[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #21 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org --- Change 138229 merged by jenkins-bot: Enable View of new messages on talk page without Echo https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138229 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Florian florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de changed: What|Removed |Added Status|PATCH_TO_REVIEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Florian florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |florian.schmidt.welzow@t-on |org |line.de -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|PATCH_TO_REVIEW -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #20 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org --- Change 138229 had a related patch set uploaded by Florianschmidtwelzow: Enable Legacy view of new messages on talk page https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138229 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #19 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com --- (In reply to comment #17) I still struggle, despite endless talk page discussions, to see how a legacy orange bar of death from back in the 90s is better than Echo. Because it's a single hammer that's historically been used with every nail. Regardless of whether a new message is WikiProject spam (come to wikimeetup 103!) or an urgent block notice (you've been indefinitely blocked for harassment), it uses the same notification (the orange bar of doom). It's not a particularly smart design, but inertia is cruel. MobileFrontend is a futuristic home for shiny things from the future and shouldn't house things like this. I'm not sure this is the purpose of MobileFrontend, but that discussion is outside the scope of this bug report. (As is a discussion about whether the Echo extension should be part of MediaWiki core.) If anonymous users can't receive messages, that's a blocker to enabling anonymous editing. That's a real issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #18 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org --- Also I have wasted way too much time reporting on this bug now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #17 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org --- I'm curious to on what basic you think Echo should not be merged into core (whether there are plans or not it should be the long term plan). I still struggle, despite endless talk page discussions, to see how a legacy orange bar of death from back in the 90s is better than Echo. MobileFrontend is a futuristic home for shiny things from the future and shouldn't house things like this. So why can't this be a WONTFIX..? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Lowest Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- Summary|Former pre-echo you have |Standard pre-echo you have |new messages bar is not|new messages bar is not |displayed |displayed --- Comment #16 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #11) After talking with Jared and thinking carefully about this, it seems a better solution would be to ensure a form of Echo is merged into core. This is out of the scope for the mobile team. We should not be supporting legacy features. Re-opening this. There are no plans to merge Echo into core, nor should Echo be merged into core in it's current state. The standard (not former) new messages indicator is not a *legacy* feature, it's what nearly every wiki uses. This is a request to show some kind of indicator for wikis that don't have echo installed or for anonymous users. WONTFIXing is only appropriate if you believe that this feature should not live in MF, which I can't think any reason for. MaxSem has already offered to look into this when he has time, setting lowest priority accordingly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||easy -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #8 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org --- Someone from the dev team will have to weigh in on it, but it seems like if you don't have echo, then previous notifications should work, however if that notification type was never working on mobile before then it would be a new feature request. As far as who would develop this, I don't know that the WMF mobile dev team would have this on their roadmap given that its basically been deprecated in favor of echo notifications. A community developer might want to take it on for sites that use MobileFrontend but not echo, I'd suggest a requirement as part of the work that if echo is enabled this feature disables itself so that users don't receive duplicate notifications. I would question rather it makes sense to spend time developing this legacy feature further rather than rolling out echo on sites that don't currently support it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- --- Comment #9 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #8) Someone from the dev team will have to weigh in on it, but it seems like if you don't have echo, then previous notifications should work Thanks. Reopening accordingly. As for priority, I'll let the team set it; Lowest is often an indicator of very good and satisfactory projects for volunteers, so feel free to use it for this report. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #10 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com --- This still makes sense to do as while on WMF mobile users have to be logged in to do anything that might result in them receiving messages, this might not be the case for third-party wikis. Gotta do this on my research time if nobody else tackles this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Previous pre-echo you have |Standard pre-echo you have |new messages bar is not|new messages bar is not |displayed |displayed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #6 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org --- Unless i'm misunderstanding what you mean, these notifications are delivered via echo. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|design | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 56834] Standard pre-echo you have new messages bar is not displayed
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56834 --- Comment #7 from Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #6) Unless i'm misunderstanding what you mean, these notifications are delivered via echo. As mentioned in comment 0, anonymous users don't get echo (bug 56828). There are also wikis that use MobileFrontend, but not Echo - Uncyclopedia (http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Main_Page) is a good example. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
