[Wicket-user] Build failure
Hi, I get this error message when trying to build wicket: ERROR] BUILD FAILURE [INFO] [INFO] Compilation failure error: error reading /Users/john/.m2/repository/org/apache/wicket/ wicket/1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT/wicket-1.3.0-incubating- SNAPSHOT.jar; invalid header field I am using Maven 2.0.3. Any ideas? Thanks, John - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Build failure
I removed all wicket jars from my maven repo and also from the target folders of the source folders. The file wicket-1.3.0-incubating- SNAPSHOT.jar was recreated but a similar error was shown: Loading source file /Users/John/Development/wicket-1.x/jdk-1.4/wicket- extensions/src/main/java/wicket/extensions/wizard/WizardModel.java... Loading source file /Users/John/Development/wicket-1.x/jdk-1.4/wicket- extensions/src/main/java/wicket/extensions/wizard/WizardStep.java... 1 error [INFO] [ERROR] BUILD ERROR [INFO] [INFO] An error has occurred in JavaDocs report generation. Embedded error: Exit code: 1 - error: error reading /Users/John/ Development/wicket-1.x/jdk-1.4/wicket/target/wicket-1.3.0-incubating- SNAPSHOT.jar; invalid header field On 13 Mar 2007, at 12:02, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Probably you have remove the jars from your local repository and build again. Martijn On 3/13/07, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I get this error message when trying to build wicket: ERROR] BUILD FAILURE [INFO] - --- [INFO] Compilation failure error: error reading /Users/john/.m2/repository/org/apache/wicket/ wicket/1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT/wicket-1.3.0-incubating- SNAPSHOT.jar; invalid header field I am using Maven 2.0.3. Any ideas? Thanks, John - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Learn Wicket at ApacheCon Europe: http://apachecon.com Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket Wicket 1.2.5 will keep your server alive. Download Wicket now! http://wicketframework.org -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Build failure
On 13 Mar 2007, at 12:31, Frank Bille wrote: I get the same error and have tried to remove local jar files. I'll look into it tonight (can't get workspace setup using new al structure) Great, cheers. Until then I have checked out the last revision before the restructuring. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Build failure
Strange, I just deleted the entire .m2/repository/org/apache/wicket/ directory and checked out a fresh copy of http://svn.apache.org/repos/ asf/incubator/wicket/branches/wicket-1.x into a new directory, updated mvn to 2.0.5 (using darwin ports) and ran: mvn -Dmaven.test.skip=true install But got the exact same error as before: Loading source file /Users/John/Development/wicket/current/wicket-1.x/ jdk-1.4/wicket-extensions/src/main/java/wicket/extensions/wizard/ WizardModel.java... Loading source file /Users/John/Development/wicket/current/wicket-1.x/ jdk-1.4/wicket-extensions/src/main/java/wicket/extensions/wizard/ WizardStep.java... 1 error [INFO] [ERROR] BUILD ERROR [INFO] [INFO] An error has occurred in JavaDocs report generation. Embedded error: Exit code: 1 - error: error reading /Users/John/ Development/wicket/current/wicket-1.x/jdk-1.4/wicket/target/ wicket-1.3.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar; invalid header field could it be a different javadoc binary that causes the different behaviour? My Mac OS X java version is reported as: Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-164) On 13 Mar 2007, at 14:40, Martijn Dashorst wrote: I just did a clean checkout of our 1.x branch, removed my local repository, and it 'just worked'. I do use maven 2.0.5, perhaps that is the deciding factor? Martijn On 3/13/07, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Mar 2007, at 12:31, Frank Bille wrote: I get the same error and have tried to remove local jar files. I'll look into it tonight (can't get workspace setup using new al structure) Great, cheers. Until then I have checked out the last revision before the restructuring. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Learn Wicket at ApacheCon Europe: http://apachecon.com Join the wicket community at irc.freenode.net: ##wicket Wicket 1.2.5 will keep your server alive. Download Wicket now! http://wicketframework.org -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] URL problem in phonebook app
I have reverted to Wicket 1.3 now because of this and the NPE problem being thrown due to a null version manager. So from what I remember... I initially had no filterPath parameter in my web.xml because the filter was mapped to the webroot /* Then I copied the configuration from the phonebook app and found that this did not work either and that the phonebook app is broken due to this bug. When debugging I could see that the method WicketFilter.isWicketRequest() was testing /app (from the filterPath arg) against /app/ and incorrectly returning false. On 2 Mar 2007, at 17:45, Eelco Hillenius wrote: How did you configure the filter in web.xml? Eelco On 2/26/07, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to use the wicket filter in trunk but cannot get it to respond to a url to my home page. The same problem seems to happen with the phonebook app. When I run the phonebook app I enter http:// localhost:8080/phonebook which redirects to http://localhost:8080/ phonebook/app. The method WicketFilter.isWicketRequest() returns false and so the request is ignored. John. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] URL problem in phonebook app
OK, but the phone-book app is still broken in 2.0 due to this bug in WicketFilter.isWicketRequest () - at least it was a week ago when I wrote the initial email. Can anyone get the current phonebook app to work? I think when that bug is fixed my app would have worked. But now I have reverted to 1.3 anyway... On 5 Mar 2007, at 17:44, Igor Vaynberg wrote: in latest 1.3 the wicket path param should not be necessary because wicket will scan your web.xml to find it for you -igor On 3/5/07, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have reverted to Wicket 1.3 now because of this and the NPE problem being thrown due to a null version manager. So from what I remember... I initially had no filterPath parameter in my web.xml because the filter was mapped to the webroot /* Then I copied the configuration from the phonebook app and found that this did not work either and that the phonebook app is broken due to this bug. When debugging I could see that the method WicketFilter.isWicketRequest () was testing /app (from the filterPath arg) against /app/ and incorrectly returning false. On 2 Mar 2007, at 17:45, Eelco Hillenius wrote: How did you configure the filter in web.xml? Eelco On 2/26/07, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to use the wicket filter in trunk but cannot get it to respond to a url to my home page. The same problem seems to happen with the phonebook app. When I run the phonebook app I enter http:// localhost:8080/phonebook which redirects to http://localhost:8080/ phonebook/app. The method WicketFilter.isWicketRequest() returns false and so the request is ignored. John. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page= join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] URL problem in phonebook app
Hi, I am trying to use the wicket filter in trunk but cannot get it to respond to a url to my home page. The same problem seems to happen with the phonebook app. When I run the phonebook app I enter http:// localhost:8080/phonebook which redirects to http://localhost:8080/ phonebook/app. The method WicketFilter.isWicketRequest() returns false and so the request is ignored. John. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Phonebook app links
Hi, I have checked out the latest wicket 2.0 code from apache and the phonebook from Sourceforge and everything compiles correctly after changing some onSubmit methods from protected to public. The phonebook home page displays correctly but no links work... maybe because they have links like this: http://localhost:8080/phonebook/servlet?wicket:interface=: 2:createLink::ILinkListener Thanks, John. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Javascript behaviour
Hi, I need to add a behaviour to a link so that when it is clicked several other component are made visible. I could do this with an AJAX link but it seems that this might be better acheived with a simple bit of client side script. Is there any existing behaviour to to this sort of thing or should I write my own? Thanks, John. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Eclipse don't copy .html to output folder
This sounds like the problem I came across a few weeks ago:http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.wicket.user/13599/focus=13605I solved it by creating a new workspace and importing all my projects again.I reported this bug to Eclipse and they said that it was a problem with the classpath format change but that they do not support workspace upgrades between milestone releases. But they said that they do support upgrades between versions.Are you using the latest 3.2 release?JohnOn 4 Jul 2006, at 10:46, Paolo Di Tommaso wrote:Yes. It's really very strange. I don't use any filter, I've tried also to force a filter like "**/*.java, **/*.html" ... but it still refuse to copy any html file. The only way to make it to work is switching to a fresh workspace. PaoloOn 7/4/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: even after a refresh of your source dir the html stay behind?Do you have somewhere a filter defined?johanUsing Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Is it possible to embed jsp in wicket ?
Hi Ingram,I have been using Wicket in a Webwork based application which I imagine would be very similar to what you want to do. Both frameworks register a Servlet to handle requests and can be mapped to any servlet path. I have had no problems switching from pages in one framework to the other. State can still be shared between frameworks using the HTTP session.I eventually plan to move all the code to Wicket and now that wicket supports stateless pages there is nothing stopping me completely removing Webwork. You cannot directly use your JSP pages in Wicket but it is extremely simple to capture the output of one (show source in your browser) and then add the necessary wicket:id tags.John.On 28 Jun 2006, at 12:58, Ingram Chen wrote: We want to merge wicket into exist struts project and there are some parts of system still requires jsp. Could I include jsp (output of jsp) in wicket page ? Any suggestion are welcome ! -- Ingram ChenJava [EMAIL PROTECTED]Institue of BioMedical Sciences Academia Sinica Taiwanblog: http://www.javaworld.com.tw/roller/page/ingramchen Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] will wicket-contrib-dojo upgrade to wicket 1.2?
Perhaps all 1.2 compliant stuff could be copied into the wicket-stuff/ WICKET_1_2 branch so we know what should work. On 22 Jun 2006, at 01:45, Martijn Dashorst wrote: I tried (a 0.4 snapshot version of ) dojo with 1.2, but that got several exceptions. After putting the most recent (soon to be released) Wicket 1.2.1 and trunk from dojo into the project, both seemed to work. When 1.2.1 is released, I'll see to upgrade and put up a release (0.4) of dojo. Martijn On 6/22/06, Nili Adoram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know whether it is planned to upgrade wicket-contrib- dojo to wicket 1.2? Currently we cannot use them both in the same classpath since there are collisions. Thanks Nili All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Download Wicket 1.2 now! Write Ajax applications without touching JavaScript! -- http://wicketframework.org All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Is Wicket ok for DDA web applications?
Fascinating. I had never heard of DDA compliance before but a little Googling makes me realise that I should really take notice. Especially the part about sites like Priceline.com being successfully sued over their accessibility. http://www.webcredible.co.uk/user-friendly-resources/web- accessibility/uk-website-legal-requirements.shtml Regards your question: wicket does by default use some Javascript to detect new windows for its PageMap implementation. But this is not essential user interface script and I can't see how it could stop a site being accessed correctly. All other JavaScript and AJAX is completely optional. You have complete control over the mark-up that is returned (unlike JSF) so you can use CSS and basic HTML if you want and be completely compliant. John. On 22 Jun 2006, at 10:47, Andrew Bate wrote: Hi, I'm considering looking at Wicket after a painful two weeks on JSF (actually Apache MyFaces) and thinking there has to be a better way...!. Most of my work over the last 5 years has been JSP/ Struts etc... I'm a J2EE developer but coming firmly from the web side rather than a back-end developmer. I want to use a framework that has clean markup and is intuitive for people with web skills. (Anyone who has seen the ghastly JSF tabular layouts and poor Tomahawk div implementation will understand!) I am about to start work on a webapp where one of the requirements is for a DDA compliant interface. If I were to use Wicket, does it have any reliance on Javascript or anything else that may jeopardise a DDA interface? Thanks, Andrew Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
A link could exist on a Stateless page that creates state. This would be the point where a stateless site moves to being stateful.For example, On my stateless home page I could have a link that has an onClick() handler which stores something in the users session (creating it also).On 22 Jun 2006, at 09:27, Johan Compagner wrote:yes we could but then a link really doesn't have state.The form has its new state pushed anyway,. And a link not. So then you need to encode something in the url..Because what should the link do? If it is only a next page and no state of the current page is touched you can use bookmarkable links. johanOn 6/14/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We weren't only eating Tapas... I drank a lot of wine. That must haveblurred my memory a bit :)Cool Johan. So my hunch is that Links can be done in the same fashion?Though we should draw the line somewhere too. EelcoOn 6/14/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHAT! you have to listen more eelco :) i told you that i want to have exactly the same behaviour as a normal Form! when we where eating tappas you wanted to go directly the to resulting page. And i said no i want to go first to the form page and go on from that so that the processing is exactly the same.. (remember? :)) It is exactly how igor describes it. For a developer it is completely transparant only for one thing: The state of the form (validators and so on are in the init state) The data is ofcourse 'new' because that is posted. johan On 6/14/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I haven't looked at it, but just remember Johan told me processing would go via the pageparameters constructor. If it's via the onSubmit handler, that's all the nicer. EelcoOn 6/13/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you would use the onclick. what happens when a stateless form is submitted is that a new page instance is created instead of looked up from sessionstored, and then processing continues as usual. -Igor On 6/13/06, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Jun 2006, at 19:55, Eelco Hillenius wrote:Or maybe there will be more trade offs. Depends on how badly people want it, and who will work on it. In 2.0, Johan built in a form that posts back to a bookmarkable page, so you can even build pages with forms that are still stateless. Eelco OK, thanks I will have a look into that. I have not yet checked out2.0 but would you just be able to clarify - when a stateless form issubmitted would I still use an onClick handler on my form component?Or do I need to work with page parameters and move my form processing logic away from the actual form component? ___Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user___Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-userUsing Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Is Wicket ok for DDA web applications?
Check this out! First listing is a .gov.uk website giving info on DDA. The Googlebot indexed a page saying "Your browser does not support _javascript_!". Clearly they don't regard _javascript_ as a problem.http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=dda+support+_javascript_+worthingbtnG=SearchThe PageMap _javascript_ allows your site to have multiple windows open and give each its own in-session page stack. Unless your application _must_ have multiple window support then this does not affect usability. Also, Wicket 2.0 has infinite disk based page storage so I think that even this restriction no longer applies.One site I read said that compliance will probably equate to supporting this w3 accessibility guidelines at:http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/full-checklist.htmlwhich contains this relevant statement:6.3 Ensure that pages are usable when scripts, applets, or other programmatic objects are turned off or not supported. If this is not possible, provide equivalent information on an alternative accessible page.So basically, the PageMap detection script does does not affect accessiblity but things like the SubmitLink could if there was no alternative.John.On 22 Jun 2006, at 12:08, Rüdiger Schulz wrote:Hello,a question regarding that PageMap-_javascript_:What will happen if a browser has JS disabled? Will it still bepossible to reach every page and all?Another thing to avoid is the SubmitLink, as it will _javascript_ aswell.Coming to think about it - are there other Components which _require__javascript_ to work? Maybe we should start a list on the wiki...DDA compliance becomes definitly more and more important, especiallyin the public sector.-- greetings from Berlin,Rüdiger SchulzJohn Patterson wrote on 22.06.2006 at 17:51: Fascinating. I had never heard of DDA compliance before but a littleGoogling makes me realise that I should really take notice. Especially the part about sites like Priceline.com being successfullysued over their accessibility. http://www.webcredible.co.uk/user-friendly-resources/web- accessibility/uk-website-legal-requirements.shtml Regards your question: wicket does by default use some _javascript_ todetect new windows for its PageMap implementation. But this is notessential user interface script and I can't see how it could stop asite being accessed correctly. All other _javascript_ and AJAX is completely optional. You have complete control over the mark-up thatis returned (unlike JSF) so you can use CSS and basic HTML if you want and be completely compliant. John. On 22 Jun 2006, at 10:47, Andrew Bate wrote: Hi,I'm considering looking at Wicket after a painful two weeks on JSF(actually Apache MyFaces) and thinking "there has to be a betterway"...!. Most of my work over the last 5 years has been JSP/ Struts etc...I'm a J2EE developer but coming firmly from the web side rather than aback-end developmer. I want to use a framework that has clean markupand is intuitive for people with web skills. (Anyone who has seen theghastly JSF tabular layouts and poor Tomahawk div implementation willunderstand!)I am about to start work on a webapp where one of the requirements isfor a DDA compliant interface. If I were to use Wicket, does it haveany reliance on _javascript_ or anything else that may jeopardise a DDAinterface?Thanks,AndrewUsing Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make yourjob easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket 2.0 Model change trap...
Nice one! It is so fundamental and has always seemed odd to me. That interface almost put me off using Wicket when I first checked it out. I know that is a very superficial attitude, but first impressions are important. I think I may have even hit the back button and then returned for another look only after thinking "well the rest of the framework sounds good".That makes me happier than it probably should.On 16 Jun 2006, at 12:53, Igor Vaynberg wrote:well, mark stumbled on some major work-in-progress. johan and i are still trying out our new idea to see if it will work. looks like it will though :)just to quickly summarize some stuff for anyone interested IModel.setObject(Component, Object) - IModel.setObject(Object)IModel.getObject(Component) - IModel.getObject()i know this is what everyone has been crying for and we listened. it took so long because it took some very innovating thinking to make it work == we are still confirming if the idea actually does work :) now for models that /do/ want to know what component they are attached to there are a couple of options. either pass the component into the constructor orthere are a couple of points where models can wrap themselves: a) models can wrap themselves any time they are assigned to a component by implementsIAssignmentAware { IWrapModel wrapOnAssignment(Component); }b) models that are inherited implement IInheritableModel (used to be ICompoundModel) and now also have IWrapModel wrapOnInheritance(Component) just a preview of things to come-IgorOn 6/16/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Maybe we - core devs - should email about the major changes we are doing in svn/ Wicket 2.0. It's all still very alpha though at thisstage.Also, we could /consider/ putting those methods back in with final(so your code will break) and a deprecation message? Or should we just settle for search (/replace) facilities being good enough forthe job and list what needs to be changed.And of course, once Johan and Igor are done with the model changes,they will add a section to http://wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Migrate-2.0EelcoOn Jun 16, 2006, at 4:16 AM, Mark Derricutt wrote: Just a heads up for anyone playing with HEAD/Wicket 2.0, one sneaky little trap I just found is that the Model class has changed its method signature from: public Object getObject(Component component) to public Object getObject(); Anywhere I was extending Model this tripped up silently by -adding- my (now) overloaded getObject() method. On the one or two instances where I was using AbstractReadOnlyModel (which doesn't provide a standard getObject() method) this signature change was trippedup and lead to finding this breakage. Just a heads up for anyone else dipping there toes -- i like my video games - mamma said they are gonna melt my brains i like my video games - i don't care what daddy said; they're my reality - henning pauly ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user___ Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___
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Re: [Wicket-user] Plan to develop a portal
Igor, sorry to turn this into a Spring QA! I understand if you don't want to discuss Spring on this list but it is hard to get an unbiased opinion on theirs.I have only briefly looked at Springs IoC and was put off by the amount of configuration XML I would have to write. I use Picocontainer which is very simple to configure in Java alone because it makes lots of default assumptions about how to build an object without me having to specify.Do you have any insight about how easily Spring can be configured in comparison to Pico? I could see that the examples were almost exclusively using setter injection but I much prefer to use constructors.Does Spring automatically figure out an object's dependancies like Pico does? Or do you need to specify them e.g. "Call this constructor with these arguments". I like being able to let the container figure that out for me using a simple default rule - "Always use the largest satisfiable constructor unless I say otherwise". Also, how easy is it to set up containers that manage object life-cycle at different scopes?Thanks,John.On 14 Jun 2006, at 18:23, Igor Vaynberg wrote:not to mention the decorator pattern is used a lot in spring and for that you also need interfaces. -IgorOn 6/14/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/14/06, Vincent Jenks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I avoid it because it appears to force you into thinking in anIoC way and I don't like the idea of configuring my classes w/ XML andusing interfaces for *everything* - sometimes that's just more complex than the problem at hand.this is a common misconception, you do not need to use interfaces for everything. spring handles beans not backed by interface via cglib when they need to be proxied for aop/transactions. a good portion of things you declare in the spring container are the things that are going to vary from deployment to deployment - and for those things you need to have an interface that is backed by multiple implementations, otherwise it wont work. likewise in spring code itself there are multiple implementations for most things - that is why the spring code has a lot of interfaces. -Igor ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Plan to develop a portal
Cheers Igor, that has really put things into perspective. The lack of decent documentation for Pico means that I have spent countless hours getting things to work the way I want. I suspect that I might switch to Spring when I get some time.John.On 15 Jun 2006, at 13:17, Igor Vaynberg wrote:On 6/15/06, Vincent Jenks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm kind of glad we're having this discussion here - it's not reallyoff-topic since I'm still half-wanting to be convinced that I coulduse Spring in this project :Dwhy would you want to be convinced? :) So, you're saying I don't *have* to wire classes together w/ XML inSpring but I could use GenericApplicationContext.registerBeanDefinition() programmaticallyinstead? What are the drawbacks (besides the obvious -externalization.)none, its the same thing as the xml config, in fact thats probably what the xml reader calls. I looked into Spring 2.0 yesterday shortly...it looks like they'vedone some work to be JPA (EJB 3 persistence) friendly...but I have to admit I really wasn't crazy about what I was seeing there - just"template" support for JPA.i dont know, i would use hibernate. it is evolving at a higher velocity then the spec and it has features i miss like the criteria api and custom types. the idea of running an application server just to get persistence sickens me. i havent checked out spring's jpa stuff either btw. -Igor___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
Just a quick question about how this will work in 2.0; is it possible to have a page that has a normal link with an onClick handler which is not stored in the session? In this case the link target would need to specify both the BookmarkablePage and the Listener to call and when the target is invoked it would need to instantiate the page and then call the handler onClick method. So the page would be created twice but probably rendered once. On 13 Jun 2006, at 03:07, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Anyway, there is a solution for it now... deferred session creation :). It's in 2.0, didn't make 1.2 unfortunately, as it would mean two API breaks, but it is scheduled for 1.3 whenever that comes out (I guess that depends on how badly people want it) and you can apply the patch I sent earlier for 1.2. Eelco On 6/12/06, Alexandru Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately this is not completely accurate information. I was writing about my experience and I wrote it down accurately. Timo, sorry if you found my comments as offending. There was no such intention. The session id is stripped from the link in the search result page. At least in the cases I had to deal with. That means that the user doesn't get a message like session expired. Probably, I am missunderstanding the session id is stripped from the link in the search result page part. I can see it there, and so the user request will go to the /tralala;jsessionid=value. For me stripped from the link means: the link will not contain the jsessionid part. But this is not true. It is there. Indeed the application may continue to work correctly as it may create a new session (so no error message will be displayed), but this is something that happens on the application side and not on the search engine side. hth, ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p. ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
On 13 Jun 2006, at 19:55, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Or maybe there will be more trade offs. Depends on how badly people want it, and who will work on it. In 2.0, Johan built in a form that posts back to a bookmarkable page, so you can even build pages with forms that are still stateless. Eelco OK, thanks I will have a look into that. I have not yet checked out 2.0 but would you just be able to clarify - when a stateless form is submitted would I still use an onClick handler on my form component? Or do I need to work with page parameters and move my form processing logic away from the actual form component? ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
Perfect. Wicket just keeps getting better and better. On 13 Jun 2006, at 20:59, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Really? I haven't looked at it, but just remember Johan told me processing would go via the pageparameters constructor. If it's via the onSubmit handler, that's all the nicer. Eelco On 6/13/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you would use the onclick. what happens when a stateless form is submitted is that a new page instance is created instead of looked up from session stored, and then processing continues as usual. -Igor On 6/13/06, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Jun 2006, at 19:55, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Or maybe there will be more trade offs. Depends on how badly people want it, and who will work on it. In 2.0, Johan built in a form that posts back to a bookmarkable page, so you can even build pages with forms that are still stateless. Eelco OK, thanks I will have a look into that. I have not yet checked out 2.0 but would you just be able to clarify - when a stateless form is submitted would I still use an onClick handler on my form component? Or do I need to work with page parameters and move my form processing logic away from the actual form component? ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
Brilliant! I'll definitely try out this patch. On 9 Jun 2006, at 12:21, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Sorry, we (comitters) couldn't come to an agreement. Backporting deferring the session creation can be done in 1.2 (in fact, it's working on my laptop now), but it means two API breaks: IBehavior get additional method isStateless, and ISessionStore has method getSessionId(Request, boolean) instead of getSessionId(Request). One of the comitters felt the API break voilates our promise of not doing API breaks for .x.x versions. I'm attaching this patch for those of you that really need it badly. Hopefully, this patch will make it in 1.3 if/when we are going to release that, and it is in 2.0 now. Eelco On 6/8/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it's in 2.0. We're having the - heated - discussion about backporting it so that it will be available in 1.2. Eelco On 6/8/06, Michael Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that was the point of 2.0--to break the API for a better product. =D Michael Day On Jun 8, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Eelco Hillenius wrote: I'm just about to check in changes that - finally - lets Wicket defer session creation until it is actually needed. The change is done for 2.0/ trunk, but we're currently voting on whether it is worth an API break. IBehavior has one additional method. If you haven't been reading the API docs not to implement that interface directly (and I wouldn't know any advantage to do that), it means you don't have a drop in. So before you do a lot of work, you might want to wait until we're done voting. Eelco On 6/8/06, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Jun 2006, at 09:52, Johan Compagner wrote: you could return your own versions of ISessionStore that pretty much doesn't do anything.. Dont know if that always works.. Thanks, I think I will try this approach and see what happens! I will be building a new site in the next month or two which will be a good experiment. If it all works out I will convert the rest of my main site from Webwork to Wicket. I want to wait for 2.0 to become a little more stable first and base it on that. John. ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user wicket-1.2.patch.txt wicket-examples-1.2.patch.txt ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
On 8 Jun 2006, at 05:10, Johan Compagner wrote: Or make your own buffered response object (WebApplication.newWebResponse()) and override in the response object the public CharSequence encodeURL(CharSequence url) but then you have to analize the url and know which one you want to encode and which not. Thanks. This sounds like a good place to start. A complete hack but if it works it will allow me to use Wicket for my entire site which would be worth it. All urls to a certain (mounted) section of my site will be stateless (they will function without state) so that should be fairly easy to determine. The problem is that we have to encode the bookmarkable pages. Even if those pages where completely stateless by itself. Because a bookmarkable link on that page could still require the session to get the logged in user or something. So for us we never can know that a bookmarkable page doesn't have to be encoded or not. What we could do is have a bot detection in wicket. Where we see that it is a bot and don't encode anything. If I stopped an http session from being created (instead of disabling it) in certain circumstances would that break wicket? ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
On 8 Jun 2006, at 01:43, Timo Stamm wrote: Are you sure this issue is that important? In my experience, Google does index pages with a session id parameter in the URL. The session id is stripped in the search result URL, so I don't see any problems. See the quotes in my previous post from Matt Cutts (Google engineer) and GoogleGuy who have both warned that if you want maximum coverage by Google then avoid session ids. Also, see the eamples I gave of sites that did not have their session ids stripped from the Google index. I do not know how much of a difference this will make but it is not an experiment I am able to make. It makes sense in a way though - pages in a session can be different for every user depending on how the user gets there. Even if there is any penalty, it is probably much more important to have good content. My site has a lot of good content that needs to be well indexed and I depend on search engine traffic for my income so yes this is important. I think that this business model is a common one. ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
On 8 Jun 2006, at 09:52, Johan Compagner wrote: you could return your own versions of ISessionStore that pretty much doesn't do anything.. Dont know if that always works.. Thanks, I think I will try this approach and see what happens! I will be building a new site in the next month or two which will be a good experiment. If it all works out I will convert the rest of my main site from Webwork to Wicket. I want to wait for 2.0 to become a little more stable first and base it on that. John. ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
On 8 Jun 2006, at 18:17, Eelco Hillenius wrote: I'm just about to check in changes that - finally - lets Wicket defer session creation until it is actually needed. The change is done for 2.0/ trunk, but we're currently voting on whether it is worth an API break. IBehavior has one additional method. If you haven't been reading the API docs not to implement that interface directly (and I wouldn't know any advantage to do that), it means you don't have a drop in. So before you do a lot of work, you might want to wait until we're done voting. Eelco Thanks Eelco, I will wait for things to settle down a bit I think. ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Session ids and search engine bots
On 7 Jun 2006, at 22:15, Igor Vaynberg wrote:Because wicket components are stateful that state needs to live somewhere. So far it can only live in session for wicket 1.2 or on client in wicket 2.0. Thanks for the update. I look forward to using this new facility.Maybe in 2.0 what we do is check for the bot and then switch from server to client state. But even then the problem is that urls are not stable, they are still session relative.All my pages which should be indexed by bots require no "conversation" state to be storedand would all be bookmarkable. Would it be possible to have common pages (or page components) stored in the application scope instead? They could then have their rendered content cached too.The workaround is simple but is a pain to implement. Basically you have to use only bookmarkable pages and bookmarkable links for the pages you want to be indexed. This means you are not using wicket's session handling and intstead yourself encoding state into the url just like you would with webwork. In 2.0 we have stateless forms so you can also perform POSTs. However even if you do this wicket will still create a session upon first request. This may or may not be resolved in the 2.0 frame. It would be really great if it could be solved. I remember Jonathon Locke talking about Wicket 1.0 on TSS and saying "Client side state, including zero-state will be available in 1.1." That statement was one of the reasons I chose to start developing in wicket. Now I find I have to maintain two separate frameworks for different parts of my site.jsessionid is a well known variable and im sure googlebot is smart enough to know what it is, if not - well then you cannot use wicket if you want your site to be crawled by google. Now isnt there a file that you can serve to the google bot to tell it how to crawl your site? Which urls to hit, etc? If this is true then you can create a bookmarkable "gateway" page to the rest of your application. The sitemap is used to supplement the normal crawl mainly for pages that cannot be reached by crawling. I would like both methods to crawl the maximum number of pages. I also want other bots to crawl my pages - not just Google.Currently, I am considering either apache url rewriting to remove all session ids from non-conversational pages or hacking wicket to disable url encoding for all pages that do not absolutely require a session. Any comments on these approaches? Is there any thing currently in wicket that would help me selectively disable url encoding?Thanks,John.___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] RequestCycleProcessor / Transactions again
You can either implement your transaction handling in your business
objects that are simply called from wicket or if you really want
transactional code in your pages you can subclass WebRequestCycle and
override the methods:
onRuntimeException() - rollback transaction
onEndRequest() - commit transaction if necessary
This would look something like this in your Application class:
protected IRequestCycleFactory getDefaultRequestCycleFactory()
{
return new IRequestCycleFactory()
{
public RequestCycle newRequestCycle(Session session, Request
request, Response response)
{
return new WebRequestCycle((WebSession) session, (WebRequest)
request, (WebResponse) response)
{
...
}
}
}
John.
On 11 May 2006, at 08:47, Ralf Ebert wrote:
Hi,
I'm using a RequestCycleProcessor to provide a threadlocal-based
transaction to my application. I use something like:
protected IRequestCycleProcessor newRequestCycleProcessor() {
return new DefaultWebRequestCycleProcessor() {
public void respond(RequestCycle requestCycle) {
System.out.println(Respond =);
//prepare tx
super.respond(requestCycle);
//close tx
System.out.println(Respond =);
}
};
}
With a page with form action, I get something like this:
onSubmit =
onSubmit =
Respond =
Respond =
This is not what I intended to do, because I need to provide one
transaction around every request to a WebPage (the only exception are
resources like images or css). So the request cycle processor doesn't
seem to be right. Servlet filter is too complicated as well, because I
want wicket exception handling and wraping requests to WebPages
only... Anything I can do about this?
Regards,
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[Wicket-user] Re: The other side of Wicket ...
Ashley Aitken wrote: So the pages are only serialised when the session is serialised for replication. I am not sure how Wicket (or if it is even within Wicket's scope) handles replication/clustering, but if one were using sticking sessions (sessions mapped to the same server in the cluster) then I guess one wouldn't need to serialise the session or pages at all. Does that sound right? Pages are also serialized when a new browser window is opened - the current page is cloned (via serialization) and placed in a new PageMap. This would occur, for example, if the user clicks on a link to your site in an email which usually opens the page in a new window. Also when a your page creates a pop-up window explicitly or the user opens a link in a new tab. I don't fully understand why wicket needs to clone the page rather than just moving the page into the new page map? John --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Re: The other side of Wicket ...
Johan Compagner wrote: Yes that is it. The page that you are showing now in a different window can also be displayed in another window. So we can't move it because it also have to exist with its different versions in the pagemap it came from. I thought that whenever I click on a link, a new page object is created? If the link opens in a new window then why would the page need to exist in the old page map at all? It was never shown in that window. So I can understand the use case, can you give me an example where the same page is displayed in two windows? --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Re: The other side of Wicket ...
John Patterson wrote: I thought that whenever I click on a link, a new page object is created? If the link opens in a new window then why would the page need to exist in the old page map at all? It was never shown in that window. So I can understand the use case, can you give me an example where the same page is displayed in two windows? Now I can think of a use case! In IE when the user presses ctrl-N a new window is created that contains the same page as the old window. It has been so long since I have used IE that I didn't think of this case. In Firefox and Safari I think that I would have to paste the old URL into the new window. But then the new-window-detection code would not work (as the history is not 0) would it? --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Re: The other side of Wicket ...
Johan Compagner wrote: there are other examples What if a new link doesn't make a new page? But just sets a new modelobject? Good example! It seems to me that the most common case would be simply creating a new page in a new window. In this case I can't see why it is necessary to clone the page. Could wicket some how detect if a page has actually been used (rendered) and only clone it then? --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Re: Redirect to bookmarkable page
John Patterson wrote: Do you mean the RedirectPage in the library application? If so, can you explain why such a page is needed to logout? I thought that Session.invalidate() waits until after the request is finished anyway? Regarding the RedirectPage being used in the sample wicket-library module to logout - can someone explain why (or if) this approach is necessary? Thanks, John. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Redirect to bookmarkable page
Hi, I would like users to be able to bookmark my login page with a nice link. I have mounted the page and tested that this link does indeed take you to my LoginPage. However, when users are redirected to this page by redirectToInterceptPage the page url is not the bookmarkable one (/member/login) but /member?wicket:interface=:0:: What can I do to make Wicket use the bookmarkable url when it redirects users to the login page? Thanks, John. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Redirect to bookmarkable page
Do you mean the RedirectPage in the library application? If so, can you explain why such a page is needed to logout? I thought that Session.invalidate() waits until after the request is finished anyway?On 3 May 2006, at 16:04, Johan Compagner wrote:yeah that could work. But that is really ugly.johanOn 5/3/06, Timo Stamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan Compagner schrieb: that is currently not possibleWhat about using the RedirectPage? (I think it's ugly, but it should work)Timo we don't have a PageMap.redirectToInterceptPage(final Class pageClass) only a Page can you add a feature request for this? johan On 5/3/06, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like users to be able to bookmark my login page with a nice link. I have mounted the page and tested that this link does indeed take you to my LoginPage. However, when users are redirected to this page by redirectToInterceptPage the page url is not the bookmarkable one (/member/login) but /member?wicket:interface=:0:: What can I do to make Wicket use the bookmarkable url when it redirects users to the login page? Thanks, John. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user--- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Redirect to bookmarkable page
Done.On 3 May 2006, at 15:39, Johan Compagner wrote:that is currently not possiblewe don't have a PageMap.redirectToInterceptPage(final Class pageClass)only a Pagecan you add a feature request for this?johan On 5/3/06, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I would like users to be able to bookmark my login page with a nicelink. I have mounted the page and tested that this link does indeed takeyou to my LoginPage. However, when users are redirected to this page by redirectToInterceptPage the page url is not the bookmarkable one(/member/login) but /member?wicket:interface=:0::What can I do to make Wicket use the bookmarkable url when it redirectsusers to the login page? Thanks,John.---Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Adding Feedback messages
Hi,
I have added a FeedbackMessages instance to my session class so that I can add
messages that will be displayed on the next page shown to the user. After
being displayed they will be cleared.
It looks to me as if the I should be able to override the
newFeedbackMessageModel() method to return an instance that combines my
session messages with any page specific messages.
FeedbackPanel feedback = new FeedbackPanel(feedback)
{
@Override
protected FeedbackMessagesModel
newFeedbackMessagesModel()
{
return new FeedbackMessagesModel()
{
protected List processMessages(final
List messages)
{
return messages;
}
};
}
};
However the FeedbackMessagesModel is final.
The comment for processMessages() is:
/**
* Override this method to post process to the FeedbackMessage list.
*
* @param messages
*List of sorted and filtered FeedbackMessages for further
*processing
* @return The processed FeedbackMessage list
*/
John
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[Wicket-user] HTTPS switching
Hi, Is there a standard way to handle switching between http and https? Thanks, John. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Switching to https
OK Thanks. It would get a bit messy to check this for every link ie links on secure pages going back to http also. I can set up redirections in Apache but this requires two requests eg the first http request returns a redirect to the https listener and it is also non portable. Unfortunately the transport-guarantee CONFIDENTIAL in web.xml only handles moving you from http to https. It would be great if PageLink had some kind of framework like the AuthorisationStrategy so it could tell which Page classes needed to be confidential (or not) and automatically generated the full URLs. Is there any work planned on this already? On Wednesday 22 Mar 2006 04:38, Johan Compagner wrote: the only thing i can think of right now is use the ExternalLink to specify the full url where you want to move to johan On 3/21/06, John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a standard way to handle switching between http and https? Thanks, John. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Switching to https
On Wednesday 22 Mar 2006 08:29, Juergen Donnerstag wrote: I think the last time we discussed that topic the conclusion was that no immediate action is required as most applications which require https tend to have only a very limited number of http pages. This doesn't really sound right to me. Any application that requires users to be logged in to perform actions must use https on all of the pages involved so that their session cannot be hijacked. For example, my application has many 'member' pages where users can write reviews, update their profile etc. Surely this is a pretty common scenario? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Switching to https
On Wednesday 22 Mar 2006 08:44, Martijn Dashorst wrote: There is no work planned on such a thing, but you are welcome to provide an implementation :-) Cool. Yes I would love to... I am about to go on Safari in Venezeula for three weeks! I recall someone saying a number of months ago that they were about to check in some related stuff. If nothing has changed when I get back I would certainly be keen to give it a shot. John. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Switching to https
Hi, Is there a standard way to handle switching between http and https? Thanks, John. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] cannot checkout wicket-struff from cvs at sourceforge
Sourceforge anonymous cvs access is hopeless. You will need to try during off peak hours or retry many times until you can get a connection. On Wednesday 01 Mar 2006 08:30, Nili Adoram wrote: Hi, I tried to checkout wicket-stuff from cvs at sourceforge according to the instructions at http://wicket-stuff.sourceforge.net/cvs-usage.html: I tried: cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/wicket-stuff login I pressed Enter when asked for password and the reply was: cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) Is CVS server down or my command is wrong? thanks Nili --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] HttpSession access
Hi, I am using a wicket 1.2 version from cvs from about 2 wekks ago. There seems to be no way to access the HttpSession. Is this still true? John. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] HttpSession access
On Wednesday 01 Mar 2006 13:51, Juergen Donnerstag wrote: What do you need it for? I am migrating my web application from WebWork to Wicket. All new functionality is written in Wicket but I need to share some objects with the old code such as the currently logged in user. This is stored in the http session. Using the HttpSessionStore attributes that I set are prefixed. I guess I could have changed my old code to use the wicket prefix. John. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] VOTE
1. Give me the constructor change and the Java 5 functionality in one pass (Wicket 2.0) In the hope that we will have both sooner. On Thursday 16 Feb 2006 21:33, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Hi all, This is a non-binding (the developers ultimately decide) call votes concerning whether we should fold the upcomming constructor changes with our move to Java 5 or not. See for a discussion of those changes other threads, please use this thread for voting only. 1. Give me the constructor change and the Java 5 functionality in one pass (Wicket 2.0) 2. Do the constructor change in a seperate release (Wicket 1.3) and put Java 5 in the next (Wicket 2.0) 3. I don't want either one and I want to stay on Wicket 1.2. This last option has no real effect except that you explicitly say that you prefer a long lasting support on 1.2 over new features. Also, take into consideration that the less versions we have to maintain seperately, the quicker we probably can implement them. Your votes please? Btw, it is still our plan to be up-to-date with Wicket In Action. Eelco --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Post 1.2 roadmap
On Tuesday 14 Feb 2006 11:43, Eelco Hillenius wrote: move. I am always in favor of clarity and breaking early in these matters. I would certainly rather see wicket become a better framework than be held back by backwards compatibility. Those who are not willing to refactor their ui code can simply keep using wicket 1.2. It is a good product now and always will be! --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: Pethate - long urls
On Friday 10 Feb 2006 01:04, Gili wrote: For example, if you have a multi-page image gallery, specifying page=0 would be optional, since it is the default page that gets viewed unless you specify otherwise. Again, generally all parameters passed to a page are passed for a reason - they alter the page content. Not if you use HTTP redirect. You can have multiple pages with identical content if all duplicates redirect to the canonical URL. From Google's point of view, it only sees one URL (the canonical one) and it disregards any pages which redirect. You have missed the point. I was not talking about pages with identical content. If you read my post carefully you will see that I talk about pages that are significantly similar but NOT identical. Such pages MUST have different URLs but perhaps 90% of the content may be the same. Here is an example: /showRecord/id/123/userName/Gili /showRecord/id/123/userName/John Every parameter is used to change the displayed page. These pages would show mostly the same content but would only differ in the user name displayed. Google would see these as duplicate pages but they *cannot* have the same URL. If one used the form: /showRecord?id=123userName=John Or even better: /showRecord/id/123?userName=John Then Google will recognise that the page is dynamic and will not penalise your site. The major search engines no longer have a problem indexing such pages. I now use this second hybrid form and traffic has returned to normal. From reading SEO news groups I know that others have had the same problem with duplicate content penalties after Google's Jagger update. Hope this helps clarify the problem with passing parameters in the path. John --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Re: To SSL And Back
Nick Heudecker nheudecker at gmail.com writes: I'm working on adding the functionality to Wicket. Should be a few more days. How did this work go? Is there a recommended way to enforce pages to use https? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] Re: Pethate - long urls
Igor Vaynberg igor.vaynberg at gmail.com writes: its pretty easy to create an encoder that will process regular url formatted parameters. maybe that is a better default eventhough it is not as crawler friendly as the other one. you can also change your own implementation to the default by calling applicationsettings.setpageparametersencoder. Just thought I would share my recent experience using urls of the form: /action/param_name1/param_value1/param_name2/param_value2 I used this form in a website of mine to great success UNTIL november when Google started penalising any site that contains duplicate content. If the parameters passed to the page do not result in a significantly different resulting page then google will assume that you have duplicate pages on your site and will penalise you. In November and December my site traffic dropped to 25% almost overnight after their Jagger update. After changing my URL's back to the more conventional form: /action?param_name1=param_value2param_name2=param_value2 My traffic has returned to normal. Lesson learned: don't assume you are smarter than Google to gain more traffic. Stick to statndard URL schemes. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: Pethate - long urls
On Thursday 09 Feb 2006 11:33, Gili wrote: I don't think this necessary has anything to do with your URL scheme. It has to do with having different URLs returning the same (or very similar) content. As you have written immediately below, the problem IS due to the URL scheme. People need to be aware that using such a scheme can result in a penalty from Google if ANY one of the parameters does not alter the page significantly. The difference is that under niceurl, all URLs are considered individual pages whereas under the normal scheme it might be considered as a single page with multiple parameters. I believe Google has problems indexing the matter whereas if you use the former and different parameters yield the same page you will end up penalized. Google and other major search engines no longer have problems indexing dynamic pages (urls with a ?) I would suggest you simply ensure that different parameters always result in different content Unrealistic. If any parameter does not alter the page significantly your site will be penalised. and use HTTP redirects in case different parameters yield the same content. Google will only penalize you if you don't HTTP redirect and pretend these are different pages. If the redirect relies on a user session existing then Google will not even index the content page (Google does not support cookies and avoids any url with a session id). If it doesn't rely on a session then all parameters must also be present in the redirected page URL which brings us back to the original problem. Generally, steer clear of such a format if you want traffic from Google UNLESS every parameter results in a significantly different page. I have combined the 2 different schemes so that the main parameters are included in the URL path and additional ones are in the query string. /action/main_param_name/main_param_value?parm_name2=param_value2 This works well. John --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: Pethate - long urls
On Thursday 09 Feb 2006 15:15, Gili wrote: You misunderstood. I wasn't saying you should be removing parameters. I was suggesting you canonicalize them. That is, if a user hits: foo.html?a=1b=2c=3 but this is identical to foo.html?a=1 (because b=2 and c=3 are default values) than you need to issue a HTTP redirect from foo.html?a=1 to foo.html?a=1b=2c=3. I really don't understand what you are getting at here? When would you ever want to pass default values to a page? I cannot see this situation ever arising. Parameters are generally passed to the page for a reason ie they affect what is displayed. Google's guidelines specifically says: Allow search bots to crawl your sites without session IDs or arguments that track their path through the site. These techniques are useful for tracking individual user behavior, but the access pattern of bots is entirely different. Using these techniques may result in incomplete indexing of your site, as bots may not be able to eliminate URLs that look different but actually point to the same page. which implies you should not rely upon Sessions for crawler indexing (in fact, I have read that most crawlers will outright reject any URLs that make use of sessions). Isn't that what I just wrote? I'm saying that you should focus on ensuring all BookmarkablePages expose canonicalized paths and redirect pages with equivilent parameter values to those canonicalized paths. That is exactly what does NOT happen when you pass parameters in the URL path. Google assumes that they are different pages with similar (note: not identical) content and punishes your ass. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
[Wicket-user] After redirection doRender() still called
Hi Wicketeers, I have a page which can only be viewed if the user is logged in. If the user is not logged in then checkAccess() redirects to a sign in page and returns false. I moved my page building code to the onBeginRequest() method so that it is only called when it is really needed (ie not when the page cannot be viewed). However, in my original page doRender() is still called and the html is parsed etc. This involves looking up data from the database which is never shown. Is there any way to build a page that will only be built if it is actually going to be displayed? Thanks, John. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Hibernate transactions
On Tuesday 20 Dec 2005 04:53, Johan Compagner wrote: it was there really at the beginning. But then developers complained that it was really difficult to have youre own request cycle because you needed to first make youre own SessionFactory then youre own Session then youre own RequestCycle factory and then last the RequestCycle itself. that where 4 classes and 5 methods just to do one thing (implement one method) Sounds like a factory object would help here. It could kind of 'denormalise' the object hierarchy - flatten it out - to make things easier to override while removing the clutter from the Application. That would allow me to easily integrate Picocontainer into the framework by creating a dynamic Proxy. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Hibernate transactions
On Saturday 17 Dec 2005 17:42, Igor Vaynberg wrote: imho, your transactions should only be concerned with what happens in event handlers (onclick/onsubmit) and not through the enitire request cycle Are you suggesting putting transaction handling in each wicket event handler? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Hibernate transactions
On Saturday 17 Dec 2005 18:31, Igor Vaynberg wrote: of course i dont have txn management code in every event handler, i use spring. my service methods are demarkated with their txn attributes and spring handles it all for me transparently via aop. my wicket code knows nothing about transactions or hibernate or any perstence code, it only knows about service interfaces. Ahh yes this does sound like a better approach. I have never used Spring before. a couple of questions: Can you call multiple operations on your service interfaces in the same transaction? Or is this not done? Can you leave the hibernate session open for the view to be rendered? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Hibernate transactions
On Saturday 17 Dec 2005 23:10, John Patterson wrote: I have checked it out and it looks to me like the method HibernateApplication.onRuntimeException() is never used so transactions will never be rolled back. Despite this missing functionality it is still much more complicated than using a try-catch Sorry, I forgot that this example was built against an older version of wicket. That method would have been called before. It doesn't seem to be called anymore however - at least 2 more classes are needed. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Hibernate transactions
On Friday 16 Dec 2005 05:40, Maurice Marrink wrote: We use the dao pattern. any exceptions are handled by the different dao's. This would require duplicating error and transaction handling in every method. It also creates a new transaction for every data operation which does not allow for making multiple operations atomic. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Hibernate transactions
On Friday 16 Dec 2005 02:47, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
There is in fact an on error handler Application.onRuntimeException(). its
called whenever there is a runtime exception. instead of trying to do
try/catch in your filter you can use a request variable to indicate
success/failure. set it to success, and in the error handler set it to
failure.
Thanks, this currently looks like the best place to do it but it is very
untidy requiring coordination between more than one object using a request
variable etc.
It also means that I must trust the wicket code to always call
Application.onRuntimeException(). It would be much simpler if I could
override a single method to wrap it in a try-catch-finally block.
for example, if Request cycle had a non-final method:
protected void doRequest() throws RuntimeException
{
// Attach thread local resources for request
threadAttach();
// Response is beginning
internalOnBeginRequest();
onBeginRequest();
// If request is parsed successfully
if (parseRequest())
{
// respond with a page
respond();
}
}
I would then feel much better being able to override this method and wrap it
in my try-catch-finally block. Good and safe.
I use this approach whenever i know my requirements will never
exceed the single-transaction-per-request limitation.
Do you often need more than one transaction per request?
John
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[Wicket-user] Wiki problem
Hi, There is a problem on the Wiki where all images appear as some kind of identifier. John. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Wiki problem
On Wednesday 07 Dec 2005 11:17, Martijn Dashorst wrote: It's not the images, but the source code examples... An even greater disaster. Gwynn, are you listening? They are still available in Google's cache: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:j8nGc9VwnnEJ:www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Newuserguide+hl=en --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
