[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T227201: Disable Wikidata sitelinks in ProofreadPage namespaces

2021-11-13 Thread Billinghurst
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  Do we need to do anything in the task list for the creation of wiki space for 
any future Wikisources so that there does not have to be separate new site 
requests?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T97577: [Story] Magic Word __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to exclude pages from Special:UnconnectedPages

2021-07-12 Thread Billinghurst
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  We also should be looking to add it to mw:Help:Magic words 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words> when it goes live.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T97577: [Story] Magic Word __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to exclude pages from Special:UnconnectedPages

2021-07-12 Thread Billinghurst
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  @Johan I think that there would be value in mentioning this in a Tech News as 
it has value in that broader level announcement for the Wikimedia sisters.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275958: Enable interlanguage links from multilingual Wikisource to other Wikisources

2021-06-04 Thread Billinghurst
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  I presuming that this will be mentioned in Wikidata weekly summary, It would 
be great to have this mentioned in a relevant Tech News @Johan  that 
multi-language Wikisource will finally be having active interwiki links from 
Wikidata.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282624: Limit IA granting/revoking to stewards only

2021-05-16 Thread Billinghurst
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  In T282624#7087157 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282624#7087157>, @jrbs 
wrote:
  
  > In T282624#7087006 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282624#7087006>, 
@Billinghurst wrote:
  >
  >> It is **not **WMF's role to make community's operational decisions, as in 
what stewards alone can do. T does a disservice to the community when it so 
simply ignores the years of community operation. **The stewards were not set up 
to be, and should not be, your sole point of community consultation on these 
matters**.  Read the scope of their role. For matters of this significance it 
is simply wrong for WMF to think that they get to impose their solutions, 
especially only in consultation with stewards.  I am a little disappointed that 
stewards are not kicking back on this issue telling you that this is not for 
their decision, and saying that the community needs to be consulted.
  >>
  >> **WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE IN PHABRICATOR???**  That we are having to have 
this discussion on a phabricator speaks volume to the problem of staff 
isolating from community on general matters, and increasingly on so many 
matters. Do you not see this particularly as an issue?   This is a technical 
forum, not the place for our social conversations.
  >>
  >> I ask that you bring the social issues to metawiki.  Set out the problem, 
set out the exact principles, set out the non-negotiables, and then what is 
negotiable.  Please stop the change the methodology of benevolent dictatorship. 
I, personally, don't mind temporary measures to fix immediate concerns, but if 
this is months of existing discussion, it seems that you lost that opportunity.
  >
  > Please calm down. I think I made it quite clear that this was a misstep. I 
am human and make mistakes.
  
  Joe, I was perfectly calm.
  
  I am not blaming any individual. This is a system and process failure.   You 
have a whole team of people with whom you work, and you were working with a 
team of steward.  There were numbers of points of failure where there should 
have been people asking these questions.
  
  Yes, I piled on some reflections of my working with the WMF as an involved 
volunteer, and the changing dynamics.  If some of us have reflections of how 
tools and processes used to be and how they are less successful now, what would 
you like us to do?
  
  When it is only in phabricator that these matters can be raised and get any 
real interaction with staff and totally reactively, please don't come and tell 
us to calm down. Get your colleagues out into the wikis working with us there.  
If that is not going to happen, then come out and say that, so we can utilise 
our representatives to the board to put forward our points of view.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279399: Selective means to exclude (sub)pages from Special:UnconnectedPages

2021-04-05 Thread Billinghurst
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  Would also be looking to use it to tag category redirect pages which show up, 
though generally would not be getting a WD item

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279399: Selective means to exclude (sub)pages from Special:UnconnectedPages

2021-04-05 Thread Billinghurst
Billinghurst updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279399: Selective means to exclude (sub)pages from Special:UnconnectedPages

2021-04-05 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  The Wikisources need a means to selectively exclude (sub)pages from showing 
up in Special:UnconnectedPages. As currently it is next to useless with clutter 
items that would not need to be itemised
  
  Certain works of fiction will typically have Chapter 1 .. Chapter N which the 
Wikisources put as subpages to the work (and the work will have a WD edition 
item) however, we would typically not create an item for a chapter
  
  It is not all subpages that need this treatment as we have works where we 
would create items (non-fiction, poetry, etc.) so I would think that we need a 
means to mark at the rootpagename level that the subpages are not to be listed. 
Something that we could template would be ideal, I was thinking a binary switch.
  
  There also may be certain pages of all works that should not be itemised, so 
there would also be the need to identify a subpage of a work to not be 
itemised. Here I am thinking advertising material that may have been reproduced 
that is deemed not worthy of an item, so we would need an option at a page 
level.  So whether this becomes something that identifies subpages / thispage 
which could be embedded in a page.  It needs to be easy to do, easy to manage, 
so putting it into the page information would be bothersome.  I would guess 
that we would still need the ability to categorise its use so to watch or 
abuse/misuse.
  
  Thanks.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T138332: Interwiki links to/from Multilingual Wikisource

2020-11-19 Thread Billinghurst
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  @Ankry @Zyephyrus @Mahagaja @-jkb-  care to make comment for your community?  
 To me it is imperfect though better than not having a link. My biggest concern 
is that it won't be obvious to users to where to add mulWS links.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T251054: Search in Wikidata should display years of life (birth / death) for people items in search results

2020-04-25 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  When undertaking a general search within Wikidata the search results for 
people is pretty useless to readily identify people, and requires you to 
repeatedly drill down into items to explore the data when trying to match and 
avoid duplicates, and the more common a name, the more challenging it becomes.
  
  Example
  
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?search=peter%20smith=Special%3ASearch=1=1=1=1=1=1
  
  Some people have taken to adding (-) into description fields to give 
functionality, however, we have the data in the item, we should be needing to 
retype it.  It also complicates that process and those fields.
  
  There is no ready means to search the Wikidata based on name and years of 
life to focus on people searches either on specific year or general year, or 
period of living., so ...
  
  POTENTIAL SOLUTION change the data output.
  
  When people items are returned in a search result, if the years of life were 
able to be returned as well as the name and the description field this would 
give a more useful and usable search result.
  
  Search should not be hunt and peck, or give a general indication, it should 
be returning data that can be interpreted.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

2020-01-24 Thread Billinghurst
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  In T128173#5828946 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173#5828946>, 
@Uzume wrote:
  
  > The issue becomes how to represent multiple edition links in Mediawiki 
toolbars across multiple WMF wikis across their projects. Currently, as 
implemented via WD sitelinks, we only allow one link per wiki per project per 
WD item. This is in part owning to the limited space in the Mediawiki toolbars 
where such links are displayed. Even across wikis within a single project when 
only a single link is allowed per wiki, there can sometimes be a *very* large 
number of links (there are many languages in Wikipedia alone and already there 
are mechanisms that limit the number of sitelinks displayed in the toolbar by 
default).
  
  If English Wikisource has multiple editions of a work, then it creates a 
"Versions" page, and these we directly link to the work item.  Similarly, if 
there are multiple translations of a work (different translators) then we have 
a "translations" page that has links to the WD item for the work.  Obviously 
the numbers of versions and translations pages held at the Wikisource are quite 
limited.So it is understood that there will only be one interwiki link from 
WP to WS, and that would be versions/translations first, and then the editions 
in their absence.
  
  I also would think that the interwiki links between W: and S: would only be 
in the same language.  As such
  
  YES
  
  - interlanguage
  - interproject, same language
  
  NO
  
  - interprojects, and all languages
  
  noting that this would then be just two steps from W: in language to S: in 
another language, either following the W: link or the S: gets you there in two 
steps.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T220310: Wikisource misinterprets two images imported from Wikidata as a single redlink on Author pages

2019-04-08 Thread Billinghurst
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  Set a priority on the images. Clearly there is the need to set a preference.
  
  FWIW this is a local implementation at enWS in the {{author}}, so closing as 
nothing is wrong.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T217730: Connect wikimaniawiki to Wikidata

2019-03-26 Thread Billinghurst
Billinghurst closed this task as "Resolved".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T109579: [Epic] Give more sister projects access to Wikidata

2019-03-26 Thread Billinghurst
Billinghurst closed subtask T217730: Connect wikimaniawiki to Wikidata as 
Resolved.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T217730: Connect wikimaniawiki to Wikidata

2019-03-26 Thread Billinghurst
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  Works for me.  I have purged the few pages that I have done, and they were 
more predominantly test edits, so less fussed on their updatedness.  Thanks 
@Ladsgroup

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T217730: Connect wikimaniawiki to Wikidata

2019-03-20 Thread Billinghurst
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  In T217730#5041173 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217730#5041173>, 
@Mbch331 wrote:
  
  > I don't see the links to other wiki's on Wikimaniawiki. Also checked nlwiki 
and there I see a link to Wikimaniawiki.
  
  
  Very true. Two examples
  
  - https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania
  - https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Welcome

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T217730: Connect wikimaniawiki to Wikidata

2019-03-20 Thread Billinghurst
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  Working for me
  https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q7605021=prev=44922
  https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5622198=prev=44164
  
  Links add
  Display of wikidata link at wikimaniawiki functions as expected

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T217730: Connect wikimaniawiki to Wikidata

2019-03-06 Thread Billinghurst
Billinghurst added a parent task: T214888: Developing the Wikimania Wiki.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112715: Enable different URL shorteners for WDQS

2018-11-17 Thread Billinghurst
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In T112715#4755586, @WalterKlossew wrote:
I created a proposal on Community Wishlist Survey for URL shortener for Wikimedia wikis.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T205556: Missing labels on items (statements show item IDs instead of labels even though labels are defined)

2018-10-11 Thread Billinghurst
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@Addshore As I mentioned above, whilst I a having some issues with WD directly, I am having greater issues with WEF framework tool's lookups. As I create items and do the lookup for matching terms it is finding items successfully, though the rendering of the name into the visible for selection is regularly not occurring. If it was anything but the lookup I could say I had caching issues, however, the lookup will be fresh name every time.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205556EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Addshore, BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, MartinPoulter, Liuxinyu970226, Samwilson, Addshore, Aklapper, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Magnus, Nikki, WMDE-leszek, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, Jrbranaa, QZanden, LawExplorer, Jonas, Wong128hk, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T205556: Missing labels on items (statements show item IDs instead of labels even though labels are defined)

2018-10-06 Thread Billinghurst
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I regularly use the WEF Framework gadget, and over the last several days I am seeing this problem come and go.

There is a variation in the problems the range I am seeing is


no labels render at all through the gadget; (least often)
the labels in the form render, though labels in the dropdowns do not, the selections do not
the labels in the form and the dropdowns render , though the typeahead choices do not render  (when playing up this is the most regular misbehaviour)
behaving normally


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T188802: Adding property field Property:P742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces

2018-03-03 Thread Billinghurst
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It definitely works that way for description and aliases. Otherwise, I will have to dig through the free text fields to see where it happens as I come across them.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188802EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T188802: Adding property field Property:P742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces

2018-03-02 Thread Billinghurst
Billinghurst renamed this task from "Adding property field Property:(P)742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces" to "Adding property field Property:P742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces".Billinghurst updated the task description. (Show Details)
CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTIONIn Wikidata, when adding text to Property:P742(P)742 (pseudonym) it complains when there is a leading space rather than just ignoring and cropping it. This is already the behaviour for many other free text fields.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188802EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T188802: Adding property field Property:P742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces

2018-03-02 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T188802: Adding property field Property:(P)742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces

2018-03-02 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T188802: Adding property field P742 (pseudonym) needs to ignore leading spaces

2018-03-02 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONIn Wikidata, when adding text to Property:P742 (pseudonym) it complains when there is a leading space rather than just ignoring and cropping it. This is already the behaviour for many other free text fields.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188802EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T186945: Message welcome bots at local wikis trigger due to edits at Wikidata

2018-02-11 Thread Billinghurst
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Put the NewUserMessage back as it is the prime reason that I started the message.  I wrote above what I wished to be achieved please see suggestion a)  or b) in original message.

In the end, that WD editing creates accounts is interesting, that  it triggers the newusermessage bot is confusing.  We should not be confusing, especially at wikis where the user doesn't edit, and cannot read the script/language of the incoming message, and cannot even translate the message through a tool.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186945EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: matej_suchanek, Multichill, HakanIST, Trizek-WMF, NicoScribe, Liuxinyu970226, Jarekt, IKhitron, Sjoerddebruin, Pintoch, A2093064, Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T186945: Message welcome bots at local wikis trigger due to edits at Wikidata

2018-02-11 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T186945: Message welcome bots at local wikis trigger due to edits at Wikidata

2018-02-10 Thread Billinghurst
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In WD there was the following report by @NicoScribe

...

Until December 2017, I had approximately 108 local accounts listed by meta:Special:CentralAuth/NicoScribe they were the consequences of my visits on 108 Wikimedia projects. But after the deployment of mw:MediaWiki 1.31/wmf.12 I had approximately 404 local accounts (whereas I have made almost no new visit). Now, after the deployment of mw:MediaWiki 1.31/wmf.20, I have approximately 509 local accounts (whereas I have made almost no new visit).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T186945: Message welcome bots at local wikis trigger due to edits at Wikidata

2018-02-09 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T186945: Message welcome bot at local wikis trigger due to edits at Wikidata

2018-02-09 Thread Billinghurst
Billinghurst created this task.Billinghurst added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-NewUserMessage, Wikidata.Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper.
TASK DESCRIPTIONWe have a mediawiki setting that allows a local wiki to welcome new users (not exactly sure of the mechanism, though I believe that it is Extension:NewUserMessage).

We have an issue where an edit at Wikidata is triggering the newusermessage to be delivered at the target wiki for the WD edit. This is quite disconcerting to have a welcome message appear at a wiki when you are not registered there, so let alone I haven't edited there.

Take into account that these are messages


from an unknown account, sometimes where there is no ability to translate the language
from a wiki where you have never been
where you have to guess that they are a welcome message, not a spam attack
not time-relevant to an edit that you made
the default settings at the new wiki make it difficult to see the context of the message (bot account; wikidata edits are hidden; delayed response to edit time)


Example, this edit at Wikidata

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:EntityPage/Q5296=6240=627751450=627679753
Revision as of 03:49, 7 February 2018

has been identified by many wikis to send me a variety of welcome messages over a period of time. One example:

https://hi.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:RecentChanges?hidebots=1=1=500=7=2

D विकिविश्वविद्यालय:मुखपृष्ठ (Q5296); 09:19 . . Billinghurst (talk | contribs) (Reverted edits by Manvydasz (talk) to last revision by Sjoerddebruin)

It has created 7 accounts for me, and I have received at least two messages. sort on "atttached on" Fortunately I had 800++ accounts already, otherwise it could have been a bit of a welcome message storm.

Can we please have one of the following implemented
a) newusermessage bot needs a physical edit on the wiki in questions rather than a shadow edit elsewhere; or
b) that WD edits are not visible to the extension

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112715: Enable different URL shorteners for WDQS

2018-02-09 Thread Billinghurst
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Personally I still don't understand why the Wikidata-query-service doesn't generate their own shortened urls and own the resolution. It shouldn't have external security issues, and less in the way of abuse.  Magnus has done that with petscan.  Waiting for the broader WMF to resolve this is where there is no evident poltical will or impetus is becomng ... .TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112715EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, Ivanhercaz, abian, WalterKlossew, Wittylama, Framawiki, Simon_Villeneuve, Metronomo, PokestarFan, Nemo_bis, Base, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Ash_Crow, Jklamo, eranroz, debt, Multichill, Pasleim, Zppix, nichtich, Bhumika30, Liuxinyu970226, Jonas, Ricordisamoa, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Lahi, Gq86, Darkminds3113, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, EBjune, merbst, LawExplorer, Avner, Gehel, FloNight, Xmlizer, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Tobias1984, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T166056: Add mw.wikibase.entity:getStatements for convenience

2018-01-16 Thread Billinghurst
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has the functionality here been added to an FAQ or help pages on Wikidata and/or Meta?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166056EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: eranroz, BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, gerritbot, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, TerraCodes, hoo, Asad_Ali_Palijo, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Soteriaspace, RazeSoldier, Jayprakash12345, JakeTheDeveloper, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, MuhammadShuaib, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T183341: New item fails (Special and WEF tool)

2017-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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In T183341#3851222, @jcrespo wrote:
@Billinghurst I was actually praising you for the report, for taking the time, and saying sorry it happened :-)


Yep, also thought that you were asking something else though, clearly not.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183341EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: jcrespo, Marostegui, Ladsgroup, Aklapper, Billinghurst, Rayssa-, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T183341: New item fails (Special and WEF tool)

2017-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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fwiw the phabricator ticket came on the seventh fail in however many minutes.  3 using tool, then 2 using create item; ask in IRC, get response try again through special item on 2 PCs, so call that at least 10-15 minute period of occurrence, and that would only be minimum if I started in coincidence with it starting.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T183341: New item fails (Special and WEF tool)

2017-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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if this is something that may recur, may I ask for the coordination of a more informative error message, or something that tells me to stop and come back soon?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183341EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Marostegui, Ladsgroup, Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Minhnv-2809, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T183341: New item fails (Special and WEF tool)

2017-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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after a big gap in RecentChanges there is a trickle of item creations now occurring.

I was able to create.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183341EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Ladsgroup, Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T183341: New item fails (Special and WEF tool)

2017-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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tried a separate PC and got same resulting failureTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183341EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T183341: New item fails (Special and WEF tool)

2017-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONWhen trying to creat a new item theough Special:NewItem it fails with the message

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.
[WjosPApAEKsAAEHeEl8A] 2017-12-20 09:24:28: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

Had previously tried to create item with WEF tool which had also failed a few times.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183341EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T54971: [Goal] Sitelinks to Incubator, OldWikisource and BetaWikiversity

2017-12-19 Thread Billinghurst
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Ouch everyone. Merry Christmas to you all.

The issue we have is a clash of technical nature


We have small languages put together on one wiki as it is easier/resource-wise to manage (WMF management)
Wikidata only allows one site link per wiki. (WD data mgt)


I didn't see that the proposal was to create the wikis, I saw the proposal into "tricking" wikidata, or mediawiki interwiki map to have an Asturian (ast:) work at mul.wikisource to be linkable by ast:(Title of work) or mul:(Title of work).  Perform the tricks at WD, perform it through moving files into specific paths, perform it be server path rewrites, whatever.

This is not about wikidata, so to speak, it is about giving these smaller represented languages the ability to have their works presented and linked. Wikidata is seen as the means to run queries, to search, to present metadata, and these small communities need someone to assist them to a resolution, not a lot of people just saying "no, too hard" and then moving back to the shiny toys, whatever, after all these years, we just would like a practical working solution.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54971EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Sannita, Superchilum, ChristianKl, daniel, Bugreporter, PokestarFan, Koavf, StevenJ81, Samwilson, Esc3300, srishakatux, C933103, Stashbot, hoo, aude, JanZerebecki, TTO, Liuxinyu970226, Accurimbono, Aklapper, Ricordisamoa, Purodha, liangent, Wikidata-bugs, Vogone, Candalua, SPQRobin, mxn, Filceolaire, jayvdb, Micru, revi, Billinghurst, Lydia_Pintscher, MF-Warburg, zhuyifei1999, Tpt, Abo00tamr, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, CXuesong, LawExplorer, Wong128hk, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T183100: Restrict the ability of users to choose enwiki Draft: namespace for Wikidata interwiki links

2017-12-17 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONWith wikidata interwikilinks it is possible to add enWP's Draft: namespace. Pages  in that namespace are not considered articles and should not be available to be chosen.   Where a page at enWP is moved from the main ns to the Draft: ns at Wikidata it should be treated with the same methodology as the link removal process.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181501: Problem in (Add links)

2017-11-28 Thread Billinghurst
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As _javascript_s / gadgets can be competing, has the user gone back to defaults, or used the quick means to neutralise gadgets and personalisation (and I cannot remember off the top of my head the quick means to do that).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181501EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, matej_suchanek, Mbch331, alanajjar, Aklapper, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Wikidata-bugs, aude___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T179130: chomp leading spaces and tabs from lookahead function in wikidata field entry

2017-10-27 Thread Billinghurst
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as a comment, I believe that we also used to have a terminating chomp of trailing space as part of the lookahead function, and now the addition of a space is literal in lookahead.  If that is purposeful behaviour, okay; if it is not, then maybe it can be looked at again.

There are benefits in either scheme in having a literal space, though if you have the space and don't identify that in the result, it can lead to thinking that a term does not exist and either creating it (as duplicate) or not linking an item.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179130EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Smalyshev, Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, GoranSMilovanovic, Jrbranaa, QZanden, EBjune, Avner, debt, Gehel, FloNight, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Mbch331, jeremyb___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T179130: chomp leading spaces and tabs from lookahead function in wikidata field entry

2017-10-26 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONWith wikidata, following the recent update, when text is pasted with leading spaces or a tab, the lookahead function used to be able to ignore the leading characters and focus on the text for its search. The chomp function has disappeared.

a simple example "

female given name
" is a text copy from the description field and it used to be able to be pasted into "instance of", and remove the superfluous spaces in its lookup. Ability lost.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179130EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, Lahi, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T177485: lost cursor focus in fields when adding property items

2017-10-05 Thread Billinghurst
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In T177485#3662700, @Billinghurst wrote:

In T177485#3661657, @thiemowmde wrote:
I tried to reproduce this, and even did a "git bisect" to find a possible regression, but was unable to locate one. Can you please provide more detailed steps to reproduce the issue? For example:


What is the exact button you click to start your process? I assume you are clicking "add statement" to select a property that was not on the entity before.
What exactly are you typing? (Please provide a real world example, e.g. you are typing "occ" to find "occupation".)
Are you using the mouse or enter to select a property? Are you using the cursor keys?
What happens, and what do you expect?



@thiemowmde


manually undertaking "add statement" or "add qualifier" [type property name or number, select it with mouse (usually)]
following selection of the property, there is no active cursor (it used to focus within the box for the addition of the item or data)

Typical example for me is
putting a "serial ordinal" for given names
following selection of the property I used to be able to just type the number as the cursor was focused in the corresponding field awaiting data input, now I have to click into the field to type the number.



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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T177485: lost cursor focus in fields when adding property items

2017-10-05 Thread Billinghurst
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In T177485#3661657, @thiemowmde wrote:
I tried to reproduce this, and even did a "git bisect" to find a possible regression, but was unable to locate one. Can you please provide more detailed steps to reproduce the issue? For example:


What is the exact button you click to start your process? I assume you are clicking "add statement" to select a property that was not on the entity before.
What exactly are you typing? (Please provide a real world example, e.g. you are typing "occ" to find "occupation".)
Are you using the mouse or enter to select a property? Are you using the cursor keys?
What happens, and what do you expect?



@thiemowmde


manually undertaking "add statement" or "add qualifier" [type property name or number, select it with mouse (usually)]
following selection of the property, there is no active cursor (it used to focus within the box for the addition of the item or data)


Typical example for me is


putting a "serial ordinal" for given names
following selection of the property I used to be able to just type the number as the cursor was focused in the corresponding field awaiting data input, now I have to click into the field to type the number.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T177485: lost cursor focus in fields when adding property items

2017-10-05 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONSince the update this week, after I manually select a property the cursor is no longer focused and active in the field for the item. Instead I am needing to click into the field. I am wondering whether others are seeing that behaviour?  (I'm using Firefox).

Another thing that changed is that when you tab on from the field to input an item (or string or whatever), the "Add qualifier" link is highlighted, but when I press Enter it saves the statement instead of adding a qualifier.

reported and confirmed users, and in multiple browsers
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T54971: [Goal] Sitelinks to Incubator, OldWikisource and BetaWikiversity

2017-09-02 Thread Billinghurst
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Well said @Koavf. mulWS is definitely a permanent home for some works and if Wikidata is to function fully there needs to be a means to link to these works. We are falling into an area where it seems that some are wiping their hands and walking away, and that is disrespectful for those pour their time into works yet who are captured by the hierarchy that has been created for them.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54971EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Bugreporter, PokestarFan, gh87, Koavf, StevenJ81, Samwilson, Esc3300, srishakatux, C933103, Stashbot, hoo, aude, JanZerebecki, TTO, Liuxinyu970226, Accurimbono, Aklapper, Ricordisamoa, Purodha, liangent, Wikidata-bugs, Vogone, Candalua, SPQRobin, mxn, Filceolaire, jayvdb, Micru, revi, Billinghurst, Lydia_Pintscher, MF-Warburg, zhuyifei1999, Tpt, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wong128hk, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T168810: Chomp leading and trailing spaces in Property:P742

2017-06-25 Thread Billinghurst
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CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTIONWhen adding pseudonyms to 

> `Property:P 742 

` where there is a leading or trailing space on the pseudonym text entry, WD reports malformed input and doesn't accept the input.  It would be really useful if these spaces could be removed as part of the data entry rather than complaining about the data entry. It is not always evident that there is a space, especially when this is often a copy and paste field.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168810EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T168810: Chomp leading and trailing spaces in Property:P742

2017-06-25 Thread Billinghurst
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CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTIONWhen adding pseudonyms to `

> Property:P742`  

where there is a leading or trailing space on the pseudonym text entry, WD reports malformed input and doesn't accept the input.  It would be really useful if these spaces could be removed as part of the data entry rather than complaining about the data entry. It is not always evident that there is a space, especially when this is often a copy and paste field.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168810EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T168810: Chomp leading and trailing spaces in Property:P742

2017-06-25 Thread Billinghurst
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CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTIONWhen adding pseudonyms to `Property:P742` where there is a leading or trailing space on the pseudonym text entry, WD reports malformed input and doesn't accept the input.  It would be really useful if these spaces could be removed as part of the data entry rather than complaining about the data entry. It is not always evident that there is a space, especially when this is often a copy and paste field.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168810EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T168810: Chomp leading and trailing spaces in Property:P742

2017-06-25 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONWhen adding pseudonyms to Property:P742 where there is a leading or trailing space on the pseudonym text entry, WD reports malformed input and doesn't accept the input.  It would be really useful if these spaces could be removed as part of the data entry rather than complaining about the data entry. It is not always evident that there is a space, especially when this is often a copy and paste field.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168810EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T158842: Update wording re associated Wikidata item following move

2017-06-09 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159104: Continue to increase the amount of Wikidata data in Wikisources

2017-05-20 Thread Billinghurst
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i would lile to see explored the means to map and data process


file starts at IA,
upload file as edition to Commons (usually, though it can be the WS) utilise {{book}}
create index page at the WS, and if gadget utilised then data fields in index are populated
work is transcribed... (time passes)
work is transcluded to main ns
then the wikidata items appears and is populated (often too briefly and it has to be after creation/transclusion to get wikilink in place for data flow)


For the WSes the wikidata item will usually be for the edition(s), whereas for the WPs it is the literary work (generally). [disconnect hinted at in task]

so i see that there is some good scope at WD to look at


internal to WD for literary work (parent) <-> edition tools to make that expansion better/easier/quicker
inhaling IA data and then being to apply it for a scan/index/book/edition


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T158842: Update wording re associated Wikidata item following move

2017-02-23 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONAt English Wikisource when a page is moved part of the message is

You should also update **the associated Wikidata item** to maintain language links on moved page.

(component in asterisks is a link to WD item)

and this component is added by the system.  With how the system has been updated, when moves are undertaken there is the update taking place at Wikidata under the account of the person undertaking the move.

Can the text be updated to better reflect today's reality?  I was thinking something like ...

Your move should now be **updated in the Wikidata item** language link, we ask that you confirm this has occurred.

Thanks for your consideration.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158842EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T155305: Wikidata watchlist is rendering weirdly

2017-01-20 Thread Billinghurst
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The issue seems more likely related to Wikidata's use of the files

Mediawiki:...
(watchlist-summary)
(watchlist-details) 
(wlheader-showupdated)

please apply https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist?uselang=qqx

and see if the issue exists there. Gut feel that there will be nothing wrong with the underlying mediawiki-watchlist componentTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155305EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, Liuxinyu970226, Jc86035, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T148279: Allow the history of deleted Wikidata items to be visible for a month

2017-01-08 Thread Billinghurst
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It would be useful to maybe do some to write item titles in the DR pages rather than just rely on the (uniformative) item number.  Is it possible to subst: something when a deletion request is being made?  I am not against the deletion and hiding of sensitive material, that is possible through all the wikis by other means.  At this stage the DR archives are next to  useless; hardly worth keeping them.

@Izno. I would have thought at a wiki that the context of a deletion should be visible for all users. Having CC0 does not equate to knowledge-0 and nobody should have to default to "ask an admin" for basic information for most items. That is against the principles of wiki-ism IMNSHOTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148279EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, abian, Wesalius, Izno, Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331, Sjoerddebruin, Aklapper, ChristianKl, D3r1ck01, Wikidata-bugs, aude___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T153186: Extra interwiki badge required at Wikidata for Wikisource works to show "digital" documents

2016-12-28 Thread Billinghurst
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There is a link to the community proposal in the request ... [[d:Wikidata talk:Wikisource]], and it was mentioned at [[s:en:Wikisource:Scriptorium]]. The commentary was negligible, though it probably had as much as when the original badges were set up.  I would say that there is reduced knowledge (and use) of the badges in WSes and that is reflected in the quiescent discussion.

The name, well I need it to represent digital documents at the WSes, how it is named and displayed in among all the other badges is not my decision, I see that as a broader community decision. It could be called "digital" or "digital documents" or some clear alternative.   There is no current system usage of the term at enWS, nor to my knowledge at the broader WSes; it is an understood term/concept, and, presumably, readily translatable.

For colour I said grey or blue , it just needs to be different.

For other projects, well probably less important at this stage.  There are already so many issues with the Wikisources getting functional interwikis due to editions <-> editions <-> editions <-> ...  matters being unresolved, among other things.  So I would see it as a lesser priority, though can progress simultaneously if desired.

At enWS primarily I am looking to have this utilised to display for badged works through a yet to be created use of . There is no current means to indicate digital documents in a schema that has its heart file scans and proofreading, and these works will not need traditional proofreading.

So I see something along the lines of a modification to our header template that where it detects a work badged as "digital" to display the designated iconography for that type of work.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152780: deploy new statement parser function and Lua function

2016-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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Also questions like if you pull an image, how would one apply formatting, like size the image?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152780: deploy new statement parser function and Lua function

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To complete the loop for those who follow the link to the phabricator ticket, can someone please point to where this is documented at Wikidata. Thanks.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152780EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: aude, BillinghurstCc: Billinghurst, Johan, Stashbot, gerritbot, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, aude, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, D3r1ck01, Samtar, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, TheDJ, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T153186: Extra interwiki badge required at Wikidata for Wikisource works to show "digital" documents

2016-12-14 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T153186: Extra interwiki badge required at Wikidata for Wikisource works to show "digital"documents

2016-12-14 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONThe current badges that exist for Wikisource interwikis are the traditional not proofread/proofread/validated/problematic that reflect the readiness of work through a transcription/proofing process.  This approach works well for old paper-published works. That approach, however, does not work for modern digital documents which come ready and where we need to demonstrate their status outside of the ordinary.  Accordingly I put that to the community here.

As the German Technical Information Library is looking to migrate open source works to the Wikisources, it is opportune to look to progress the matter.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T143292: Special:UnconnectedPages requires greater clarity about Wikidata linkage

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T143295: Special:UnconnectedPages requires filters to enable better use in Wikisources

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T143295: Special:UnconnectedPages requires filters to enable better use in Wikisources

2016-08-17 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONFor the Wikisources Special:UnconnectedPages does not give suitable granular information to get ready use of the pages.  There is a requirement for ready local filtering. Looking at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:UnconnectedPages  you can see that all subpages of works end up in a long list.


Ability to filter out subpages


For fiction works, it is unlikely that we would individually list chapters of a work, especially due to their naming of


(title)/Chapter 1
(title)/Chapter 2 ...
(title)/Chapter n


So one cannot see the woods for the trees of easily identifying that a work (title) has not been added, as 40 chapters inundate the root page of a work.


Complication of fiction vs non-fiction works.


As Wikisource replicates published works which themselves may be compilations, or have components of a work that are significant/notable in their own Wikidata sense, the subpages of non-fiction works can have their wikidata items, eg. works that are biographical dictionaries, or works that have a series of lectures.  So it is not a hard rule of subpages should not show, but ability to filter.  It would nice to be able to show the subpages that need items based on the parent work, however, that may be better undertaken by queries using other tools. [Would like to discuss that with someone who can help!]


Namespaces that are being collected


For the case of English Wikisource, in the general listing of UnconnectedPages I am seeing Page: namespace pages.  In the Mediawiki sense these come through appropriately as content namespaces pages as they are the content upon which we work.  That said they should not be seen in unconnected pages as their content is put into the main namespace by means of transclusion, and should not be linked as items in WD, ie. a specific page of a work/ content lacks notability and would not be linked from WD.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143295EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T143292: Special:UnconnectedPages requires greater clarity about Wikidata linkage

2016-08-17 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTIONThe connection of Special:UnconnectedPages needs greater clarity that the special page and its collection is specifically about links from a namespace through to a wikidata item.

Each provided label is insufficient in its clarity


page title:


Special:UnconnectedPages is ambiguous, though I accept it set nowadays


link text from Special:SpecialPages


Pages not connected to items   could have some clarity like  Pages not connected to Wikidata items


Text on Special:SpecialPages itself says

Pages not connected to items

This page lists pages with no connected data item (in namespaces that support connected items). The list is sorted by descending page ID, so that newer pages are listed first.


whereas this could at least mention Wikidata and have some useful links to what is a data item, and their addition at Wikidata.  Of course there is a shared responsibility for sites to have a local page that explains the local policy for item linking, and an endpoint link to WD that explains how the task is undertaken.As such, I would think that a local link page of something like [[Project:Wikidata]] could have something like {{int:wikidatalocalprojectlink}} or whatever suits your nomenclature (or something that has an item itself).  Having such a link encourages the project to get its house in order for linking, and enables local language itself.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143292EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: BillinghurstCc: Aklapper, Billinghurst, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T110604: [Story] Notification: Add notification when page is being connected to Wikidata

2016-08-02 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

2016-03-14 Thread Billinghurst
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  @gymel What you are describing is related to a topic/subject, not so much a 
work. Each article would be articulated on the Q-item as "described by source" 
and links can be provided to each currently.  For example for an author, you 
could call each "described by ..." by use of $1 to $9, etc. in a template to 
call back each value listed in the link.
  
  As I see your commentary it relates to a work about a subject related to 
another work about the same subject. I don't see that if I have an article on a 
person in the (English) Dictionary of National Biography that  the DNB article 
has a direct relationship/interest in a Russian encyclopaedia about the same 
person, and vice versa.
  
  If that is not what you mean, then I am not getting the gist of your argument.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

2016-03-13 Thread Billinghurst
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  In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173#2116148, @Gymel wrote:
  
  > Just to give the issue another twist, here is something in between the 
original issue (different editions) and that mentioned by Purodha:
  >
  > For  Tóbiás Coberus https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q868104 exists one 
"person" article in hungarian Wikipedia, and two transcribed articles from 
biographic encyclopedias in German wikisource: 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21235363 (ADB article) and 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23020668 (BLKÖ article). The items are in 
Wikidata related by properties https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P921 and 
inversely by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P1343 (indirectly with 
qualifier!).
  >
  > The task would be to provide the Wikisource view of one of these biography 
articles with links to (at least) the "corresponding" Wikipedia articles, since 
the articles themselves are just biography entries in nature, so quite 
comparable.
  
  
  Definitely not the "Described by source" and "Main subject" relationship.  
They are associated though no direct relationship between separately published 
works about a subject.   This ticket is about the direct relationship between a 
work and its editions or its translations, and the second generation 
relationship between an edition in one language, and a translation in another 
(as an interlanguage link).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128710: Create a Lua infobox template for books that use wikidata metadata based on work/edition

2016-03-04 Thread Billinghurst
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  The current lua modules can call the pertinent data into templates, so not 
understanding why another module makes a difference, or improvement.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T123813: Update wikidata badges config for "featured portal" item

2016-01-15 Thread Billinghurst
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Noting that there has been a revert 
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q17580674=next=289383114


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T123813: Update wikidata badges config for "featured portal" item

2016-01-15 Thread Billinghurst
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adding @multichill who reverted


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

2015-12-21 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

2015-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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@nemo_bis Nowhere did I say that it was not requested, nor unwanted, however, 
it becomes all or nothing per community, and in our history we have provided 
things called user preferences to allow users to configure what they see.

Thousands have opted in, and thousands (more?!?) have not.   I am only asking 
that it continue to be optional per user and the comment is "arguably little 
gain" and I don't see that as an appropriate response, terse and unsupported by 
commentary to justify.

Preferences may or may not be "bad" is a vague and weak argument for not 
exploring the option or stating how or why they should not take place.

The process about communities getting notified, and the defaults, and what 
happens needs to be fixed, as this regularly comes up, and that belongs in a 
bug of its own. While it is unresolved, it continues to be a bugbear and a 
point of weakness/inflammation/conflagration.

The language was not meant to be aggressive, use of second person rather than 
more generic. Apologies if it seemed that way.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

2015-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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It should not be all in or all out. I would much prefer that this is within the 
scope of the individual in what they see, not enforcing more components into 
sidebars,  Please have a configuration option for a user to turn it on and off; 
and the means for a community to set a default which a community can set their 
preference.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T103102: [Story] Take in other projects sidebar out of beta features

2015-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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Little gain?  For whom?

You are forcing communities to choose, which usually puts unhappiness into the 
losing part of any consensus. You are also practically forcing this to the 
default ON, yet where are the results of the use in beta that this there is a 
consensus that this is desired.  In fact prior to taking this to rollout that 
this is desired by the broader community? I instead see the conversation that 
it is stable.

This continued forcing of more things collectively into sidebars has to stop at 
some spot until there is more flexibility for sidebars, and more easily 
manipulated, especially with orders of groups. Developers seem to can forget 
that many do not have the skills to customise through code, and the preferences 
is meant to make it easy, and now the developers don't see that value?

I repeat that

- It should be an option for users to turn it on or off in their preferences
- Communities should have the ability to set it as their default ON or OFF, 
which users can then themselves manipulate. Communities should not have to go 
cap in hand to Wikidata for that configuration.

If that cannot happen then maybe it should not rollout.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86755: [Bug] Preview gadget no longer working in new sitelinks UI

2015-11-12 Thread Billinghurst
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@aude Thanks I will follow through in that regard.

Noting that today I have accessed WD preview.js through my Firefox on my 
laptop, and it doesn't show as as slide in, it shows as a weird section between 
the top data section and the lower links section.  Noting that on this small 
screen laptop I don't get the column effect that I get with my large screen  
(both Firefox browser)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86755: [Bug] Preview gadget no longer working in new sitelinks UI

2015-11-12 Thread Billinghurst
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and that makes no difference

F2957251: Aude-preview.js output.png 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F2957251>


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86755: [Bug] Preview gadget no longer working in new sitelinks UI

2015-11-12 Thread Billinghurst
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@lydia_pintscher thanks for pointing me to this bug.

To note that I have never been able to get the preview functioning for English 
Wikisource link.  When the preview is clicked, I have an ellipsis and a read 
more link.  I am presuming that the lack of display is some component of the 
template header that English Wikisource uses for its author and main namespaces.

If someone wishes to have a look, there is a suitable link at   
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1081777


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86755: [Bug] Preview gadget no longer working in new sitelinks UI

2015-11-12 Thread Billinghurst
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though ptWS does give a little F2957260: Aude-preview.js output ptws.png 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F2957260>


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T86755: [Bug] Preview gadget no longer working in new sitelinks UI

2015-11-12 Thread Billinghurst
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@aude Special mediawiki!!!   It is the similar issue we see with hovercards, 
and popups. I was hoping for some magic. Seems that I need to add a phabricator 
card. Would that be logged against the api?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113444: For the Wikisources, remove each languages Page: namespace from Special:UnconnectedPages

2015-09-23 Thread Billinghurst
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@jayvdb. Aware of that, though for me that works for Index ns ++. I see no 
value for Page ns where UNLESS there is a per wiki or per user default 
capacity. Page: = not notable namespace.

Separately considering subpage filtering but that will be later discussion.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T113444: For the Wikisources, remove each languages Page: namespace from Special:UnconnectedPages

2015-09-22 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T113444: For the Wikisources, remove each languages Page: namespace from Special:UnconnectedPages

2015-09-22 Thread Billinghurst
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  At the Wikisources, [[Special:UnconnectedPages]] is showing pages in the 
Page: namespace (for enWS) and correspondingly named namespaces at the other 
language WSes.  The Page: namespace is a work area at the Wikisources, and none 
of these pages would normally be linked to a Wikidata item (ie. don't meet 
notability). 
  
  Basically Special:UnconnectedPages is swamped and its usefulness obliterated 
through the number of Page: ns pages that are being transcribed and filling the 
last 500.  Can we please look to ignore the Page: ns for that special page.
  
  
  Note
  * For later wikisources, the Page: ns has a standardised ns:ddd, however, for 
many of the earlier WSes there is no existing standardisation (though there is 
a task in Phabricator to achieve that).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97014: [Task] Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-08-26 Thread Billinghurst
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[I will try and take my nuff-nuff questions off-phab, as maybe it is about my 
expectations, and I will have a look to see how the WPs handle these matters.]  
Yes, I am wishing to automate as much as possible out of Wikidata in 
presentation terms. The community is discussing pulling more data from WD for 
our header templates, and just need to find someone LUA proficient to guide us.

As I will now have a few thousand works to update their proofread status, I had 
a look at Widar stuff to see how I might be able to utilise it to do the badge 
statuses.  I couldn't work out which bits to utilise update the claims against 
the interwikis, and don't see it mentioned on the help pages. Can you please 
give some direction on that matter. Thanks.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T97014: [Task] Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-08-25 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97014: [Task] Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-08-25 Thread Billinghurst
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@aude or anyone,

Can you tell me (or point out some documentation) on how I now use this at 
Wikisource to populate an icon for a featured text, etc.  At the moment at enWS 
we utilise a template {{featured}}.  I am not sure whether we now link that 
template to the field against the wikilink or what. Thanks.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T109038: [Bug] Users are unable to login on wikidata.org until they clear their cookies

2015-08-14 Thread Billinghurst
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A site notice would probably be really useful for WD users telling them what to 
do (yes, old technology)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T108999: unable to add interlanguage links due to failing to log into central data repository

2015-08-13 Thread Billinghurst
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Can you separately log into the Wikipedia?

Are you logged into other wikis, eg. Commons?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T97014: Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-08-03 Thread Billinghurst
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Hmm. I don't think that the old 0/25/50/75/100 is going to work.

VALIDATION STATUS

We have ...

Works supported by scans, and there are three basic states

- Transcription in progress  (aka not proofread, or incomplete)  (1)
- Transcription completed  (2)
- Transcription completed and validated  (3)

Works not supported by scans

- Presented from alternate source (and this could be broken down to many 
subsets)
- Digital documents (4)

To me, I would only be looking to generate those marked () as an initial 
phase as I believe that they are accepted across all the WS, though happy to 
hear argument to the contrary (@micru @aubrey).

1 traditionally is something RED
2 traditionally is AMBER
3 traditionally is GREEN

4 has been tossed around, though I would argue that it is the same as 3 and 
should be GREEN.

If you want to keep it simple, just use coloured dots, and we can substitute in 
community-approved icons.  The colours appear as ribbons above works, so 
usually mean something to the community.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97014: Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-08-03 Thread Billinghurst
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Meaning? A set of specific icons for use? Someone/some group to nominate?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97014: Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-06-04 Thread Billinghurst
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Featured text would be one that English Wikisource would utilise and has a 
long history of use, and equates with the FA componentry of the WPs. Iit would 
be used to add components to an article.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Featured_texts  (list and dates 
contained)

formatting at
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Featured


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T97014: Wikidata badges for Wikisource for validation status

2015-06-04 Thread Billinghurst
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Featured text would be one that English Wikisource would utilise and has a 
long history of use, and equates with the FA componentry of the WPs. Iit would 
be used to add components to an article.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Featured_texts  (list and dates 
contained)

formatting at
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Featured


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T100933: Make it impossible to use Special:NewItem with the same content for label and description

2015-05-31 Thread Billinghurst
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Via the submission page sounds like it would be more useful seeing that it is a 
very specific change to a very specific site.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T49930: Allow accessing data from a Wikidata item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking)

2015-05-13 Thread Billinghurst
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98756: Enable arbitrary access on Wikisource projects

2015-05-12 Thread Billinghurst
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yes @Lydia_Pintscher though this is tagged for Wikisource, so those netizens 
will take interest in what is being planned for their use.

In such a circumstance there would be value in adding some external links of 
the general idea for the communities' perusal. IMO always best to bring the 
communities with you and start the engagement early, rather than those who are 
suspicious feeling that something is being foiar upon them upon them.  So 
please add the corresponding link to wikidata pages FAQ/...


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98756: Enable arbitrary access on Wikisource projects

2015-05-11 Thread Billinghurst
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I am presuming that by arbitrary that this is usage of a reference point 
outside of the defined matching/target page.

If we are going to do that, it would probably be useful to explain the points, 
and the purpose from the WS point of view, rather than the technical means from 
the WD side.  [Simpler language for a community that probably still hasn't got 
its head wrapped around the concept and broader use of WD, ie. at the moment it 
adds work to add WD data, for no perceived local benefit at this time)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T802: Phabricator projects for Wikimedia sister projects

2014-12-20 Thread Billinghurst
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I will respond with my Wikisource hat on.

To this point of time there has been a broad  and shared approach to 
improvements to Wikisource in the cross-language community. We had one (joint) 
meetup at Wikimania, not per language. The communities are not excessive size, 
we have shared visions on numerous issues, be it improving participation, 
sources, tools, help pages, etc. We do have a couple of predominant communities 
developing Wikisource help content and having a space to specifically point to 
the project aspects would have an advantage to the smaller language wikis. In a 
means we have been undertaking some project coordination at mulWS, and via 
Wikisource-L, a project tool makes more sense for numbers of components.  We 
have a history of a cooperative approach, and shared success, and sharing 
skills to new wikis in assisting their set-up.  We have seen some language 
wikis act run pilots, with adaptation by wikis of tools and scripts, and again, 
this seems something that a project-based approach in Phabricator can nicely
emphasise, record, and have an improved approach to proactively share.

We have tracked bugs successfully in bugzilla using the one ticket. I think 
that (with some guidance) we would look to wisely utilise and tag components, 
and see that your guidance is relevant across of all of phabricator, not just 
projects, and training and vigilance, and gentle prodding will make it work 
fine.

If it comes to subcommunities of WS, I would agree with your suggestion for 
nomenclature.


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Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikisource-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-05 Thread billinghurst
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:27:02 +0100, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com
wrote:
 About this:
 
 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:13 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Connecting new uploaded books with Wikidata: again this is very related
 to
 the above. As a first preparatory step, one GsoC of this year worked on
 using templates (like commons:Template:Book) directly with the
 UploadWizard. It generates the form according to a template, which in
 turn
 could create both a Wikidata item and a Wikisource page when the
uploaded
 file is a book. However this has been stalled due to this RFC on
Commons:


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/How_Commons_should_deal_with_TemplateData

 
 how this concerns us?
 
 Sorry, but I don't really understand this TemplateData issue.
 Uploading books directly from Wikisource (entering all the important
 metadata, that would go to Commons, Wikisource and Wikidata) is a
crucial
 *feature* that we absolutely need.
 What is the problem, here, specifically?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Aubrey

From my point of view, an upload form should be focused at Wikidata more
than at Commons, anything else is back-to-front.

If we are talking about a published work that it is published is its own
notability and transcends whether it is at Wikisource, Commons, or
Wikipedia, such that it is published makes it Wikidata-able (to coin a
word). We can easily support this statement as copyright alone will prevent
a work from appearing at Wikisource or WikiCommons, and similarly some
published works may not be individually notable for Wikipedia, but may be
so for other reference, thinking here of things that have a DOI.

*Then* comes the issue of which site wishes to utilise the data.  So
having Wikidata as the primary entry point to enter book data, and then
call it from other places as required seems the logical place to start for
any new work at any of the places.

Regards Billinghurst

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