Re: [Wikidata-l] Arbitrary access is coming to the first wikis
Hello all,
Can I please ask anyone to not use things like {{#property}} in articles on
nlwiki? There is no consensus about this and things like that should only be
used in templates, not the articles themselves. If you want to experiment,
please do that in your own namespace.
Thanks,
Sjoerd de Bruin
sjoerddebr...@me.com
Op 11 mei 2015, om 16:13 heeft Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de
het volgende geschreven:
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de mailto:lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
When using data from Wikidata on Wikipedia and other sister projects
there is currently a limitation in place which hinders some use cases.
Data can only be accessed from the corresponding item. So for example
the article about Berlin can only get data from the item about Berlin
but not from the item about Germany. This had technical reasons. On
Monday we will remove this limitation on the first wikis. This will be
Dutch Wikipedia and French Wikisource. (More will follow over the next
weeks. We hope to have it rolled out nearly everywhere by the end of
June.) We invite you to play around with this new feature if you are
one of the people who have been waiting for this for a long time. If
you have technical issues/questions with this you can come to
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team
A note of caution: Please be careful with how many items you use for a
single page. If it is too many page loading might get slow. We will
have to see how the feature behaves in production to see where we need
to tweak and how.
How to use it once it is enabled:
* Parser function: {{#property:capital|from=Q183}} to get the capital
from the item about Germany
* Lua: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Client/Lua
Cheers
Lydia, who is very happy this is finally getting out
This has now happened. Arbitrary access is live on Dutch Wikipedia and
French Wikisource. Wohoo!
Cheers
Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Can we make this item a featured one?
Hi, Items about food are a little bit hard at the moment. There is a lack of special statements. I think most properties that are needed require units. We're still waiting for that. Sjoerd Op 6 mei 2015 om 22:23 heeft Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi all, Can we expand this item in such way that this can be a featured item: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q267877 ? What properties can be added to make this sufficient to feature? I think the subject is excellent for this as it is a worldwide food. Thanks! Romaine ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata
Now the gender game is working again, I encountered there were a lot of issues with the following category: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Danceact https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Danceact As you can see, it's about musical groups but they all were marked as human. Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 14 mrt. 2015, om 14:18 heeft Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: I'm writing a parser so I can feed gender classification to Kian, It'll be done soon and you can use it :) On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:53 PM Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com wrote: Hm, the Wikidata Game is really slow. Magnus, if you read this: do you know what's going on? I play the gender game with only nlwiki articles, but it never loads. It was working yesterday with just 50 items, so it should work now imo. Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 14 mrt. 2015, om 09:39 heeft Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com het volgende geschreven: I've corrected two lists (Lijst van voorzitters van de SER and Lijst van voorzitters van de WRR) and a music group (Viper (Belgische danceact)). Will play the gender game the next few days to check them. Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 14 mrt. 2015, om 00:51 heeft Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Sorry for the late answer, got busy in the real world. This is the result for unconnected pages of Dutch Wikipedia. http://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_nl.txt http://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_nl.txt Please check and tell me when they are not human. I'm producing result for empty items related to Dutch Wikipedia. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:58 PM Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, tonight it will be done. Best On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com wrote: I'm ready for it! All existing humans on nlwiki have a gender now, so it's easy to review this batch. Bring it on. Op 11 mrt. 2015, om 22:14 heeft Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl mailto:maar...@mdammers.nl het volgende geschreven: Hi Amir, Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 9-3-2015 om 22:40: Result for English Wikipedia (6366 articles classified as human) https://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_en.txt Sounds like fun! Can you run it on the Dutch Wikipedia too? On https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt I have a list of items without claims (linking them to other items). Maarten ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Amir ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata
Hm, the Wikidata Game is really slow. Magnus, if you read this: do you know what's going on? I play the gender game with only nlwiki articles, but it never loads. It was working yesterday with just 50 items, so it should work now imo. Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 14 mrt. 2015, om 09:39 heeft Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com het volgende geschreven: I've corrected two lists (Lijst van voorzitters van de SER and Lijst van voorzitters van de WRR) and a music group (Viper (Belgische danceact)). Will play the gender game the next few days to check them. Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 14 mrt. 2015, om 00:51 heeft Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Sorry for the late answer, got busy in the real world. This is the result for unconnected pages of Dutch Wikipedia. http://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_nl.txt http://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_nl.txt Please check and tell me when they are not human. I'm producing result for empty items related to Dutch Wikipedia. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:58 PM Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, tonight it will be done. Best On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com mailto:sjoerddebr...@me.com wrote: I'm ready for it! All existing humans on nlwiki have a gender now, so it's easy to review this batch. Bring it on. Op 11 mrt. 2015, om 22:14 heeft Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl mailto:maar...@mdammers.nl het volgende geschreven: Hi Amir, Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 9-3-2015 om 22:40: Result for English Wikipedia (6366 articles classified as human) https://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_en.txt Sounds like fun! Can you run it on the Dutch Wikipedia too? On https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt I have a list of items without claims (linking them to other items). Maarten ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Amir ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata
I'm ready for it! All existing humans on nlwiki have a gender now, so it's easy to review this batch. Bring it on. Op 11 mrt. 2015, om 22:14 heeft Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl het volgende geschreven: Hi Amir, Amir Ladsgroup schreef op 9-3-2015 om 22:40: Result for English Wikipedia (6366 articles classified as human) https://tools.wmflabs.org/dexbot/kian_res_en.txt Sounds like fun! Can you run it on the Dutch Wikipedia too? On https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt https://tools.wmflabs.org/multichill/queries/wikidata/noclaims_nlwiki.txt I have a list of items without claims (linking them to other items). Maarten ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next Wikidata office hour
Reminder: this is tomorrow! Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 7 jan. 2015, om 20:25 heeft Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de het volgende geschreven: Hey folks :) I'll be doing another office hour for Wikidata on IRC next Friday at 18:00 UTC. It'll happen in #wikimedia-office on Freenode IRC. Everyone is welcome for discussions and question answering. Logs will be posted afterwards. For your timezone see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18min=00sec=0day=16month=01year=2015 Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] input for article placeholder
Hello everyone, Sure: Reasonator is a great example, but converting the whole code is taking more time then making new stuff. You just can't intergrate it. Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 30 dec. 2014, om 16:31 heeft Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: At this step queries are planned https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Development_plan https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Development_plan I guess placeholder articles are lower in Lydia's list, this seems only a preliminar steps. So it's not stupid to assume they will be ready. I read your blog a long time, including your posts about reasonator. I'm on this project for as long as you, I hope you know that. I just don't see your point, nor a clear answer. And I don't want to guess. 2014-12-30 15:59 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Until Wikidata provides query functionality, any arguments about it are without much merit. Until that time WDQ provides functionality. That functionality can be implemented in new functionality when it arrives. As to the question if I know Reasonator ... Read my blog ... [1] Thanks, GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/ On 30 December 2014 at 14:08, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com mailto:thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Do you speak for the community ?? Nope, I speak for myself. Nether told anything else. Do you really know what Reasonator is about ? I don't really appreciate the tone, I think reasonator is really cool and I'm probably one of the people who pushed its use the most in Wikidata. Do you have a useful answer to your own question ? One point is that Reasonator uses Wikidata query, who, last time I checked, was not planned to be integrated into Wikibase. Wikibase will have its own query engine. It would be a giant software architecture mess if the core mediawiki/wikibase depends on external query engine. 2014-12-30 13:48 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, One of the requisites as mentioned on the page by Lydia is that it is usable on any and all projects. Relying on local only technoloy like templates do not make sense. Reasonator DOES provide functionality that is similar to what can be achieved with templating. When a person has relatives, for instance it will show. When something is in a particular location, it will show the hierarchy. when there is a geo coordinate, it shows a map, Now citing political reasons begs the question since when our community decides NOT to implement things that are so manifestly in line what our mission. When you consider in build queries... That is what Reasonator offers for a long long time. Do you really know what Reasonator is about ? Do you speak for the community ?? Thanks, GerardM On 30 December 2014 at 13:30, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com mailto:thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gerard, I like Reasonator a lot, but there is several advantages to an integrated solution : * We can reuse technologies of the mediawiki ecosystem, like for example a very important one : templates, that are already used an that a lot of wikimedians knows. It can be used to build template articles. I don't know if reasonator atm had a lot of contributions. It needs a github or something account and Javascript knowledge. * community is reluctant to use not in wiki tools for such needs, it's politically hard to push Reasonator integration into Wikidata fundamental templates, I can tell. * A solution based on prebuilt queries to select the appropriate template seems not so hard to implement only with Wikibase concepts, and deeply integrated to the mediawiki ecosystem, integrate Reasonator will probably eventually not result into such result. And yes, Reasonator is usable right now. So it's cool that this feature is not implemented right now :) And reasonator can follow its own path. 2014-12-30 12:28 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, You also forget that it HAS been in use on several Wikipedias in the past. So when that was no problem why is it a problem that can not be overcome now and for now? Thanks, GerardM On 30 December 2014 at 12:15, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, They are mostly excuses. The software has been in use for a LONG time. It is known for its relevance for the same long time.. So the value of this need is diminished by the lack of attention in the past. The point is that these excuses are very much in the way of us achieving our goal.. sharing in the sum of all knowledge. The knowledge in Wikidata is available knowledge to us so we
Re: [Wikidata-l] Super Lachaise, a mobile app based on Wikidata
Not available in the Dutch iTunes Store... Op 28 okt. 2014 om 15:26 heeft Pierre-Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudo...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: I'm happy to announce the release of Super Lachaise on the App Store. It's a free mobile app that help you during the visit of the Père Lachaise cemetery. This is probably one of the firsts mobile apps to use Wikidata ;) http://www.superlachaise.fr/ https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/super-lachaise/id918263934 Pyb ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Weird graphical problem
No, it's not just you. Please report it. :) Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin Op 10 sep. 2014, om 15:18 heeft Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com het volgende geschreven: Is this just affecting me, or is this something that I ought to report on Bugzilla? https://i.imgur.com/zzdGNYs.png The search bar on Wikidata appears to not actually be where it appears but just below that. Took me a few minutes to realize that is where it ended up. Looks around using Firebug I can’t see a good reason it would appear there, making me think maybe it’s just an issue with some addon I have in Firefox 32.0. Its persistent between pages. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages
You can add a babel template to your user page, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjoerddebruin#Babel ;) Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 19 aug. 2014, om 19:15 heeft Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com het volgende geschreven: Is there a better way to get at more items in the In Other Languages section than to change the interface language with ?setlang= ? I had an item I wanted to give the name in Italian for (it was mentioned in the English Wikipedia article) and I discovered that the only way I could find to get access to the form field for Italian name was to change Wikidata to Italian. I didn't see anything immediately upon Googling. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Summary #122
Hello, So we have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1441 now. What's the difference between that property and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1080 ? Greetings, Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 17 aug. 2014, om 15:27 heeft John Lewis johnflewi...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hi everyone, You can view the latest summary at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/2014_08_16. Discussions Open RfOS: John F. Lewis Other Noteworthy Stuff Help choose which banner will be featured on the new Main page! Click here to view the two banner candidates and leave your feedback before August 20th 16:00 UTC. Wikidata Translate, a Wikidata-based Google translator open source clone. Did you know? Newest properties: journey destination, score method, grave picture, present in work, Fide ID, Norsk filmografi ID, Jewish Encyclopedia ID, plea, collection size Newest WikiProjects: WikiProject Movies Development Finished a large number of new features and got them ready for roll-out. More in this email. Wikibase made a big step forward to finally switch to DataModel 1.0. Improved support for entity IDs bigger than 2 billion (32 bit integer). We had to adapt Wikibase to some major changes (more major than usual, partly caused by discussions at Wikimania) in MediaWiki core: The default Vector skin became it’s own component and the ResourceLoader got some small but important updates. Continued work on refactoring code of the user interface to make it ready for new design Wrote a script to get number of users having wikidata in their recent changes/watchlist from the database See current sprint items for what we’re working on next. You can see all open bugs related to Wikidata here Monthly Tasks Hack on one of these. Help fix these items which have been flagged using Wikidata - The Game. Help develop the next summary here! Contribute to a Showcase item ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108
Hey everyone, It's quite annoying every time I want to use a item, but it has no Dutch label. So it doesn't show up if you want to use it with like adding statements. Fallback is a big thing. Greetings, Sjoerd Op 4 mei 2014 om 22:50 heeft Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Hoi, When you see a label in Reasonator, you will find that when it is not in *YOUR* language, it is underlined in red. You can hover over a label and you will be prompted to add a label in the named language. ONLY your language. Wikidata being Wikidata can provide the option as it already does to see multiple labels for the languages as selected in the #Babel template. That is the obvious place to see and edit labels in multiple languages. When you think that language fallback in Reasonator is easy, it is very much because the options have been considered properly. It does provide fall back in a user specified manner. It does show all the labels used for an item but it does NOT provide an option to edit them. It could, but this is left for Wikidata itself just like adding statements has been left to Wikidata. There are three parts to an item in Wikidata. Labels, statements and links. It is best imho not to complicate things and leave this partition in place. Thanks, GerardM On 4 May 2014 22:17, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 04.05.2014 09:00, schrieb Lydia Pintscher: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Where are we with fallback languages? I did a session for new editors with Magnus last weekend and one of the questions that came up was why one of the students couldn't see most of the labels - he had his language set to British English. He asked why there was no fallback to international English. The status is that we have a plan for the next steps. I realize it is important but currently not doable in the next say 3 months. I would like to add some information about why language fallback is not as easily done as it may seem. Fallback for *display* is simple enough (as reasonator proves) - but we allow editing, which makes this much harder. Consider the case of a user with their language set to en-gb, but seeing a label in en due to fallback. What should happen if they click edit? Which label will they be editing, the en one or the en-gb one? They should really be able to do both, and the consequences of their edit should be obvious to them. When automatic transliteration comes into play, as is the case with some chinese variants, things become more complex still. This is not impossible to solve (e.g. by showing edit boxes for all the relevant variants, with some additional information), but needs careful design. This cannot be done overnight. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
