[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-06-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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crangasi2...@yahoo.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|FIXED   |

--- Comment #19 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-06-14 16:18:35 UTC ---
I'm reopening this bug because the custom namespaces were not changes. These
are Discuție Proiect and Discuție Portal. Right now, this is a serious
problem, as there is no uniformity between all the namespaces.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-06-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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crangasi2...@yahoo.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|enhancement |major

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-06-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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JeLuF je...@gmx.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #20 from JeLuF je...@gmx.de 2010-06-14 17:35:46 UTC ---
Done.
===
Index: InitialiseSettings.php
===
--- InitialiseSettings.php(revision 863)
+++ InitialiseSettings.php(working copy)
@@ -2095,6 +2095,10 @@
'Discussão_Em_tradução' = 109,
'Discussão_em_tradução' = 109,  
 ),
+'rowiki' = array(
+'Discuţie_Portal' = 101,
+'Discuţie_Proiect'= 103,
+),
 'rowikibooks' = array(
 'Wikibooks' = NS_PROJECT,
 'Discuţie_Wikibooks' = NS_PROJECT_TALK,
@@ -3653,9 +3657,9 @@
 ),
 'rowiki' = array( 
 100 = 'Portal', 
-101 = 'Discuţie_Portal',
+101 = 'Discuție_Portal',
 102 = 'Proiect',
-103 = 'Discuţie_Proiect',
+103 = 'Discuție_Proiect',
 ),
 'ruwiki' = array( 100 = 'Портал', 101 = 'Обсуждение_портала' ),
 'scnwiki' = array(

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-05-19 08:03:11 UTC ---
Solved. Thanks.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #16 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-05-18 18:22:28 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
 Core namespace names committed in r66591.

Deployed.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from JeLuF je...@gmx.de 2010-05-18 20:46:58 UTC ---
The following discussion pages couldn't be moved automatically. Please check
them manually. They have been moved to {{{original name}}}--DUP:

... 371075 (1,Imagine:Sibiuphoto.jpg) - (7,Sibiuphoto.jpg) [[Discuție
Fișier:Sibiuphoto.jpg]]
...  *** cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 276138 ***
...  *** old title Sibiuphoto.jpg
...  *** new title Sibiuphoto.jpg--DUP
...  *** using suffixed form [[Discuție Fișier:Sibiuphoto.jpg--DUP]] ***
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 162877 (1,Format:Revoluţionari_români_la_1848) -
(11,Revoluţionari_români_la_1848) [[Discuție Format:Revoluţionari români la
1848]]
...  *** cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 177414 ***
...  *** old title Revoluţionari_români_la_1848
...  *** new title Revoluţionari_români_la_1848--DUP
...  *** using suffixed form [[Discuție Format:Revoluţionari români la
1848--DUP]] ***
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 54302 (1,Portal:Economie) - (101,Economie) [[Discuţie
Portal:Economie]]
...  *** cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 39576 ***
...  *** old title Economie
...  *** new title Economie--DUP
...  *** using suffixed form [[Discuţie Portal:Economie--DUP]] ***
... resolving on page...
ok.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from JeLuF je...@gmx.de 2010-05-17 20:16:45 UTC ---
The two changes should be done at the same time.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-05-17 20:20:01 UTC ---
I still don't see the reasons for this, but so be it. Let's say I do the
changes in translatewiki tomorrow (EET), could you take care of both the
translation push and the creation of aliases?

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-05-17 20:54:27 
UTC ---
A TranslateWiki export will also add aliases for the old names. After you make
the change in TranslateWiki, we can ask Siebrand to export the namespace names
and deploy it after he's done that.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-05-17 21:41:44 UTC ---
I asked this on the support page at Translatewiki [1]

[1]
http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#Changing_the_Romanian_namespaces_%28diacritics%29_3723

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl 2010-05-18 00:31:31 CEST 
---
Core namespace names committed in r66591.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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crangasi2...@yahoo.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Normal  |High

--- Comment #7 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-05-11 15:09:18 UTC ---
Hi,

I'm bringing this bug back to attention hoping that someone will find the time
to solve it. We have reached an agreement to pass to the correct diacritics at
the Romanian Wikipedia and this is blocking all the other efforts.

Thanks.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from JeLuF je...@gmx.de 2010-05-11 15:57:40 UTC ---
Did you already switch to the new diacritics? The aliases can't be set up as
long as the namespaces still have the old name, the alias and the name would be
identical.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-05-11 16:09:28 UTC ---
If you're referring to the changes in TranslateWiki, we haven't done it yet.
Still, as I said above, the way to do it without breaking functionality should
be by first creating the aliases and THEN pushing changes to the live site. Is
there a technical problem preventing the alias from being identical to the
original?

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bogdan Stăncescu gut...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Bogdan Stăncescu gut...@gmail.com 2010-05-11 20:50:45 
UTC ---
Seems like a summary is in order, so here.

The community at ro.wiki has decided in principle to migrate to the new
diacritics, per Unicode 3.0 (see OP). Several namespaces use the affected
characters (see comment 3).

And with that, allow me to introduce the vicious circle:
* We can't start by using the new diacritics in the Wiki pages, because that
would break all links to the respective namespaces, since they don't yet exist.
* We can't start by changing the names of the namespaces in TranslateWiki,
because that would break all links to the respective namespaces, since the ones
currently referenced in the Wiki pages would cease to exist.

Hence the need for namespace aliases. Now that you understand the problem, what
solution would you suggest?

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-02-22 11:53:09 UTC ---
Created an attachment (id=7159)
 -- (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=7159)
contains the number of the impacted namespace and the name with the old
diacritics

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-02-22 12:08:09 UTC ---
I want to add that I know that translations will probably be made through
translatewiki.net, but we need those aliases before changing the translation.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-02-22 18:34:18 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 I want to add that I know that translations will probably be made through
 translatewiki.net, but we need those aliases before changing the translation.

The custom namespaces (numbers 100 and higher) have to be translated in the
wiki config, the built-in namespaces (numbers below 100) have to be translated
at TranslateWiki.

Summary of the attached hard-to-open-because-of-the-MIME-type CSV files:

Rename the following custom namespaces, leaving the old names as aliases:
101: Discuție Portal - Discuţie Portal
103: Discuție Proiec - Discuţie Proiect

Create the following aliases once the translated namespace names have been
added at TranslateWiki and pushed to the live site:

1: Discuție
3: Discuție Utilizator
5: Discuție Wikipedia
6: Fișier
7: Discuție Fișier
9: Discuție MediaWiki
11: Discuție Format
13: Discuție Ajutor
15: Discuție Categorie

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-02-22 18:37:27 UTC ---
Why create the aliases AFTER the translations have been pushed to the live
site? This would mean breaking all the internal links to those namespaces for a
while.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-02-22 18:41:28 
UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 Why create the aliases AFTER the translations have been pushed to the live
 site? This would mean breaking all the internal links to those namespaces for 
 a
 while.

*Together* with pushing them, my mistake. I believe adding the (currently
unnecessary) aliases now should also work.

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[Bug 22616] Create aliases for Romanian namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from crangasi2...@yahoo.com 2010-02-22 18:42:17 UTC ---
 Create the following aliases once the translated namespace names have been
 added at TranslateWiki and pushed to the live site:
 
 1: Discuție
 3: Discuție Utilizator
 5: Discuție Wikipedia
 6: Fișier
 7: Discuție Fișier
 9: Discuție MediaWiki
 11: Discuție Format
 13: Discuție Ajutor
 15: Discuție Categorie

You got it the other way around. These are the correct diacritics, they should
be pushed in translatewiki. We need aliases using the old diacritics:

1: Discuţie
3: Discuţie Utilizator
5: Discuţie Wikipedia
6: Fişier
7: Discuţie Fişier
9: Discuţie MediaWiki
11: Discuţie Format
13: Discuţie Ajutor
15: Discuţie Categorie

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