Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I use features as needed in each pages. If i can figure out a way to put jqgrid to work hell , i will use full qxd ! http://qx/api/#qx.ui.embed.Html This allows you to create an HTML element you need in order to attach jqgrid. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
Sry, the API docs link was from my home server. :P Here's the correct url: http://demo.qooxdoo.org/1.2.x/apiviewer/#qx.ui.embed.Html On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I use features as needed in each pages. If i can figure out a way to put jqgrid to work hell , i will use full qxd ! http://qx/api/#qx.ui.embed.Html This allows you to create an HTML element you need in order to attach jqgrid. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
Thanks man! i am now going to build a mockup of my app using it! On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Sry, the API docs link was from my home server. :P Here's the correct url: http://demo.qooxdoo.org/1.2.x/apiviewer/#qx.ui.embed.Html On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I use features as needed in each pages. If i can figure out a way to put jqgrid to work hell , i will use full qxd ! http://qx/api/#qx.ui.embed.Html This allows you to create an HTML element you need in order to attach jqgrid. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks man! i am now going to build a mockup of my app using it! No problem. Good luck! -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
The syntax of qooxdoo is almost java .. On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: yes , all your points are good. But jq+jqueryui allows to build something really cool stuff like jqgrid which is superb.I had check and qooxdoo's table is not even half of jqgrid capabilities. I just wish it would be really nice if qooxdoo will support jq's themeroller.. and it will be more than perfect! I am testing qooxdoo and going to put jqGrid and autocomplete plugins in it to see how it fits :) I like both of them. On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: It's a framework. It's got its own packaging system, build system, you name it. Very powerful stuff. Plus you get an endless collection of 'stuff' to build your apps with. Amazing. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
I'm going through the examples, reading the docs, playing with the demos. I can say this with great confidence: qooxdoo is the most advanced JavaScript framework ever. It makes others look like they're from 90s. Just take a look at this: http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/inspector/ This is actually a qooxdoo debugger that loads you stuff in an iframe. While developing, you use the generator scripts that create app skeletons, imports the classes you use in your project, and can 'build' your app in the sense that it will package your application code + dependencies into a single minified JS file for maximum performance. But this beast is just not your usual JS framework. I think You must make a decision about where you want to run your app. Do you build it to run on your server (web2py + most of the JS frameworks), or do you run it inside the clients (qooxdoo + web2py or a simple CGI script even as a mere frontend for the database). With a bit of luck you may successfully build an app entirely in qooxdoo alone, using stuff like DB Relay[1]. [1] http://www.pubbs.net/201007/nginx/41781-db-relay-nginx-based-open-source-project.html On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: The syntax of qooxdoo is almost java .. On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: yes , all your points are good. But jq+jqueryui allows to build something really cool stuff like jqgrid which is superb.I had check and qooxdoo's table is not even half of jqgrid capabilities. I just wish it would be really nice if qooxdoo will support jq's themeroller.. and it will be more than perfect! I am testing qooxdoo and going to put jqGrid and autocomplete plugins in it to see how it fits :) I like both of them. On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: It's a framework. It's got its own packaging system, build system, you name it. Very powerful stuff. Plus you get an endless collection of 'stuff' to build your apps with. Amazing. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com
[web2py] Re: when to use ajax
I've been using jQuery UI and jQuery Layout. Just took a look at qooxdoo -- very cool stuff. It's a little late for me to test qooxdoo, but perhaps for my next project. Layout and UI together are quite good for multi-platform consistency. I prefer UI's look to what I've seen so far of qooxdoo, but qooxdoo has a window widget, which is something I could use. So much cool stuff ... so little time. On Dec 5, 6:21 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going through the examples, reading the docs, playing with the demos. I can say this with great confidence: qooxdoo is the most advanced JavaScript framework ever. It makes others look like they're from 90s. Just take a look at this: http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/inspector/ This is actually a qooxdoo debugger that loads you stuff in an iframe. While developing, you use the generator scripts that create app skeletons, imports the classes you use in your project, and can 'build' your app in the sense that it will package your application code + dependencies into a single minified JS file for maximum performance. But this beast is just not your usual JS framework. I think You must make a decision about where you want to run your app. Do you build it to run on your server (web2py + most of the JS frameworks), or do you run it inside the clients (qooxdoo + web2py or a simple CGI script even as a mere frontend for the database). With a bit of luck you may successfully build an app entirely in qooxdoo alone, using stuff like DB Relay[1]. [1]http://www.pubbs.net/201007/nginx/41781-db-relay-nginx-based-open-sou... On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: The syntax of qooxdoo is almost java .. On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: yes , all your points are good. But jq+jqueryui allows to build something really cool stuff like jqgrid which is superb.I had check and qooxdoo's table is not even half of jqgrid capabilities. I just wish it would be really nice if qooxdoo will support jq's themeroller.. and it will be more than perfect! I am testing qooxdoo and going to put jqGrid and autocomplete plugins in it to see how it fits :) I like both of them. On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: It's a framework. It's got its own packaging system, build system, you name it. Very powerful stuff. Plus you get an endless collection of 'stuff' to build your apps with. Amazing. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see:http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
I agree all the awesomeness and powerfulness of qxd but as i has been spoiled by jQuery and i hated java with a passion [I had to use java all previous years for a IP-Camera project ,i developed an UDP Hole punching + UPNP firewall punching + IRC Communicateble agent for camera and browser (Applet) ] I found syntax of qxd , unacceptable for a moment. I will try to learn it when i have spare time. One thing what its hard about it is , i dont know how to implement normal HTML stuff inside it and how to add jqgrid. i will have to research more, i guess it is not suppose to spend a lot of time . Yes my application , developing currently really need UI Framework like that. It is completely a web application , which need desktop like features. i am even thinking i may use flex for it in next version. It is a Forensic File indexing and search engine + Review platform. On 12/6/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going through the examples, reading the docs, playing with the demos. I can say this with great confidence: qooxdoo is the most advanced JavaScript framework ever. It makes others look like they're from 90s. Just take a look at this: http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/inspector/ This is actually a qooxdoo debugger that loads you stuff in an iframe. While developing, you use the generator scripts that create app skeletons, imports the classes you use in your project, and can 'build' your app in the sense that it will package your application code + dependencies into a single minified JS file for maximum performance. But this beast is just not your usual JS framework. I think You must make a decision about where you want to run your app. Do you build it to run on your server (web2py + most of the JS frameworks), or do you run it inside the clients (qooxdoo + web2py or a simple CGI script even as a mere frontend for the database). With a bit of luck you may successfully build an app entirely in qooxdoo alone, using stuff like DB Relay[1]. [1] http://www.pubbs.net/201007/nginx/41781-db-relay-nginx-based-open-source-project.html On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: The syntax of qooxdoo is almost java .. On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: yes , all your points are good. But jq+jqueryui allows to build something really cool stuff like jqgrid which is superb.I had check and qooxdoo's table is not even half of jqgrid capabilities. I just wish it would be really nice if qooxdoo will support jq's themeroller.. and it will be more than perfect! I am testing qooxdoo and going to put jqGrid and autocomplete plugins in it to see how it fits :) I like both of them. On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: It's a framework. It's got its own packaging system, build system, you name it. Very powerful stuff. Plus you get an endless collection of 'stuff' to build your apps with. Amazing. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree all the awesomeness and powerfulness of qxd but as i has been spoiled by jQuery and i hated java with a passion [I had to use java all previous years for a IP-Camera project ,i developed an UDP Hole punching + UPNP firewall punching + IRC Communicateble agent for camera and browser (Applet) ] I found syntax of qxd , unacceptable for a moment. I've learned some time ago, that appearances are deceiving. You miss out on a lot of fun if you concern yourself with such things as syntax. Erlang has a syntax that looks rather scary at first glance, but underneath that appearance you find one of the most advanced programming languages today. I will try to learn it when i have spare time. Just so you know, the example twitter app is now broken because of the twitter API change. They almost promised the app won't be fixed any time soon, because the fix requires the mandatory Oauth, which would make a tutorial on its own. One thing what its hard about it is , i dont know how to implement normal HTML stuff inside it You don't. :) qxd is for fat-client apps, and you don't need much HTML there. I actually fully agree with this. If you want to make a desktop-like application, you really don't need to worry about CSS nad HTML. You need a standard way to create windows, add buttons, and the actual looks are mere skins (just like GTK or QT themes). Yes my application , developing currently really need UI Framework like that. It is completely a web application , which need desktop like features. i am even thinking i may use flex for it in next version. It is a Forensic File indexing and search engine + Review platform. Sounds like a job for qooxdoo. :P Believe me, if you go into larger (or even medium size) apps where you have multiple types of windows, each with tons of different widgets, keeping stuff organized the way they are organized in qooxdoo (i.e., well) is a great speed-up, especially if you take into account the namespace issues, asynchronous execution, etc. You just don't want to mess with these things. I thought Dojo was a good thing at the beginning, but even that gets out of hand at some point because it lacks the organizational structure to support your UI. qxd even has 3rd party GUI designers[1] available thanks thanks to its great organization of code. Also, take a look at one of the real-life examples of qooxdoo in action. It's GMX[2], a free e-mail service. I've signed up to see what it's like, and I was pretty amazed by how well it works considering it's all JavaScript-driven and all. [1] http://qxrad.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.gmx.com/ -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
You don't. :) qxd is for fat-client apps, and you don't need much HTML there. I actually fully agree with this. If you want to make a desktop-like application, you really don't need to worry about CSS nad HTML. You need a standard way to create windows, add buttons, and the actual looks are mere skins (just like GTK or QT themes). So it seems that it will need to hack around pretty much to put jqGrid inside one of the qooxdoo window. as jqGrid need an element with an id which can be slected by jquery. Nice: [1] http://qxrad.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.gmx.com/ I am checking them out! On 12/6/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree all the awesomeness and powerfulness of qxd but as i has been spoiled by jQuery and i hated java with a passion [I had to use java all previous years for a IP-Camera project ,i developed an UDP Hole punching + UPNP firewall punching + IRC Communicateble agent for camera and browser (Applet) ] I found syntax of qxd , unacceptable for a moment. I've learned some time ago, that appearances are deceiving. You miss out on a lot of fun if you concern yourself with such things as syntax. Erlang has a syntax that looks rather scary at first glance, but underneath that appearance you find one of the most advanced programming languages today. I will try to learn it when i have spare time. Just so you know, the example twitter app is now broken because of the twitter API change. They almost promised the app won't be fixed any time soon, because the fix requires the mandatory Oauth, which would make a tutorial on its own. One thing what its hard about it is , i dont know how to implement normal HTML stuff inside it You don't. :) qxd is for fat-client apps, and you don't need much HTML there. I actually fully agree with this. If you want to make a desktop-like application, you really don't need to worry about CSS nad HTML. You need a standard way to create windows, add buttons, and the actual looks are mere skins (just like GTK or QT themes). Yes my application , developing currently really need UI Framework like that. It is completely a web application , which need desktop like features. i am even thinking i may use flex for it in next version. It is a Forensic File indexing and search engine + Review platform. Sounds like a job for qooxdoo. :P Believe me, if you go into larger (or even medium size) apps where you have multiple types of windows, each with tons of different widgets, keeping stuff organized the way they are organized in qooxdoo (i.e., well) is a great speed-up, especially if you take into account the namespace issues, asynchronous execution, etc. You just don't want to mess with these things. I thought Dojo was a good thing at the beginning, but even that gets out of hand at some point because it lacks the organizational structure to support your UI. qxd even has 3rd party GUI designers[1] available thanks thanks to its great organization of code. Also, take a look at one of the real-life examples of qooxdoo in action. It's GMX[2], a free e-mail service. I've signed up to see what it's like, and I was pretty amazed by how well it works considering it's all JavaScript-driven and all. [1] http://qxrad.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.gmx.com/ -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems that it will need to hack around pretty much to put jqGrid inside one of the qooxdoo window. as jqGrid need an element with an id which can be slected by jquery. What's the deal with jqGrid? There's a qxd grid, too. Maybe you could use that. http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/demobrowser/#table~Table.html Pretty awesome isn't it? :) Since it's a widget, you can bind data to it so it fills in from a remote source (called store in qxd). So you basically set up a store, and use the controller to glue the store to the table, in an event-driven manner if you please. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
Yes i already checked and tested. I used many Many features out of jqgrid : Local Filtering , Multi Select , Sorting , Theme Roller , Subgrid , Real Grid as Sub Grid , Tree Grid , inplace editing, Dynamic Dataloading on Scroll, Custom buttons. qxd Table do not have cool pager jqgrid have. I use features as needed in each pages. If i can figure out a way to put jqgrid to work hell , i will use full qxd ! On 12/6/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems that it will need to hack around pretty much to put jqGrid inside one of the qooxdoo window. as jqGrid need an element with an id which can be slected by jquery. What's the deal with jqGrid? There's a qxd grid, too. Maybe you could use that. http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/demobrowser/#table~Table.html Pretty awesome isn't it? :) Since it's a widget, you can bind data to it so it fills in from a remote source (called store in qxd). So you basically set up a store, and use the controller to glue the store to the table, in an event-driven manner if you please. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: when to use ajax
instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
The difference between frameworks like Dojo, qooxdoo, extJS on one hand, and jQUI on the other is that the former are complete GUI toolkits, whereas jQUI is a mere collection widgets. It's a difference between plastic surgery and makeup. Some of the stuff jQUI is missing: * coross-browser form elements (as in looks the same and works the same across browsers) * panels and layout modules * menu bars and context menus * tree view * i18 and l10 * (your favourite feature here) What is worse is that jQUI is not even trying to get there. And before someone points out a 3rd party plugin that does all of above, my experience is that such features are better when they are supported by the main developers. Supported packages tend to be of higher quality and bugs get squatted faster. So unless jQUI becomes a GUI toolkit, I don't think jQuery will be a good choice for rapid development of fat-clients. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
It's a framework. It's got its own packaging system, build system, you name it. Very powerful stuff. Plus you get an endless collection of 'stuff' to build your apps with. Amazing. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
yes , all your points are good. But jq+jqueryui allows to build something really cool stuff like jqgrid which is superb.I had check and qooxdoo's table is not even half of jqgrid capabilities. I just wish it would be really nice if qooxdoo will support jq's themeroller.. and it will be more than perfect! I am testing qooxdoo and going to put jqGrid and autocomplete plugins in it to see how it fits :) I like both of them. On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: It's a framework. It's got its own packaging system, build system, you name it. Very powerful stuff. Plus you get an endless collection of 'stuff' to build your apps with. Amazing. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I just check qooxdoo , it seems very powerful.. What jslib it based on? jq? mootoo? or nothing at all? On 12/5/10, Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarl...@gmail.com wrote: Why nobody uses JQUI ? http://jqueryui.com yes extJS and other UI frameworks have already build UIs , but if you want to build something from scratch jqui provide you all the stuff you need. It have very powerful CSS Framework. I found it very easy/productive to use, and themeroller rocks! On 12/5/10, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: OMG! I'm definitely using this for admin2! I've just started the Hello World tutorial. I can't believe the attention it's been given... /me drops jaw On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome feature set. On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mengu whalb...@gmail.com wrote: instead of extjs i can happily recommend you using qooxdoo. see: http://qooxdoo.org On Dec 3, 11:10 pm, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guildhttp://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
[web2py] Re: when to use ajax
If you *really* want it to be like a desktop app you should have a look at Ext JS from Sencha. It's quite a bit more involved but can support some very rich interfaces.
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
http://www.dynarchlib.com/ very well designed 2010/12/3 pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com: If you *really* want it to be like a desktop app you should have a look at Ext JS from Sencha. It's quite a bit more involved but can support some very rich interfaces.
[web2py] Re: when to use ajax
Took a quick look at dynarchlib, looks great and BSD licensed. I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? On Dec 3, 8:58 am, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dynarchlib.com/ very well designed 2010/12/3 pbreit pbreitenb...@gmail.com: If you *really* want it to be like a desktop app you should have a look at Ext JS from Sencha. It's quite a bit more involved but can support some very rich interfaces.
Re: [web2py] Re: when to use ajax
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:04 PM, ron_m ron.mco...@gmail.com wrote: I would be careful on the licensing of Ext JS, wasn't this the one that caused some concerns a couple of years ago when they switched as they became popular with the GWT users? They require you to release your _application_ code if you want to use Ext.JS with open-source license. It's kind of like GPL on steroids. :) Btw, I've been using Mootools for a while. Very pythonic. I absolutely love it. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) I hang out on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/foxbunny Gimp Brushmakers Guild http://bit.ly/gbg-group
