[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 Krinkle changed: What|Removed |Added CC|krinklem...@gmail.com | AssignedTo|krinklem...@gmail.com |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #12 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-24 15:44:50 UTC --- OK, I added Bug 26415. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 Krinkle changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Comment #11 from Krinkle 2010-12-24 15:08:35 UTC --- Default styling added to the CSS in r78964 (as the bug requested). If you think the HTML markup should be changed, please open a seperate bug. The issue raised in the mailinglist thread is fixed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 Krinkle changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|wikibug...@lists.wikimedia. |krinklem...@gmail.com |org | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 jida...@jidanni.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jida...@jidanni.org --- Comment #10 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-24 13:59:16 UTC --- How about ? Ilmari, mail does not get to you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 Krinkle changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|7936| -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #9 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-22 03:33:45 UTC --- That is unfortunate. Use any tag you like, just make sure it is HTML, not just CSS. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #8 from Krinkle 2010-12-22 03:31:05 UTC --- I refuse to take part of this discussion again. Have a nice day. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #7 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-22 03:29:55 UTC --- All I can say is there are a lot of us http://www.google.com/search?q=text+browser users out there and we're not going away. If is bad, then use . If is not allowed, then remove it forthwith from all MediaWiki code, and don't talk about accessibility anymore during funding drives, etc. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266
--- Comment #6 from Krinkle 2010-12-22 03:20:05 UTC ---
imho
* because using or has a special meaning which we dont intend to
trigger and is going towards deprecation because CSS should be used.
* because replacing markup causees a selector like
$(context).find("span.allpagesredirect") or CSS "span.allpagesredirect {
color:green }" will no longer work if the element gets a different tagname.
* because using CSS is what Wikipedia has done for years and what people are
copying to their websites.
And about text/non-text browsers... can you elaborate on that ? I'm now sure I
follow, MediaWiki currently supports down to IE6. Anything older is not fully
supported and failure or degration will occur in places.
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[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #5 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-22 03:12:56 UTC --- Why can't you make it work for both text and non-text browsers, like MediaWiki already does here: Normal special pages. Restricted special pages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 Krinkle changed: What|Removed |Added CC||krinklem...@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from Krinkle 2010-12-22 03:02:47 UTC --- I object! Please just add the css-line to the standard styles (be it common or skin-specific css) in SVN. That way scripts looking for spans with that class won't brake and everything stays in sync. CSS classes are made exactly for that reason, right ? To use them. The classes are already implemented, so we only have to add a single line to the default MediaWiki styling (as has been done before for certain styles that make sense by default) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #3 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-15 01:31:04 UTC --- Can this () be implemented soon? Taiwan counties are being merged on 2010/12/25 causing a ton of redirects for me, and I would like to avoid just fixing it for myself, to be later forgotten for the rest of the MediaWiki community. Should I post in wikitech-l to see if there are any objections? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 --- Comment #2 from jida...@jidanni.org 2010-12-12 01:47:23 UTC --- Yes, please use . I will pull via SVN the minute I hear you have made this change. Thanks. As for all the others out there, I will try and do something about them via this thread http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2010-December/050618.html . -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 Ilmari Karonen changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nos...@vyznev.net --- Comment #1 from Ilmari Karonen 2010-12-11 16:46:11 UTC --- Using doesn't really seem semantically appropriate: we don't want to _emphasize_ those redirects; if anything, we want to make them easier to gloss over. Using would be better, since it at least doesn't come with inappropriate semantic baggage. (That's the same reason we use instead of for ''italics'': the parser can't know if the editor meant the italics to signify emphasis or something else.) I suspect the reason allpagesredirect was originally made into an unstyled span was to avoid complaints from users about an unexpected interface change. Certainly that was one reason I did the same when I later added redirect-in-category (although mostly I was just following precedent). In some ways, that's [[Parkinson's Law of Triviality]] at work: rewrite an interface completely, and people will shrug and adapt to it, but if you just change a tiny detail like italicizing some links, many folks will go "Hey, we had it looking just right before, why did you have to mess it up?!?" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26266] Add .allpagesredirect, .redirect-in-category to standard CSS
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