Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netwrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Define Java for the GUI. Swing? Some other Web framework? Plain JSP? - Mail original - De: Ada mersi...@gmail.com À: Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net Cc: Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mardi 15 Avril 2014 15:48:23 Objet: Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: blockquote Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated /blockquote ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
On 2014-04-15, 12:48 PM, Ada wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. And WO is Pure Java, so what is the problem? You wan’t to move to Tapestry? JSP? I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. WOLips is just a _development time_ plugin for Eclipse. It is the IDE! You can develop WebObjects without it, but it is a lot more work. You can develop WebObject with emacs and Ant if you really want the pain. WOLips is NOT used for deployed apps. Chuck On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/aaron%40chatnbike.com This email sent to aa...@chatnbike.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/aaron%40chatnbike.com This email sent to aa...@chatnbike.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, *AARON ROSENZWEIG* / Chat 'n Bike http://www.chatnbike.com/ *e:* aa...@chatnbike.com *t:* (301) 956-2319 [image: Chat 'n Bike][image: Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/aaron%40chatnbike.com This email sent to aa...@chatnbike.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com This email sent to li...@thetimmy.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list.
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Because WebObjects is written in Java, it can pretty much run anywhere you need it to. We almost exclusively deploy our applications on Linux, but there are others who deploy on Windows (we call them crazy though :D). There was a restriction in the license (I don't remember if this ever changed) that required you to do development on a Mac OS X box, but I know there are devs that do development on other platforms. -Lon On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.comwrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, *AARON ROSENZWEIG* / Chat 'n Bike http://www.chatnbike.com/ *e:* aa...@chatnbike.com *t:* (301) 956-2319 [image: Chat 'n Bike][image: Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) -- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bikehttp://www.chatnbike.com/ e: aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319tel:%28301%29%20956-2319 [Chat 'n Bike] [Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.commailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.commailto:mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.commailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
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Lon, wow! I didn't now that. What about Java Monitor where you control the WebObjects instances running and the WOTaskD? Do you still need to have them on your linux box? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.comwrote: Because WebObjects is written in Java, it can pretty much run anywhere you need it to. We almost exclusively deploy our applications on Linux, but there are others who deploy on Windows (we call them crazy though :D). There was a restriction in the license (I don't remember if this ever changed) that required you to do development on a Mac OS X box, but I know there are devs that do development on other platforms. -Lon On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.comwrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, *AARON ROSENZWEIG* / Chat 'n Bike http://www.chatnbike.com/ *e:* aa...@chatnbike.com *t:* (301) 956-2319 [image: Chat 'n Bike][image: Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Those are also pure Java WebObjects applications. You can use Apache’d mod_proxy if you really need to not use them. On 2014-04-15, 5:16 PM, Ada wrote: Lon, wow! I didn't now that. What about Java Monitor where you control the WebObjects instances running and the WOTaskD? Do you still need to have them on your linux box? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Lon Varscsak lon.varsc...@gmail.commailto:lon.varsc...@gmail.com wrote: Because WebObjects is written in Java, it can pretty much run anywhere you need it to. We almost exclusively deploy our applications on Linux, but there are others who deploy on Windows (we call them crazy though :D). There was a restriction in the license (I don't remember if this ever changed) that required you to do development on a Mac OS X box, but I know there are devs that do development on other platforms. -Lon On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.commailto:mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) -- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bikehttp://www.chatnbike.com/ e: aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319tel:%28301%29%20956-2319 [Chat 'n Bike] [Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.commailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.commailto:mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netwrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.comwrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, *AARON ROSENZWEIG* / Chat 'n Bike http://www.chatnbike.com/ *e:* aa...@chatnbike.com *t:* (301) 956-2319 %28301%29%20956-2319 [image: Chat 'n Bike] [image: Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
So I should be able to take this app as it stands now and deploy it on a linux box without any code change if I wanted to? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netwrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.comwrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, *AARON ROSENZWEIG* / Chat 'n Bike http://www.chatnbike.com/ *e:* aa...@chatnbike.com *t:* (301) 956-2319 %28301%29%20956-2319 [image: Chat 'n Bike] [image: Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
Re: Convert WebObjects app to pure java
You probably also want to update to 5.4.3 which has some useful bug fixes. See Getting Started here http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/WEB/Home WebObjects was pure Java by the start of the Mac Intel era. Chuck On 2014-04-15, 5:24 PM, Ada wrote: Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) -- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bikehttp://www.chatnbike.com/ e: aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319tel:%28301%29%20956-2319 [Chat 'n Bike] [Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.commailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.commailto:mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev
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Yes. On 2014-04-15, 5:25 PM, Ada wrote: So I should be able to take this app as it stands now and deploy it on a linux box without any code change if I wanted to? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.commailto:mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) -- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.commailto:li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bikehttp://www.chatnbike.com/ e: aa...@chatnbike.commailto:aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319tel:%28301%29%20956-2319 [Chat 'n Bike] [Chat 'n Bike] On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.commailto:dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.commailto:mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netmailto:ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
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Ada, As long as your app is platform agnostic (i.e, not using JNI to call platform specific code etc), then you should have no problem moving to non OS X for deployment. In fact after the demise of the Xserve, many folks in the community shifted their deployment to some form of linux distro. Many are deploying in the cloud or on commodity hardware in co-lo facilities. When we made the move, we had some native image resizing code we needed to revise, but other than that moving to Linode for deployment for us was pretty straightforward. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: Yes. On 2014-04-15, 5:25 PM, Ada wrote: So I should be able to take this app as it stands now and deploy it on a linux box without any code change if I wanted to? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill
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Yes: http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Linux With the packages, it will take five minutes. Proof? http://wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2014/Linux.mp4 So I should be able to take this app as it stands now and deploy it on a linux box without any code change if I wanted to? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list
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Thank you so much! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: Yes: http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Deploying+on+Linux With the packages, it will take five minutes. Proof? http://wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2014/Linux.mp4 So I should be able to take this app as it stands now and deploy it on a linux box without any code change if I wanted to? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, I guess I'd have to go back tomorrow and Check my WO version, but my gut feeling tells me it is 5.4.2, that was the version released in late '07 early '08 that supported the Mac Intels. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: Hi, On 2014-04-15, 4:48 PM, Ada wrote: Thanks all for the responses! Some answers to your questions: I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-)-- Yes, can no longer run WO on my current machine. It is dying, and cannot patch it with anymore old parts. Plain JSP is what I am thinking of switching to. The reason we're stripping out the webobjects from the code is due to the server it lies on. It is running on a decade old mac, version 10.5.8. My understanding is that i cannot run a webobjects app on a windows box (or maybe Red Hat)? Am I correct with my thoughts on that? If you are running WebObjects 5.4.x, then it will run on any box with JDK 1.5 – 1.7 (not sure about 1.8). If you meant WebObjects 4.5.x then that is Objective-C based and you have a much worse problem. As of version 5.0, WebObjects is pure java. Chuck I need a simple Java framework to convert all the code in, JSP is what I first thought of, but I'm open to suggestions. The application listserv type app, where users are creating, adding, removing people form listservs. As, one of you mentioned it does use the EOF, so I would need to rewrite that, and I don't know much as to what it is involved in there eitehr either. Any guidance as to what to expect would be greatly appreciated. Apologies for the confusing questions. Thank you all! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Golipse should install Eclipse 3.8.2, WOLips, and some other tools, etc. Tim On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: Hi Ada, Hey sorry… so many responses and we’re all confused. I think what you are saying is that you were using Apple Development tools including Xcode and WOBuilder to design your apps but now… now you’ve upgraded your Mac and you can’t run them anymore…. You sorta know that your only choice is to go Eclipse… does this sound like your situation? I’m guessing too :-) WO 5.4 is pure java. There is nothing to convert. When you switch to Eclipse and install the WOLips plugin it will work. You don’t need to convert anything. Get Eclipse version 3.7.x and WOLips. Cheers, AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike e: aa...@chatnbike.com t: (301) 956-2319 On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:16 PM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote: WebObjects *is* pure java (there is no magic ‘other’ language or anything). It is a full web publishing stack. If you have a WebObjects application, you are probably talking to a database, if so that uses the entity relational mapping layer of WebObjects called EOF. The display layer of the stack builds UI elements using WOComponents (each comprised of a chunk of HTML, it’s associated Java and a bindings file (.wod) to tie them together), and has classes to handle session management etc. If by “pure java” you mean “unencumbered by Apple’s frameworks” then you are faced with rewriting your application to use a different ERM layer and display layer. Perhaps Tapestry/Cayenne. Regardless, this is not a simple undertaking. D On Apr 15, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Ada mersi...@gmail.com wrote: The GUI of the app is in webobjects; there's components which utilize WO. I am not sure what to expect if I were to take the code and run it on Eclipse without WOLips, I am going to try that soon, but was looking some guidance on how to rewrite the GUI (it is rather simple) into Java. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: How is it not pure Java now? Chuck On 2014-04-15, 12:25 PM, Ada wrote: Hello all, We're looking to convert one of our WebObjects Apps to pure java. Wondering if there's a tool which could help with this process. The application is running WO 5.4 on Java 5. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
