Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Does StackExchange have more monthly active users than Wikipedia?

2015-11-13 Thread Tilman Bayer
Joel Spolsky explained his comparison - which was already mentioned on
this list (Analytics-l) on September 17 - a bit more here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvEAuSHJOBU&t=2216
TLDL: it's indeed about the entire Stack Exchange network vs. the
English Wikipedia (i.e. not about the number from Nemo's query), and
they chose this metric for the closest possible comparison - but still
maintain that posting a question or answer is a larger unit of work
than the average WP edit.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Morgan  wrote:
> +research
>
> Fascinating. Thanks for sharing this, Nemo. And for setting those arrogant
> Stackers straight ;)
>
> For anyone else interested: Nemo was able to answer this question because
> StackExchange has a Quarry-like public query interface of their own. You
> should go play with it right now: http://data.stackexchange.com/
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> wrote:
>>
>> Some information at
>> https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/269334/how-many-active-users-contributors-does-stack-overflow-stack-exchange-have/
>>
>> TL;DR: not really, and definitely not StackOverflow alone (~14k). But
>> perhaps the whole StackExchange has more than the English Wikipedia alone.
>>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] abuse and online game communities

2015-11-13 Thread Danny Horn
Wow. That's really interesting, thanks for sharing.

I think beyond the specific measures that they used, just making the
decision from the administration to identify and fix harassment problems
probably made a big difference on its own. Nobody had ever mentioned to
that kid not to use the N word? Just clearly stating the principles is a
good idea.


On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Pine W  wrote:

> Very interesting article, thanks Toby. Forwarding this on.
>
> I particularly like this paragraph: "As a result of these governance
> systems changing online cultural norms, incidences of homophobia, sexism
> and racism in League of Legends have fallen to a combined 2 percent of all
> games. Verbal abuse has dropped by more than 40 percent, and 91.6 percent
> of negative players change their act and never commit another offense after
> just one reported penalty."
>
> Pine
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Toby Negrin 
> wrote:
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>> Although this is probably less research-y than usual posts to this list
>> but I thought the use of ML to analyze a community curated corpus of
>> positive and negative online behavior was interesting:
>>
>>
>> http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] abuse and online game communities

2015-11-13 Thread Pine W
Very interesting article, thanks Toby. Forwarding this on.

I particularly like this paragraph: "As a result of these governance
systems changing online cultural norms, incidences of homophobia, sexism
and racism in League of Legends have fallen to a combined 2 percent of all
games. Verbal abuse has dropped by more than 40 percent, and 91.6 percent
of negative players change their act and never commit another offense after
just one reported penalty."

Pine

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Toby Negrin  wrote:

> Although this is probably less research-y than usual posts to this list
> but I thought the use of ML to analyze a community curated corpus of
> positive and negative online behavior was interesting:
>
>
> http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/
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[Wiki-research-l] abuse and online game communities

2015-11-13 Thread Toby Negrin
Although this is probably less research-y than usual posts to this list but
I thought the use of ML to analyze a community curated corpus of positive
and negative online behavior was interesting:

http://recode.net/2015/07/07/doing-something-about-the-impossible-problem-of-abuse-in-online-games/

-Toby
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Does StackExchange have more monthly active users than Wikipedia?

2015-11-13 Thread Jonathan Morgan
+research

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing this, Nemo. And for setting those arrogant
Stackers straight ;)

For anyone else interested: Nemo was able to answer this question because
StackExchange has a Quarry -like public query
interface of their own. You should go play with it right now:
http://data.stackexchange.com/

Jonathan



On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) 
wrote:

> Some information at
> https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/269334/how-many-active-users-contributors-does-stack-overflow-stack-exchange-have/
>
> TL;DR: not really, and definitely not StackOverflow alone (~14k). But
> perhaps the whole StackExchange has more than the English Wikipedia alone.
>
> Nemo
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