Re: [Wicket-user] what mail client did you use?

2006-09-13 Thread James Cook
I'm not a fan of gmail because all of your list mail is all bunched up in with all of your other lists. Labels just don't replace folders IMHO.Ayway, I just wanted to try changing the subject to see if a new thread was started. That seems like a bad move because of all the RE and spacing issues that other clients add to the subject line. Maybe they filter that cruft out?
-- jimOn 9/13/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/13/06, Gustavo Santucho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Thunderbird, threaded view.I liked Thunderbird too. But I use gmail for everything now.
 I don't know if it's true, but I was told that gmail requires subjects to stay unchanged in order to group threads. (seems to be the case in this list, anyway)True. But that's a good thing imho, as it'll let you start a new
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Re: [Wicket-user] what mail client to you use?

2006-09-13 Thread James Cook
LOL, just tried the same thing.Now what if I change the subject back to the original?On 9/13/06, Igor Vaynberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:this appears as a separate thread.
-IgorOn 9/13/06, Gustavo Santucho 
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 wrote:Does it work?PS: Note that the new subject contains the original one in your test.
-Gustavo.Igor Vaynberg wrote: subject change test On 9/13/06, *Gustavo Santucho* 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Thunderbird, threaded view. I don't know if it's true, but I was told that gmail requires subjects
 to stay unchanged in order to group threads. (seems to be the case in this list, anyway) - Gustavo. Erik Brakkee wrote:  Hi,
   I am having more and more difficulty following the mail discussions. I  need a mail client that supports watching mail threads.   Cheers
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Re: [Wicket-user] CSS not found

2006-08-07 Thread James Cook
I wouldn't be too quick to judge developers that struggle with your platform to be new to _good_ java programming. I have many years of Swing development experience and web experience dating back to the pre-servlet, pre-framework era. That said, Wicket does interest me because it is radically different that the page-based frameworks *and* JSF-based component frameworks available today. 
From my own experience, I would say the hardest part about _using_ Wicket is _learning_ Wicket. There is a hodgepodge of documentation scattered in a lot of different places. You are transitioning to a new version, and without a good collection of documents/best practices it seems a bit hopeless at times.
Your Wicket in Action book is many months off. Hopefully it is geared for Wicket 2.0. Also, perhaps you can get Manning to release it in their early access program. I know I would buy it today if a few initial chapters were available online.
-- jimOn 8/6/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to add to that that Wicket requires you to know your Java,while e.g. using JSP allows to build whole web sites with hardly anyJava knowledge. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable.Eelco
On 8/6/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What were/ are the problems you are experiencing Pierre-Yves? Usually the largest obstacle for people with Wicket (and Tapestry,
 Echo and GWT for that matter) is getting rid of the bad practices they got used to when working with frameworks like Struts etc. A lot of people learned programming Java web apps on frameworks like that, and
 never got much of the OO part. Otoh, if you're coming from e.g. Swing programming, Wicket should be easier for you. Wicket vs Stripes... it's oranges and pears - except for the fact that
 you both make web apps with them. Stripes is geared towards simplifying the common model 2 paradigm, and it does a very good job at that as far as I've seen, While Wicket is all about stateful, self
 contained, reusable components. Personally, I don't think Stripes is always easier than Wicket, especially when you look at e.g. 
http://mc4j.org/confluence/display/stripes/Binding+directly+to+your+domain+model ; Wicket's equivalent would be quite a lot easier imo, but for some things Stripes probably is easier, like when you are prototyping/
 moving your HTML structure around a lot. In the end, just choose which framework that gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling :) Stripes seems to be the best choice if you want to go for a model 2 framework.
 Read some more here: http://www.virtuas.com/articles/webframework-sweetspots.html Eelco
 On 8/6/06, Pierre-Yves Saumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I would be very interested to know how you compare Wicket and Stripes  and why you're leaning toward Wicket. (I didn't know about Stripes, but
  at first glance, it seems much simpler than Wicket, which I have been  struggling with for two weeks now without much success!).   Pierre-Yves   Bill Bruyn a écrit :
   I have an opportunity to use a new framework on a current project, and   I've been trying to decide between Wicket and Stripes.Both look really   nice, but at the moment I'm leaning toward Wicket.Got a skeleton
   project set up with 1.2.1 (via Wicket Bench 0.3.0) and am running it   with a JettyLauncher from Eclipse.So far, so good, but my wicket page   markup (e.g., SomePage.html
) doesn't find my css. I've tried it at the root of my webapp and in the same directory as the   markup (looks like from the examples I should just be able to drop it on
   the root).I've tried adding a resource to the class via   super.getResourceSettings().addResourceFolder (though I shouldn't need   that, right?) and nothing seems to work.I'm sure this is trivial, and
   it's a bit of a disappointment that I've already had to ask for help,   but I've done some googling, and some browsing of the Wiki and the FAQ   to no avail.  
   BTW, I should also mention that when I request non-existent resources   from the app (e.g., foo.html) I am always redirected to the app's   homepage instead of getting a 404.Is that the desired behavior?Is it
   configurable?   Thanks very much in advance, Bill   
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Re: [Wicket-user] Basic Skeleton, Beginner Questions

2006-08-03 Thread James Cook
On 8/3/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ok, then it seems as the wicket-homepage is bit away of the officialspecification what anappserver is (these are only the big-thing with whole EE stack with them)Not to pick nits, but I think maybe your understanding of 'appserver' is a bit dated. In today's day and age, Spring, Hibernate, JOTM, clustering technologies, etc. have improved the status of Tomcat, Jetty, and Resin from lowly webservers to deserve the appserver title.
FWIW, most Gartner surveys include Jakarta Tomcat in the category of appserver.
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[Wicket-user] Dynamic Template Selection

2006-07-24 Thread James Cook
What is the best practice in 1.2 and 2.0 for developing a component that has different visual orientations depending on the developers purpose? For example, suppose I am writing a component to display advertising blurbs like Google's Adwords. The component can have a vertical or horizontal layout. Also suppose for the sake of argument, the layout orientation cannot be controlled via CSS. Since there is only one markup file associated with a component (true?) there doesn't seem to be an obvious way to achieve this goal. Is there a recipe for dealing with this scenario?
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Re: [Wicket-user] quickstart

2006-07-07 Thread James Cook
And where is the *.ipr file for IntelliJ developers? It was in 1.1.1.On 7/7/06, Scott Swank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Thanks.I thought I remembered something about OGNL no longer being
needed -- but it seemed far easier to just throw it in the libdirectory.Why not manually add the jars to the zip?It seems like a nicerintroduction to Wicket that way.None the less, thanks for everything.
On 7/7/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, the dependency on OGNL was removed a long time ago. Eelco
 On 7/7/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  we are working on a fix, the problem was screwed up maven's dist  plugin, should be fixed in 
1.2.1 and subsequent releases.   -IgorOn 7/7/06, Scott Swank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I nabbed the wicket 
1.2 quickstart for a quick prototype at work and   noticed that it was missing the jetty jar.I then copied the   following jars from the 1.1.1 quickstart into the 1.2 quickstart lib   directory and everything is up and running.
 jasper-compiler-4.1.30.jar   jasper-runtime-4.1.30.jar   ognl-2.6.7.jar   org.mortbay.jetty-4.2.22.jar   servletapi-2.3.jar
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