[wdvltalk] Re: Search Engine Placement Problems

2003-06-17 Thread puterbug
At 09:50 PM 6/16/2003 +, you wrote:


Hi Deb,

Thanks for this knowledge.  I had a look at the dance, and the site is not 
listed anywhere there.  I will wait and see, as you suggest.
My own sites are jumping around and I'm getting nervous myself.  When I got 
up tonight I checked my business site, it now had a PR of 4/10 which was 
down from 5/10 :( but like an hour later I was working on it and I happened 
to glance at the toolbar and found it was back at 5/10.  It's a crazy time 
on Google.


Apart from Google, what are the other main search engines to worry about 
ranking on?  I am assuming that if they are powered by Google then you 
just have to sort out Google and you will rank in these others too is this 
correct?
Pretty much so.  If an SE gleans it's results from Google, optimize sites 
for Google is what I do.  But it doesn't hurt to poke around specific SE's 
to see if they have special requirements for submission either.  Actually, 
you don't even have to submit a site to Google, their spiderbots will find 
sites w/o actually submitting them.  Sorry, not up on the list  of who's 
high up on the SE list, but a couple that come to mind would be AltaVista 
and Yahoo, but I know for sure Yahoo gets their stuff from Google, don't 
remember about AV ... however, do submit to Yahoo's directory is my 
suggestion. Same with AV if they have one.  Haven't been over there lately 
and don't remember.

Sorry if these are really basic questions.  I seem to be reading up loads 
on search engines and not really finding answers - its very frustrating.
Here's a suggestion for finding some good SE info.  Go to another site of 
mine (this is easier than me listing them all for you) 
http://pixelresources.net (it's new so don't be alarmed there's not much 
there yet ...) and check out the WEB DEVELOPERS LINKS. There is already a 
nice little collection of great SE links to follow.  You're of course, 
invited to add your own business if you like, join in the forums and 
anything else on the site.  It's open to all on this list and your friends 
in the business as well.  The more the merrier, ya know?

Deb



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[wdvltalk] Re: Good mailing list program?

2003-06-17 Thread David Precious

Hi Ali,

 I've got to set up a mailing list -- it's the delivery of a newsletter,
 actually, that's going to go out, but the members can't send to the entire
 list, just to admin. There's a whole wack of choices out there, but I'm
 not
 sure who to go with. Free is great, cheap is good -- I'd pay a bit to not
 deal with ads or other nonsense tucked in though. Any you found to be
 good,
 or to avoid entirely?

Are you looking for a program to do it, or a service (like Yahoo Groups
kind of thing, but better)?

If you're looking for a program I'd definately recommend Mailman - I've
just moved the wdvltalk-social list onto it, and so far it seems pretty
good!

See http://www.wdvltalk-social.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wdvltalk-social for
a bit of info on the wdvltalk-social list, and
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html for info on Mailman!

Cheers

David P



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[wdvltalk] Re: Good mailing list program?

2003-06-17 Thread Joseph Harris
Alida,

Zinester.com works free for Smile Poetry Weekly and the process is simple
enough even for me.   Andrew Okunev is nearly always on hand with answers to
queries.   His name gives away that they are based in Moscow.

There are paid options, of course.

Joseph

Joseph Harris
Smile Poetry Weekly (fortnightly)
www.smilepoetryweekly.com
Batty Balls and other Wicket Wit
www.ah-mah-son.com

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:33 AM
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 Hi all,

 I've got to set up a mailing list -- it's the delivery of a newsletter,
 actually, that's going to go out, but the members can't send to the entire
 list, just to admin. There's a whole wack of choices out there, but I'm
not
 sure who to go with. Free is great, cheap is good -- I'd pay a bit to not
 deal with ads or other nonsense tucked in though. Any you found to be
good,
 or to avoid entirely?

 Much appreciated,

 Ali



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[wdvltalk] RE: Good mailing list program?

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Caudill
Alida Saxon bespaketh on Monday, June 16, 2003 8:34 PM:

 Hi all,
 
 I've got to set up a mailing list -- it's the delivery of a
 newsletter, actually, that's going to go out, but the members can't
 send to the entire list, just to admin. There's a whole wack of
 choices out there, but I'm not sure who to go with. Free is great,
 cheap is good -- I'd pay a bit to not deal with ads or other nonsense
 tucked in though. Any you found to be good, or to avoid entirely?
 
 Much appreciated,
 
 Ali


Ali,  
  What language and OS are you dealing with? Have you searched sourceforge.net yet?  
hotscripts.com?
hth,
Stephen

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[wdvltalk] Re: Servers: Unix vs. Windows

2003-06-17 Thread Furry, Tim
Paul wrote:
Actually .Net's CLI has been standardized by ECMA as well as it C#. So
there could be a .Net implementation for *nix. I went to a MS DevDays on
.Net some time ago and asked about implementation of .NET in *nix and
they said that they heard of one but it wasn't ready yet. Maybe it is
now. Unfortunately I dunno where you could get info on it. Maybe google
can help...

Tim:
Try this: http://www.go-mono.com/

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[wdvltalk] RE: Good mailing list program?

2003-06-17 Thread Alida Saxon
Hi Stephen,

Yeah, I've been poking around hotscripts.com and a few other places lately
for various scripts, but there's so many options around, I'm not sure which
way to go... which is why I was hoping to hear what those on the list
liked/used before. (And thank you to those who have).

The computer's a PC, Win98 using Outlook Express. If you mean the server
where the hosting is at, it's linux/unix. Anything PHP or perl's good to go.

Thanks,

Ali


 Ali,
   What language and OS are you dealing with? Have you searched
sourceforge.net yet?  hotscripts.com?
 hth,
 Stephen

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[wdvltalk] Re: Good mailing list program?

2003-06-17 Thread Alida Saxon
Hi Joseph,

Thanks for the site to check. I'd probably have to go with a premium acct to
cut out the advertising, but I don't really have a problem with that if it's
a good service. I'm going to check into a few more, but thanks for the heads
up. :)

Ali
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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:22 AM
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: Good mailing list program?


 Alida,

 Zinester.com works free for Smile Poetry Weekly and the process is simple
 enough even for me.   Andrew Okunev is nearly always on hand with answers
to
 queries.   His name gives away that they are based in Moscow.

 There are paid options, of course.

 Joseph

 Joseph Harris
 Smile Poetry Weekly (fortnightly)
 www.smilepoetryweekly.com
 Batty Balls and other Wicket Wit
 www.ah-mah-son.com

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 From: Alida Saxon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:33 AM
 Subject: [wdvltalk] Good mailing list program?


  Hi all,
 
  I've got to set up a mailing list -- it's the delivery of a newsletter,
  actually, that's going to go out, but the members can't send to the
entire
  list, just to admin. There's a whole wack of choices out there, but I'm
 not
  sure who to go with. Free is great, cheap is good -- I'd pay a bit to
not
  deal with ads or other nonsense tucked in though. Any you found to be
 good,
  or to avoid entirely?
 
  Much appreciated,
 
  Ali
 
 
 
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[wdvltalk] Re: Good mailing list program?

2003-06-17 Thread Alida Saxon
Hi David,

I like the the look of Mailman so far from what I read. That it doesn't run
through or off someone elses' server's a bonus too. Thanks! I'll be looking
deeper into mailman.

Much appreciated,

Ali
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 Hi Ali,

  I've got to set up a mailing list -- it's the delivery of a newsletter,
  actually, that's going to go out, but the members can't send to the
entire
  list, just to admin. There's a whole wack of choices out there, but I'm
  not
  sure who to go with. Free is great, cheap is good -- I'd pay a bit to
not
  deal with ads or other nonsense tucked in though. Any you found to be
  good,
  or to avoid entirely?

 Are you looking for a program to do it, or a service (like Yahoo Groups
 kind of thing, but better)?

 If you're looking for a program I'd definately recommend Mailman - I've
 just moved the wdvltalk-social list onto it, and so far it seems pretty
 good!

 See http://www.wdvltalk-social.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wdvltalk-social for
 a bit of info on the wdvltalk-social list, and
 http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html for info on Mailman!

 Cheers

 David P




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[wdvltalk] saving emails and folders in OE6

2003-06-17 Thread Brooke Warren
I want to take all my stuff to another computer, as well as reformat this
one.  I've never been able to successfully complete an export etc. and am
not sure what I'm missing, or if there is a better way.  I want to save all
my emails (that I've weeded out and need to hang on to) but there are too
many to save indiviudually to some easy to find place on my machine to burn
to a cd.  I also want to save all my contacts as well, and that is what
I've messed up trying to do the export/import thing.  I'm using Outlook
Express on XPhome , and it seems impossible to find the folder that
contains all this stuff so I can burn it to a cd. I just don't know what I'm
doing - any tips?
Thanks group!
bbw
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[wdvltalk] Re: Search Engine Placement Problems

2003-06-17 Thread Sol Sinclair
original question
Apart from Google, what are the other main search engines to worry about
ranking on?  I am assuming that if they are powered by Google then you
just have to sort out Google and you will rank in these others too is this
correct?
/question

Deb's response
Pretty much so.  If an SE gleans it's results from Google, optimize sites
for Google is what I do -- but a couple that come to mind would be AltaVista
and Yahoo, but I know for sure Yahoo gets their stuff from Google, don't
remember about AV
/deb

Thought i would add
Altavista has their own spider - I think they call it scooter. You can
submit to AltaVista for free at: http://addurl.altavista.com/addurl/new

AllTheWeb also has thier own spider. Their submission page is at:
http://www.alltheweb.com/add_url.php?_oldhost=alltheweb.com

MSN gets their results from Inktomi. You can submit to MSN at
http://submitit.bcentral.com/msnsubmit.htm

Getting listed in directories such as DMOZ, JoeAnt, GoGuides is really good
too, in that it helps search engines find your site.

/Sol


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[wdvltalk] Re: saving emails and folders in OE6

2003-06-17 Thread Sol Sinclair
Brooke wrote
I want to save all my emails (that I've weeded out and need to hang on to)
but there are too
many to save indiviudually to some easy to find place on my machine to burn
to a cd.
/Brooke

Hi Brooke;

I am running Win2K with OutLook Express - I imagine it's the same. I back
some e-mails to CD by dragging and dropping them from Outook to the CD
Window. You can do a Select All (CTRL+A) and copy them all at once if they
are in the same folder. Or you can hold down shift to select a group of
e-mails to copy in Outlook. Hope this helps some.

/Sol


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[wdvltalk] RE: saving emails and folders in OE6

2003-06-17 Thread Cymbala, Greg
In OE, go to Tools  Options.

Click on the Maintnance tab.

Click on the Store Folder ... button.

That will tell you where all your folders, Inbox, and everything else, live.
You can copy all of the files in that folder to a CD or otherwise get them
to the new PC.  Then, change the Store Folder on the new PC by going to
Tools Options, Maintenance tab, and click on the Store Folder ... button
and then on the Change ... button.

As far as the address book, I've never exported and re-imported that, but it
looks like exporting to text (comma separated valus) is a safe bet, then
File  Import  Other Address Book ... And pick the Text (comma separated
valus).

HTH,
Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] saving emails and folders in OE6


I want to take all my stuff to another computer, as well as reformat this
one.  I've never been able to successfully complete an export etc. and am
not sure what I'm missing, or if there is a better way.  I want to save all
my emails (that I've weeded out and need to hang on to) but there are too
many to save indiviudually to some easy to find place on my machine to burn
to a cd.  I also want to save all my contacts as well, and that is what
I've messed up trying to do the export/import thing.  I'm using Outlook
Express on XPhome , and it seems impossible to find the folder that
contains all this stuff so I can burn it to a cd. I just don't know what I'm
doing - any tips? Thanks group! bbw ~`
always a newbie in training!


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