[wdvltalk] Re: questions on ASP.net

2002-10-24 Thread darren
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 20:02, Diane Schips wrote:

DS For example, ASP.net (supposedly) maintains session state much better,

ohhh it does!!  you now have three different ways that you can maintain
state.  the usual in-process method used by classic asp, which is really
tricky to get to work over a web farm.  an out of process state server
that can manage the state for any number of machines.  and if you're
using mssql as your db, then it can be used to manage state...all without
any extra coding

DS but it uses cookies to do so.

it places a session cookie on the users machine.  as the name suggests,
this vanishes when the session ends.

DS What about browsers that don't support cookies for whatever reason?

you can tell the web-app to use a cookieless method that appends a
session id to the end of the querystring for all users.

DS Does the security really work better?

in what way??  setting up secure sites is very easy, and pretty secure
and again, very little extra code for you to write.

DS Supposedly, ASP.net will adjust to any browser - how well does that
DS really work?

i'm guessing you mean with the rich controls??  things like the
calender??  it sort-of works!  if you're using ie you get the full js
enabled whistles and bells version.  if you're using anything else you
don't!!

there are several components that have replaced the standard ms js with
cross browser stuff, so now you can use the validation controls with
client-side validation on all browsers.

hth,

darren


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[wdvltalk] Re: questions on ASP.net

2002-10-23 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Diane,

 I just bought Visual Studio.net

It's a *fantastic* IDE. I'm still getting to grips with it but I'm starting
to think it could well be the third thing I like that MS have done :-)

 ASP.net (supposedly) maintains session state
 much better, but it uses cookies to do so.

Sure, it needs to make sure the session ID is there for the next page.

 What about browsers that don't support cookies?

The site at where I work (http://www.witanjardine.co.uk/, and I didn't have
anything to do with it) is written in standard ASP, and if you visit it
without cookies, you just get a session ID automatically stuck on the end of
each URL. I imagine this is done automatically when IIS serves up the page
(PHP works in exactly this way).

Visitors with cookies will see:
  http://example.com/url

And visitors without will see:
  http://example.com/url?sessionID=oneOfThoseMicrosoftGUIDs

I'm not absolutely certain this is how ASP.NET does it, but I'll be amazed
if it's substantially different.

Cheers
Jon





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[wdvltalk] Re: questions on ASP.net

2002-10-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
I've had VS.NET since last April but I have yet to come to grips with
the interface. Got any good book suggestion?

I've seen what it can do for someone who understand the IDE but that
person isn't me. I always end up giving up after an hour (sometimes 2)
of frustration and go back to coding it either by hand or using
Dreamweaver MX.

I *hated* Visual Studio 6 and Visual InterDev so that maybe part of the
problem.

Cheryl D. Wise
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-Original Message-
From: Jon Haworth

 I just bought Visual Studio.net

It's a *fantastic* IDE. I'm still getting to grips with it but I'm
starting to think it could well be the third thing I like that MS have
done :-)


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