[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #15 from Juan de Vojníkov juandevojni...@gmail.com --- I am actually neutral in enabling I just noted here for the record, that there are objections and reservations to enabling. No, you are not neutral. Thats why I am not happy Tomasz W. Kozlowski re-assign this bug to you. You want to push your way to do this, thats why you are talking about objections. JAn Dudik on cs.wv wrote: A pokud přesto ty kategorie chcete, nechte si zavést takový název, který bude vyhovovat všem stranám - vám na názvu až tak nezáleží, jen když kategorie budou, a pro Dannyho účely budou v jím preferovaném tvaru Uživatelé:xx-1. JAn Dudík (diskuse) 22. 5. 2014, 19:33 (UTC) ENGLISH: If you want those categories anyway, ask for the name, which will be acceptible for all parties - in fact you dont mind, how it will be called, you only need it, and format Uživatelé:xx-1 will be prefered by Danny B. and usefull for his purpose. (btw, do feel that sense of manipulation from this comment?) So basically Danny B. should not be assignee of this bug, because he is here in the conflict of interest. Personally I dont mind, how it will be called. The problem is how people proposing the version Uživatelé:xx-1 push it. They come to the discussion late and they are not big contributors to the project. *user:JAn Dudík **Proposal: against categories, but if so, than Uživatelé:xx-1 **Agrument: Danny B. needs it *user:Milda: **Proposal: against categories, but if so, than Uživatelé:vlastnost **Argument: its natural and its used for more than 10 years on WMF projects **Milda things that we want categories for foreigners, but its not correct, he probably havent red well the supporting votes. Btw, 10 years on which projects? *user:Danny B.: **Proposal: strong oppose, but if so, Uživatelé:vlastnost **Argument: no argument *user:Tchoř: **Proposal: dont mind, but if so, Uživatelé:vlastnost **Argument: the argument of user:Milda is good So as it was blocked here by Danny B., I think we have to discuss localy about the next steps and it will take some time. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #16 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz --- (In reply to Juan de Vojníkov from comment #15) I am actually neutral in enabling I just noted here for the record, that there are objections and reservations to enabling. No, you are not neutral. Thats why I am not happy Tomasz W. Kozlowski re-assign this bug to you. You want to push your way to do this, thats why you are talking about objections. There *are* actually objections: https://cs.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiverzita:Diskusn%C3%AD_prostordiff=49051oldid=48979 https://cs.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiverzita:Diskusn%C3%AD_prostordiff=48976oldid=48975 (and I don't count those stated elsewhere by users who rejected to interfere in discussions with you) And no, I don't want to push it any particular way, but just the consensus one. And that hasn't been reached yet. Personally I dont mind, how it will be called. This is the (new) statement you should actually put on the community discussion page for the record, not here. Please cite people accurately, completely and without changing the meaning of their words or even the words themselves which gives readers totally different view on the situation than the reality actually is. Feel free to use Google translate for that. Thank you. So as it was blocked here by Danny B., I think we have to discuss localy about the next steps and it will take some time. Nothing is blocked, furthermore not by me. We are simply waiting for the consensus on the naming, which - according to your new statement above - seems to be closer now, so again, please state it for the record on the community discussion page. Thank you. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #12 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com --- What's the state of this bug? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 John F. Lewis johnflewi...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||shell --- Comment #13 from John F. Lewis johnflewi...@gmail.com --- Seems just be a patch now. Consensus exists for babel and looking at it, Czech names. I do note the assignee of the bug opposes the enabling of babel categories (from what I can see). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 Danny B. dann...@email.cz changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||community-consensus-needed --- Comment #14 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz --- (In reply to John F. Lewis from comment #13) Seems just be a patch now. Consensus exists for babel and looking at it, Czech names. I do note the assignee of the bug opposes the enabling of babel categories (from what I can see). Nope, you are actually not correct. I am actually neutral in enabling. Both sides have reasonable arguments. I just noted here for the record, that there are objections and reservations to enabling. Sorry if I made you confused by possibly ambiguous wording. Anyway, the only consensus there is that the names should be in Czech. However, there is no consensus on the format of them, hence why it is not closed yet. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #11 from Juan de Vojníkov juandevojni...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Danny B. from comment #10) Besides that, there are even some reservations against having those categories at all. Of course, they are. But the consensus, was to set up them. Anyway, lets continue in cs.wv. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #9 from Juan de Vojníkov juandevojni...@gmail.com --- So, after the discussion within the community[1], we would prefer '0' = 'Uživatel %code%-0', categories. [1] https://cs.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiverzita:Diskusn%C3%AD_prostor#Koment.C3.A1.C5.99e_.28Babel.29 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #10 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz --- There is no consensus on such naming. Neither on any other. Besides that, there are even some reservations against having those categories at all. Until there will be consensus, this will remain open. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #7 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com --- What's the state of this bug? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #8 from Juan de Vojníkov juandevojni...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Tomasz W. Kozlowski from comment #7) What's the state of this bug? There is a discussion at the local wiki, about it as I previously said. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #5 from Juan de Vojníkov juandevojni...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Tomasz W. Kozlowski from comment #1) Do you want to use English names for the categories, or Czech ones? We can either use: '0' = 'User %code%-0', or '0' = 'Uživatel %code%-0', and so on. I am sorry for Danny B. Tomasz. I will ask the community and let you know. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #6 from Juan de Vojníkov juandevojni...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Juan de Vojníkov from comment #5) (In reply to Tomasz W. Kozlowski from comment #1) Do you want to use English names for the categories, or Czech ones? We can either use: '0' = 'User %code%-0', or '0' = 'Uživatel %code%-0', and so on. I am sorry for Danny B. Tomasz. I will ask the community and let you know. OK, now I read to the end, it was assigned again to Danny B. But it doesnt change nothing. We will talk about it localy and we will let you know. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||shell Priority|Unprioritized |Normal Component|Site requests |Extension setup Severity|normal |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|shell | Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |twkozlow...@gmail.com |org | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 --- Comment #1 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com --- Do you want to use English names for the categories, or Czech ones? We can either use: '0' = 'User %code%-0', or '0' = 'Uživatel %code%-0', and so on. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 Danny B. dann...@email.cz changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dann...@email.cz Assignee|twkozlow...@gmail.com |dann...@email.cz --- Comment #2 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz --- (In reply to Tomasz W. Kozlowski from comment #1) Do you want to use English names for the categories, or Czech ones? We can either use: '0' = 'User %code%-0', or '0' = 'Uživatel %code%-0', and so on. None. The names haven't been set yet. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|dann...@email.cz|twkozlow...@gmail.com --- Comment #3 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com --- Please do not unassign me from this bug without first consulting it with me. Thank you! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 65211] Enable Extension:Babel's category on Czech Wikiversity
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65211 Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|twkozlow...@gmail.com |dann...@email.cz --- Comment #4 from Tomasz W. Kozlowski twkozlow...@gmail.com --- Re-assigning to Danny after a nice little chat about ways and means. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
