. But
the update WON'T work...

Any clue?

Thanks in advance

Paul



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[wdvltalk] RE: [DTS] Access 97 to MSSQL 2000 headache

2003-03-18 Thread Furry, Tim
Forgot to mention...in the stored procedure you might want to wrap all
the update/insert/delete code inside a transaction.  That way if for
some reason it fails, it will roll the SQL table back to the way it was
before and all you'll need to clean up is the temp table.

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[wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't update the child table - HELP

2003-03-18 Thread Paul Larue
Sonja,
I thought about that one but the result will be that if I want to have,
let's say, a list of employees and their associated groups, I would have to
make a UNION select on the 2 tables to get the associated
employee_groups.grp_name since employees.emp_group only contains the ID of
the group name. So only to avoid that, I would prefer to keep the actual
pk/fk mapping. Your solution is somehow interesting since updating
employee_groups.grp_name DOES NOT affect the employees table.

What do you think is better? Keep the existing setup and bang my head
against the wall to find out why it won't work or change to the one you
proposed? Taking into consideration the issue I pointed out above (the UNION
stuff).

Thanks

Paul

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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Hi Paul,

I hope I understand correctly (little sleep can make you see things)...

In MSSQL when a record gets updated it deletes it first and then it
inserts the new information. To us it looks like it just updated the
information. So I assume it will happen the same in MySQL.  The reason you
cant update the record is becuase you mapped (setting up primary and
secondary key contraints - employees.emp_group and
employee_groups.grp_name). I suggest you rather set up your constraints
using employees.emp_group (make it an INTEGER) and employee_groups.grp_id.
That way if you want to update the group name you only have to do it in
employee_groups.grp_name.  While you are updating your employees table with
the group information you can drop the constraints and then activating it
again when you are finished. Im not quite sure what the MySQl commands for
that will be.

I hope this helps.
Sonja

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From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2003 02:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Me again, Anybody can help?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table


Hi all,
I created 2 tables in MySQl with the following statements
==
CREATE TABLE employees (
emp_id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
emp_last_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_first_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_nick_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_date_joined DATE NOT NULL,
emp_date_left DATE,
emp_title TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_group CHAR(50),
emp_address TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_city TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_phone CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_mobile CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_national_id CHAR(14) NOT NULL,
emp_social_security CHAR(8) NOT NULL,
emp_tax_ac CHAR(8) NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (emp_id),
KEY (emp_group),
FOREIGN KEY (emp_group) REFERENCES employee_groups(grp_name)
ON DELETE SET NULL
ON UPDATE CASCADE
)
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores information about employees in company

CREATE TABLE employee_groups (
grp_id INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
grp_name CHAR(50) NOT NULL,
grp_overtime_paid BOOL NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (grp_id),
INDEX (grp_name))
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores group names and their properties
==
The field employee_groups.grp_name is 'mapped' to employees.emp_group and
the referential integrity is set all the associated fileds to NULL when the
parent record is DLETED and to CASCADE when the parent record is UPDATED.

Creating the tables is fine. Inserting data in the tables is fine too. But
when I try to update a record in employee_groups, MySQL returns the
following error

mysql UPDATE employee_groups SET grp_name = FOO WHERE grp_id = 1;
ERROR 1217: Cannot delete a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails

Why is it telling me that I'm trying to delete the record when I'm only
doing a simple update?

Deleting the records is ok, MySQl sets the associated fields to NULL. But
the update WON'T work...

Any clue?

Thanks in advance

Paul



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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\)
Not trying to frighten, just trying to caution.
I think we all know that headers can be forged by a virus.
I would probably try creating a simple html page for it and open
the page with your browser.

AuntySpam
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Don't be afraid of living ~the alternative is too final.





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From: Joseph Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: swf file


Now you're trying to frighten me :-o. It is supposed to be a
shockwave
file, but even though I have downloaded shockwave player
8something it
refuses to play.   (and yes my anti-virus is up-to-date and the
sender is
known to me)

I can only think it might be that it won't work with IE 5.0?
Should I
update IE - or are there more hazards with the update?

Joseph

From: Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 viruses can be disguised as .swf files. I hope your anti-virus
 software is up to date


 - Original Message -
 From: Joseph Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:30 AM
 Subject: [wdvltalk] swf file


 Someone has sent me an .swf file.It wouldn't play.   I have
 downloaded
 uninstall then flash player version 6 from Macromedia and
followed
 all
 instructions.   The file still won't play;   I am asked for an
 association
 but neither flash nor macromedia appear to be in the list.   Has
 anyone any
 advice?

 Joseph



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[wdvltalk] swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Jan Major
Joseph

Do you know the person who sent you the .swf file?
Why don't you have your anti virus program scan it?
Go ahead and email it to my personal email address,
and I'll take a look at it.
Jan
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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Joseph Harris
Thanks to everybody who is offering advice on this.   You have advanced my
education about plug-ins and the files they may relate to.

Jon, associating with IE proved the answer.

Paul,   I didn't test the embedding in an html page idea, but I'll keep that
behind my ear should such a problem arise with another file.

The file, I now find came from here
http://members.aol.com/bushnbin2/blush.htm   - funnyish, but the words are a
little indistinct to my ear;

Stephen,   I did have 5.5 before I reinstalled and I do keep thinking about
updating, but then there are those patches, too!

Norma,   You are right about caution;   but I had already contacted the
sender, so knew it was ok (or should be - and is).

Jan,   Thanks for your kind offer;  but all is well.

Joseph


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 Joseph

 Do you know the person who sent you the .swf file?
 Why don't you have your anti virus program scan it?
 Go ahead and email it to my personal email address,
 and I'll take a look at it.

 Jan
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[wdvltalk] Re: swf file

2003-03-18 Thread Franni Vincent
The Riverdance swf at that URL is well worth the wait for it to load (not
often you'll hear me say that about a swf). Thanks for this ,Joseph -  Love
Bin Laden's Muttley impersonation...

Franni




Thanks to everybody who is offering advice on this.   You have advanced my
education about plug-ins and the files they may relate to.

Jon, associating with IE proved the answer.

Paul,   I didn't test the embedding in an html page idea, but I'll keep that
behind my ear should such a problem arise with another file.

The file, I now find came from here
http://members.aol.com/bushnbin2/blush.htm   - funnyish, but the words are a
little indistinct to my ear;

Stephen,   I did have 5.5 before I reinstalled and I do keep thinking about
updating, but then there are those patches, too!

Norma,   You are right about caution;   but I had already contacted the
sender, so knew it was ok (or should be - and is).

Jan,   Thanks for your kind offer;  but all is well.

Joseph


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[wdvltalk] RE: [DTS] Access 97 to MSSQL 2000 headache

2003-03-18 Thread Justthink0
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[wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't update the child table - HELP

2003-03-18 Thread Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja
Hi Paul,

You can't update or delete any information in a column if there is a pk/fk
mapping. SQL needs to maintain the integrity of the information and this is
one of the ways it does it. If you want to keep the group name in the
employees table why do you have the employees group at all. You need to
normalize your database as this is the way databases should be designed
(meaning splitting the employee information and the employee group
information with links to the id's). Therefore you need to set it up like
the example I gave you. Why do you want to avoid a union select? If it is
the same as MSSQL you would use a LEFT JOIN employees.emp_groupid ON
employee_groups.grp_id to get your information (this basically says include
all the records from employees to all the groups/id's that referenced in
employee_groups)

Just a note. I find this easier to work with.  If you have
employee_group.grp_id as the column name, use the same grp_id name in your
employees table.  Therefore if you go back at a later stage you know exactly
where what links to. 

I hope this is clear
Sonja

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2003 04:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Sonja,
I thought about that one but the result will be that if I want to have,
let's say, a list of employees and their associated groups, I would have to
make a UNION select on the 2 tables to get the associated
employee_groups.grp_name since employees.emp_group only contains the ID of
the group name. So only to avoid that, I would prefer to keep the actual
pk/fk mapping. Your solution is somehow interesting since updating
employee_groups.grp_name DOES NOT affect the employees table.

What do you think is better? Keep the existing setup and bang my head
against the wall to find out why it won't work or change to the one you
proposed? Taking into consideration the issue I pointed out above (the UNION
stuff).

Thanks

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Hi Paul,

I hope I understand correctly (little sleep can make you see things)...

In MSSQL when a record gets updated it deletes it first and then it
inserts the new information. To us it looks like it just updated the
information. So I assume it will happen the same in MySQL.  The reason you
cant update the record is becuase you mapped (setting up primary and
secondary key contraints - employees.emp_group and
employee_groups.grp_name). I suggest you rather set up your constraints
using employees.emp_group (make it an INTEGER) and employee_groups.grp_id.
That way if you want to update the group name you only have to do it in
employee_groups.grp_name.  While you are updating your employees table with
the group information you can drop the constraints and then activating it
again when you are finished. Im not quite sure what the MySQl commands for
that will be.

I hope this helps.
Sonja

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2003 02:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Me again, Anybody can help?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table


Hi all,
I created 2 tables in MySQl with the following statements
==
CREATE TABLE employees (
emp_id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
emp_last_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_first_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_nick_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_date_joined DATE NOT NULL,
emp_date_left DATE,
emp_title TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_group CHAR(50),
emp_address TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_city TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_phone CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_mobile CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_national_id CHAR(14) NOT NULL,
emp_social_security CHAR(8) NOT NULL,
emp_tax_ac CHAR(8) NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (emp_id),
KEY (emp_group),
FOREIGN KEY (emp_group) REFERENCES employee_groups(grp_name)
ON DELETE SET NULL
ON UPDATE CASCADE
)
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores information about employees in company

CREATE TABLE employee_groups (
grp_id INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
grp_name CHAR(50) NOT NULL,
grp_overtime_paid BOOL NOT NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (grp_id),
INDEX (grp_name))
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores group names and their properties
==
The field employee_groups.grp_name is 

[wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't update the child table - HELP

2003-03-18 Thread Paul Larue
Hi Sonja,
Thanks for the advice. I think I'll stick to it.

Regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Hi Paul,

You can't update or delete any information in a column if there is a pk/fk
mapping. SQL needs to maintain the integrity of the information and this is
one of the ways it does it. If you want to keep the group name in the
employees table why do you have the employees group at all. You need to
normalize your database as this is the way databases should be designed
(meaning splitting the employee information and the employee group
information with links to the id's). Therefore you need to set it up like
the example I gave you. Why do you want to avoid a union select? If it is
the same as MSSQL you would use a LEFT JOIN employees.emp_groupid ON
employee_groups.grp_id to get your information (this basically says include
all the records from employees to all the groups/id's that referenced in
employee_groups)

Just a note. I find this easier to work with.  If you have
employee_group.grp_id as the column name, use the same grp_id name in your
employees table.  Therefore if you go back at a later stage you know exactly
where what links to.

I hope this is clear
Sonja

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2003 04:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Sonja,
I thought about that one but the result will be that if I want to have,
let's say, a list of employees and their associated groups, I would have to
make a UNION select on the 2 tables to get the associated
employee_groups.grp_name since employees.emp_group only contains the ID of
the group name. So only to avoid that, I would prefer to keep the actual
pk/fk mapping. Your solution is somehow interesting since updating
employee_groups.grp_name DOES NOT affect the employees table.

What do you think is better? Keep the existing setup and bang my head
against the wall to find out why it won't work or change to the one you
proposed? Taking into consideration the issue I pointed out above (the UNION
stuff).

Thanks

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Hi Paul,

I hope I understand correctly (little sleep can make you see things)...

In MSSQL when a record gets updated it deletes it first and then it
inserts the new information. To us it looks like it just updated the
information. So I assume it will happen the same in MySQL.  The reason you
cant update the record is becuase you mapped (setting up primary and
secondary key contraints - employees.emp_group and
employee_groups.grp_name). I suggest you rather set up your constraints
using employees.emp_group (make it an INTEGER) and employee_groups.grp_id.
That way if you want to update the group name you only have to do it in
employee_groups.grp_name.  While you are updating your employees table with
the group information you can drop the constraints and then activating it
again when you are finished. Im not quite sure what the MySQl commands for
that will be.

I hope this helps.
Sonja

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2003 02:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table - HELP


Me again, Anybody can help?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Paul Larue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] [MySQL] InnoDB - Updating a parent table won't
update the child table


Hi all,
I created 2 tables in MySQl with the following statements
==
CREATE TABLE employees (
emp_id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT,
emp_last_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_first_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_nick_name TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_date_joined DATE NOT NULL,
emp_date_left DATE,
emp_title TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_group CHAR(50),
emp_address TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_city TINYTEXT NOT NULL,
emp_phone CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_mobile CHAR(7) NULL,
emp_national_id CHAR(14) NOT NULL,
emp_social_security CHAR(8) NOT NULL,
emp_tax_ac CHAR(8) NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (emp_id),
KEY (emp_group),
FOREIGN KEY (emp_group) REFERENCES employee_groups(grp_name)
ON DELETE SET NULL
ON UPDATE CASCADE
)
TYPE=InnoDB
COMMENT=Stores information about employees in company

CREATE TABLE employee_groups (