[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22300

p858snake p858sn...@yahoo.com.au changed:

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--- Comment #12 from p858snake p858sn...@yahoo.com.au 2010-07-05 03:39:57 UTC 
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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 13127 ***

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-28 18:24:31 UTC ---
Actually it is a duplicate of   Bug 13127 -  Page number attribute for ref
tags

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 12:31:43 UTC ---
Duplicate of Bug 13127

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 15:08:35 UTC 
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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 20707 ***

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 15:33:27 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 
 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 20707 ***

 Bug 20707 is about nested refs; this is about adding page number support.

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Platonides platoni...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 15:45:20 UTC 
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Seems I have misunderstood it. The is description not too clear... :/

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 15:52:58 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 Seems I have misunderstood it. The is description not too clear... :/

I agree. The title and implementation are unclear. If this can be retitled, I
suggest add page number parameter.

As to implementation, it would be more like:

 ref name=article1 page=2

Editors keep asking for a page number parameter in Cite.php, but I have never
seen a good description of where and how it should appear. If it is to appear
inline, then it would be like the en.wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R. If in the reference list, then the
only way I can see this is like shortened footnotes—
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CITESHORT.

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from maxime.sain...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 16:38:49 UTC ---
Sorry if the explanation is not clear, i'm not fluent in english.
I think this feature request is not the same as Bug 20707, even if they both
talk about pages in refs, which is not handled very well at the moment. What I
am asking for is to be able to add a ref to an article, and also to add a ref
to a subpart of this article.

When I add a ref to a subpart of an article, what I do is using a group, and
grouping refs in the bottom of the article like this :
* Name of an article about the subject, which is 3 pages long
references group=A/ 

But if I do this, the only way to refer to the article as a whole is to add a
ref with Name of an article about the subject, which is 3 pages long as text,
which will cause this text to be duplicated in the bottom of this article.

So I wanted to write this to avoid duplication of the text :
== References ==
references
* ref name=article1An article about the subject, which is 3 pages
long/ref
references/
references group=A/ 

But it doesn't work.

Sorry if it's still hard to understand. Any feature oriented to add support of
subpages in references named would be great.

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 17:00:15 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #6)
 Sorry if the explanation is not clear, i'm not fluent in english.
 I think this feature request is not the same as Bug 20707, even if they both
 talk about pages in refs, which is not handled very well at the moment. What I
 am asking for is to be able to add a ref to an article, and also to add a ref
 to a subpart of this article.
 
 When I add a ref to a subpart of an article, what I do is using a group, and
 grouping refs in the bottom of the article like this :
 * Name of an article about the subject, which is 3 pages long
 references group=A/ 
 
 But if I do this, the only way to refer to the article as a whole is to add a
 ref with Name of an article about the subject, which is 3 pages long as 
 text,
 which will cause this text to be duplicated in the bottom of this article.
 
 So I wanted to write this to avoid duplication of the text :
 == References ==
 references
 * ref name=article1An article about the subject, which is 3 pages
 long/ref
 references/
 references group=A/ 
 
 But it doesn't work.
 
 Sorry if it's still hard to understand. Any feature oriented to add support of
 subpages in references named would be great.

Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:rp 

That template allows named references to be reused and adds the page number
inline.

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 17:10:56 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 (In reply to comment #4)
  Seems I have misunderstood it. The is description not too clear... :/
 
 I agree. The title and implementation are unclear. If this can be retitled, I
 suggest add page number parameter.
 
 As to implementation, it would be more like:
 
  ref name=article1 page=2
 
 Editors keep asking for a page number parameter in Cite.php, but I have never
 seen a good description of where and how it should appear. If it is to appear
 inline, then it would be like the en.wiki
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:R. If in the reference list, then the
 only way I can see this is like shortened footnotes—
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CITESHORT.

That should have been http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:rp

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from maxime.sain...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 20:23:26 UTC ---
In my opinion, Template:rp adds too much information in text. I think that
pages should be specified at the bottom of the page, not in the text.

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[Bug 22300] Allow mixed usages of references

2010-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Gadget850 ed.pal...@gmail.com 2010-05-22 20:29:16 UTC ---
Show me what that would look like.

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