[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-10-30T23:23:07Z]  Synchronized wmf-config/throttle.php: SWAT: [[gerrit:470624|Throttle lift for Wikidata event at University of Edinburgh]] T208236 (duration: 00m 54s)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Urbanecm, StashbotCc: Stashbot, gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread gerritbot
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Change 470624 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Throttle lift for Wikidata event at University of Edinburgh

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stinglehammer
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That's fair enough. Been a while since I last had to request this so had forgotten the process.
Will see if I can make a note of the steps involved so I can get this done in good time on next occasion.
Thanks for all your help on this anyway.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Urbanecm, StinglehammerCc: gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Urbanecm
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Okay, scheduled for deployment. I have to notify you that as this was requested without proper notice (we need to know about such events _at least a week_ in advance), I cannot guarantee this request will be fulfilled.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stinglehammer
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Have left message of Wikidata admin noticeboard alsoTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Urbanecm, StinglehammerCc: gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stinglehammer
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A few will have accounts but majority will not. Therefore can we go ahead please.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Urbanecm, StinglehammerCc: gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Urbanecm
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IIRC QuickStatements do not work with newbie accounts. It is currently not possible to change the newbie limit based on IP address (there's no proces for it). You can use Administrators' noticeboard to request things from admins.

If your users will have an account before the event, adding any throttle rule would be useless, as it affect only account creation phase. Please let me know if you need the throttle rule.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stinglehammer
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In T208236#4706618, @Urbanecm wrote:
BTW, we can only allow your participants to create 20 accounts from one IP address (cirumcimvent the six account limit). They will be still counted as newbie and will hit any newbie limits (8 edits per minute from one IP, counting all newbies from that IP together). If you want the software to stop applying newbie limits to some user, you can manually add "confirmed" flag to the users (any sysop can do it).

There are efforts to change this behaiviour, but this is how it is now.


Great thanks. If I want these new accounts to work with Quickstatements by way of a facilitated demo then I think we may want the newb limit lifted if possible. If the users create accounts tonight/tomorrow can I message a sysops on Wikidata project chat (or wikimedia-tech page) to see about getting these user accounts confirmed?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Urbanecm, StinglehammerCc: gerritbot, Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jayprakash12345, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Urbanecm
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BTW, we can only allow your participants to create 20 accounts from one IP address (cirumcimvent the six account limit). They will be still counted as newbie and will hit any newbie limits (8 edits per minute from one IP, counting all newbies from that IP together). If you want the software to stop applying newbie limits to some user, you can manually add "confirmed" flag to the users (any sysop can do it).

There are efforts to change this behaiviour, but this is how it is now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: UrbanecmCc: Urbanecm, Dereckson, Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread gerritbot
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Change 470624 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; owner: Urbanecm):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Throttle lift for Wikidata event at University of Edinburgh

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stinglehammer
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In addition:

"Wireless users do not get a unique public ip when the access the outside world. All the wireless users have their private addresses PAT'ed when leaving the University of Edinburgh network."TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StinglehammerCc: Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-30 Thread Stinglehammer
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Hi, IT helpdesk have advised as follows:

"The public ranges we use for wireless are the following,

Network 192.41.128.0 255.255.252.0  which is 192.41.128.1 to 192.41.131.255
Also IP address range  192.41.125.253 - 255"TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StinglehammerCc: Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Zoranzoki21, LawExplorer, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Urbanecm, JEumerus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Wong128hk, Luke081515, SimmeD, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, aude, Dcljr, Jdforrester-WMF, Matanya, Mbch331, Rxy, Jay8g, Krenair___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-29 Thread Stinglehammer
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Checking with our IT helpdesk as to whether this is the case. Possibly a new account issue if so.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StinglehammerCc: Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-29 Thread Platonides
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If each user is given a different public IP, there shouldn't be throttling problems...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: PlatonidesCc: Platonides, Aklapper, Stinglehammer, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T208236: IP unblock requested for 20 new accounts being created at University of Edinburgh Wikidata event.

2018-10-29 Thread Stinglehammer
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Time window would be 11am to 3pm GMTTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208236EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StinglehammerCc: Aklapper, Stinglehammer, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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