Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Honestly I think the wicket presentation could be better when it comes about 1.) true OOP, and 2.) when it comes about tools integration support. 1.) Wicket brings back into it's right the true OOP approaches in the serverside java programming. I think this is almost all the time overlooked even by wicket users.( I am working at this time in three projects now: one wicket, one struts, one Spring MVC. After developing with wicket where all looks so natural plain java programming, I have difficulties even to ADAPT my thinking back to the request/response paradigm you find in action frameworks, being given that I've developed MVC for the last 3 years :-)) ). No jsp tags for components, no jsp fragments or includes, no decorators etc. That is all your code is in the same place, all your code is in java and you can design/componentize AS YOU WANT. Only your skills, not the technology you use, will limit the quality of your code and your software product. 2.) On top of this comes the tools support needed. You need a good java IDE and a good web development IDE (html/js/css) both of which are already a commonality in all java IDEs. Back to *Simple* is a Good THING TM. With Wicket, what I see as big (well ... ) problems are: 1.) The session use, not from the size perspective but from the clustering perspective (I think some users will be really reluctant to the ideea that the session is overused in their opppinion. The truth is that *stateless* really helps with scalability BUT is all the time scalability a requirement ? It may be having in mind we're talking about web apps ) 2.) I think some AOP kind of approach could be really usefull, for example to enable a complex authentication/authorization implementation, maybe something similar to what servlet filters are to the servlet environment (this MVC thing really goes into your blood ultimately as you can see :-)) ) Martijn Dashorst wrote: If you were able to go to JavaOne, and was deciding which framework to use, and one of the presentations is about Wicket, what kind of information do you want to hear so you would give it a try? Or even better, what kind of info are you looking for in the program so you attend such a session? I'm in the process to submit a proposal to the JavaOne committee, and I could use this information to streamline the proposal... Deadline is today. Thanks, Martijn -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Yes, with the proxy based solution it is not necessary (transient
fields). I was saying that with the AOP implementation it is
necessary, since there is no proxy working. What the AOP and proxy
solutions have in common is the code to inject the beans.
2005/12/2, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
the way the new integration works you do not need to have your bean holding
fields transient, thats the whole point. we create a small /serializable/
proxy that contains just enough information to retrieve the bean from spring
context or somewhere else
(jndi/ejb3/servletcontext/wherever). so you can create this
proxy and treat it as a pojo you can create these manually or you can use
the injector to traverse your class and create these proxies for you for
annotated fields.
see the wiki page i mentioned earlier.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If phonebook is supposed to sample spring/hibernate usage with Wicket,
I think it is more natural the code being in
wicket-contrib-spring-examples, and remove the phonebook (although
many people must be using phonebook as reference by now...). It is a
nice pattern to have wicket-contrib-xxx and
wicket-contrib-xxx-examples.
I have asked about wicket-contrib-spring-examples because I have an
AOP implementation for wicket-contrib-spring, so I could use the same
example.
Surely not everyone would be interested in AOP, but maybe it would be
nice to have there. Besides the aspect itself, there are also issues
with configuring the aspect with spring's context and using the jar as
an aspect library. The pointcut it is very simple
@Before(get(@SpringBean * *))
public void matchAnnotatedFields(JoinPoint thisJoinPoint) {
...
}
This is read as: when there is a reference for an annotated field,
fires this method, which sets the field value (if not null) (any
feedback?). I am using custom code for setting the bean, but it could
be easily refactored to use what already was written by Igor.
There is also a declare error, which is raised when the field it is
not transient:
@DeclareError(get(@wicket.contrib.spring.aspectj.SpringBean
!transient * *))
public static final String MUST_BE_TRANSIENT = SpringBean annotated
+ field must be transient.;
2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No, the phonebook example is small. currently it covers the first
approach
discussed on that wiki page. I can convert it to the second approach
since
that is something people might like more, but i dont see a way or need
to do
both in that app. the wiki article pretty much walks you through setting
it
up anyways.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support
things?
Eelco
On 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book
example,
so might as well make it the primary example.
Martijn
On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in
favor
of
wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any
developers
reading with us, what do you think?
also see
http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring
for
explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Igor,
I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a
example
using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if
wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice.
2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring -
to
have a
final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so
there it
is.
check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for
improvements
are
always welcome.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent
Spring
support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper
build for
it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that
most
people
are happy with.
I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the
spring
integration
problem, I've
seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own
solution in
my
app,
but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best
solution,
integrate it into
the core, and stick to it from now on.
And BIG thanks for all the good work !
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
My opinions are similar to Christian : - How much faster or easier it would be to use wicket - Spring/Hibernate Integration (almost on everybody's list) - Testability - Performance comparisonI guess you might as well get ready for some complaints : - Lack of good and thorough documentation - Not so good Spring integration - Heavy session usage (Specially from those MVC critics) just my 2 centsIman
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Thanks, I guess you might as well get ready for some complaints : - Not so good Spring integration Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. - Heavy session usage (Specially from those MVC critics) Yeah, we know people will use that. As you can read in other mails/ comments I do not always agree that's a bad thing. If you do you calculations properly, it's really a bunch of pros and cons instead of just a simplified 'using the session is bad'. Furthermore, we abstracted the session, so it is ready for alternative strategies too. Anyway, it's also what I am working on for 1.2. I am seriously out of time - whish I had more time for the refactorings - but one of my ultimate aims is to make zero-server state apps with Wicket possible too. Don't know whether I'll succeed in that, but you'll surely end up with a lot of hooks to optimize session usuage. Eelco --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Springsupport now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build forit made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with.I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Honestly, I don't think there ever was a Spring Integration problem. I think people were just looking for a cookie-cutter approach to using Spring within Wicket. It's actually quite easy to do without using any of the Spring stuff that Igor and others wrote, but it's always a good thing to have a common approach that everyone can follow. As far as session usage, there was an article I read a while ago that actually talked about how developers are not using the session enough. Basically, since a lot of servers have oodles of RAM and disk space, the article's point was that there's no reason not to use the resources available in order to increase speed (not having to go to DB all the time, for example). Obviously, there are a lot of other factors that are involved in session usage, such as number of simultaneous users, but the article certainly made sense. As Eelco pointed out, there are definitely pros and cons, but honestly I don't think Wicket's usage of the session should push anyone away from using it. --AndrewOn 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Springsupport now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build forit made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with.I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Oh and one more thing. Everyone keeps bringing up Spring/Hibernate integration. I'm not sure I understand why this is. If you are building your app, IMHO, properly, Wicket should know absolutely nothing about the use of Hibernate. All Hibernate integration should occur within Spring, and Wicket should communicate directly with your services or DAOs using Spring (if you're using Spring). --AndrewOn 12/1/05, Andrew Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I don't think there ever was a Spring Integration problem. I think people were just looking for a cookie-cutter approach to using Spring within Wicket. It's actually quite easy to do without using any of the Spring stuff that Igor and others wrote, but it's always a good thing to have a common approach that everyone can follow. As far as session usage, there was an article I read a while ago that actually talked about how developers are not using the session enough. Basically, since a lot of servers have oodles of RAM and disk space, the article's point was that there's no reason not to use the resources available in order to increase speed (not having to go to DB all the time, for example). Obviously, there are a lot of other factors that are involved in session usage, such as number of simultaneous users, but the article certainly made sense. As Eelco pointed out, there are definitely pros and cons, but honestly I don't think Wicket's usage of the session should push anyone away from using it. --AndrewOn 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Springsupport now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build forit made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with.I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think?also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project.-IgorOn 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor,I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a exampleusing SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but ifwicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice.2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -IgorOn 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Springsupport now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build forit made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with.I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support things? Eelco On 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Phone book does not make use of wicket-contrib-spring. 2005/12/1, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support things? Eelco On 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Indeed. Don't we want some example on your annotation stuff Igor? Eelco On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone book does not make use of wicket-contrib-spring. 2005/12/1, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support things? Eelco On 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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i think that many MVC developers should really check there session what they store in itmost webapps i see do store a lot of information also in it and i think this is pretty common. On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinions are similar to Christian : - How much faster or easier it would be to use wicket - Spring/Hibernate Integration (almost on everybody's list) - Testability - Performance comparisonI guess you might as well get ready for some complaints : - Lack of good and thorough documentation - Not so good Spring integration - Heavy session usage (Specially from those MVC critics) just my 2 centsIman
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
Honestly, it wasnt just me, you and the others helped out a lot.-IgorOn 12/1/05, Christian Essl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:24:20 -0500, Andrew Berman
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Spring stuff that Igor and others wrote, but it's always a good thing to have a common approach that everyone can follow.Honestly, I think Igor did a good job: It is just easier and more natural
to write over and over again:new HibernateModel(obj,_dao);thannew HibernateModel(obj, new Model(){getObject(Component comp){ return ((MyApplication)Appliation.get()).getDAO();
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You are right, it doesnt use it directly. it reimplements the first approach discussed on the wiki page. if we decide to dump the spring-example project i can relink the phonebook to use contrib-spring.-Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone book does not make use of wicket-contrib-spring.2005/12/1, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support things? Eelco On 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. MartijnOn 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a exampleusing SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but ifwicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in my app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick___Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1--- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick___ Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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No, the phonebook example is small. currently it covers the first approach discussed on that wiki page. I can convert it to the second approach since that is something people might like more, but i dont see a way or need to do both in that app. the wiki article pretty much walks you through setting it up anyways. -IgorOn 12/1/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support things?EelcoOn 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor of wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also see http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring for explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -IgorOn 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there it is.check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -Igor On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integrationproblem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution in myapp, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick___ Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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If phonebook is supposed to sample spring/hibernate usage with Wicket,
I think it is more natural the code being in
wicket-contrib-spring-examples, and remove the phonebook (although
many people must be using phonebook as reference by now...). It is a
nice pattern to have wicket-contrib-xxx and
wicket-contrib-xxx-examples.
I have asked about wicket-contrib-spring-examples because I have an
AOP implementation for wicket-contrib-spring, so I could use the same
example.
Surely not everyone would be interested in AOP, but maybe it would be
nice to have there. Besides the aspect itself, there are also issues
with configuring the aspect with spring's context and using the jar as
an aspect library. The pointcut it is very simple
@Before(get(@SpringBean * *))
public void matchAnnotatedFields(JoinPoint thisJoinPoint) {
...
}
This is read as: when there is a reference for an annotated field,
fires this method, which sets the field value (if not null) (any
feedback?). I am using custom code for setting the bean, but it could
be easily refactored to use what already was written by Igor.
There is also a declare error, which is raised when the field it is
not transient:
@DeclareError(get(@wicket.contrib.spring.aspectj.SpringBean !transient * *))
public static final String MUST_BE_TRANSIENT = SpringBean annotated
+ field must be transient.;
2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No, the phonebook example is small. currently it covers the first approach
discussed on that wiki page. I can convert it to the second approach since
that is something people might like more, but i dont see a way or need to do
both in that app. the wiki article pretty much walks you through setting it
up anyways.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support
things?
Eelco
On 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example,
so might as well make it the primary example.
Martijn
On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor
of
wicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any
developers
reading with us, what do you think?
also see
http://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring
for
explanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Igor,
I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example
using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if
wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice.
2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to
have a
final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so
there it
is.
check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for
improvements
are
always welcome.
-Igor
On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent
Spring
support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper
build for
it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most
people
are happy with.
I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring
integration
problem, I've
seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own
solution in
my
app,
but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best
solution,
integrate it into
the core, and stick to it from now on.
And BIG thanks for all the good work !
Iman
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so how about upgrading phonebook to use contrib-spring and then making a java5 version of phonebook that uses the annotation feature. does that sound like a game plan?-Igor On 12/1/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. Don't we want some example on your annotation stuff Igor?EelcoOn 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone book does not make use of wicket-contrib-spring. 2005/12/1, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support things? EelcoOn 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example, so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor ofwicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any developers reading with us, what do you think? also seehttp://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring forexplanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice. 2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there itis. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for improvements are always welcome. -IgorOn 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the spring integration problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution inmy app, but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on. And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through logfiles for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!
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On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:24:20 -0500, Andrew Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Honestly, I don't think there ever was a Spring Integration problem. I
think people were just looking for a cookie-cutter approach to using
Spring
within Wicket. It's actually quite easy to do without using any of the
Spring stuff that Igor and others wrote, but it's always a good thing to
have a common approach that everyone can follow.
Honestly, I think Igor did a good job: It is just easier and more natural
to write over and over again:
new HibernateModel(obj,_dao);
than
new HibernateModel(obj, new Model(){
getObject(Component comp){
return ((MyApplication)Appliation.get()).getDAO();
}
});
and this is not restricted to HibernateDAOs but to any bean you do not
want to get serialized whtih your components.
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Not having looked (yet), is this spring support JDk5 only? (I think I saw mention of using annotations for injection)?On 12/2/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Springsupport now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most peopleare happy with.
Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
the way the new integration works you do not need to have your bean holding fields transient, thats the whole point. we create a small /serializable/ proxy that contains just enough information to retrieve the bean from spring context or somewhere else (jndi/ejb3/servletcontext/wherever). so you can create this proxy and treat it as a pojo you can create these manually or you can use the injector to traverse your class and create these proxies for you for annotated fields.
see the wiki page i mentioned earlier.-IgorOn 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:If phonebook is supposed to sample spring/hibernate usage with Wicket,
I think it is more natural the code being inwicket-contrib-spring-examples, and remove the phonebook (althoughmany people must be using phonebook as reference by now...). It is anice pattern to have wicket-contrib-xxx and
wicket-contrib-xxx-examples.I have asked about wicket-contrib-spring-examples because I have anAOP implementation for wicket-contrib-spring, so I could use the sameexample.Surely not everyone would be interested in AOP, but maybe it would be
nice to have there. Besides the aspect itself, there are also issueswith configuring the aspect with spring's context and using the jar asan aspect library. The pointcut it is very simple@Before(get(@SpringBean * *))
public void matchAnnotatedFields(JoinPoint thisJoinPoint) {...}This is read as: when there is a reference for an annotated field,fires this method, which sets the field value (if not null) (any
feedback?). I am using custom code for setting the bean, but it couldbe easily refactored to use what already was written by Igor.There is also a declare error, which is raised when the field it is
not transient:@DeclareError(get(@wicket.contrib.spring.aspectj.SpringBean !transient * *))public static final String MUST_BE_TRANSIENT = SpringBean annotated + field must be transient.;
2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, the phonebook example is small. currently it covers the first approach discussed on that wiki page. I can convert it to the second approach since
that is something people might like more, but i dont see a way or need to do both in that app. the wiki article pretty much walks you through setting it up anyways. -Igor
On 12/1/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. Does the phone book example covers all the basic Spring support
things? EelcoOn 12/1/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with it. I constantly send people to the phone book example,
so might as well make it the primary example. Martijn On 12/1/05, Igor Vaynberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am thinking of dumping the wicket-contrib-spring-examples in favor ofwicket-phonebook since it demonstrates spring integration. any
developersreading with us, what do you think? also seehttp://www.wicket-wiki.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Spring
forexplanation of the wicket-contrib-spring project. -Igor On 12/1/05, Eduardo Rocha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, I checked out wicket-contrib-spring and I could not find a example
using SpringWebPage. I think it is pretty easy to use, but if wicket-contrib-spring-examples was updated it would nice.
2005/12/1, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i guess that was the point of redoing wicket-contrib-spring - to
have a final solution that the wicket team is willing to support. so there itis. check out wicket-contrib-spring. of course suggestions for
improvementsare always welcome. -Igor
On 12/1/05, Iman RahmatiZadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent
Spring support now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most
people are happy with. I'm looking forward to see a real final solution to the springintegration
problem, I've seen most examples about it, and am currently using my own solution inmy app,
but just think its time for everybody to agree on the best solution, integrate it into the core, and stick to it from now on.
And BIG thanks for all the good work ! Iman
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Re: [Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
the default implementation of IFieldValueFactory (used by the proxy strategy) that is used to locate fields that hold spring references is jdk5 specific. but it is easy to create your own that stores this metadata somewhere else. wicket has a nice metadata system that can be used for this, or common-attributes. i believe Christian implemented the commons-attributes storage for the metadata and the source code for that is somewhere in this list. -IgorOn 12/1/05, Mark Derricutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not having looked (yet), is this spring support JDk5 only? (I think I saw mention of using annotations for injection)?On 12/2/05, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Igor and a couple of others build some pretty decent Springsupport now? It's all in HEAD, and there has to be a proper build for it made, but I think we now have Spring integration that most peopleare happy with.
[Wicket-user] JavaOne 2006 - Wicket presentation?
If you were able to go to JavaOne, and was deciding which framework to use, and one of the presentations is about Wicket, what kind of information do you want to hear so you would give it a try? Or even better, what kind of info are you looking for in the program so you attend such a session? I'm in the process to submit a proposal to the JavaOne committee, and I could use this information to streamline the proposal... Deadline is today. Thanks, Martijn -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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Just out of my head: - ease of development - basic CRUD app with Spring/Hibernate or EJB3 - how to test - AJAX support - in light of this comparison to Tapestry and JSF Hope you get more feedback, Christian On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:48:04 +0100, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were able to go to JavaOne, and was deciding which framework to use, and one of the presentations is about Wicket, what kind of information do you want to hear so you would give it a try? Or even better, what kind of info are you looking for in the program so you attend such a session? I'm in the process to submit a proposal to the JavaOne committee, and I could use this information to streamline the proposal... Deadline is today. Thanks, Martijn -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Christian Essl ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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I'd like to see a big picture overview of how it works and what's required from the development standpoint. And I'm actually talking about pictures and graphics. On 11/30/05, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were able to go to JavaOne, and was deciding which framework to use, and one of the presentations is about Wicket, what kind of information do you want to hear so you would give it a try? Or even better, what kind of info are you looking for in the program so you attend such a session? I'm in the process to submit a proposal to the JavaOne committee, and I could use this information to streamline the proposal... Deadline is today. Thanks, Martijn -- Living a wicket life... Martijn Dashorst - http://www.jroller.com/page/dashorst Wicket 1.1 is out: http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865opclick ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
