Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Annabelle Wübbelsmann]

Hi Christian,

>> The string has translated in weblate five mounts ago, but on the website
>> it is still no translated. Is there a problem with it?
>
> Some problems with different expectations of the details of the file
> format between the yaml that weblate creates and the yaml that the
> website expects - but should be solved now, the strings are finally
> active on the site.
> thanks for fixing this. Now it looks like it should :)

Regards
Annabelle

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI Annabelle, *,

On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:10 PM Annabelle Wübbelsmann  wrote:
> The string has translated in weblate five mounts ago, but on the website
> it is still no translated. Is there a problem with it?

Some problems with different expectations of the details of the file
format between the yaml that weblate creates and the yaml that the
website expects - but should be solved now, the strings are finally
active on the site.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Annabelle Wübbelsmann]

Hi Christian>>
>> are there some news to this topic?
>
> Ups, forgot about that one since it wasn't a simple change but needed
> some minor reshuffling first to fit into a translatable string, but it
> is now available in weblate.
>
The string has translated in weblate five mounts ago, but on the website
it is still no translated. Is there a problem with it?

Regards
Annabelle

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Annabelle, *,

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:01 AM Annabelle Wübbelsmann  wrote:
>
> are there some news to this topic?

Ups, forgot about that one since it wasn't a simple change but needed
some minor reshuffling first to fit into a translatable string, but it
is now available in weblate.

ciao
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Annabelle Wübbelsmann]

Hi Website Team,

are there some news to this topic?

Regards
Annabelle Wübbelsmann

Member of the German translation team
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos:
>>
>> I have received information from a user that a string on the website is
>> not translatable.
>>
>
> Hi Annabelle! I can confirm that the string is nowhere to be found on
> Weblate.
>
> In case someone from the Website team can add it manually, here are some
> translations:
>
> EN: "Key management software for the new OpenPGP feature (external site)"
> ES: Programa de gestión de claves para la funcionalidad OpenPGP (sitio
> externo)
>
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

Thank you Michael, for digging up the old threads.

Just the other day, on the Spanish Telegram channel, somebody was wondering
why the “Start Certificate Manager” button didn’t seem to do anything, and
then Juan Carlos from the Spanish team kindly explained to them that they
needed to install external key management software. If we had that message
translated, I guess much confusion would have been solved.

I hope that this is addressed in the new website codebase at least.

Adolfo

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

>
> I have received information from a user that a string on the website is
> not translatable.
>

Hi Annabelle! I can confirm that the string is nowhere to be found on
Weblate.

In case someone from the Website team can add it manually, here are some
translations:

EN: "Key management software for the new OpenPGP feature (external site)"
ES: Programa de gestión de claves para la funcionalidad OpenPGP (sitio
externo)

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Annabelle Wübbelsmann]

Hello Adolfo,

good to hear that you also couldn't find the string in Weblate. So I
don't need glasses :)
Wouldn't it be better if the string will be added to Weblate?

Regards
Annabelle Wübbelsmann

Member of the German translation team
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos:
>>
>> I have received information from a user that a string on the website is
>> not translatable.
>>
>
> Hi Annabelle! I can confirm that the string is nowhere to be found on
> Weblate.
>
> In case someone from the Website team can add it manually, here are some
> translations:
>
> EN: "Key management software for the new OpenPGP feature (external site)"
> ES: Programa de gestión de claves para la funcionalidad OpenPGP (sitio
> externo)
>
> --
> Adolfo
>

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 7.3: Updates for "New features" page on website, for release on 02 Feb

[ayhanyalcinsoy]

> Hi everyone,

   Hi Mike, 
   It is ready for Turkish.

> Tomorrow, for the release of LibreOffice 7.3, I'll update
> https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/new-features/ with the text below.
> I'm sharing here too, for other language projects to update their sites
> (or with features they feel should be highlighted):
> 
> Accurate document conversion
> 
> LibreOffice 7.3 is our latest major release, with a strong focus on
> document compatibility. But it has many new features too – check out
> this video for an overview, and then scroll down for more details...
> 
> Better collaboration
> 
> Sharing documents and edits with other users? LibreOffice 7.3's change
> tracking features have been enhanced, to make modifications more clear.
> You can now easily identify when whole paragraphs have been moved.
> 
> Work faster in Calc
> 
> When you're working with spreadsheets, the new Bash-like autocompletion
> feature helps you to input data in a snap.
> 
> Bullets and barcodes
> 
> Working with bulleted lists is now simpler, and you can now insert
> barcodes into your documents with just a few clicks (QR codes are also
> supported).
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Our new website is progressing - have a look!

[Yaron Shahrabani]

Hi, I've looked at the video and I want to see if I could add RTL support
for Hebrew, Arabic, Persian, etc. the only thing I need to find is a way to
determine these languages are selected so that the right CSS will be
applied.

Thank you.
Yaron Shahrabani





On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:53 PM Ilmari Lauhakangas <
ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> as some of you may know, a small but growing team has been working on a
> completely new website over the past months, and we're making good
> progress!
>
> Apart from a new and fresh design, that will finally also properly
> support mobile phones and tablets, we've spent quite some time on the
> backend system and shared various bits of information with you on this
> already.
>
> We've decided to go with the Hugo static site generator, storing the
> content in Markdown files and tracking changes in Git. There is no
> longer a need to request permission for editing the content or the site
> structure and localisation can happen in Weblate.
>
> As the website should be for you, our Community, we're eager to hear
> your feedback on the editing process of the proposed new website and
> we've decided to provide another testing facility! Master choreographer
> Guilhem whipped up an infrastructural dance routine, which makes it
> possible to preview changes to the website online. Please do give it a
> try and share your questions and feedback with us:
> - here on the mailing list
> - privately to ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org
> - on the #tdf-infra chat channel
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/IRC#Channels
>
> We'd like to encourage especially the localisers who need unique pages
> to try things out.
>
> Editing the website comes in three easy steps:
>
> 1. Edit the website in Gerrit as in the recorded demonstration:
> https://www.ilmarilauhakangas.fi/gerrit_website_demo.mkv
> 2. Wait 5 minutes
> 3. Visit https://newdesign2.libreoffice.org/changes/1234 where 1234 is
> your Gerrit change number
>
> All kinds of nonsensical changes are welcome - just write the commit
> message in a way that it is clear you are testing.
>
> Don't hesitate to reach out for any questions you may have!
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Change the Japanese website download page translation

[Shinji Enoki]

Hi Christian,

> Yes, the files are not automatically synced - weblate creates slightly
> differently formatted yaml that silverstripe's parser doesn't like, so
> there is a little cleanup required/updating is a manual process.

> It is managed by Silverstripe, but automatically filled based on what
> downloads are available, so only parts of the page are edited in the
> CMS-backend (like sidebar and other elements), the rest is assembled
> by Silverstripe and translated using the yaml files (and translation
> is done in weblate)

Thank you for the explanation.


> Done now, sorry for late reply.

Thank you for updating the page!

> To translate the entries in the sidebar area: add corresponding
> translated entries into the page content in the /admin/pages area of
> the site. If nothing is specified, it will use the English default.

I found the following on the "Download Page" edit screen on Silverstripe.
| Sidebar buttons, see https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1023

I will try it.

Best regards,
Shinji


2021年2月25日(木) 19:18 Christian Lohmaier :
>
> Hi Shinji,
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:59 PM Shinji Enoki  wrote:
> >
> > At Weblate, I think the translation of the Web into Japanese has been 
> > completed.
> > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/newdesign/ja/
> >
> > However, when I check the website, there are some untranslated
> > strings, such as the version description.
>
> Yes, the files are not automatically synced - weblate creates slightly
> differently formatted yaml that silverstripe's parser doesn't like, so
> there is a little cleanup required/updating is a manual process.
>
> > Is the description of each version managed by weblate? Or is it
> > managed in a different way?
>
> The description lines are per codeline, not updated for each individual 
> version.
>
> > I think this page doesn't seem to be managed by Silvertripe.
>
> It is managed by Silverstripe, but automatically filled based on what
> downloads are available, so only parts of the page are edited in the
> CMS-backend (like sidebar and other elements), the rest is assembled
> by Silverstripe and translated using the yaml files (and translation
> is done in weblate)
>
> > Could you fix this issue?
>
> Done now, sorry for late reply.
>
> > Or what should we do?
>
> To translate the entries in the sidebar area: add corresponding
> translated entries into the page content in the /admin/pages area of
> the site. If nothing is specified, it will use the English default.
>
> ciao
> Christain



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Change the Japanese website download page translation

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Shinji,

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:59 PM Shinji Enoki  wrote:
>
> At Weblate, I think the translation of the Web into Japanese has been 
> completed.
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/newdesign/ja/
>
> However, when I check the website, there are some untranslated
> strings, such as the version description.

Yes, the files are not automatically synced - weblate creates slightly
differently formatted yaml that silverstripe's parser doesn't like, so
there is a little cleanup required/updating is a manual process.

> Is the description of each version managed by weblate? Or is it
> managed in a different way?

The description lines are per codeline, not updated for each individual version.

> I think this page doesn't seem to be managed by Silvertripe.

It is managed by Silverstripe, but automatically filled based on what
downloads are available, so only parts of the page are edited in the
CMS-backend (like sidebar and other elements), the rest is assembled
by Silverstripe and translated using the yaml files (and translation
is done in weblate)

> Could you fix this issue?

Done now, sorry for late reply.

> Or what should we do?

To translate the entries in the sidebar area: add corresponding
translated entries into the page content in the /admin/pages area of
the site. If nothing is specified, it will use the English default.

ciao
Christain

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Change the Japanese website download page translation

[Shinji Enoki]

Hi,

We (Japanese community) want to translate the download page of the
Japanese website.
https://ja.libreoffice.org/download/download/


At Weblate, I think the translation of the Web into Japanese has been completed.
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/newdesign/ja/

However, when I check the website, there are some untranslated
strings, such as the version description.

Is the description of each version managed by weblate? Or is it
managed in a different way?
I think this page doesn't seem to be managed by Silvertripe.

Could you fix this issue?
Or what should we do?

Best regards,
Shinji


2021年2月11日(木) 16:41 Jun Nogata :

>
> Hi,
>
> When will the website download page translation change?
>
> The Japanese translation rate is 100%.
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/newdesign/ja/
>
> However, it stays the same all the time.
> https://ja.libreoffice.org/download/download/
>
>
> Regards,
> Jun
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation contributors page not updated

[Tuomas Hietala]

Hello,

The information on that page was not up to date last year either, before 
the introduction of Weblate. So it certainly wasn't being automatically 
updated back then, and it looks like it probably hasn't been updated in 
a few years.


It certainly *should* be automatically updated, or someone should make 
manually the effort to properly credit translators for their 
contributions.


BR,
Tuomas

Adolfo Jayme Barrientos kirjoitti 5.7.2020 12:04:

That page is automatically updated by the software itself whenever a
user logs on and works on something. Since we translators don’t use it
anymore, how do you expect it to still be up to date?


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation contributors page not updated

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

That page is automatically updated by the software itself whenever a
user logs on and works on something. Since we translators don’t use it
anymore, how do you expect it to still be up to date?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Keeping system requirements up-to-date

[Daniel A. Rodriguez]

just updated spanish site, :-)

El mar., 3 dic. 2019 a las 5:46, Mike Saunders
() escribió:
>
> On 02/12/2019 19:22, Luca Daghino @ Libero wrote:
> >
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > Thank you for pointing out, we'll update as soon as possible.
>
> Great, thanks Luca!
>
> > PS... german version in your second link ;)
>
> Ooof... Sorry, I would blame lack of coffee but it was already 13:40 :D
>
> Here's the English link:
>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Keeping system requirements up-to-date

[Mike Saunders]

On 02/12/2019 19:22, Luca Daghino @ Libero wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
> 
> Thank you for pointing out, we'll update as soon as possible.

Great, thanks Luca!

> PS... german version in your second link ;)

Ooof... Sorry, I would blame lack of coffee but it was already 13:40 :D

Here's the English link:

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Cheers,
Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Keeping system requirements up-to-date

[Luca Daghino @ Libero]

Il 02/12/19 13:40, Mike Saunders ha scritto:

Hello everyone,

An Italian LibreOffice user on Facebook asked me if the software works
on Windows 10. I saw that the system requirements page here doesn't
mention Windows 10 (or Windows Server 2012):

https://it.libreoffice.org/supporto/requisiti-sistema/

If maintainers of native-lang sites can check that the requirements are
up-to-date, that'd be super appreciated :-) Here's the English version
for reference:

https://de.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Cheers,
Mike


Hello Mike,

Thank you for pointing out, we'll update as soon as possible.

Bye

Luca

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Websites in various languages that need updating

[Mike Saunders]

Hi Mihkel,

On 20/10/2019 22:14, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote:
> 
> What do I need to do to update the design of the site for my language?

Thanks for offering to update the Estonian page! Looking at the
SilverStripe admin interface, I can only see pages in English, so I'm
not sure how to switch this I'm afraid. But let me poke the infra team
who should have the technical know-how...

Mike

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] download page new style

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

Hi Cor,

For the Spanish site, I asked for it on Redmine, but as Luca notes, it
will be rolled out globally with Pootle translation support in the
near future.

Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi

I opened redmine ticket

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2182

to correct this. Please follow the resolution in redmine

regards
Olivier

Em 03/03/2017 08:22, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:
> Thanks, Olivier,
> 
> there was additional request in my emails in this thread, so please also
> implement it (quoting):
> could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
> fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?
> Here is the link:
> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/
> 
> Thanks, m.
> 
> 2017-03-03 12:10 GMT+01:00 Olivier Hallot :
> 
>> Hi
>>
>> The sl/ entry for "User Guides..." help menu now redirect to the English
>> page.
>>
>> regards
>> Olivier
>>
>> Em 03/03/2017 07:46, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:
>>> Hi, after month and a half, any news of this?
>>> The links in the released Slovenian LO point to non-existing pages
>> because
>>> of this ...
>>>
>>> Lp, m.
>>>
>>> 2017-01-15 1:56 GMT+01:00 Martin Srebotnjak :
>>>
 Hi, Sophie & Olivier,

 could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
 fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?

 Here is the link:
 http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/

 I would keep the documentation link to the English documentation site
 until we get at least the GS guide localized.

 Thanks,
 m.

 2016-12-12 11:41 GMT+01:00 Sophie :

> Hi Martin,
> Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
>> Hi, Sophie,
>>
>> I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
>> release, so I would like that link to point to
>> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
>> in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.
>
> Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
> the right link.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Thanks, Olivier,

there was additional request in my emails in this thread, so please also
implement it (quoting):
could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?
Here is the link:
http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/

Thanks, m.

2017-03-03 12:10 GMT+01:00 Olivier Hallot :

> Hi
>
> The sl/ entry for "User Guides..." help menu now redirect to the English
> page.
>
> regards
> Olivier
>
> Em 03/03/2017 07:46, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:
> > Hi, after month and a half, any news of this?
> > The links in the released Slovenian LO point to non-existing pages
> because
> > of this ...
> >
> > Lp, m.
> >
> > 2017-01-15 1:56 GMT+01:00 Martin Srebotnjak :
> >
> >> Hi, Sophie & Olivier,
> >>
> >> could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
> >> fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?
> >>
> >> Here is the link:
> >> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/
> >>
> >> I would keep the documentation link to the English documentation site
> >> until we get at least the GS guide localized.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> m.
> >>
> >> 2016-12-12 11:41 GMT+01:00 Sophie :
> >>
> >>> Hi Martin,
> >>> Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
>  Hi, Sophie,
> 
>  I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
>  release, so I would like that link to point to
>  http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
>  in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
> >>> the right link.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Sophie
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> GSM: +33683901545
> >>> IRC: sophi
> >>> Release coordinator
> >>> The Document Foundation
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi

The sl/ entry for "User Guides..." help menu now redirect to the English
page.

regards
Olivier

Em 03/03/2017 07:46, Martin Srebotnjak escreveu:
> Hi, after month and a half, any news of this?
> The links in the released Slovenian LO point to non-existing pages because
> of this ...
> 
> Lp, m.
> 
> 2017-01-15 1:56 GMT+01:00 Martin Srebotnjak :
> 
>> Hi, Sophie & Olivier,
>>
>> could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
>> fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?
>>
>> Here is the link:
>> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/
>>
>> I would keep the documentation link to the English documentation site
>> until we get at least the GS guide localized.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> m.
>>
>> 2016-12-12 11:41 GMT+01:00 Sophie :
>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>> Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
 Hi, Sophie,

 I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
 release, so I would like that link to point to
 http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
 in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
>>> the right link.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Sophie
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org
>>> GSM: +33683901545
>>> IRC: sophi
>>> Release coordinator
>>> The Document Foundation
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, after month and a half, any news of this?
The links in the released Slovenian LO point to non-existing pages because
of this ...

Lp, m.

2017-01-15 1:56 GMT+01:00 Martin Srebotnjak :

> Hi, Sophie & Olivier,
>
> could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
> fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?
>
> Here is the link:
> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/
>
> I would keep the documentation link to the English documentation site
> until we get at least the GS guide localized.
>
> Thanks,
> m.
>
> 2016-12-12 11:41 GMT+01:00 Sophie :
>
>> Hi Martin,
>> Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
>> > Hi, Sophie,
>> >
>> > I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
>> > release, so I would like that link to point to
>> > http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
>> > in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
>> the right link.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
>>
>> --
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>> GSM: +33683901545
>> IRC: sophi
>> Release coordinator
>> The Document Foundation
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, Sophie & Olivier,

could the "feedback" link in the Slovenian (sl) Help menu point to the
fully localized Slovenian feedback webpage and not to the English one?

Here is the link:
http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/vas-odziv/

I would keep the documentation link to the English documentation site until
we get at least the GS guide localized.

Thanks,
m.

2016-12-12 11:41 GMT+01:00 Sophie :

> Hi Martin,
> Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> > Hi, Sophie,
> >
> > I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
> > release, so I would like that link to point to
> > http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
> > in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.
>
> Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
> the right link.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi.

Updated list.

Thanks


Em 12/12/2016 08:41, Sophie escreveu:
> Hi Martin,
> Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
>> Hi, Sophie,
>>
>> I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
>> release, so I would like that link to point to
>> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
>> in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.
> Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
> the right link.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Sophie]

Hi Martin,
Le 11/12/2016 à 12:45, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> Hi, Sophie,
> 
> I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
> release, so I would like that link to point to
> http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
> in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.

Thanks for your feedback, I've added Olivier in copy so he his aware of
the right link.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, Sophie,

I started localizing AskBot, but of course it will not be ready by 5.3
release, so I would like that link to point to
http://sl.libreoffice.org/po-pomoc/podpora-skupnosti/
in the Slovenian (sl) version of LO for the time being.

Thanks,
m.

2016-11-21 22:26 GMT+01:00 Muhammet Kara :

> Hi Sophie,
>
> We have completed the Turkish translation on Transifex. And we are now
> waiting for the Turkish askbot for LibreOffice to be opened. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Muhammet
>
> On 11/14/2016 02:10 PM, Sophie wrote:
>
>> Hi Muhammet,
>> Le 14/11/2016 à 08:27, Muhammet Kara a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Sophie,
>>>
>>> I have started working on the Turkish translation of askbot on
>>> transifex, and it is 65% complete now.
>>>
>>> Me and the other volunteers will continue working on establishing and
>>> maintaining the Turkish instance of askbot (I'll write to the website
>>> list to request the Turkish instance shortly), but maybe setting the
>>> help url as http://forum.libreoffice.org.tr/ (current Turkish forum) is
>>> a good idea until our askbot is ready for the prime-time? There is
>>> already a lot of info on the Turkish forum, so it seems more helpful for
>>> the users for the time being.
>>>
>> Ok, I'll add it on the redmine issue and let me know when your
>> translation and ask instance are up so we update the link. Thanks for
>> your work :-)
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
>>
>>
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link

[Muhammet Kara]

Hi Sophie,

We have completed the Turkish translation on Transifex. And we are now 
waiting for the Turkish askbot for LibreOffice to be opened. :)


Cheers,
Muhammet

On 11/14/2016 02:10 PM, Sophie wrote:

Hi Muhammet,
Le 14/11/2016 à 08:27, Muhammet Kara a écrit :

Hi Sophie,

I have started working on the Turkish translation of askbot on
transifex, and it is 65% complete now.

Me and the other volunteers will continue working on establishing and
maintaining the Turkish instance of askbot (I'll write to the website
list to request the Turkish instance shortly), but maybe setting the
help url as http://forum.libreoffice.org.tr/ (current Turkish forum) is
a good idea until our askbot is ready for the prime-time? There is
already a lot of info on the Turkish forum, so it seems more helpful for
the users for the time being.

Ok, I'll add it on the redmine issue and let me know when your
translation and ask instance are up so we update the link. Thanks for
your work :-)
Cheers
Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Leif Lodahl]

I think this problem is escalating.

My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the
translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen.

Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say
that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular
translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this
situation.

I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be
prioritized.


Cheers,
Leif

2015-01-02 9:46 GMT+01:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 Hi,
 Le 01/01/2015 21:36, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  Cor Nouws wrote on 2015-01-01 at 21:30:
  I added 'details'
  But can't reopen.
 
  Now displayinghttps://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/
  does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes.
 
  same here. :-( Pootle is out of TDF infra, hosted on a separate machine,
  and Cloph (who might know what to do) is on vacation.
 
  If it doesn't automagically heal itself by tomorrow, can you maybe poke
  Andras and Sophie? IMHO at least Andras also knows some details about
  the Pootle setup, and Sophie might know who else could help out...

 I've added Rimas in copy of this mail, Pootle seems to be down
 currently. Rimas is it possible for you to help here?
 Cheers
 Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Cor Nouws]

Leif Lodahl wrote on 06-01-15 10:43:
 I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be
 prioritized.

It has been 'managed' already. Now only needs to be fixed..

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

I've missed the topic for second time. Sorry for that.

I want to ask that if something said about the new accelerator sign '_'
when placed inside the word, seperates the word and prevents having a
search match.

Best regards,
Zeki

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Sophie]

Hi Leif, all,
Le 06/01/2015 10:43, Leif Lodahl a écrit :
 I think this problem is escalating.
 
 My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the
 translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen.
 
 Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say
 that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular
 translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this
 situation.

Maybe a temporary solution for them is to use Virtaal, until we try to
see where we can enhance things here. I'm not sure of what can be
exactly done, but this is something I would like to discuss during
Fosdem (in the light of Cloph answer here
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-l10n-Pootle-server-speed-tt4128467.html)
 
 I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be
 prioritized.

I would like first to give a try to the new workflow and see how things
improve here. I've also contacted Dwayne (Pootle developer) multiple
times but his availability is very low, I'll write him again today.
LibreOffice is a very large project and we have few comparison elements
with other projects. However, if we need to test other software in
replacement, we will do it. I still have Weblate to test
(https://weblate.org/en/features/) in mind, but well before replacing a
full installation, I think trying to enhance it is better, again due to
the large project we have.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Leif Lodahl wrote on 2015-01-06 at 10:43:

I think this problem is escalating.

My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the
translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen.

Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say
that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular
translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this
situation.

I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be
prioritized.


sorry to hear about those issues. :-( The whole Pootle issue is a long 
story, and things so far did not work out as expected, despite various 
approaches by Sophie and me. From what I remember, this is nothing 
fixable from the infra side, but only in the program's code, which we 
tried to get, but...


Sophie, Cloph, can we maybe have a call on this on Thursday or Friday so 
you can update me what the story is and we can evaluate our options here?


Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Sophie]

Hi Flo, all,
Le 06/01/2015 12:07, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Leif Lodahl wrote on 2015-01-06 at 10:43:
 I think this problem is escalating.

 My hope was that the holiday period could give us time to finish the
 translation of 4.4 but it didn't happen.

 Translating with Pootle is PITA. And for the Danish translation I can say
 that we have more or less given up on it. At least two of our regular
 translators has left the project (temporarily I hope) because of this
 situation.

 I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be
 prioritized.
 
 sorry to hear about those issues. :-( The whole Pootle issue is a long
 story, and things so far did not work out as expected, despite various
 approaches by Sophie and me. From what I remember, this is nothing
 fixable from the infra side, but only in the program's code, which we
 tried to get, but...
 
 Sophie, Cloph, can we maybe have a call on this on Thursday or Friday so
 you can update me what the story is and we can evaluate our options here?

Both days are ok for me. I've sent a mail to Dwayne with you in copy so
you'll know where we are here.
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Sophie wrote on 2015-01-06 at 15:56:

Both days are ok for me. I've sent a mail to Dwayne with you in copy so
you'll know where we are here.


thanks a lot!

I will follow-up with you and Cloph offlist first, and then get back to 
this list.


Sorry again for the inconveniences,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Sophie]

Hi,
Le 01/01/2015 21:36, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Cor Nouws wrote on 2015-01-01 at 21:30:
 I added 'details'
 But can't reopen.

 Now displayinghttps://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/
 does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes.
 
 same here. :-( Pootle is out of TDF infra, hosted on a separate machine,
 and Cloph (who might know what to do) is on vacation.
 
 If it doesn't automagically heal itself by tomorrow, can you maybe poke
 Andras and Sophie? IMHO at least Andras also knows some details about
 the Pootle setup, and Sophie might know who else could help out...

I've added Rimas in copy of this mail, Pootle seems to be down
currently. Rimas is it possible for you to help here?
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Cor Nouws wrote on 2015-01-01 at 21:30:

I added 'details'
But can't reopen.

Now displayinghttps://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/
does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes.


same here. :-( Pootle is out of TDF infra, hosted on a separate machine, 
and Cloph (who might know what to do) is on vacation.


If it doesn't automagically heal itself by tomorrow, can you maybe poke 
Andras and Sophie? IMHO at least Andras also knows some details about 
the Pootle setup, and Sophie might know who else could help out...


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote on 30-12-14 09:47:
 can you add details to Redmine ticket #707 and re-open it?

I added 'details'
But can't reopen.

Now displaying https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/
does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes.


Ciao,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Cor,

Cor Nouws wrote on 2014-12-28 at 23:37:


Apparently dumb user error since I picked up 4.2 from the browsers
memory.. Apols!


Not that working in 4.4. is a pleasure :(


can you add details to Redmine ticket #707 and re-open it?
Maybe Sophie can then have a look and if it's really an issue, raise it 
with the Pootle folks.


Thanks,
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Cor Nouws]

Cor Nouws wrote on 28-12-14 20:40:

 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/nl/libo42_ui/ fails.

Apparently dumb user error since I picked up 4.2 from the browsers
memory.. Apols!
Cor


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

[Cor Nouws]

Cor Nouws wrote on 28-12-14 21:48:

 Apparently dumb user error since I picked up 4.2 from the browsers
 memory.. Apols!

Not that working in 4.4. is a pleasure :(


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [Wiki] Delete all Litmus pages?

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2014-08-07 11:45 GMT-05:00 Dennis Roczek dennisroc...@gmail.com:
 As Litmus is dead (even the gitorious link) and we don't use it and won't
 use it in future, can we suavely delete these Litmus pages and remove the
 references within the wiki? Is that OK if I do that?

Please. Don’t be shy of using the Delete link to make all of that cruft vanish.

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Migrating to the new website design

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Martin, *,

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:

 I am finishing up the new Slovenian site, but before the move from the old
 one I have some questions:
 - will the issue with East European (Latin Slavic) characters in the
 designer font be solved, and when (č represented in another font)?

I could make it include the font that contains the characters, but
then some user might run into the problem of some characters not
showing up.

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/412

so far only reports that it occurs for some users, but no way to
actually reproduce/what is the exact circumstances that must be met to
run into the problem.

 - how do I localize the 4 buttons on the Fresh/Stable pages, they are not
 present to localize, so they remain in English (System Requirements, Join
 the project!, Do more with LibreOffice, Good looking documents)?

Seems I forgot to update the templates in pootle - will do that later today.

 - can the Privacy Policy and Imprint be left in English/German?

Yes, and should be left that way. binding is the German one, English
is just FYI.

 Should we hide it from the localize About us menu?

What you display/hide is up to you, but when it is not listed on the
english site, it's an indication that's not finished/work in progress
or just an oversight...

 - I cannot seem to be able to add the Slovenian twitter account to tweets
 section instead of the English one, maybe this is related to my account's
 rights? I asked Christian, but got no response until now.

Oh, I always give the same response re twitter: to get info about
inclusion of twitter/using their api/widgets, you need to be a
twitter-user.
So to include other twitter or for that matter other social media
platfoms (esp. for Chinese, where it was a topic last time), I'd like
to have the technical docu.

ciao
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Migrating to the new website design

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, all,

I am finishing up the new Slovenian site, but before the move from the old
one I have some questions:
- will the issue with East European (Latin Slavic) characters in the
designer font be solved, and when (č represented in another font)?
- how do I localize the 4 buttons on the Fresh/Stable pages, they are not
present to localize, so they remain in English (System Requirements, Join
the project!, Do more with LibreOffice, Good looking documents)?
- can the Privacy Policy and Imprint be left in English/German? There are
probably no legal entities in other countries and localizers should not
take responsibility for content from TDF, that they only localize?
- the Certification page on the published English website does not appear
in the About us menu; however does in the localized website i Silverstripe.
Should we hide it from the localize About us menu?
- I cannot seem to be able to add the Slovenian twitter account to tweets
section instead of the English one, maybe this is related to my account's
rights? I asked Christian, but got no response until now.
- I want to keep the old Why LO in ... pages content so I added them to
the Discover menu at the end as a single page, hopefully noone has problem
with that? I think the content is important for people who need arguments
for their bosses for introducing LO to their business, school ...

Lp, m.


2014-07-07 15:37 GMT+02:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 We would like to encourage all the NL teams to migrate to the new
 website design (which is not so new now ;).

 Note that you don't need to have all the pages available like on the
 English version, if you just want to have the download page, unpublish
 what has been copied but this page and you're done.

 If you need guidance, there is a documentation available here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
 and don't hesitate to ask if you have questions :)

 Cheers
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Migrating to the new website design

[Pedro Albuquerque]

Em 07-07-2014 15:28, Sérgio Marques escreveu:



 2014-07-07 15:24 GMT+01:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 mailto:gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

 Hi Sérgio,
 Le 07/07/2014 16:20, Sérgio Marques a écrit :
  2014-07-07 14:37 GMT+01:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com
 mailto:gautier.sop...@gmail.com:
 
  Hi all,
 
  We would like to encourage all the NL teams to migrate to the new
  website design (which is not so new now ;).
 
 
  Hi Sophie,
 
  And how should we do that? For instance, Portuguese website is
 mostly done.
  Some strange issues already posted in website list waiting for
 solution.
  But It´s ready to go online.

 What are the issues, could you point me to the threads? I'll see with
 Cloph or Alex what we can do.

Hi Sophie,
Sorry for the delay. This is a radder long list but most of it has to do
with the right menus (navbar navbar-inverse navbar-fixed-top I think).
So here it is:

  * download page, LO stable, right menu, release notes have a duplicate
link (useful resources and download);
  * download page, LO stable, the three big green buttons are in
English. I can't find a way to translate them and/or correct the links;
  * download page, LO fresh, the three big green buttons are in English.
I can't find a way to translate them and/or correct the links;
  * get help page,installation instructions, Windows, Linux and MacOS,
right menu, Nabble forums is 'hidden'? behind 'Installation
instructions';
  * get help page, system requirements, right menu seems to be disabled,
all leeds to a page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * get help page, system requirements, links to a bookmark skips title
and first line;
  * get help page, accessibility, links to a bookmark skips title and
first lines;
  * get help page, accessibility, right menu off position and disabled,
all leeds to a page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * get help page, accessibility, Documentation bookmark has two links.
The one pointing to the site's documentation page doesn't work leeds
to a page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * get help page, bugs submission, The green bar overlaps right menu
but Sérgio tested it and didn't happen with him, probably my mistake;
  * get help page, mail lists, link near the bottom to Nabble forums
doesn't work, although well defined;
  * get help page, mail lists, link near the bottom to detailed
instructions to cancel subscription doesn't work, although well defined;
  * community page, get involved, right menu disabled, all leeds to a
page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * community page, get involved,bottom link to source code not working
although well defined;
  * about us page, Imprint, right menu seems to be disabled, all leeds
to a page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * about us page, Imprint, links to a bookmark skips title and first lines;
  * about us page, Credits, right menu seems to be disabled, all leeds
to a page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * about us page, Privacy policy, right menu seems to be disabled, all
leeds to a page not found in English, not Portuguese as it should;
  * about us page, Privacy policy, links to a bookmark skips title and
first lines;
  * about us page, 'Who are we?' link English website is at top right
menu, Portuguese website is at bottom right menu;
  * about us page, 'Who are we?', last link to Legal information points
to a log in page. I think it should point to Imprint
http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/imprint/;

And that's all.
Regards,
Pedro.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] NL sites localization

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi,

I am asking this again, as I do not get an affirmative answer (I
posted a bug in bugzilla a year ago, but no response whatsoever).

Is adding feeds/blogs from l10n projects instead of TDF/LO-English
ones supported? I do not want to have a fully localized website with
English tweets and blog excerpts, if I have Slovenian ones published
on our twitter/blog accountss ...

Another thing - the font used for titles on the new site is not fully
UTF-8 compliant, as can be seen in the display of letter č (used in
latin Slavic languages). Please change the font (or fix it).

Then we can talk business :)

Thanks, m.

2014-05-12 10:02 GMT+02:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:
 Hi Pawel,
 Le 11/05/2014 14:55, Pawel K. a écrit :
 Hi everyone,

 How can I preview unpublished page in new SS interface? Is it even
 possible to see untranslated NL page now? I'd like to see how text is
 aligned and shown in this new template.

 You'll find all the information here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT#New_website_design_localization

 By the way, should we use https://XX.libreoffice.org/admin (for
 example) or https://WWW.libreoffice.org/admin? (I'm using now www
 version).

 it's https://www.libreoffice.org/admin, then select your language in the
 list.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] NL sites localization

[Sophie]

Hi Pawel,
Le 11/05/2014 14:55, Pawel K. a écrit :
 Hi everyone,
 
 How can I preview unpublished page in new SS interface? Is it even
 possible to see untranslated NL page now? I'd like to see how text is
 aligned and shown in this new template.

You'll find all the information here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT#New_website_design_localization
 
 By the way, should we use https://XX.libreoffice.org/admin (for
 example) or https://WWW.libreoffice.org/admin? (I'm using now www
 version).

it's https://www.libreoffice.org/admin, then select your language in the
list.

Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] NL sites localization

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Hi Martin,

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net wrote:

 I am asking this again, as I do not get an affirmative answer (I
 posted a bug in bugzilla a year ago, but no response whatsoever).

 Is adding feeds/blogs from l10n projects instead of TDF/LO-English
 ones supported?

What about if you just had a look instead of asking?

Yes, you can add your own rss feeds. There's a rss-feed-list control
where you can add registered feeds, and other controls where you pick
one of those feeds to be displayed on the homepage.

 Another thing - the font used for titles on the new site is not fully
 UTF-8 compliant, as can be seen in the display of letter č (used in
 latin Slavic languages). Please change the font (or fix it).

This is design topic, but well.
Need to look wether the font is available with extended coverage.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] NL sites localization

[Pawel K.]

Hi everyone,

How can I preview unpublished page in new SS interface? Is it even
possible to see untranslated NL page now? I'd like to see how text is
aligned and shown in this new template.

By the way, should we use https://XX.libreoffice.org/admin (for
example) or https://WWW.libreoffice.org/admin? (I'm using now www
version).

Best regards,
Pawel

2014-04-10 22:19 GMT+02:00, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net:
 Can a nl team replace the TDF twitter and blog snippet with its own
 twitter and blog account (to really make it nl)? The old site did not
 allow that.

 Lp, m.

 2014-04-08 9:30 GMT+02:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 So thanks to the big great work of Christian, NL sites are now almost
 ready to be localized. I'll write a how-to today on the wiki, but here
 are some info:

 - the changing strings are ready to be translated and the sites
 populated with a copy of the main one
 - the template strings are not yet in Pootle, Christian will work on the
 extraction/import this week and will update Pootle. We will keep you
 update on this
 - you can begin to work on your language site however
 - you login with the same login you used by the past to
 https://www.libreoffice.org/admin and from here switch to your subsite.
 - editors have also publishers rights

 I'll work today on the how-to and will add screenshots to make it
 easier. If you feel you don't need it, just go on :) the site will not
 be visible for the moment, so don't be too afraid, Christian will switch
 it on when finalized.

 Cheers
 Sophie

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] NL sites localization

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Can a nl team replace the TDF twitter and blog snippet with its own
twitter and blog account (to really make it nl)? The old site did not
allow that.

Lp, m.

2014-04-08 9:30 GMT+02:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 So thanks to the big great work of Christian, NL sites are now almost
 ready to be localized. I'll write a how-to today on the wiki, but here
 are some info:

 - the changing strings are ready to be translated and the sites
 populated with a copy of the main one
 - the template strings are not yet in Pootle, Christian will work on the
 extraction/import this week and will update Pootle. We will keep you
 update on this
 - you can begin to work on your language site however
 - you login with the same login you used by the past to
 https://www.libreoffice.org/admin and from here switch to your subsite.
 - editors have also publishers rights

 I'll work today on the how-to and will add screenshots to make it
 easier. If you feel you don't need it, just go on :) the site will not
 be visible for the moment, so don't be too afraid, Christian will switch
 it on when finalized.

 Cheers
 Sophie

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: NL sites localization

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Adolfo, *,

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
f...@libreoffice.org wrote:

 I've just tried to translate the Download page, but I clicked
 Publish and my changes were not saved.

just to be sure: It wasn't rejected because of the bad numeric field check?

 Also, it seems I made the
 whole es.libreoffice.org site private after publishing. What did I do
 wrong?

es.libreoffice.org should be totally unaffected. The DNS entry for
es.libreoffice.org still points to the old page, So I guess you
clicked the link in the backend (where you set the URLSegment, and by
default that opens the link in draft mode ?Stage=stage URL parameter.
And this is restricted to people being able to login/have the necesary
privileges.

And as you're not logged in to silverstripe  on es.libreoffice.org,
but the instance on www.libreoffice.org, you're denied access.

You can only watch/browse the changes in the preview that is within
the CMS (i.e. the one you can toggle on/off with the button in the
bottom right-hand corner. The button left to it cycles between screen
sizes/width that should be used for the preview - either as wide as
the actual browser window, desktop-size, tablet size or
smartphone size.

But maybe I misunderstood.

Download pages are a bad example to check editing, as that is one of
the pages where most of the content is autocreated/not taken from the
field you can input into the CMS. (This is one of the stuff where I'll
extract translations)

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Donate/DL page: Please change DonatePage.DLOptional to read find the additional buttons on the right

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi,
shouldn't this string be changed in Pootle as well?

Here is Slovenian version of the string update:
Možne prenose najdete na desni strani.

Lp, m.


2013/11/30 Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com

 Hi *,

 [please send translations only to me, general comments only to the
 website@global.libreoffice.org list - l10n list is just FYI]

 as you might have noticed or not, but for a while already the Buttons
 that are added to the donate page (to which one is redirected to when
 a download is started) are placed to the right of the explanatory text
 for english (and since now also for german).

 Having the text click the link in case the DL doesn't start
 automatically, find optional downloads on the right first (esp. the
 first part) makes it more clear that donation is optional / that the
 download will start/is possible without having to donate anything.

 So please change the translation of
  'DonatePage.DLOptional'
 to read the equivalent of
  'You can find the optional downloads on the right.'
 (instead of .. on the left)

 Feel free to replace the language-code and the translation in the
 following line and send it directly to me.

 $lang['en_US']['DonatePage']['DLOptional']  = 'You can find the
 optional downloads on the right.';

 I'll individually switch the languages over to the new order as
 translations come in, until most of the translations did arrive (then
 I'll switch unconditionally)

 Thanks a lot,

 ciao
 Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New DL-Page - request for updated Translations

[Florian Effenberger]

Hello,

Sérgio Marques wrote on 2013-07-18 00:41:

I´ve found out this string:

If you're looking for old versions, please visit our a href=
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old;
downloadarchive/a.

Don´t you think we need some space in downloadarchive ?


yes, indeed - the correct English text should be download archive.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New DL-Page - request for updated Translations

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Tom Davies wrote on 2013-07-18 12:41:

but the spaces get replaced by %20 so it's really
http://download%20archive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old


no, the URL is without the space - but the text it links to should be 
with. In HTML style:


a href=http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org;download archive/a

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New DL-Page - request for updated Translations

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
but the spaces get replaced by %20 so it's really 
http://download%20archive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old

Spaces get confusing in a url.  When you give people links in printed materials 
the blue underling obscures underscores so it's never clear whether a space is 
an underscore or really a space.  Then sometimes spaces get replaced by %20.  
We have seen cases where the % then gets replaced by a %25.  All making the url 
harder to read and remember.  


I tend to find CamelCase becomes quite readable so 

http://DownloadArchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old
is more practical and more readable.  


Regards from 

Tom :)  




 From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
To: Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com 
Cc: Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt; LibreOffice L10N 
l...@global.libreoffice.org; Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.com; 
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Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013, 8:41
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New DL-Page - 
request for updated Translations
 

Hello,

Sérgio Marques wrote on 2013-07-18 00:41:
 I´ve found out this string:

 If you're looking for old versions, please visit our a href=
 http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old;;
 downloadarchive/a.

 Don´t you think we need some space in downloadarchive ?

yes, indeed - the correct English text should be download archive.

Florian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New DL-Page - request for updated Translations

[Sérgio Marques]

Hi

I´ve found out this string:

If you're looking for old versions, please visit our a href=
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old;
downloadarchive/a.

Don´t you think we need some space in downloadarchive ?

And I´ve also find that Belarussian is duplicated.

Regards

2013/7/17 Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt

 Hello, L10n,

 to satisfy the request quoted below, I've just updated the website
 project on Pootle to contain new strings. The update brings 71 new
 words. Please update your translations by the end of this week, so that
 I can make a pull request early next week.

 Regards!
 Rimas


 2013.07.17 13:00, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
  Hi *,
 
  as discussed previously on the website mailing list, the
  Button-Download page will get a functionality facelift, and will be
  integrated better with the donate page.
 
  See
  http://www.mail-archive.com/website@global.libreoffice.org/msg11340.html
  and follow-ups for a description of the changes.
 
  Some strings were changed/added, so if you could please provide
  updated translations..
 
  I received a couple via mail already. But far from the complete list :-)
 
  See
 
 https://github.com/tdf/cms-code/commit/6efa4d4492a5faf5fe53e1500f6900777c616aeb#diff-3
 
  for the changed/added strings.
  and http://staging.libreoffice.org/download/ for context of the strings.
 
  ciao
  Christian


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Michael Meeks]

Hi Zeki,

On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 02:26 +0200, Zeki Bildirici wrote:
 Previously i said that we should change people's habits to get help,
 and all stuff we had discussed are hypothetical base which we stand
 on.
...
 User surveys are best for in this conditions to get to know the users
 behavior. 

IMHO there is one user-survey which the user fills in for us when they
are unable to work out what to do - and that is the 'search' entry in
the wiki-help. And of course the help pages that they look at.

I would -love- to have that data made available: a simple list of
keywords and their frequency entered into that search box sorted by
relevance would provide a very cheap  easy method for working out what
is going on ;-)

Is that something the website / infrastructure guys could provide for
us ? :-)

Thanks !

Michael.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2013-02-19 09:55:


I would -love- to have that data made available: a simple list of
keywords and their frequency entered into that search box sorted by
relevance would provide a very cheap  easy method for working out what
is going on ;-)

Is that something the website / infrastructure guys could provide for
us ? :-)


should you look at me, I would prefer if I could finish the migration of 
kermit (web server) and then bilbo (mail and download server), because 
both are rather critical and long overdue. Kermit is nearly done, but 
bilbo is at the end of its lifecycle, too, which we see in high load 
with every mirror push. After that, I have cycles free again, but until 
then, I'd like to focus on this work, if possible. :)


Florian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Donald, *,

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote:

 Thank you and Adolfo for your replies. My main point was simply the huge 
 amount of work and that small teams are trying to do. (EO team in my case).

OK, I misunderstood it somewhat as all those stuff should be found on
one website.

 On 18/02/2013, at 1:15 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 [...]
 But doing screenshots of dialogs is getting easier and easier thanks
 to the gladification of the UI.
 What is gladification?

Formerly, dialogs in OpenOffice.org (and thus in LibreOffice) are
using a fixed layout, i.e. they wouldn't resize, they wouldn't adapt
to the actual length of translated strings, etc.

So Caolan made it possible to use glade (a GTK-interface builder) to
design the dialog and use those ui files dynamically. So to take
screenshots, you can just open the dialog definition in glade instead
of finding it in LibreOffice.
http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2013/01/24/converting-libreoffice-dialogs-to-ui-format-100-conversions-milestone/
so far 100 dialogs are converted :-)

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Donald Rogers]

Hi, Tom

Thank you for your extensive explanation. Your comments on the Getting Started 
Guide are very helpful. Our team has never completed the help localization, 
even in earlier years (OOO) when we had a much bigger team. I doubt that we 
will ever catch up. 437219 words are a lot of words!

I have had another look at the Documentation page of the Wiki and the 
ODFAuthors page. It is not clear to me whether these relate only to the English 
documentation, or whether they include the localization of those documents. 
Localization seems to be not covered. 

You know those items in the help that look like this?
bookmark_valueformatting styles; styles and templates/bookmark_value  
bookmark_valuestyles; styles and templates/bookmark_value  
bookmark_valueorganizing; templates (guide)/bookmark_value  
bookmark_valuetemplates; organizing (guide)/bookmark_value
I guess that they are used to construct the help index. Is there any 
documentation on this? We seem to have to guess how the users might enter index 
terms. If, instead, we could have a full word search, like Google does, we 
would not need these bookmark_value elements, and that would save us a heap of 
time!

Regards
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Donald Rogers]

Hi Christian

Thank you and Adolfo for your replies. My main point was simply the huge amount 
of work and that small teams are trying to do. (EO team in my case). Obviously 
we have to prioritize our tasks. I am trying to get a better feel for what is 
most important. We have the UI done, but the help is at about 40% done. I have 
stopped working on it because I found that some of the menus have changed in LO 
4.0 and I personally don't want to translate stuff now and have to do it again 
when the help has been updated for v 4.0.

On 18/02/2013, at 1:15 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

 Hi Donald,
 
 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Donald Rogers donr2...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 It seems to me that there is a lot of duplication of effort and 
 fragmentation of the help. We have at least the following:
 
 LO Help from the Help menu
 help.libreoffice.org
 
 Those are identical. That's the whole point of help.libreoffice.org
That's good. (I mostly use the menu help)
 
 wiki.documentfoundation.org
 
 this is more developer / active contributer oriented and less for
 endusers, although stuff is published there. But there's another
 discussion (or actually in this thread, I lost track) about not
 abusing wiki to publish large files, etc.
 
 the guides
 FAQ
 
 How can these be extra points when these are hosted on the mentioned sites?
They all add to the work that could be done.
 
 ask.libreoffice.org
 
 A user-helps-user platform, no static documentation, but
 answeres/solutions for specific problems. You cannot cover every
 cornercase in regular documentation.
 
 accessibility info
 features
 
 See above, not really belong here as separate points, as they are
 found on sites. Otherwise you could just make separate bulletpoints
 for whetever you like.
 But the new-features page surely is also a marketing tool.
 
 installation instructions
 
 Nobody reads those anyway :-) But what is wrong with having those?
I am not saying there is anything wrong with having them. They have to be 
accessible before installing LO, so obviously aren't part of the menu help.
 
 mailing lists
 
 similar to ask.libreoffice.org, but most mailinglists are for
 coordination of active contributors. And while ask.libreoffice.org is
 fine for easy problems, more complex ones are better off on the maiing
 list.
 
 Nabble
 
 That's just an interface to the mailinglists. Not everybody likes
 using their mailclient. And you forgot gmane/newsgroup interface, that
 also is an additional way to access/participate in the mailing lists.
 
 IRC
 
 (near) real-time discussion - so again a different scope, useful for
 different stuff than the other ways to get help.
 
 You did happily mix passive sources of information with interactive stuff...
Each has a separate focus, as I see it.
 
 The guides are very good but to localize them requires not just translation 
 and adaption, but also all the screen shots and other pictures need to be 
 redone for each language. This would be a huge task. There are no guides yet 
 for version 4.0.
I just checked. EN has guides for 3.4, 3.5, 3.6 or 4.0, and ID has the full set 
of about 80 documents for LO 3.3, 3.4 or 3.5. FR has 36 (by my count) for LO 
3.5 or 3.6. All other languages apparently have none. (I looked on 
wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/fr and equivalent pages.)
 
 The principles of usage are the same, so no big deal really... And
 whether you do the screen shots or not is also a matter of taste...
 But doing screenshots of dialogs is getting easier and easier thanks
 to the gladification of the UI.
What is gladification?
 
 If we are to continue to have both the Help menu help and 
 help.libreoffice.org help, can someone write some code to generate the 
 help.libreoffice.org help from the same .po files that are used for the Help 
 menu help?
 
 That was already answered help.libreoffice.org is what is in the help-module.
 
 What sort of help is meant to be in the wiki?
 
 See above. I see it mainly as a source for information for active
 contributors/developers, less so for the enduser.
 
 Is there any possible synergy between the FAQ and ask.libreoffice.org? Are 
 they to be localized too?
 
 well, apart from people monitoring what kind of questions get asked
 the most on ask.libreoffice.org, there is no synergy. Questions are
 too widespread/too special in most cases.
 
 LO apparently doesn't have the people power to keep even the English helps 
 up to date, let alone all the other languages. Some of the localization 
 teams are very small and can't keep up with even one of the help systems.
 
 
 Please explain / give an example what you are talking about here. I
 hate statements like that.
LO is about to publish version 4.0.1 but we have not yet finished the help for 
4.0.0.
 
 The Wiki is easier to work with than the CMS.
 
 What CMS please. There are tons of them.
I refered to the Silverstripe CMS that we use in xx.libreoffice.org. This is 
not an important point, and I am 

[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi,

the only survey that would answer how good or bad current help content
and current organization of help topics as well as need for help by
the users would be to add a survey system into the LO UI, that would
report back to a server - where/when do users press F1, what topics
they look for etc. Upon installation of LO user would be asked if she
allows LO to report back anonymously about the use of help system.

Hopefully that could be done in a simple way, I just hope that help
content calls are small parts of data that could be easily tracked
back to actual situations.

Such a query should run for a few months and then the data should be
mined through to get meaningful results.

Then one can start talking about other kinds of help etc.

Lp, m.

2013/2/16 Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com:
 Hi,

 After reading the replies, and remembering the previous arguments, i
 want to point the important distinction between which is better
 approach and which way we should improve approach.

 Previously i said that we should change people's habits to get help,
 and all stuff we had discussed are hypothetical base which we stand
 on. But i am wondering that do we know people's choices, habits and
 their experiences on reaching help info or their thoughts?

 User surveys are best for in this conditions to get to know the users
 behavior. I can give my example about a user survey about the Pardus
 GNU/Linux which i've prepared and had very good results and feedback
 from users. It was about the problems on getting help, inclusion on
 contribution and their discouragements and plus and minus points.

 Maybe we should issue a survey about the general help picture of
 LibreOffice. English is not my native language thus it may have
 considered a weird language. I've used kwiksurveys before, that was
 very simple and has good options, if we have a better platform then it
 will be better.

 The basic questions can be as follows:

 

 - Have you ever heard the following help channels of LibreOffice

 --- ask.libreoffice.org portal
 --- LibreOffice forums
 --- LibreOffice user e-mail lists
 --- #LibreOffice IRC channel
 --- LibreOffice bundled/online help on help.libreoffice.org
 --- LibreOffice user guides

 - What will you do if you need help on LibreOffice
 --- I search the info for the solution on internet
 --- Ask to my friends who knows LibreOffice better
 --- Ask for help on genereal (non-LibreOffice) forums
 --- Ask for help on LibreOffice forums
 --- Ask for help on LibreOffice user e-mail lists
 --- Search on LibreOffice bundled help
 --- Search on LibreOffice Users gide

 - If you have used ask.libreoffice.org, could you please rate your
 satisfaction (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)
 .
 (same question for other channels)

 - Have you ever used LibreOffice bundled help, to learn new stuff and
 improve your skills to use LibreOffice components?

 - Have you ever used LibreOffice Guides, to learn new stuff and
 improve your skills to use LibreOffice components?

 - What do you feel during your search about getting help on LibreOffice
 --- I have no idea how to get help for my problem
 --- I am generally hopeless to find help, but i keep on trying
 --- I rarely find help
 --- I am very disappointed about all my this tries to get help
 --- I can usually find help
 --- I am a self learner and i love to find my own solutions, thus i am 
 confident
 --- I always find help from real life friends
 --- I can find help from people on various internet platforms

 - What do you think about bundled help (help.libreoffice.org)
 -- I have no idea about it
 -- Yes i know it but i never used it for help
 -- It is crap, it gives me no help
 -- Not very good but sometimes useful
 -- Very good for self learning
 -- It is nice, have plenty of information and info about LibreOffice
 functions and tips
 -- Very good and satisfying

 - What do you think about LibreOffice Guides
 -- I have no idea about it
 -- Yes i know it but i never used one for help
 -- It is crap, it gives me no help
 -- Not good but sometimes useful
 -- It is nice, have plenty of information and info about LibreOffice
 functions and tips
 -- Very good and satisfying
 -- Teaches me all the stuff i need

 - Have you ever tried to learn more about using LibreOffice components
 and improve your skills by LibreOffice bundled help? If so, please
 rate it (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)

 - Have you ever tried to learn more about using LibreOffice components
 and improve your skills by LibreOffice Guides? If so, please rate it
 (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)


 - What do you think about ask.libreoffice.org
 -- I have no idea about it
 -- Ooo, the ghost cowboy town you mean?
 -- People are rude and they don't help me
 -- Finding answers could be late but it works
 -- Nice though
 -- Very good, the first place i ask for help and get it
 -- Thank god for it!
 (irc and e-mail list 

[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Zeki Bildirici]

2013/2/16 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net:
 Hi,
Hi Martin,
 the only survey that would answer how good or bad current help content
 and current organization of help topics as well as need for help by
 the users would be to add a survey system into the LO UI, that would
 report back to a server - where/when do users press F1, what topics
 they look for etc. Upon installation of LO user would be asked if she
 allows LO to report back anonymously about the use of help system.
 Hopefully that could be done in a simple way, I just hope that help
 content calls are small parts of data that could be easily tracked
 back to actual situations.
 Such a query should run for a few months and then the data should be
 mined through to get meaningful results.

I don't think this kind of tracking would give sufficient information.
First there is a technical restriction, this kind of tracking will not
include users which are staying the last stable version. And it is not
a community sense approach, the info will be data only and it will be
accumulated slowly and it will be very hard to comment of the output.
Also many people will ignore such notification. It is a machine way
and gives no space for the people's social behaviour and alternatives.

We should see the help channels together in a complex picture, They
must be taken complementary of each other

 Then one can start talking about other kinds of help etc.

As i said, we shouldn't separate them or put them in order. Help is
needed an it is served in multiple ways, the problem is awareness and
promoting people to use them in any way which suits their needs.

Starting with a simple and friendly survey will be a first step, also
we all know that LibreOffice has a restricted manpower and other
critical priorities. This kind of implementation may never come into
life, or may irritate people to collect their information.

I want to quote David Watson's words, sometimes you don't have to do
it right, you just need to do something, or an old Turkish word
Caravan train is merged on the road We cannot be perfect at the
beginning but we have to start.

I think such survey will also help to make people aware of
LibreOffice's help channels at least which can be considered as a big
gain imho.

Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Improving the usage of help.libreoffice.org site

[Zeki Bildirici]

Hi,

After reading the replies, and remembering the previous arguments, i
want to point the important distinction between which is better
approach and which way we should improve approach.

Previously i said that we should change people's habits to get help,
and all stuff we had discussed are hypothetical base which we stand
on. But i am wondering that do we know people's choices, habits and
their experiences on reaching help info or their thoughts?

User surveys are best for in this conditions to get to know the users
behavior. I can give my example about a user survey about the Pardus
GNU/Linux which i've prepared and had very good results and feedback
from users. It was about the problems on getting help, inclusion on
contribution and their discouragements and plus and minus points.

Maybe we should issue a survey about the general help picture of
LibreOffice. English is not my native language thus it may have
considered a weird language. I've used kwiksurveys before, that was
very simple and has good options, if we have a better platform then it
will be better.

The basic questions can be as follows:



- Have you ever heard the following help channels of LibreOffice

--- ask.libreoffice.org portal
--- LibreOffice forums
--- LibreOffice user e-mail lists
--- #LibreOffice IRC channel
--- LibreOffice bundled/online help on help.libreoffice.org
--- LibreOffice user guides

- What will you do if you need help on LibreOffice
--- I search the info for the solution on internet
--- Ask to my friends who knows LibreOffice better
--- Ask for help on genereal (non-LibreOffice) forums
--- Ask for help on LibreOffice forums
--- Ask for help on LibreOffice user e-mail lists
--- Search on LibreOffice bundled help
--- Search on LibreOffice Users gide

- If you have used ask.libreoffice.org, could you please rate your
satisfaction (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)
.
(same question for other channels)

- Have you ever used LibreOffice bundled help, to learn new stuff and
improve your skills to use LibreOffice components?

- Have you ever used LibreOffice Guides, to learn new stuff and
improve your skills to use LibreOffice components?

- What do you feel during your search about getting help on LibreOffice
--- I have no idea how to get help for my problem
--- I am generally hopeless to find help, but i keep on trying
--- I rarely find help
--- I am very disappointed about all my this tries to get help
--- I can usually find help
--- I am a self learner and i love to find my own solutions, thus i am confident
--- I always find help from real life friends
--- I can find help from people on various internet platforms

- What do you think about bundled help (help.libreoffice.org)
-- I have no idea about it
-- Yes i know it but i never used it for help
-- It is crap, it gives me no help
-- Not very good but sometimes useful
-- Very good for self learning
-- It is nice, have plenty of information and info about LibreOffice
functions and tips
-- Very good and satisfying

- What do you think about LibreOffice Guides
-- I have no idea about it
-- Yes i know it but i never used one for help
-- It is crap, it gives me no help
-- Not good but sometimes useful
-- It is nice, have plenty of information and info about LibreOffice
functions and tips
-- Very good and satisfying
-- Teaches me all the stuff i need

- Have you ever tried to learn more about using LibreOffice components
and improve your skills by LibreOffice bundled help? If so, please
rate it (1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)

- Have you ever tried to learn more about using LibreOffice components
and improve your skills by LibreOffice Guides? If so, please rate it
(1-10, 1 is worse 10 is very satisfying)


- What do you think about ask.libreoffice.org
-- I have no idea about it
-- Ooo, the ghost cowboy town you mean?
-- People are rude and they don't help me
-- Finding answers could be late but it works
-- Nice though
-- Very good, the first place i ask for help and get it
-- Thank god for it!
(irc and e-mail list questions may be added similarly)

- Did you ever got help from using social media (facebook, twitter,
linkedin etc)
-- Never tried, does it works?
-- No, i am not a geek nor my network!
-- Asked some but no one helped me
-- Yes i had some
-- My network is cool, and it is the fastest way to get help

- Have you ever used Microsoft Office bundled help or help portal, if
so, please share your thoughts
(free format answers)



If we could understand people's behavior better, we should focus on
the minuses and improve them.

But i should say that, getting help is about willing to get help and
about self learning and willing to learn more. Which is the key point
that we can promote it by our help resources.


Best regards,
Zeki

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spam on the Spanish site?

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

Yes, that’s a lot of spam. I suggest to put a captcha, or remove that
comments plugin altogether.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi,

 there's something weird with http://es.libreoffice.org
 If you scroll down you'll see something I call Spam but I might be
 wrong.
 Help is (urgently) appreaciated.

 Thanks,
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 Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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 Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Foundation

[klaus-jürgen weghorn ol]

Hi Membership commitee,
I want to lead you to a discussion started at l10n-ml:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/msg04426.html

Am 23.04.2012 10:06, schrieb Michał:

Dnia 23 kwiecień 2012 10:04:25 Lior Kaplan pisze:

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Manveru1986manveru1...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hello!
As a foundation member since this year's april am I listed anywhere?



http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/

Kaplan



Nope :) List should be updated with newest members.




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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request authority for Korean page on libreoffice.org

[Andras Timar]

Hello Jihui Choi,

2012/4/15 Jihui Choi jihui.c...@gmail.com:
 Hello, everyone.
 I'm Jihui Choi.

 I'd like to make Korean pages on libreoffice.org.
 What do I need to get proper authority for that?

Welcome! It's the website list where you should ask, I put it on CC.

Best regards,
Andras

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 13:34:

 Italian user list (us...@it.libreoffice.org) seems to be broken or in
 some busy state: what's the matter?
 It may be since about January the 4th.
 [...]
 I just checked, and the list seems to work fine. Not many messages coming
 in, but the last one was from January 11th, sent by you:

To add on that: Looking at the logs: A couple of messages have been
rejected as SPAM, but judging from the sender-addresses
do-not-re...@select2gether.com or norespon...@yahoo.com.es or
mrcostaakdam...@msn.com those rejections seem to be legitimate.

But you might post a notice stating something if you receive a
message stating that your post was rejected as spam, please send again
and cc the postmaster (@documentfoundation.org) address to evaluate
the reason.

But to state it clearly: I as well as Florian see nothing wrong with
the list - it just is a more silent list - not unusual for it to not
receive a post for a few days.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

[Carlo Strata]

Il 12/01/2012 13:56, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:

Hi *,

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org  wrote:

Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 13:34:


Italian user list (us...@it.libreoffice.org) seems to be broken or in
some busy state: what's the matter?
It may be since about January the 4th.

[...]
I just checked, and the list seems to work fine. Not many messages coming
in, but the last one was from January 11th, sent by you:

To add on that: Looking at the logs: A couple of messages have been
rejected as SPAM, but judging from the sender-addresses
do-not-re...@select2gether.com or norespon...@yahoo.com.es or
mrcostaakdam...@msn.com those rejections seem to be legitimate.

But you might post a notice stating something if you receive a
message stating that your post was rejected as spam, please send again
and cc the postmaster (@documentfoundation.org) address to evaluate
the reason.

But to state it clearly: I as well as Florian see nothing wrong with
the list - it just is a more silent list - not unusual for it to not
receive a post for a few days.

ciao
Christian




Thank you to Everyone, but (...) someone of us receive something like this:


 Messaggio originale 
Oggetto: Delivery Status Notification
Data: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:22:50 +0100
Mittente: Mail Delivery Service postmas...@cp-out8.libero.it
A: lcc...@infinito.it



 - These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail 
server:

us...@it.libreoffice.org; Failed; 5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address)

Remote MTA bilbo.documentfoundation.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550 
5.7.1us...@it.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail 
appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached 
results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.



Whati do you think about?

Carlo

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 14:18:


 Remote MTA bilbo.documentfoundation.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550
5.7.1us...@it.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail
appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached
results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.


Whati do you think about?


this means that the mailserver trying to deliver messages has been put 
on several (external, non-TDF) blacklists, probably for sending out 
spam. It is mainly your provider's duty to fix this problem. We need to 
rely on blacklists for spam filtering.


In cases where your provider cannot help you, we can -temporarily- 
whitelist the sending server. So, first is to ping your provider and 
tell him he seems to be blacklisted due to spamming. In case that does 
not help, the next time you receive such a message, please send a direct 
note to postmas...@documentfoundation.org, with the date and time of the 
original message, and we will investigate.


Sorry for any inconveniences,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

[Carlo Strata]

Il 12/01/2012 15:02, Florian Effenberger ha scritto:

Hi,

Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 14:18:


 Remote MTA bilbo.documentfoundation.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550
5.7.1us...@it.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail
appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached
results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.


Whati do you think about?


this means that the mailserver trying to deliver messages has been put 
on several (external, non-TDF) blacklists, probably for sending out 
spam. It is mainly your provider's duty to fix this problem. We need 
to rely on blacklists for spam filtering.


In cases where your provider cannot help you, we can -temporarily- 
whitelist the sending server. So, first is to ping your provider and 
tell him he seems to be blacklisted due to spamming. In case that does 
not help, the next time you receive such a message, please send a 
direct note to postmas...@documentfoundation.org, with the date and 
time of the original message, and we will investigate.


Sorry for any inconveniences,
Florian


Thank you all!

It happens sometimes that libero.it smtp is seen as spammer. This time 
to Felix others to me. I'll keep in mind your suggestions.

I think too it's better to rely on blcklists for spam filtering! ;-)

Carlo


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Not able to change | translate text https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ka/

[Andras Timar]

Go to https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ka/admin.html

Regards,
Andras

2011/9/22 bankadmin bankad...@gmail.com:

 It works now.  Thank you Andras and RImas!

 Another question:
 how to add users / give them rights to edit ( translate) website:
 http://ka.libreoffice.org/ ?


 Ka

 On 9/22/2011 11:44 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

 Hi Ka,

 you do have rights on Pootle, I guess someone has just granted them.
 Make sure you log in, and enjoy translating!

 Regards,
 Rimas

 2011.09.22 07:34, bankadmin rašė:

 Pootle user name is ka.libreoffice.org (same as our localization website)

 Thank you.
 Ka


 On 9/21/2011 11:25 PM, Andras Timar wrote:

 Hi,

 2011/9/21 bankadminbankad...@gmail.com:

 Dear Admins,

 I am not able to change/translate text
 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ka
 Please help.

 What is your Pootle user name? Tell me, and I give you rights.

 Cheers,
 Andras






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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Not able to change | translate text https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ka/

[Andras Timar]

Oh, sorry. You meant the website. I don't know that.

2011/9/22 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com:
 Go to https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ka/admin.html

 Regards,
 Andras

 2011/9/22 bankadmin bankad...@gmail.com:

 It works now.  Thank you Andras and RImas!

 Another question:
 how to add users / give them rights to edit ( translate) website:
 http://ka.libreoffice.org/ ?


 Ka

 On 9/22/2011 11:44 AM, Rimas Kudelis wrote:

 Hi Ka,

 you do have rights on Pootle, I guess someone has just granted them.
 Make sure you log in, and enjoy translating!

 Regards,
 Rimas

 2011.09.22 07:34, bankadmin rašė:

 Pootle user name is ka.libreoffice.org (same as our localization website)

 Thank you.
 Ka


 On 9/21/2011 11:25 PM, Andras Timar wrote:

 Hi,

 2011/9/21 bankadminbankad...@gmail.com:

 Dear Admins,

 I am not able to change/translate text
 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/ka
 Please help.

 What is your Pootle user name? Tell me, and I give you rights.

 Cheers,
 Andras







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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Granting publisher rights on NL site

[Mihkel Tõnnov]

Hi *,
could someone grant publisher rights to san...@tilde.ee (username: d-fens)
on et.libreoffice.org? :)

Best regards,
Mihkel






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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Granting publisher rights on NL site

[Erich Christian]

Hi Mihkel,

Am 21.09.2011 08:30, schrieb Mihkel Tõnnov:
 could someone grant publisher rights to san...@tilde.ee (username: d-fens)
 on et.libreoffice.org? :)

granted  :-)

cheers
Erich

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] ka.libreoffice.org

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:16 PM, bankadmin bankad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Site ka.libreoffice.org is not active.
 Please advise.

You need to add content to it. Log in as admin and then you should be
able to add pages to it. There is a help available here
http://userhelp.silverstripe.org/ that should let you begin. If you
have further questions, please ask them on the website list.

Kind regards
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n]

[bankadmin]

WaW! It is really fast !
Thanks Sophie .

Ka


On 8/21/2011 12:54 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Kakhaber Kheladze,

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:46 PM, bankadminbankad...@gmail.com  wrote:

Dear Sophie,

I have created account As suggested on recommended link . Please create a
  web site ka.libreoffice.org.
Our team is
Kakhaber Kheladze | Project Sponsor / Owner | bankad...@gmail.com
David Chokhonelidze | Technical manager  | d...@fina2.net
Nick Gochiashvili | Senior Developer | gochiashv...@fina2.net

I'm ccing the website list. Thanks for creating accounts and welcome
to your team. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any question.
Erich or Christian, could you follow up with the request of creating
the Georgian website: ka.libreoffice.org. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Sophie

Thanks

Kakhaber Kheladze

On 8/17/2011 9:40 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Bankadmin,

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, bankadminbankad...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear Admin,

Georgian team would like to have  own website on: ka.libreoffice.org or
ge.libreoffice.org.
Please setup web.

Please follow the steps explained here to get a website in your language:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
The ISO code for Georgian is ka, so following this code seems better
than using ge.

Kind regards
Sophie








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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n]

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Kakhaber Kheladze,

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:46 PM, bankadmin bankad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Sophie,

 I have created account As suggested on recommended link . Please create a
  web site ka.libreoffice.org.
 Our team is
 Kakhaber Kheladze | Project Sponsor / Owner | bankad...@gmail.com
 David Chokhonelidze | Technical manager  | d...@fina2.net
 Nick Gochiashvili | Senior Developer | gochiashv...@fina2.net

I'm ccing the website list. Thanks for creating accounts and welcome
to your team. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any question.
Erich or Christian, could you follow up with the request of creating
the Georgian website: ka.libreoffice.org. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Sophie

 Thanks

 Kakhaber Kheladze

 On 8/17/2011 9:40 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

 Hi Bankadmin,

 On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, bankadminbankad...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Dear Admin,

 Georgian team would like to have  own website on: ka.libreoffice.org or
 ge.libreoffice.org.
 Please setup web.

 Please follow the steps explained here to get a website in your language:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
 The ISO code for Georgian is ka, so following this code seems better
 than using ge.

 Kind regards
 Sophie





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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site

[Dr. Bernhard Dippold]

Hi David, all,

Just one remark to the content:

Would it be possible to change the link behind Design Team  (in: If you need 
to work 
on aspects of the LibreOffice project's branding for localization needs, our 
Design team 
helps you meet your needs while staying within the project's graphic charter 
and 
copyright constraints.) from the subscribe mail 
(mailto:design+subscr...@libreoffice.org)
to the Get-involved page?

- http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/ux-visual-designers/ (or just a 
relative link)

This would allow people to learn a bit more about the team, possibly leading to 
an 
improved interactive relation between designers in the l10n groups and the 
Design Team.

Thanks in advance!

 ... and about your link to the page: 

David Nelson wrote:
 Hi, :-)
 
 On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:15, Jean-Baptiste Faure  wrote:
  It seems you forgot the link in note [1]
 
 Toutes mes excuses, monsieur. ;-)
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/

If you don't refer to the secure page, you will not be bothered by the tweaked 
certificate:

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/

Best regards

Bernhard




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] Localization page on the site

[David Nelson]

Hi Bernhard, :-)

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 17:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
 Would it be possible to change the link behind Design Team

Done. ;-)

David Nelson

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] About http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html and Linux readme

[Martin Srebotnjak]

2011/1/14 David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz

 Hi Christian, Sophie, :-)

 @Christian: I don't see the page that contains the content of
 http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html but I need to update
 it, and this will need doing at each release.
 Where is it please?


A bit off-topic - this is another unlocalizable thing. We have all localized
the readme text in the po files, but the link opens the English readme for
all languages? Needs to be fixed.

Lp, m.

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