Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37
But cant you restrict this information to yourselves? Ezaga, pass me the meat From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Vasco Oguzua Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 8:20 PM To: WNF Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37 Dear Tabani, Thanks for at least educating me on when you taught in Ombaci, much I had known you for all those years we were together in Lesotho. I am not sure if you ever talked or discussed your teaching memories at Ombaci with us when we were in Lesotho. The unfortunate illusions Museveni created in 1986 when he came to power, the 10 point plan which he articulated and many of his lies he talked of when he took power fooled many, including me and many of his followers who fought with him in the bush. Examining what he said when he came to power in 1986 to his actions over the years fooled many who probably were his more avid supporters than the comments I made. Think of why many who fought with him and started working with him left himand his NRM. I could not understand why you think my honest questioning of when you taught at Ombaci was an ammunition and demeaning. The question is ammunition for what? What are you afraid of when you are asked to elaborate on your statements? At least I provided my reason for why I needed you to verify when you taught at Ombaci knowing very well that since you finished your University education at Lesotho you had not gone back to work in Uganda. I do not know if there was any statement I made which was not factual that it was demeaning you or intended to demean you. If there was any at all, then I will say I am sorry. At the same time you may need to reflect on some of what you say or write of other people, and assess them critically to find out if what you write could equally be demeaning, especially when it is an intellectual debate. While it is not bad to rely on what other people tell you about what is happening in Uganda, it may also be good for you to understand what people who are physically experiencing what is happening in Uganda and writing from physical experience on the ground, otherwise there is a fundamental problem in your assertions as you write them. You need to to at least have the courtesy to address people you are debating issues as an intellectual (as per your statement). One can have fundamental disagreement with respect and courtesy for the people they disagree with, which you lack as I have observed over a long period of time on this forum. There is nothing wrong for one to hold a different view on an issue but discuss the issue and respect for the people you are presenting your views to, instead of calling names and using a rude language as one of the ladies on the forum noted. I do not have anything more to debate with you on this particular issue, and I want to assure you that my questioning of when you taught in Ombaci was not to demean you as you may have thought. The unfortunate thing which I guess you forgot in your memory either deliberately or otherwise, is how we used to fight with some of the Rwandese who were with us in Lesotho who pretended to be Ugandans, but when Kagame took over in Rwanda, they immediately became Rwandese. I am sure you remember how they tried to sabotage us and our parties by calling us Amin's people (we from West Nile) those days and taking the issues to some of the University and government officials. Had it not been because I had a good relationship with some of the government and military officials and some of the Staff at the University Administration, we would have some troubles in Lesotho. I will not dwell on that because I think you know that and experienced it, and I hope you can remember that history and do your own rebuffing of your statement about how I used to praise Museveni. Good to hear that you are doing well and breathing the atmospheric pressure of Southern Africa. While we are here trying to breath air, for you you are breathing the atmospheric pressure. Please be careful not to breath high atmospheric pressure or low atmospheric pressure because they could be detrimental to your lungs. Calm down and let us all breath air, not atmospheric pressure. Have a great time and my kind regards to you. Vasco From: westnilenet-requ...@kym.netmailto:westnilenet-requ...@kym.net Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37 To: westnilenet@kym.netmailto:westnilenet@kym.net Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:54:54 +0300 Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.netmailto:westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.netmailto:westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.netmailto:westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please
Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37
I got your latest communication and laughed uncontrolably.The ammunition i meant is means for other people who equate EBEDE with LUGAZI .So i had to put facts clear to you.My curriculum Vitae shouldn`t be subject of discussion by individuals who donot matter in a society.These things occurred 25years ago.You and i were blessed by going to EXILE in early80`s.Honestly, we dramatically escaped the scourage of AIDS in Uganda.How many brothers and sisters have we LOST?For your information Poverty has always been there in our community in westnile.The reasons for the poverty are multi-factorial.You cannot just single out the President as a human being to be responsible .There are poor people all over the World.Even thieves are encouraged by AMERICAN GANGSTERS who purport to be Democratic leaders.Ugandan thieves are all graduates of the WESTERN WORLD.Service delivery is what our need most. From: Vasco Oguzua ogu...@hotmail.com To: WNF westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 7:19:47 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37 Dear Tabani, Thanks for at least educating me on when you taught in Ombaci, much I had known you for all those years we were together in Lesotho. I am not sure if you ever talked or discussed your teaching memories at Ombaci with us when we were in Lesotho. The unfortunate illusions Museveni created in 1986 when he came to power, the 10 point plan which he articulated and many of his lies he talked of when he took power fooled many, including me and many of his followers who fought with him in the bush. Examining what he said when he came to power in 1986 to his actions over the years fooled many who probably were his more avid supporters than the comments I made. Think of why many who fought with him and started working with him left himand his NRM. I could not understand why you think my honest questioning of when you taught at Ombaci was an ammunition and demeaning. The question is ammunition for what? What are you afraid of when you are asked to elaborate on your statements? At least I provided my reason for why I needed you to verify when you taught at Ombaci knowing very well that since you finished your University education at Lesotho you had not gone back to work in Uganda. I do not know if there was any statement I made which was not factual that it was demeaning you or intended to demean you. If there was any at all, then I will say I am sorry. At the same time you may need to reflect on some of what you say or write of other people, and assess them critically to find out if what you write could equally be demeaning, especially when it is an intellectual debate. While it is not bad to rely on what other people tell you about what is happening in Uganda, it may also be good for you to understand what people who are physically experiencing what is happening in Uganda and writing from physical experience on the ground, otherwise there is a fundamental problem in your assertions as you write them. You need to to at least have the courtesy to address people you are debating issues as an intellectual (as per your statement). One can have fundamental disagreement with respect and courtesy for the people they disagree with, which you lack as I have observed over a long period of time on this forum. There is nothing wrong for one to hold a different view on an issue but discuss the issue and respect for the people you are presenting your views to, instead of calling names and using a rude language as one of the ladies on the forum noted. I do not have anything more to debate with you on this particular issue, and I want to assure you that my questioning of when you taught in Ombaci was not to demean you as you may have thought. The unfortunate thing which I guess you forgot in your memory either deliberately or otherwise, is how we used to fight with some of the Rwandese who were with us in Lesotho who pretended to be Ugandans, but when Kagame took over in Rwanda, they immediately became Rwandese. I am sure you remember how they tried to sabotage us and our parties by calling us Amin's people (we from West Nile) those days and taking the issues to some of the University and government officials. Had it not been because I had a good relationship with some of the government and military officials and some of the Staff at the University Administration, we would have some troubles in Lesotho. I will not dwell on that because I think you know that and experienced it, and I hope you can remember that history and do your own rebuffing of your statement about how I used to praise Museveni. Good to hear that you are doing well and breathing the atmospheric pressure of Southern Africa. While we are here trying to breath air, for you you are breathing the atmospheric pressure. Please be careful not to breath high atmospheric pressure or low atmospheric pressure
Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37
Many thanks for sharing and God Bless. We shall continue to pray and God Bless us all. Kadara Kursum Akujo From: Dimba Tabani Patrick ptab...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 15:37:16 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37 I got your latest communication and laughed uncontrolably.The ammunition i meant is means for other people who equate EBEDE with LUGAZI .So i had to put facts clear to you.My curriculum Vitae shouldn`t be subject of discussion by individuals who donot matter in a society.These things occurred 25years ago.You and i were blessed by going to EXILE in early80`s.Honestly, we dramatically escaped the scourage of AIDS in Uganda.How many brothers and sisters have we LOST?For your information Poverty has always been there in our community in westnile.The reasons for the poverty are multi-factorial.You cannot just single out the President as a human being to be responsible .There are poor people all over the World.Even thieves are encouraged by AMERICAN GANGSTERS who purport to be Democratic leaders.Ugandan thieves are all graduates of the WESTERN WORLD.Service delivery is what our need most. From: Vasco Oguzua ogu...@hotmail.com To: WNF westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 7:19:47 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37 Dear Tabani, Thanks for at least educating me on when you taught in Ombaci, much I had known you for all those years we were together in Lesotho. I am not sure if you ever talked or discussed your teaching memories at Ombaci with us when we were in Lesotho. The unfortunate illusions Museveni created in 1986 when he came to power, the 10 point plan which he articulated and many of his lies he talked of when he took power fooled many, including me and many of his followers who fought with him in the bush. Examining what he said when he came to power in 1986 to his actions over the years fooled many who probably were his more avid supporters than the comments I made. Think of why many who fought with him and started working with him left himand his NRM. I could not understand why you think my honest questioning of when you taught at Ombaci was an ammunition and demeaning. The question is ammunition for what? What are you afraid of when you are asked to elaborate on your statements? At least I provided my reason for why I needed you to verify when you taught at Ombaci knowing very well that since you finished your University education at Lesotho you had not gone back to work in Uganda. I do not know if there was any statement I made which was not factual that it was demeaning you or intended to demean you. If there was any at all, then I will say I am sorry. At the same time you may need to reflect on some of what you say or write of other people, and assess them critically to find out if what you write could equally be demeaning, especially when it is an intellectual debate. While it is not bad to rely on what other people tell you about what is happening in Uganda, it may also be good for you to understand what people who are physically experiencing what is happening in Uganda and writing from physical experience on the ground, otherwise there is a fundamental problem in your assertions as you write them. You need to to at least have the courtesy to address people you are debating issues as an intellectual (as per your statement). One can have fundamental disagreement with respect and courtesy for the people they disagree with, which you lack as I have observed over a long period of time on this forum. There is nothing wrong for one to hold a different view on an issue but discuss the issue and respect for the people you are presenting your views to, instead of calling names and using a rude language as one of the ladies on the forum noted. I do not have anything more to debate with you on this particular issue, and I want to assure you that my questioning of when you taught in Ombaci was not to demean you as you may have thought. The unfortunate thing which I guess you forgot in your memory either deliberately or otherwise, is how we used to fight with some of the Rwandese who were with us in Lesotho who pretended to be Ugandans, but when Kagame took over in Rwanda, they immediately became Rwandese. I am sure you remember how they tried to sabotage us and our parties by calling us Amin's people (we from West Nile) those days and taking the issues to some of the University and government officials. Had it not been because I had a good relationship with some of the government and military officials and some of the Staff at the University Administration, we would have some troubles in Lesotho. I will not dwell on that because I think you know that and experienced it, and I hope you can remember that history and do
Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37
Dear Tabani, Thanks for at least educating me on when you taught in Ombaci, much I had known you for all those years we were together in Lesotho. I am not sure if you ever talked or discussed your teaching memories at Ombaci with us when we were in Lesotho. The unfortunate illusions Museveni created in 1986 when he came to power, the 10 point plan which he articulated and many of his lies he talked of when he took power fooled many, including me and many of his followers who fought with him in the bush. Examining what he said when he came to power in 1986 to his actions over the years fooled many who probably were his more avid supporters than the comments I made. Think of why many who fought with him and started working with him left himand his NRM. I could not understand why you think my honest questioning of when you taught at Ombaci was an ammunition and demeaning. The question is ammunition for what? What are you afraid of when you are asked to elaborate on your statements? At least I provided my reason for why I needed you to verify when you taught at Ombaci knowing very well that since you finished your University education at Lesotho you had not gone back to work in Uganda. I do not know if there was any statement I made which was not factual that it was demeaning you or intended to demean you. If there was any at all, then I will say I am sorry. At the same time you may need to reflect on some of what you say or write of other people, and assess them critically to find out if what you write could equally be demeaning, especially when it is an intellectual debate. While it is not bad to rely on what other people tell you about what is happening in Uganda, it may also be good for you to understand what people who are physically experiencing what is happening in Uganda and writing from physical experience on the ground, otherwise there is a fundamental problem in your assertions as you write them. You need to to at least have the courtesy to address people you are debating issues as an intellectual (as per your statement). One can have fundamental disagreement with respect and courtesy for the people they disagree with, which you lack as I have observed over a long period of time on this forum. There is nothing wrong for one to hold a different view on an issue but discuss the issue and respect for the people you are presenting your views to, instead of calling names and using a rude language as one of the ladies on the forum noted. I do not have anything more to debate with you on this particular issue, and I want to assure you that my questioning of when you taught in Ombaci was not to demean you as you may have thought. The unfortunate thing which I guess you forgot in your memory either deliberately or otherwise, is how we used to fight with some of the Rwandese who were with us in Lesotho who pretended to be Ugandans, but when Kagame took over in Rwanda, they immediately became Rwandese. I am sure you remember how they tried to sabotage us and our parties by calling us Amin's people (we from West Nile) those days and taking the issues to some of the University and government officials. Had it not been because I had a good relationship with some of the government and military officials and some of the Staff at the University Administration, we would have some troubles in Lesotho. I will not dwell on that because I think you know that and experienced it, and I hope you can remember that history and do your own rebuffing of your statement about how I used to praise Museveni. Good to hear that you are doing well and breathing the atmospheric pressure of Southern Africa. While we are here trying to breath air, for you you are breathing the atmospheric pressure. Please be careful not to breath high atmospheric pressure or low atmospheric pressure because they could be detrimental to your lungs. Calm down and let us all breath air, not atmospheric pressure. Have a great time and my kind regards to you. Vasco From: westnilenet-requ...@kym.net Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 34, Issue 37 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:54:54 +0300 Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Our Uganda (Dimba Tabani Patrick) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 06:52:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimba Tabani Patrick ptab...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Subject: Re:
