Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki-research-l Digest, Vol 173, Issue 5

[Juergen Fenn]

Am 07.01.20 um 06:45 Uhr schrieb James Salsman:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers
>>
> Says about 2,570 active users on meta in the past 30 days, compared to
> about 70,000 in unique editors on all projects? 3.7%?


How many of these are Wikimedia staff editing in this capacity?

Are there also numbers for the users of Wikimedia mailinglists?

Regards,
Jürgen.

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki-research-l Digest, Vol 173, Issue 5

[James Salsman]

>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers
>

Says about 2,570 active users on meta in the past 30 days, compared to
about 70,000 in unique editors on all projects? 3.7%?
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[Kerry Raymond]

I think we need to step back from the "how" for a moment in order to better 
understand the "why".

RhinosF1, what is the original question that you are really asking that 
resulted in your original request? It may be that there are other ways to 
answer your question than to obtain those particular statistics.

For example, my guess is that your original question might be along the lines 
of "is Wikimedia driven top-down or bottom-up"? Which might be answered by 
looking at who is active on meta and who is active on the projects themselves 
and seeing how they intersect. If so, that assumption of intersection may be 
flawed if users are operating with different user accounts on meta to other 
platforms. This definitely occurs with WMF staff who often have two separate 
accounts for their work role vs their personal contributions and also for 
people active in the chapters/user groups/outreach where they need to operate 
with a real world name (real world engagement tends to need real names), but 
prefer a pseudonym for their personal contributions.

If you can tell us more about what you are trying to achieve, we may be able to 
better assist you.

Kerry



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users

(Last reply to both lists; sorry for the spam)

This sounds like it'd be a bit of work to build, and I don't think there are 
curated datasets to help out. I think you would need to...

1. get the count of active editors on Meta for [PERIOD OF TIME]. Easy.
2. perform a query or parse dumps to get the *list *of active editors from 
every individual Wikimedia project for the same [PERIOD OF TIME]. Hard.
3. de-duplicate that list (since many people edit multiple wikis in a given 
say, month, and you don't want to overcount). Pretty easy.
4. compare the resulting all-projects count with the Meta-only count. Easy.

This sounds like a lot of work to me! Again, there might be tools or resources 
for this that already exist, but I'm not aware of them.

It seems like having topline/platform-level counts for active editors could be 
useful, as a dashboard or a public dataset. You might try requesting this as a 
feature 

for WikiStats. The worst they can say is "no", or "not yet" :)

- J


On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:34 PM RhinosF1 -  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’ve just seen the replies and thanks to everyone whose replied.
>
> I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia 
> community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki 
> farm. Any thoughts on that?
>
> RhinosF1
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Aaron Halfaker 
> wrote:
>
> > It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis.  I think 
> > you'd have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like 
> > that. I'm not sure I know of a good data strategy to get that.
> >
> > If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for
> every
> > wiki and then write some code to merge the results.  Oof.
> >
> > If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each 
> > Wiki separately and then merge the results.  Oof.
> >
> > The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across 
> > all Wikis and to aggregate from there.  I don't think there's any 
> > such cross-wiki table/relation available.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Same dashboard, but for "All wikis":
> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects
> > >
> > > That work?
> > >
> > > - J
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything 
> > > > for
> > > global?
> > > >
> > > > RhinosF1
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan 
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > RhinosF1,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you looking for information like this 
> > > > > , or
> something
> > > > > different?
> > > > >
> > > > > - J
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 - 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users 
> > > > > > are
> > > active
> > > > > > globally compared to active on metawiki?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days 
> > > > > > for
> > > this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > RhinosF1
> > > > > > ___
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[Dan Andreescu]

Some near to mid-term changes that might be useful for everyone chiming in:

* Active Editors across all wikis is a metric we're working on, and it will
be part of Wikistats 2 sometime this fiscal year
* The new mediawiki history dataset will let you download data for all
wikis and crunch these numbers and much more:
https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/mediawiki_history/readme.html (we're
close to publishing this but there's sample data for last August)

Maybe a little showcase talk is in order once the above two are completed?

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:09 PM Nuria Ruiz  wrote:

> >I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia
> community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. Any
> thoughts on that?
> I think it will help to give a bit of an example of why you are looking to
> find this information, why is it important. Participating in a wiki
> includes other things besides editions (translations for or software
> commits to features used on that one wiki, for example) so a precise
> comparison of one wiki ecosystem to the rest is quite a task.
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:58 PM Jonathan Morgan 
> wrote:
>
>> (Last reply to both lists; sorry for the spam)
>>
>> This sounds like it'd be a bit of work to build, and I don't think there
>> are curated datasets to help out. I think you would need to...
>>
>> 1. get the count of active editors on Meta for [PERIOD OF TIME]. Easy.
>> 2. perform a query or parse dumps to get the *list *of active editors
>> from every individual Wikimedia project for the same [PERIOD OF TIME]. Hard.
>> 3. de-duplicate that list (since many people edit multiple wikis in a
>> given say, month, and you don't want to overcount). Pretty easy.
>> 4. compare the resulting all-projects count with the Meta-only count.
>> Easy.
>>
>> This sounds like a lot of work to me! Again, there might be tools or
>> resources for this that already exist, but I'm not aware of them.
>>
>> It seems like having topline/platform-level counts for active editors
>> could be useful, as a dashboard or a public dataset. You might try requesting
>> this as a feature
>> 
>> for WikiStats. The worst they can say is "no", or "not yet" :)
>>
>> - J
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:34 PM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I’ve just seen the replies and thanks to everyone whose replied.
>>>
>>> I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia
>>> community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm.
>>> Any
>>> thoughts on that?
>>>
>>> RhinosF1
>>>
>>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Aaron Halfaker 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis.  I think you'd
>>> > have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like that. I'm
>>> not
>>> > sure I know of a good data strategy to get that.
>>> >
>>> > If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for
>>> every
>>> > wiki and then write some code to merge the results.  Oof.
>>> >
>>> > If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each
>>> Wiki
>>> > separately and then merge the results.  Oof.
>>> >
>>> > The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across all
>>> > Wikis and to aggregate from there.  I don't think there's any such
>>> > cross-wiki table/relation available.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Same dashboard, but for "All wikis":
>>> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects
>>> > >
>>> > > That work?
>>> > >
>>> > > - J
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 - 
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for
>>> > > global?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > RhinosF1
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan <
>>> jmor...@wikimedia.org>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > RhinosF1,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Are you looking for information like this
>>> > > > > , or
>>> something
>>> > > > > different?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - J
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 - 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Hi,
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users
>>> are
>>> > > active
>>> > > > > > globally compared to active on metawiki?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days
>>> for
>>> > > this.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > > > RhinosF1
>>> > > > > > ___
>>> > > > > > Analytics mailing list
>>> > > > > > analyt...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --
>>> > > > > Jon

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[Jonathan Morgan]

(Last reply to both lists; sorry for the spam)

This sounds like it'd be a bit of work to build, and I don't think there
are curated datasets to help out. I think you would need to...

1. get the count of active editors on Meta for [PERIOD OF TIME]. Easy.
2. perform a query or parse dumps to get the *list *of active editors from
every individual Wikimedia project for the same [PERIOD OF TIME]. Hard.
3. de-duplicate that list (since many people edit multiple wikis in a given
say, month, and you don't want to overcount). Pretty easy.
4. compare the resulting all-projects count with the Meta-only count. Easy.

This sounds like a lot of work to me! Again, there might be tools or
resources for this that already exist, but I'm not aware of them.

It seems like having topline/platform-level counts for active editors could
be useful, as a dashboard or a public dataset. You might try requesting
this as a feature

for WikiStats. The worst they can say is "no", or "not yet" :)

- J


On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:34 PM RhinosF1 -  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’ve just seen the replies and thanks to everyone whose replied.
>
> I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia
> community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. Any
> thoughts on that?
>
> RhinosF1
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Aaron Halfaker 
> wrote:
>
> > It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis.  I think you'd
> > have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like that. I'm not
> > sure I know of a good data strategy to get that.
> >
> > If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for
> every
> > wiki and then write some code to merge the results.  Oof.
> >
> > If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each Wiki
> > separately and then merge the results.  Oof.
> >
> > The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across all
> > Wikis and to aggregate from there.  I don't think there's any such
> > cross-wiki table/relation available.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Same dashboard, but for "All wikis":
> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects
> > >
> > > That work?
> > >
> > > - J
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for
> > > global?
> > > >
> > > > RhinosF1
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > RhinosF1,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you looking for information like this
> > > > > , or
> something
> > > > > different?
> > > > >
> > > > > - J
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 - 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are
> > > active
> > > > > > globally compared to active on metawiki?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for
> > > this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > RhinosF1
> > > > > > ___
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> > > > > > analyt...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Senior Design Researcher
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[RhinosF1 -]

Hi,

I’ve just seen the replies and thanks to everyone whose replied.

I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia
community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. Any
thoughts on that?

RhinosF1

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Aaron Halfaker 
wrote:

> It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis.  I think you'd
> have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like that. I'm not
> sure I know of a good data strategy to get that.
>
> If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for every
> wiki and then write some code to merge the results.  Oof.
>
> If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each Wiki
> separately and then merge the results.  Oof.
>
> The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across all
> Wikis and to aggregate from there.  I don't think there's any such
> cross-wiki table/relation available.
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan 
> wrote:
>
> > Same dashboard, but for "All wikis":
> > https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects
> >
> > That work?
> >
> > - J
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for
> > global?
> > >
> > > RhinosF1
> > >
> > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > RhinosF1,
> > > >
> > > > Are you looking for information like this
> > > > , or something
> > > > different?
> > > >
> > > > - J
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 - 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are
> > active
> > > > > globally compared to active on metawiki?
> > > > >
> > > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for
> > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > RhinosF1
> > > > > ___
> > > > > Analytics mailing list
> > > > > analyt...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jonathan T. Morgan
> > > > Senior Design Researcher
> > > > Wikimedia Foundation
> > > > User:Jmorgan (WMF) <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jmorgan_(WMF)
> > >
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[Aaron Halfaker]

It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis.  I think you'd
have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like that. I'm not
sure I know of a good data strategy to get that.

If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for every
wiki and then write some code to merge the results.  Oof.

If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each Wiki
separately and then merge the results.  Oof.

The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across all
Wikis and to aggregate from there.  I don't think there's any such
cross-wiki table/relation available.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan 
wrote:

> Same dashboard, but for "All wikis":
> https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects
>
> That work?
>
> - J
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for
> global?
> >
> > RhinosF1
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > RhinosF1,
> > >
> > > Are you looking for information like this
> > > , or something
> > > different?
> > >
> > > - J
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are
> active
> > > > globally compared to active on metawiki?
> > > >
> > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for
> this.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > RhinosF1
> > > > ___
> > > > Analytics mailing list
> > > > analyt...@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[Jonathan Morgan]

Same dashboard, but for "All wikis":
https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects

That work?

- J

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for global?
>
> RhinosF1
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan 
> wrote:
>
> > RhinosF1,
> >
> > Are you looking for information like this
> > , or something
> > different?
> >
> > - J
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are active
> > > globally compared to active on metawiki?
> > >
> > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > RhinosF1
> > > ___
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> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[RhinosF1 -]

Hi,

That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for global?

RhinosF1

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan  wrote:

> RhinosF1,
>
> Are you looking for information like this
> , or something
> different?
>
> - J
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> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are active
> > globally compared to active on metawiki?
> >
> > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for this.
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[Jonathan Morgan]

RhinosF1,

Are you looking for information like this
, or something
different?

- J

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 -  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are active
> globally compared to active on metawiki?
>
> This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for this.
>
> Thanks,
> RhinosF1
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[Wiki-research-l] Active meta users v active wikimedia users

[RhinosF1 -]

Hi,

Does anyone know a way to find out how many  wikimedia users are active
globally compared to active on metawiki?

This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days for this.

Thanks,
RhinosF1
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Why is Wikipedia still so often frowned upon in academic circles?

[Shani Evenstein]

Congrats, Dariusz!

To anyone interested in exploring the main question Dariusz presented
further, the following article is recommended -

To those who have academic access and want to review online -
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13614533.2012.740439
To those who don't, here is the bibliographic reference (Also attached the
PDF) -
Bayliss, G. (2013). Exploring the cautionary attitude toward Wikipedia in
higher education: Implications for higher education institutions. *New
Review of Academic Librarianship*, *19*(1), 36-57.

I still think we've made major steps forward in the past decade. Actually,
I'd say that these days, we are in the same place with Wikidata and
Academia, as we were about a decade or so with Wikipedia. But that's a
whole other discussion. :)

Cheers,
Shani.

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On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:04 AM Dariusz Jemielniak 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In this GigaScience piece, I'm arguing, that "We are the 1% in terms of
> knowledge access privilege; developing Wikipedia, the common good of
> humanity, is our moral obligation", and trying to figure out why academics
> still frown upon Wikipedia.
> https://academic.oup.com/gigascience/article/8/12/giz139/5651107
>
> Besides a shameless self-promo, I'm also genuinely curious what your
> experience with persuading people in Academia that what you do is legit is.
>
> best,
>
> dj
>
>
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> ]
>
> Dariusz Jemielniak, Ph.D., Full Professor, head of  MINDS<
> https://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/>
>
> (Management in Networked and Digital  Societies), Kozminski University
>
>
> associate faculty Berkman-Klein Center for Internet and Society<
> https://cyber.harvard.edu>, Harvard University
>
> Recent articles:
>
>   *   Jérôme Hergueux, Dariusz Jemielniak (2019) Should digital files be
> considered a commons? Copyright infringement in the eyes of lawyers<
> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01972243.2019.1616019?fbclid=IwAR1Wskn7Bwnhko05SS-frOc6TiAuxPzPSWGo5_50Xu6NiNdxnDfxeleF-PM>,
> The Information Society, 35(4): 198-215
>   *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Gwinyai Masukume, Maciej Wilamowski (2019) The
> Most Influential Medical Journals According to Wikipedia: Quantitative
> Analysis, Journal of Medical
> Internet Research, 21 (1), pp. e11429
>   *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Aleksandra Przegalinska, Agata Stasik (2018)
> Anecdotal evidence: understanding organizational reality through
> organizational humorous tales<
> http://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/HUMOR-Anecdotal-evidence-understanding-organizational-reality-through-organizational-humorous-tales.pdf>
> HUMOR: International Journal of Humor Research 31:  3.  539–561.
>   *   Dariusz Jemielniak, Maciej Wilamowski (2017)  Cultural Diversity of
> Quality of Information on Wikipedias<
> http://crow.kozminski.edu.pl/papers/cultures%20of%20wikipedias.pdf>
> Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68:  10.
> 2460–2470.
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