[web2py] Re: Can web2py have a microframework the way Laravel has Lumen?
Giovanni (weppy developer) and the web2py community are already cooperating since he is the leading force behind pydal and de fact maintainer of pydal. I have not looked at the code recently but I trust Giovanni's skills completely and from what I have seen, I am sure it is excellent. It is a different architecture then web2py and things like the web2py admin interface would not work well with weppy. The hot plug and play mechanism for installing applications does not work with weppy. So think they will peacefully coexist in parallel and users will choose what they like best. Massimo On Friday, 21 August 2015 07:47:02 UTC-5, Mirek Zvolský wrote: weppy.org ? Great. be aware that the only overlap with web2py is the DAL And templating. And more... I think, Massimo, this is hard question for you. If it is really well written, will you fork it? Or cooperate? I don't understand technical details much, but I know that lot of people don't want hear about Web2py because of model/controller execution in the pre-build environment. I have nothing against such execution, but I have to ask, if Web2py model/controller execution is a so large technical advantage, if this advantage is worth to loose developers (maybe much reserved developers, but..). And I don't know if current model/controller execution will be easy to convert to Py3. So I can very good understand reasons for Weppy experiment. Dne čtvrtek 20. srpna 2015 21:09:17 UTC+2 Massimo Di Pierro napsal(a): gluino is an experiment and not maintained at this point. weppy is good but be aware that the only overlap with web2py is the DAL. We always shipped with this: https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/scripts/make_min_web2py.py It does not quite fit the bill and probably needs to be revised. On Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:31:50 UTC-5, JorgeH wrote: What about in the admin app of web2py, along with the options 'pack custom' , 'compile', etc.. would be another option like 'export to minimum' or something. where an app would be exported with the minimum of imports and can be deployed like a bottle or flask app. Just an idea. Gluino is as you say, a good starting point. Much better is http://weppy.org/ Giovanni has done and excellent work, but unfortunately , he changed some method and validator names to fit his criteria. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-5, Anthony wrote: Maybe a starting point: https://github.com/mdipierro/gluino On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-4, JorgeH wrote: Hello Can web2py have something like http://lumen.laravel.com/ So it can have the easiness of coding and the speed of request/seconds as microframeworks like bottle and the alike? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [web2py] Re: Can web2py have a microframework the way Laravel has Lumen?
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 9:29:25 AM UTC-4, Carlos Cesar Caballero wrote: I think that the answer is pretty simple (but I am not a web2py core developer, so I am pretty sure if I'm wrong somebody is going to correct me), the current model/controller execution is better for coding, because there is no need of constantly importing things, but is very expensive in performance because every request runs all the code Keep in mind that you can move as much code as you want (including all model definitions) to modules and import, just as in other frameworks. That just leaves the controller to execute, which can be sped up by bytecode compiling. I'm sure there is some performance hit, but I haven't seen benchmarks showing how much. Anthony -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Can web2py have a microframework the way Laravel has Lumen?
weppy.org ? Great. be aware that the only overlap with web2py is the DAL And templating. And more... I think, Massimo, this is hard question for you. If it is really well written, will you fork it? Or cooperate? I don't understand technical details much, but I know that lot of people don't want hear about Web2py because of model/controller execution in the pre-build environment. I have nothing against such execution, but I have to ask, if Web2py model/controller execution is a so large technical advantage, if this advantage is worth to loose developers (maybe much reserved developers, but..). And I don't know if current model/controller execution will be easy to convert to Py3. So I can very good understand reasons for Weppy experiment. Dne čtvrtek 20. srpna 2015 21:09:17 UTC+2 Massimo Di Pierro napsal(a): gluino is an experiment and not maintained at this point. weppy is good but be aware that the only overlap with web2py is the DAL. We always shipped with this: https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/scripts/make_min_web2py.py It does not quite fit the bill and probably needs to be revised. On Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:31:50 UTC-5, JorgeH wrote: What about in the admin app of web2py, along with the options 'pack custom' , 'compile', etc.. would be another option like 'export to minimum' or something. where an app would be exported with the minimum of imports and can be deployed like a bottle or flask app. Just an idea. Gluino is as you say, a good starting point. Much better is http://weppy.org/ Giovanni has done and excellent work, but unfortunately , he changed some method and validator names to fit his criteria. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-5, Anthony wrote: Maybe a starting point: https://github.com/mdipierro/gluino On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-4, JorgeH wrote: Hello Can web2py have something like http://lumen.laravel.com/ So it can have the easiness of coding and the speed of request/seconds as microframeworks like bottle and the alike? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Can web2py have a microframework the way Laravel has Lumen?
gluino is an experiment and not maintained at this point. weppy is good but be aware that the only overlap with web2py is the DAL. We always shipped with this: https://github.com/web2py/web2py/blob/master/scripts/make_min_web2py.py It does not quite fit the bill and probably needs to be revised. On Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:31:50 UTC-5, JorgeH wrote: What about in the admin app of web2py, along with the options 'pack custom' , 'compile', etc.. would be another option like 'export to minimum' or something. where an app would be exported with the minimum of imports and can be deployed like a bottle or flask app. Just an idea. Gluino is as you say, a good starting point. Much better is http://weppy.org/ Giovanni has done and excellent work, but unfortunately , he changed some method and validator names to fit his criteria. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-5, Anthony wrote: Maybe a starting point: https://github.com/mdipierro/gluino On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-4, JorgeH wrote: Hello Can web2py have something like http://lumen.laravel.com/ So it can have the easiness of coding and the speed of request/seconds as microframeworks like bottle and the alike? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Can web2py have a microframework the way Laravel has Lumen?
What about in the admin app of web2py, along with the options 'pack custom' , 'compile', etc.. would be another option like 'export to minimum' or something. where an app would be exported with the minimum of imports and can be deployed like a bottle or flask app. Just an idea. Gluino is as you say, a good starting point. Much better is http://weppy.org/ Giovanni has changed some me On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-5, Anthony wrote: Maybe a starting point: https://github.com/mdipierro/gluino On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-4, JorgeH wrote: Hello Can web2py have something like http://lumen.laravel.com/ So it can have the easiness of coding and the speed of request/seconds as microframeworks like bottle and the alike? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[web2py] Re: Can web2py have a microframework the way Laravel has Lumen?
Maybe a starting point: https://github.com/mdipierro/gluino On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:45:09 AM UTC-4, JorgeH wrote: Hello Can web2py have something like http://lumen.laravel.com/ So it can have the easiness of coding and the speed of request/seconds as microframeworks like bottle and the alike? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups web2py-users group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
