[wdvltalk] Registering an existing domain

2006-01-23 Thread Jon Haworth
Hello list,

We have a client who wants to try and grab a domain which is currently
registered but due to expire this weekend (it's a .org.uk, FWIW).

There isn't a website or any other sign of life there at the moment, and as it
was originally registered six years ago we're hopeful that the owner has given
up on it and is planning to let it lapse.

Assuming it doesn't get re-registered this week, has anyone got any info on how
we could best get our hands on it? Is there a grace period where the existing
owner gets first refusal, or can we just register it on Monday morning like any
other domain?

Any tips/advice welcome,

Thanks,
Jon

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Re: [wdvltalk] Registering an existing domain

2006-01-23 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Can't remember the exact terminology as I'm up to my neck in XML and really 
crappy parsers but I think after a domain lapses there is a certain period 
(detagged I think) where the domain is shut off from the net but is still 
tied to its existing owner allowing them to renew (just in case they forgot 
or something). I think this state lasts for a few months.


If the domain is not re-registered by the end of this limbo state then it 
comes open for purchase. Only at that stage will your client be able to grab 
it.


I think...

MOU 






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RE: [wdvltalk] Registering an existing domain

2006-01-23 Thread Jon Haworth
Ross,

 Can't remember the exact terminology as I'm up to my neck in 
 XML and really crappy parsers but I think after a domain lapses 
 there is a certain period (detagged I think) where the domain 
 is shut off from the net but is still tied to its existing owner 

Just what I'm after, found the gory details here:
http://www.nic.uk/registrants/detagged/

That page basically says you're going to have to wait a loong time.

 If the domain is not re-registered by the end of this limbo state 
 then it comes open for purchase. Only at that stage will your 
 client be able to grab it.

That's about the size of it. Thanks for the info.

Cheers
Jon

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RE: [wdvltalk] Registering an existing domain

2006-01-23 Thread Jon Haworth
Peter,

 I think if you look at the Nominet Site, buried in there is a 
 note that you can record an interest in a name that lapses 
 with a view to doing what you want. 

Couldn't find it with a cursory hunt, but I've emailed Nominet anyway to ask
them what the best approach is. 

Will report back if they give me any details on this,

Cheers
Jon


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[wdvltalk] trying to do a simple python install on shared linux webhost via SSH

2006-01-23 Thread Peter O'Brien
Hi guys, I'm trying to do something thats probably very elemtary but  
i'm stuck, can anyone please help?


I'm trying to install Moin (an opensource wiki creator) via on my  
linux webhost via Terminal over SSH.


I have the following line as an example in the help docs:
python setup.py --quiet install --prefix=$HOME --record=install.log

so in trying to do the substitution I put:
python /Users/me/Desktop/moin/setup.py --quiet install --prefix=$HOME  
--record=install.log


but I get the error:
python: can't open file '/Users/pete/Desktop/moin/setup.py'

should I be including localhost or my ip in the reference?

also will i need to change $HOME to something like my public root  
folder  '/htdocs/' ? or my full website path?


Any help or advice much appreciated.  Thanks.

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RE: [wdvltalk] Registering an existing domain

2006-01-23 Thread Gerenday, Perry (P.)
 -Original Message-
 From: Ross Clutterbuck

 If the domain is not re-registered by the end of this limbo state 
 then it comes open for purchase. 
 Only at that stage will your client be able to grab it.


There was an article on Sitepoint I recently read about expired domain
names.
I forgot to renew my domain on the first of January this year, and a couple
weeks later was able to renew it. I assume, due to the grace period.
This is a little outdated but may give you some insight.
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/period-farce-exposed

Thanks,
Perry Gerenday
www.webinitiative.net

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