Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

[WereSpielChequers]

Dear Jan,

It's a fascinating topic and one that interests me as well.

But you have to be careful with your assumptions, our data is almost always
based on user accounts, but we'd like to think we are looking at people.
Some of whom will have different accounts over time. Some of the
involvement will switch between projects - apparently half the founding
Wikidata community were previously active in the movement. Some will spend
periods of their volunteer time off wiki - many very active volunteers put
time in as Arbcom members, OTRS volunteers or chapter trustees.


Volunteers are very very different to staff or even subscribers, barely 16
years into the project we simply don't have the data to workout longterm
patterns of retention and reactivation, but the signs so far are that
Wikipedia is beginning to look like other volunteer organisations that
people have a multi decade relationship with.

A few years ago the WMF did a survey of former editors, partly to learn why
they'd left. One of the most common responses was "I haven't left yet".

WSC

On 20 March 2017 at 09:34, Jan Dittrich  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am looking for research on how editors transition through various levels
> of involvement in their time as editors. The questions I ask myself are:
>
> - How many people to come each month?
> - How many editors leave?
>
> …those are not too difficult to answer but…
>
> - How many people become more involved over time? E.g. How many each month
> come to a level where they are interested in handling many pages on the
> watchlist, learn the less obvious aspects of wiki culture etc.
>
> In my work as designer I am often involved in features for intermediate
> and/or very involved users and I’m wondering if there are any ballpark
> estimates of how many people learn these features each month.
>
> Jan
>
> --
> Jan Dittrich
> UX Design/ User Research
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0
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>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

[Oded Nov]

Hi Jan,

This paper may be useful in answering some of your questions:
O. Arazy, H. Lifshitz-Assaf, O. Nov, J. Daxenberger, M. Balestra, and C.
Cheshire. On the “how” and “why” of emergent role behaviors in Wikipedia
.
Proceedings of CSCW 2017: ACM Conference on Computer-Supported Cooperative
Work.

Oded


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Jan Dittrich 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am looking for research on how editors transition through various levels
> of involvement in their time as editors. The questions I ask myself are:
>
> - How many people to come each month?
> - How many editors leave?
>
> …those are not too difficult to answer but…
>
> - How many people become more involved over time? E.g. How many each month
> come to a level where they are interested in handling many pages on the
> watchlist, learn the less obvious aspects of wiki culture etc.
>
> In my work as designer I am often involved in features for intermediate
> and/or very involved users and I’m wondering if there are any ballpark
> estimates of how many people learn these features each month.
>
> Jan
>
> --
> Jan Dittrich
> UX Design/ User Research
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0
> http://wikimedia.de
>
> Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment.
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki-research-l Digest, Vol 139, Issue 18

[Xiangju Qin]

Hi Jan,

During my PhD, I did some research about how online uses evolve/develop
over time in online communities using topic modeling / clustering. Topic
modeling / mixture models are very powerful tools to learn the hidden
knowledge and structures underlying the data.

These two papers may be what you are looking for:

1. Xiangju Qin, Pádraig Cunningham, Michael Salter-Townshend. “Online
Trans-dimensional Von Mises-Fisher Mixture Models for User Profiles”.
Journal of Machine Learning Research, 17(200): 1-51, 2016.
   http://www.jmlr.org/papers/volume17/15-454/source/15-454.pdf

2. Xiangju Qin, Derek Greene, Pádraig Cunningham. “A Latent Space Analysis
of Editor Lifecycles in Wikipedia”. In: M. Atzmueller et al. (eds): MSM,
MUSE, SenseML 2014. LNAI 9546, pp. 46–69, 2016.
   http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-29009-6_3

A minus point of these two papers is that we didn't consider user activity
in a very specific/niched level that you just described. Yes, considering
user activity in these context would shape more insights about the
potential challenges underlying Wikipedia platform (e.g. lost of different
types of editors, changes in edits to different Wiki pages over time)

Hope this helpful.

Best, Xiangju


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> Hello,
>
> I am looking for research on how editors transition through various levels
> of involvement in their time as editors. The questions I ask myself are:
>
> - How many people to come each month?
> - How many editors leave?
>
> …those are not too difficult to answer but…
>
> - How many people become more involved over time? E.g. How many each month
> come to a level where they are interested in handling many pages on the
> watchlist, learn the less obvious aspects of wiki culture etc.
>
> In my work as designer I am often involved in features for intermediate
> and/or very involved users and I’m wondering if there are any ballpark
> estimates of how many people learn these features each month.
>
> Jan
>
> --
> Jan Dittrich
> UX Design/ User Research
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
> Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0
> http://wikimedia.de
>
> Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment.
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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> To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities
> 
> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions,
> learning over time, leaving
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>
> Hi Jan
>
> Together with other people in my group, we wrote a paper about how
> Wikidata editors change their behaviour as they become more experienced.
> It might be not precisely what you are looking for, as our study has a
> qualitative approach, while it seems that you are looking for something
> more quantitative, but you might have a look if you want.
> This is the link: https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/401755/
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions,
> Alessandro
>
> –––
> Alessandro Piscopo
> Web and Internet Science Group
> School of Electronics and Computer Science
> University of Southampton
> email: 

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

[Piscopo A .]

Hi Jan

Together with other people in my group, we wrote a paper about how Wikidata 
editors change their behaviour as they become more experienced.
It might be not precisely what you are looking for, as our study has a 
qualitative approach, while it seems that you are looking for something more 
quantitative, but you might have a look if you want.
This is the link: https://eprints.soton.ac.uk/401755/

Please let me know if you have any questions,
Alessandro

–––
Alessandro Piscopo
Web and Internet Science Group
School of Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton
email: a.pisc...@soton.ac.uk

On 20 Mar 2017, at 09:34, Jan Dittrich 
> wrote:

Hello,

I am looking for research on how editors transition through various levels
of involvement in their time as editors. The questions I ask myself are:

- How many people to come each month?
- How many editors leave?

…those are not too difficult to answer but…

- How many people become more involved over time? E.g. How many each month
come to a level where they are interested in handling many pages on the
watchlist, learn the less obvious aspects of wiki culture etc.

In my work as designer I am often involved in features for intermediate
and/or very involved users and I’m wondering if there are any ballpark
estimates of how many people learn these features each month.

Jan

--
Jan Dittrich
UX Design/ User Research

Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de

Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment.

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[Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

[Jan Dittrich]

Hello,

I am looking for research on how editors transition through various levels
of involvement in their time as editors. The questions I ask myself are:

- How many people to come each month?
- How many editors leave?

…those are not too difficult to answer but…

- How many people become more involved over time? E.g. How many each month
come to a level where they are interested in handling many pages on the
watchlist, learn the less obvious aspects of wiki culture etc.

In my work as designer I am often involved in features for intermediate
and/or very involved users and I’m wondering if there are any ballpark
estimates of how many people learn these features each month.

Jan

-- 
Jan Dittrich
UX Design/ User Research

Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
Phone: +49 (0)30 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de

Imagine a world, in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. That‘s our commitment.

Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
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