Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?
Hi David, 2010/12/12 David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz If you look at this comparative table [1], SilverStripe actually scores better than Drupal... [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms#Preconditions_to_go_live_with_one_of_the_CMS Look again ;) If questions go to http://www.libreofficeaustralia.org/richeditortest/rich-editor-test-book and http://libreofficeaustralia.org/node/51/revisions And again, you can add a lot of more advanced features if you want to. I'm leaving revision control (author-editor-publ) just because is not implemented yet, not than Drupal doesn't have that (that's basic). Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?
2010/12/12 Carlos Jenkins hastciber...@gmail.com [OT] Michael, Did you upgrade lately the Drupal modules base? The Image Resize filter is broken, I'm disabling it for now while I check what happened. Kind regards Fixed, was a configuration parameter. Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page
2010/12/8 Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.comlohmaier%2booofut...@googlemail.com Hi Carol It's Carlos, fuck, second time :S Jesus Christ Lohmaier I give you the same advice that you were giving me: Read throught the thread, then you'd have known that my solution (and the one from Stefan before) already does that from the very beginning. http://test.libreoffice.org/download-3 And does it awfull, it's this kind of interfaces just sucks. -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Download page
Samuel,
Could you add please
17a18
ua.indexOf('Iceweasel') -1 ||
I did see you updated the script so it returns just 'linux' when not
detected. Fine :D
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page
El 6 de diciembre de 2010 13:13, Samuel Gómez fuljen...@gmail.comescribió:
See:
http://vipinnova.com/libreoffice/download/package-negotiation.js
Samuel I see the script much better!
OK now, I took the most popular distros from
http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity
and made this:
if (ua.indexOf('Ubuntu') -1 ||
ua.indexOf('Mint') -1 ||
ua.indexOf('Debian') -1 ||
ua.indexOf('Arch') -1)return 'deb';
if (ua.indexOf('Fedora') -1 ||
ua.indexOf('SUSE') -1 ||
ua.indexOf('PCLinuxOS') -1 ||
ua.indexOf('Mandriva') -1)return 'rpm';
Does anyone know if any of these package manager associations is wrong?
Don't know either, but it looks good.
And, about the user agent infixes, I'm not sure of it for Arch. I'd
say the rest are OK.
Now we need just to test it. Can you provide an URL for a HTML document with
that associated JS to ask people to test it please :D
Thank you!
Thanks to you!
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Introducing myself
Hi Samuel El 5 de diciembre de 2010 13:08, Samuel Gómez fuljen...@gmail.comescribió: Excellent. I had some intense experience with Drupal last summer. Not so intense regarding modules, but I'll learn more about them. Do you have a Drupal installed somewhere for testing? http://libreofficeaustralia.org/ And welcome :D We need help on the Drupal Team. I'm a little busy right now and I'm working on a theme for LibreOffice on the Design list, I hope to have time this weekend to continue the work with Michael Wheatland and the Drupal Team. Kind regards. -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page
2010/12/7 Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com Hi, 2010/12/7 Samuel Gómez fuljen...@gmail.com: http://vipinnova.com/libreoffice/download/client-test.html Thanks Samuel. I went to this website, clicked on the demo button and the recommendation for me was deb/x86. The architecture was correct, but since I'm using Mandriva, deb isn't the right choice for me. I'm using chromium browser if this is important. Thanks Sigrid, could you provide the User Agent listed on that page please, just after It works based on your user agent string, which in your case is My recommendation was x86/deb so everything is ok, both on Chromium and Firefox Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.3 Release Candidate 1 available
Hi 2010/12/5 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ Download LibreOffice Release Candiate 1 - Candidate Typo Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page
Hi, Check the one used by Miro at line 157 of the source code: www.getmiro.com My recommendations: 1. Try not to hard to find PPC Mac OS X or something like that, try to find something small, just like Win or Mac or something like that. 2. Also, always provide an else, if did you found Linux or X11 at least give me the option to download the source code tarball, or even better, set a default package (I vote for .deb xD jejeje). I prefer that the script offers me wrongly a rpm that anything. 3. Also, separate the architecture from the OS detection and put it in the first level of the algorythm. Like so: Check for PPC, if found, you already know is MAC, so, why to search for Mac? Already display for Mac PPC. Then, check for 64bits, i think it was x86_64 1. Found? Good, now search for the OS. 2. Not found? Good, it's 32bits (no need to search nothing). Now search for the OS. // OS Seach: Win/Windows -:: Ok, found. Mac -:: Ok, found. ELSE (Linux by default (you can search for X11/Linux if you want)) -- Now decide if it's RPM or DEB Search for SLED, Fedora, etc of the distros that use RPM. (Check this one http://banshee.fm/theme/js/download.js) Not found? Ok, DEB. (As the Banshee link, if specific distros instrucciones exists, we can search for that specific distro here) :D I think is a smarter algorythm. Sorry for the pseudocode, I'm in a hurry, I hope you can understand it. OS, Arch detection si black magic, we will never get there 100%, but al least improve the one we have. This site is very usefull: http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php This is for Firefox http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Firefox/ As you can see, sometimes Debian is in the user string, sometimes not. And that also happens with others distros. Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] LibreOffice website design proposal from DrupalDevTeam
Hi everyone, Sorry for the triple cross-mailing list post, but we really need the feedback from all the teams. For the last 16 days the Drupal Development team has been working on a proposal for the website graphic design, we have had a very good feedback from all it's members and now we think we have something to present for your consideration. We have been working with a prototyping methodology, this is the third iteration of the design, there has been a lot of changes, so please check the changelog for more details. We accumulated 73 emails with comments and suggestions :P So we expect this design continues to evolve and get improved so at the end we all get to a consensus on the design and direction. Feel free to modify the design, suggest changes and post mockups :D The current design as a lot of considerations, from the perspective of the UX, demographical consideration, logical and navigation flow, screen space, disposition of elements and also from a marketing perspective (the frontpage) and the LibreOffice document metaphor. This design is inspired from the current website, branding colors and logo, so if those elements get changed the design would need to change too. What can absolutely be improved: 1. The LibO logo used is the base logo not the contemporary one, with is prettier, I hasn't able to find the SVG of that one so is had to use the base logo. 2. As stated on (1), the logos on the frontpage blocks follows the same graphic style, so, those can be improved. 3. Margins of the general document, line height and font size for better readability. I'm uploading a big tar.gz file with all the source files of all the iterations, the raster of the current one, the changelog and the current IA to my personal webserver, could someone please put this on the appropriate site, thanks in advance. http://www.cjenkins.net/files/LibO_Website_Design_Proposal_DrupalDevTeam.tar.gz sha1sum: *837d1203c863e4121ce20d219975a984053301ed* Size: 4.7MB There are two rendered images: The design of the frontpage and a general design used by all the others. So, I'm kindly asking for all the members of these team to review, comment and improve this design. When considered final, with pleasure I could implement this as a Drupal theme. Kind regards -- Carlos Jenkins http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla
2010/11/17 Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:53:19 -0800 (PST), BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: You do realize that Bugzilla and other similar tools do allow you to attach files, etc directly to the bug report, no? I.e. there is no need to have an external source to store the files. Hi, I've been using enough bugzillas to know that well. But I've also been using enough bugzillas to know that they don't do what I envision. a) No registration needed. It must be *simple* to submit a document that doesn't convert properly. b) multiple cases are not necessarily multiple bugs, so they would often have the same underlying cause and would need to be linked. c) nice inline side-by-side comparison of the rendered pages in MS Office and LO as pngs to quickly spot the differences. Actually, perhaps some issue tracker would be suitable, but I like to code simple proof-of-concept apps that demonstrate what I'd like. So any final implementation could well be a drupal module, or a bugzilla customization or whatever. As Andrea said, making this document submit is easily done in Drupal. Albeit I really would prefer the requirement the user to register. Why? We avoid spam. Also, a user who just submit a bug report but is unable to provide all the information requested (really usual) or are unable to keep tracking of the bug (like implement the recommendations or request from the people), is not really useful. We need the user to take part on that bug report. I'm assuming that if he is reporting the bug the cares little enough to keep a little track to it. If not, nothing good will happen with that bug report and in the end will be just using space in the bug tracker. My proposal as member of the Drupal Development Team is to use Project/Issues modules for Issue tracking and a custom feature to document submit. So, a common user base is shared between the website and the issue tracking software. Please check Issue module here http://drupal.org/project/project_issue and their features/way to do things here: http://drupal.org/project/issues Kind regards. -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] l10n on LibO and Drupal Website integration
Hi everyone, As I stated before, I want to configure a Drupal prototype with Localization server module for Drupal, that is the one that empowers http://localize.drupal.org/, as a possible LibreOffice translation tool totally integrated with the Drupal website (user base, login, roles, etc). I'm still a little occupied working on a graphic design proposal for the website with the other members of the Drupal development team (will be ready soon!), but when over I really want to get into this. I was a little lost some week ago trying to figure out how to translate LibO, I thought I needed to hook the /build/po/lang.po with the translation UI. But, finally, with the today announce of LibO 3.3 beta 3 I found out this documentation: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOffice/i18n/translating_3.3 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOffice/i18n/translating_3.3:D Now, I do have a more general idea. So, the purpose of this e-mail is to know if there is someone on this mailing list that know If I'm on the right way. Assumptions: 1. As stated on the previous documentation link, there is a Git hook that merges the lo-build.pot (if that file has changed) with all the .po files on each commit. I'm right? So, what we need to do is: 1. Copy all the current lo-build-lang.po from the repository to a folder where webserver has write access (for example /var/www/community-translations/) 2. Hook the Drupal UI to those .po files. 3. Configure a cron job that do a checkout of the git repository, merges all the repository lo-build-lang.po files (which has the added strings after each commit thanks to the git hook) with those translated during that day by the community (again, in, for example, /var/www/community-translations/) and then do a commit of the resultant lo-build-lang.po with a commit message like Synchronization with the translated strings from the Localization server Opinions, corrections, threats (jejeje)? Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla
2010/11/18 Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de No, you misunderstood. I don't mean bug reports. I don't want the user in participating in bug reports. I That's sad :( want to enable users to upload docs that cause them conversion trouble. And I want others to easily see where these troubles are and being to replicate them (filing real bug reports as needed). So, the work to the non lazy users xD Just kidding, I get it. This could be useful for non-technical at all users. Ok ok, you said the that it needed the ability to link both things, so I misunderstood, sorry. Yes... we can do that without requiring registration. http://drupal.org/project/issues Site off-line: The site is currently not available due to technical problems :) Try again, I can access without problems. DNS problem? Kind regards -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal Website] Reminder note re: Developing and coding
Hi everyone, 2010/11/17 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Hi Michael: Sorry, I maybe did not express myself well enough. I don't think that the devs need to be raised above all others within the community. I think that we all agree that the community is built on equality and that contributions from devs and members are equally as important. My suggestion was that in all of our discussions, we seem to have missed speaking out for the developer team and that we should be a little more sensitive to that. I don't know if there is a dev advocate on this list who is watching out for dev interests in the website development. I know that they are pretty busy coding and bug quashing right now --- I am lurking the dev mailist as well. I hadn't seen the placeholder on the Drupal site, so it is nice that this was put in for them. No need to break out the dev page. We are the LO team. Marc The current IA shows the dedicated development page/portal under Community Development, I think we maybe should also have a subdomain like dev.libreoffice.org . I expect we can build a full dedicated development portal, with lasts commits, issues, development group and mailing list. Integration of Drupal with Git still on the works and in alpha quality, like diffs and branches/tags integration with projects, we I really expect to have at least commit listing. I really would like to integrate all the aspects of the development into Drupal, to have a common user base a login. Right now the Issue tracking is taking place in a BugZilla. I know this is asking really too much, but exists the possibility to start using Issues/Project for Drupal, those are the module that empowers http://drupal.org/project/issues I don't expect current developers to configure it and set it up, but if that is done, the will be willing to use it? Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Feedback and testing on Rich Editor
Hi everyone, We think the editor of the Drupal site is ready, please could this kind community give a try and give us feedback :D The main page is here: http://libreofficeaustralia.org/richeditortest/rich-editor-test-book Please leave all the formats so we can continue testing on this page. So can create as many you want childs for testing here: http://libreofficeaustralia.org/node/add/re-test?parent=1275 Things to consider: - Full HTML is not allowed, the tags, attributes and even inline CSS styles were configured, so, if you observe that the filter is taking out a generated style please let us know. - I've selected and grouped buttons on what I think is a good balance between website security and usability of the editor. Please, if you need some other functionality let us know. - The caption and upload image feature (se below) are javascript , so not avalaible on configurations with javascript disabled. - The CSS of the images blocks and the little magnifying glass was a quick thing, I know it's not perfect. Features of the editor: - Well most of you can see. Everything should work. - You can resize the image (changing width and height), and a filter actually resizes the image and, if resized, the image links to the original. - If you put a title to and image a caption below of the image will appear. - If you don't want a caption to appear you can remove the title of the image or remove the caption class of that image. Double click Advanced Classes - The link button now has the abilitty to link easilly to internal content. Known bugs: - Inserting an image in Firefox shows a broken image. If you preview or disable/enable the editor the image appears. This is a bug in CKEditor: http://dev.ckeditor.com/ticket/5218 (Upstream bug) http://drupal.org/node/725154 (Drupal bug) - The option Cleanup styles on standard paste is enabled, but it's not working for some reason. I'll check that later, until now, you will have to use the Remove format button when copying for another web to remove the formmating or use the button Paste as text. - In-editor live image resize doesn't work on Chromium, but works on Firefox. You can resize an image on Chromium by double clicking on it and changing the values of heigth/width. Ironically, you can not resize an image in the live resizer on Firefox because of bug 1. Pending: - A more user friendly link to files. Right now you can upload files and create a link, but is not so user friendly. - I haven't defined a criteria for the search of internal linking, so everything shows up. Try typing Libre to see it work. - Lightbox on click on a image? Notes on implementation: - I've tested a lot of modules for image handling in Drupal: Image Assist http://drupal.org/project/img_assist Image browser http://drupal.org/project/imagebrowser WYSIWYG Image Upload http://drupal.org/project/wysiwyg_imageupload IMCE http://drupal.org/project/imce And discarted all of them. At the end, I implemented a custom image upload as explained here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLB9-1t_mrE That includes the modules: cck, imagefield, transliteration, image_resize_filter, insert, image_caption and lightbox I've updated this page to reflect the current state: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal_Modules#User_interface Now, some sleep. Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: ConfCall wiki page broken?
2010/11/5 Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au Sorry to jump in here, but I really dislike working with wiki markup, as I am sure a lot of others are too. Correct me if I am wrong but this problem was catalysed by someone copying and pasting markup as text inside the WYSIWYG editor. This will always happen no matter what WYSIWYG editor you use, that is exactly what it is meant to do. On Drupal I choose: Force cleanup on standard paste. So, the copied text is always forced to plain text and automatically unformated. I suppose there should be a configuration parameter on MediaWiki too. Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Drupal test site -- Proof of concept
2010/11/4 Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt 2010.11.03 17:29, Christian Lohmaier rašė: The site uses the ugly node/number scheme Just wondering: is it at all possible to avoid node/number URLS for news/blog articles in Drupal? It seems like canonical.com has this feature, but it's weird that it's not Drupal's default. Shame... Yes, no problem. Please check this e-mail I wrote some weeks ago. As Michael said, the pathauto module allow to define patterns for automatic URL naming of content types. Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?
2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2010-11-04 09.36: I pinged Manuel on IRC (he is always on) and he explained to me that misuse of the so-called FCKEditor can lead to these mistakes. He asks for permissuin to disable the FCKEditor. basically, yes, but which WYSIWYG editor does he propose? We can *not* go without that, I fear. :( Go MediaWiki pure syntax! jeje no, just kidding. But what would be fine that the user could be able to configure if he want to use the WYSIWYG editor or disable it on every edit. I had to disable the editor each time I want to edit a page or after previewing the changes. MediaWiki can do that? -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Drupal test site -- Proof of concept
2010/11/4 Carlos Jenkins hastciber...@gmail.com Yes, no problem. Please check this e-mail I wrote some weeks ago. What? I didn't include the link? I'm sorry :( There it is: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/CMS-requirements-suitability-testing-td1646785i20.html#a1690122 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/CMS-requirements-suitability-testing-td1646785i20.html#a1690122 -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Modules for Documentation Framework
Hi everyone, This cross listing post is making me crazy :P, I answered Jean post in the Documentation list: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Need-of-a-documentation-framework-for-LibreOffice-tp1811163p1840100.html Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?
2010/11/4 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org believe me - we *NEED* a WYSIWYG editor, if we want large contributions to the wiki (which we do). ;) Yes, I suppose we do :( What generated the problem on that page? I mean, yes, the editor, but what use or function or use method gave that problem? Do we know? Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?
Hi Bernhard 2010/11/4 Dr. Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at I disabled it in my user preferences, so I can use the MediaWiki syntax I got used to at the OOo wiki site (I know that is not, what the normal user wants, but I couldn't find out in reasonable time how to position graphics beside text, create galleries and such) Ups, my bad :S Didn't see that option. Fixed! Preferences - Edition - Disable Rich Editor if anyone want to disable it too. Thanks! -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Drupal test site -- Proof of concept
2010/11/4 Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com Hi Michael, just a small addition concerning the logo - I've created some logos that are pixel perfect and usable for a certain size. So if you see a logo on any website that might be useful for you, there is a good chance that I'll find it on my disk drive :-) Cheers, Christoph Hey! That would be great! Didi you share it with the marketing people? Maybe they will do a good use of them. Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Modules for Documentation Framework
Hi! 2010/11/3 Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Carlos Jenkins wrote: This list looks very good! Thanks! :D I suppose we're looking at Drupal 6 for the site, but is there a chance Drupal 7 and updated modules will be ready in time for us to use it from the beginning? Not sure, it's a possibility we need to analyse. If chosen, Drupal 7 will help us to prolong the life frame of the website framework. I'm actually worried that when Drupal 7 comes out, all modules we need doesn't have a version for Drupal 7/not equivalent modules are avalaible, and that those module where not tested enough as they are just been started to get used in production sites (as the release of Drupal 7). I suppose Drupal 7 will come with a migration plan and facilities for people using Drupal 6. My proposal, for now, would be to build things in Drupal 6, then, when Drupal 7 is released, wait a prudence time to allow modules to get migrated and improved and tested, and then, make a migration plan and execute it. Where are talking about 1 and a half or 2 years maybe. My two cents. Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Modules for Documentation Framework
Thanks Marc, I've already market that mail for analyse. I'll write a comment later night. Cheers 2010/11/3 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Le 2010-11-03 08:00, Carlos Jenkins a écrit : Hi! 2010/11/3 Benjamin Horstbho...@mac.com On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Carlos Jenkins wrote: This list looks very good! Thanks! :D I suppose we're looking at Drupal 6 for the site, but is there a chance Drupal 7 and updated modules will be ready in time for us to use it from the beginning? Not sure, it's a possibility we need to analyse. If chosen, Drupal 7 will help us to prolong the life frame of the website framework. I'm actually worried that when Drupal 7 comes out, all modules we need doesn't have a version for Drupal 7/not equivalent modules are avalaible, and that those module where not tested enough as they are just been started to get used in production sites (as the release of Drupal 7). I suppose Drupal 7 will come with a migration plan and facilities for people using Drupal 6. My proposal, for now, would be to build things in Drupal 6, then, when Drupal 7 is released, wait a prudence time to allow modules to get migrated and improved and tested, and then, make a migration plan and execute it. Where are talking about 1 and a half or 2 years maybe. My two cents. Cheers Hi Carlos, you may want to check out another long response from Jean Hollis Weber in the documentation mailist. Here it is: == On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 20:56 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Jean Thanks for your answers and all of the other documentation team answers. This is really a lot of good information. If only there were enough members to do all that we wanted. Let's hope that with LibO more people will come on-board for help with the documentation team. I am guessing the the US and Canadian have not really been tapped and I am also guessing the Mexico is probably the same. Once we organise and market we will hopefully get more people on board. We actually have a lot of volunteers at OOoAuthors, but only 10 or so of them do much of anything. Most of that 10 do excellent work (mainly editing and reviewing, but also some writing) but they are not available as much as is needed. Could you tell me (I am also a the LibO Marketing Team member) how many more members you would need at this point, what type of qualifications they should have? Ideally, how many would the documentation team need? Ideally, for the user guides we need 5 coordinator/ editor/ publishers (I don't really know what to call them) -- 1 for each book -- and I don't know how many doing the writing/ editing/ reviewing/ indexing/ graphics. I would like to see each chapter have someone taking responsibility for keeping it up to date, though obviously one person could take on several chapters, either in one book or a series of related chapters in several books: for example, all the chapters on customizing or all the chapters on printing PDF creation. That would maximize consistency with the least effort. So... maybe 20 people? (And I'm not considering other types of docs, such as FAQs, tutorials, how-tos, etc.) This page has more info than you want, but one relevant part is the list of things we do when publishing a chapter or a book. There is a lot of post-processing related to where the files are put, wikifying them, etc. Even if much of this can be (semi-)automated, someone has to start the process and verify that it has completed correctly. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Producing_User_Guides I don't care about qualifications as such, but volunteers really need some basic skills that are often lacking but can be highly developed in people with no formal quals. aside Most volunteers say they will proofread but what we need most is people to do research, write, and critically review/test what others have written. Cleaning up the English when the facts are wrong isn't much help. Much of the work requires good analytical problem-solving skills or else it's done too superficially and misses too many errors, omissions, and important inconsistencies (such as, does the figure actually show what the text says it shows? If not, which is wrong? Are the instructions complete, correct, and written at an appropriate level for the audience?), not nitpicking over fine points of grammar or word choice. Technical writing/ editing/ indexing/ graphics experience can be valuable but IMO is not necessary. Also, many people with weak skills in English make excellent reviewers/testers and often good writers (though they need to be teamed with an editor) -- because they can do research, organize the material, check facts, etc. /aside Also do you know if the developer docs have a workflow page and could you point me to this page? I don't know, sorry. Someone who has worked in that area might know. Clayton (the other
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: dedicated web server on its way
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Re: [libreoffice-website] rollover buttons
2010/11/1 Matthew Carroll m...@tthew.org.uk:
Hi
It's been a while since I saw quite such clunky rollover buttons, e.g.
on the home page and download pages. It's fairly trivial to do this with
a single image, avoiding the delay while the rollover loads the first
time:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Css_Rollovers
Matthew
+1 I also noted that. But since this is a temporal site, I didn't say
anything. There is no previous image, just a new image on the
rollover, so I think the option of two images in one a changing the
image-position doesn't apply.
This is my fix, in style.css put:
#nav li a {
[...]
[+] background:transparent
url(/img/controls/ControlElement_Tab_Complete_Mouseover.png) no-repeat
scroll 0 -100px;
}
#nav li a:hover {
[-] background: #18a303;
[-] background:
url(/img/controls/ControlElement_Tab_Complete_Mouseover.png)
no-repeat;
[+] background-position: 0 0;
}
Others solutions are welcome. This one preloads the image so you need
just to move it.
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Modified website design proposal
2010/10/31 Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au After receiving such a warm welcome from some of the website design team I got to work creating a refined website proposal using Ben's wireframe structure as a base. Please have a look: http://goo.gl/qbGe I would expect that I could set this up in Drupal within 2 weeks if pushed. Any comments that you have you can either voice here or on my wiki talk page. The plan is that I will start to work on this Drupal structure in about 2 days and have an bare bones beta site up and running by the weekend on my own hosting, which can later be transferred to another host/domain. Any and all constructive comments are welcomed Note: I am a drupal CMS only guy, I would love to help with the short term implementation on silverstripe as decided by the steering committee but as with most web developers I have no experience with this CMS. I am only working on the longer term vision that was described in the steering committee phone conference. Wow, I really liked that IA :) Good work. But I'm missing the website as a tool part Actually, I want to implement http://drupal.org/project/l10n_server for in-website code base translation. Where we could put it? Contribute? Again, I really liked it :D Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS
I was also supporting Drupal, trying to explain what features or modules could we use on a Drupal site. On my last e-mail I think I did pointed out that every of the needs we have (or a least has been pointed out) can be covered with Drupal, even with specific modules names. So, If we recheck the whole thread, I think that Drupal is the consensus, except for Christian. This demonstrate one very important thing that has already been pointed out: community members that are capable to support the site and community around the software. Christian, after your suggestion that e-mail confirmation on register wasn't on Drupal I'm pretty sure you don't know Drupal, not even in a superficial way. I, myself, has tested Silverstripe as I didn't know it, but simple there is nothing like drush+cck+views. Benjamin Horst, Keith Williams and maybe Andrea Pescetti has already started to build a demo site, please wait for them. I can't help you right now guys, sorry. No bad reviews has been pointed out to Drupal, but for Silverstripe is quite different, several opinions and one link has been provided to help make the decision. As Bejamin wrote on the other thread: Please do not just go ahead with this because you want to get it done. It's really important to thoroughly review the options and honestly take the community's feedback into consideration. Cheers -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS
Hi Christian, Citation please, I never wrote that. I wrote that this is something lacking on silverstripe, the one thing that I disliked, but also one I don't deem very important, as approval for members (granting them write/modification rights) is to be requeste/approved by the project-leads anyway. But we where talking about user registration. Citation: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/msg00181.html Should not be hard to modify the existing form to use it, it's just not available by default. On Drupal? Yes, it is available by default... well, if you mean by default things available on the core system. What bad review of silverstipe has been pointed out on this list? http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/msg00178.html Anyway, do whatever you like. I really don't care anymore :) -- http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] CMS requirements / suitability testing
, but nevertheless an important topic http://drupal.org/project/wysiwyg http://drupal.org/project/wysiwygYou can use TinyMCE, I don't like it, I prefer CKEditor http://ckeditor.com/ .All this are supported: Editors: CKEditor, FCKeditor, jWysiwyg, markItUp, NicEdit, openWYSIWYG, TinyMCE, Whizzywig, WYMeditor, YUI editor. Those are the basic requirements that come to my mind, now to stuff it doesn't need to provide: * an own wiki Specialized wiki-software is always superior Sure, I agree. You can do interesting thing with MediaWiki and Drupal integration: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DrupalIntegration http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AuthDrupal * own Forum See wiki * random other addition (blog, whatever) see wiki / we have dedicated planet The only drawback of silverstripe I found sofar is user account creation/validation. By default the email is not verified by sending a probe, thus a user can create an account with an email-address that he/she doesn't own. Only burden is a captcha. This puts a little burden on the administrators to double check Drupal can send e-mail for validation if you want to and configured that way. Didn't understand about the burden, sorry my English, but you can use re-captcha or captcha on Drupal: http://drupal.org/project/recaptcha http://drupal.org/project/captcha I can provide access to a staging installation soon, to check things out. I'd be happy if someone else could do this for drupal or whatever other CMS you think should be in the closer choice. The static sites requirements is considered a hard requirement, no but it is fast without arguments please. To quickly get an idea how your site performs, use the apache benchmark utility, request a site 1000 times with concurrency of 5. That can be used as a measure to compare cached/static vs dynamic performance. Cheers CC: Felix Delattre -- Carlos Jenkins http://www.cjenkins.net/ http://csl-tec.softwarelibrecr.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
