[WikiEducator] Re: help required
Dear Blackall,these articles are very much informatic.thanks. On Jun 8, 11:06 am, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hizbullah Perhaps you will find the emerging field of Networked Learning of interest. It relates to the enthusiasm in the West for socially constructed media and communications (otherwise known as Web 2.0), and historically related to social constructivism. It is the idea that when many individuals have access to information and opportunities to communicate with many other people with similar interests, that their learning has a greater chance of being enhanced. Much like what you are doing now. Here is a link to many readings and resourceshttp://del.icio.us/leighblackall/networkedlearningthat I have been collecting on the topic of Networked Learning in the age of Internet and ICTs. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Hizbullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi sir, im going to write my desertation on usage of ICT in Higher education,i belong from pakistan,and here Higher Education Commssion (HEC)www.hec.gov.pkhas launch many Projects Regarding ICT from 2002 in the universities, i want to see that what is output of these projects,is teachers students are satisified from these efforts,and how much benefit they are getting and what change is made by these ICT Projects. sir if u have some time kindly help me,that how and from where i start my research,which title is best for this study, what kind of study i have required.which books,research papers and other material is required. Regards. Hizbullah Ms (STP) Research Student Mehran UET Jamshoro Pakistan On Jun 7, 3:00 am, Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hisbullah, Please can you make it a bit more clearer about your requirements ? There are different target groups as well as different levels of education such as a school. Even in education, in what context are you planning to use ICT? To achieve what objectives? Hope you understand what I mean. Regards Godfrey On Jun 4, 5:56 pm, Hizbullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, hope u all fine thewre, i have reqiured some material regarding the usage of ICT in education sector, if someone help me i would b thakful. regard Hizbullah MS (STP)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Questions and collaboration
Hi Randy, Big thanks for this! Sure I´m interested in collab, isn´t wiki about it? Still finding my way around, so I´m a little bit uncertain yet. Rather parasitical in terms of technology , AKA user, so you can´t expect much from me there, except maybe in terms of interface/cognition/user research (?). Amateur multilingual radio broadcasting on a free station years ago re “North-South”, but … We all speak English here but may assign different cultural meanings to the same words and/or try to express mainstream for a variety of reasons (from aiming at improving understanding to the assumption that there is no real interest in understanding, fear of self-betrayal discrimination, etc); and thus prevent rather than improve cross-cultural communication smile. Plead guilty as both recipient producer of messages LAUGH. Doesn´t it happen to a certain extent in our daily lives re the boss, neighbour…? On the other hand how do you express cultures in wiki format? · It may not be feasible to touch or taste them online (yet), but what about “sounds of cultures/ How does your culture sound”? Something so basic as 2/3 min audio WE local Englishes other member languages, just reading or summarizing wiki contents or project goals, can be highly enlightening for all, fair to monolingual speakers the visually impaired. Seems easier to get hold of a mic than a cam and words on their own convey so much. This could also be useful for teacher handouts in cultural diversity ESOL. · Building on the above, Polyphonic English: Tell us about your English. How do you feel in English? What are the differences with your other language(s)? Ever felt there are no words or that meaning is “lost”? Dual belonging? Switch-coding? Relationship to language(s) is highly personal/subjective, let us hear about it. Does your body language change? Which limitations do you find when dealing with other English speakers? Any topics you find out of place to address in English/your other language(s)? Gee, I sometimes think I suffer from “double/nomadic personality”! · Performing cultures. The wide range of cultures within WE seem interesting grounds towards analysis of culture “from below” rather than traditional academic assumptions, starting with those tiny daily acts we normally give for granted: Colours, flavours, fabrics, spaces, gestures, rhythms, sounds… Sensory appreciation is key to enhance awareness reflexivity, esp. taking into account non-textual cultures. The above seems in line with WE member interests (?) aimed at enriching existing contents. Otherwise I’d probably go for something far more radical linked to my current research smile. Cheers, Alex De: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Randy Fisher Enviado el: miércoles, 04 de junio de 2008 18:35 Para: wikieducator@googlegroups.com CC: Brent; Ram Bhat Asunto: [WikiEducator] Re: Questions and collaboration Hi Alex, Are you aware of the Community Media node on WikiEducator? Right now we are focusing on radio as part of Community Media, but certainly audio fits into that If you are thinking of collaboration, please think of how we can leverage this across the nodes: WE, Culture, Community Media, etc. http://www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media I have cc'd this note to a couple of colleagues in the Community Radio field.do let us know if there are things we can consider together. Randy On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alex -- Good thoughts -- Ultimately I think the communities and languages will self organise in ways that are going to work for them. There is a view in the wiki community that you shouldn't separate languages into separate language installations. I think there a benefits to this approach as well. In fact there are a growing number of non-English pages in the English WE -- I think that's great because we benefit from a community of support. The disadvantage is the risk of linguistic imperialism. Clearly audio is vitally important for expression of culture and learning. WE hasn't done much with audio yet -- I guess largely because its difficult to edit audio collaboratively as a community. However -- with the Kaltura collaborative video editing, we might see growth in this area. Do you have any ideas how to encourage, promote and support audio collaborations? Cheers Wayne On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 11:42 +0200, Alex P. Real wrote: Many thanks for the detailed response. Sorry where I've been hype. In terms of language divide, I´m not sure localization is initially the best solution for Spanish-speakers, our beautiful language can be more divisive than unifying. If you have a look at wikiversidad (Sp wikiversity) or Wikipedia itself, fairly small in comparison to speaker No with ICT English
[WikiEducator] Building a Better Wiki Resurce for My Colleagues
I have spent the last 2 years as an Instructional Technology Specialist and have come to the conclusion that a comprehensive resource is needed in order to have teachers who are just begining to use or integrate technology find resources quickly. I have provided resources for integration, by category and subject area, offered simple integration strategies, linked to the 21st Century skills and NETS and correlated lessons ideas for those. The big thing for the inexperienced integrator is start small and build up to the bigger or more complex strategies. I hope that my teachers can utilize this wiki and recognize that wiki creation is a great tool for classroom content integration. This is the site, thought that I would share http://web20guru.wikispaces.com If you know of any teachers that can use this tool, share away!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone
Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the rigour of an international agency like COL -- We are fortunate that we can institute a robust ME plan to objectively justify our success. Gee --- these are exciting times! Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:08 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Wayne et al, As we tally up the stats - it might be helpful if we have some kind of explanation as to why it has occurred. For example, in terms of numbers of active users...or edits, where there are spikes in the numbersa companion legend...I recall that when WE made the Print-to-PDF announcement, there was a spike in the numbersThis is important qualitative information to go with the quantitative stats. It also serves up important rallying points for community growth. - Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Declan and WE friends, In line with Mark Twain's famous quotation -- There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. ( http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html) -- Let's take a look at some of the WE stats. By comparable wiki standards, WikiEducator is a productive community and I hope that we get better at what we do. With BIG thanks to Jim Tittsler who spends cold Sunday's in Gisborne, NZ helping WE with his technical wizardry. Jim has adapted and run a script developed by Erik Zachte (http://infodisiac.com/) to analyse WE activity in a little more detail. We still need to run some validity tests on the accuracy of the figures -- so take this feedback as being provisional. As of 30 May 2008, Wikieducator has 573 accounts that have recorded more than 10 edits since they joined the project. 180 WikiEducators have been responsible for 83% of the total edits in Wikieducator. (At this is more than the 40 based on the 1% rule). That's about a third of the more active users (i.e. the 573 above.) These numbers are much higher than I expected -- well done WikiEducator! How does WikiEducator's productivity compare with other wiki
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hi, Am glad am on the list. Cannot compete since besides other things speeds are real low. Takes me forever and repeated tries to even make a minor edit. U can see the log to check this. Am depending on the community to solve this!! Cheers 2008/6/9 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the rigour of an international agency like COL -- We are fortunate that we can institute a robust ME plan to objectively justify our success. Gee --- these are exciting times! Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:08 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Wayne et al, As we tally up the stats - it might be helpful if we have some kind of explanation as to why it has occurred. For example, in terms of numbers of active users...or edits, where there are spikes in the numbersa companion legend...I recall that when WE made the Print-to-PDF announcement, there was a spike in the numbersThis is important qualitative information to go with the quantitative stats. It also serves up important rallying points for community growth. - Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Declan and WE friends, In line with Mark Twain's famous quotation -- There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. ( http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html) -- Let's take a look at some of the WE stats. By comparable wiki standards, WikiEducator is a productive community and I hope that we get better at what we do. With BIG thanks to Jim Tittsler who spends cold Sunday's in Gisborne, NZ helping WE with his technical wizardry. Jim has adapted and run a script developed by Erik Zachte (http://infodisiac.com/) to analyse WE activity in a little more detail. We still need to run some validity tests on the accuracy of the figures -- so take this feedback as being provisional. As of 30 May 2008, Wikieducator has 573 accounts that
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
While I agree with Leigh's inferred sentiments about Brian. This promotion begs a question for me. Should we be focusing on high bandwidth content at this time? Given what I perceive as the mission of WE to focus more on the developing world shouldn't our focus be on low bandwidth content? Shouldn't we focus on context, quality, infrastructure, localization and reuse issues? Before we focus on high- bandwidth technologies? And Yes, I do perceive Brian as a high-bandwidth guy... He increasingly enjoys and leverages high bandwidth technologies... My $0.02 worth, I certainly home Brian jumps into this discussion thread... Peter On Jun 7, 9:42 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yip -- I first met Brian when I joined Auckland uni back in 2002. Brian rocks. Brian knows about WE and has posted about us a few times on abject learning. We see each other about 2 or three times a year. We are planning to run an L4C workshop at UBC. BTW UBC are working on some impressive code for Mediawiki for aggregating courses through RSS. This is something we might be able to implement in the future. The downside is that UBC is a very traditional and conservative uni - -so having examples of progressive IP policies are important beacons smile. Cheers W On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 20:42 +1200, Leigh Blackall wro http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/brian/archives/046602.php -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hi Savithri, No worries, this is not a competition, it just lies in the nature of the things we all are doing and once you get more involved, this will automatically increase. Thank you very much for your contributions. They have been great. Warmest, Patricia From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Savithri Singh Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:03 AM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone Hi, Am glad am on the list. Cannot compete since besides other things speeds are real low. Takes me forever and repeated tries to even make a minor edit. U can see the log to check this. Am depending on the community to solve this!! Cheers 2008/6/9 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the rigour of an international agency like COL -- We are fortunate that we can institute a robust ME plan to objectively justify our success. Gee --- these are exciting times! Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:08 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Wayne et al, As we tally up the stats - it might be helpful if we have some kind of explanation as to why it has occurred. For example, in terms of numbers of active users...or edits, where there are spikes in the numbersa companion legend...I recall that when WE made the Print-to-PDF announcement, there was a spike in the numbersThis is important qualitative information to go with the quantitative stats. It also serves up important rallying points for community growth. - Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Declan and WE friends, In line with Mark Twain's famous quotation -- There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. ( http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html) -- Let's take a look at some of the WE stats. By comparable wiki standards, WikiEducator is a productive community and I hope that we get better at what we do. With BIG thanks to
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hello All, I certainly hope my last post regarding competitive WE editing was taken tongue-in-cheek... What is so great about WE is its supportive and non-competitive community... Peter On Jun 9, 9:27 am, Patricia Schlicht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Savithri, No worries, this is not a competition, it just lies in the nature of the things we all are doing and once you get more involved, this will automatically increase. Thank you very much for your contributions. They have been great. Warmest, Patricia From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Savithri Singh Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:03 AM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone Hi, Am glad am on the list. Cannot compete since besides other things speeds are real low. Takes me forever and repeated tries to even make a minor edit. U can see the log to check this. Am depending on the community to solve this!! Cheers 2008/6/9 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the rigour of an international agency like COL -- We are fortunate that we can institute a robust ME plan to objectively justify our success. Gee --- these are exciting times! Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:08 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Wayne et al, As we tally up the stats - it might be helpful if we have some kind of explanation as to why it has occurred. For example, in terms of numbers of active users...or edits, where there are spikes in the numbersa companion legend...I recall that when WE made the Print-to-PDF announcement, there was a spike in the numbersThis is important qualitative information to go with the quantitative stats. It also serves up important rallying points for community growth. - Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Declan and
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of the education curriculum for all sectors and levels. The advantage of WikiEducator's experimenting with high bandwidth examples is that we may find creative solutions that we would not have otherwise considered. For example, with our wiki == pdf technology we could develop print specific templates for rich media (eg audio and video.) It would be technically possible with our architecture when opting for a printed version of WE content, that the parser could generate an ISO CDROM image of the rich media and automatically reference this in the printed study guide. In the text an activity might say -- Go and look at Video Number 7 on your CDROM and answer the following questions. The CDROM could then be posted with the print editions of the study guides produced in WIkiEducator. Remote leaners could then view the videos at local Internet cafes or mutli-purpose comunity centres. I'll send Brian an email and ask whether he wants to pop over to our list and bring us up to date with activities at UBC. Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 09:08 -0700, Peter wrote: While I agree with Leigh's inferred sentiments about Brian. This promotion begs a question for me. Should we be focusing on high bandwidth content at this time? Given what I perceive as the mission of WE to focus more on the developing world shouldn't our focus be on low bandwidth content? Shouldn't we focus on context, quality, infrastructure, localization and reuse issues? Before we focus on high- bandwidth technologies? And Yes, I do perceive Brian as a high-bandwidth guy... He increasingly enjoys and leverages high bandwidth technologies... My $0.02 worth, I certainly home Brian jumps into this discussion thread... Peter On Jun 7, 9:42 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yip -- I first met Brian when I joined Auckland uni back in 2002. Brian rocks. Brian knows about WE and has posted about us a few times on abject learning. We see each other about 2 or three times a year. We are planning to run an L4C workshop at UBC. BTW UBC are working on some impressive code for Mediawiki for aggregating courses through RSS. This is something we might be able to implement in the future. The downside is that UBC is a very traditional and conservative uni - -so having examples of progressive IP policies are important beacons smile. Cheers W On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 20:42 +1200, Leigh Blackall wro http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/brian/archives/046602.php -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users;congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hi Savithri -- We use a golf-like handicap system, whereby those with connectivity challenges get at least 10 free edits for one they are able to make on a low bandwidth connection smile. This way you will easily be the top editor in WE. On a more serious note -- Using Open Office for offline editing is an alternative. This way you can get most of your formatting done offline. Then you can cut and paste the relevant page in a single edit session on WE. See: http://wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Editing_using_open_office There will still be challenges with images -- but at least this will make editing on WE a tad easier on a low bandwidth connection. Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 20:33 +0530, Savithri Singh wrote: Hi, Am glad am on the list. Cannot compete since besides other things speeds are real low. Takes me forever and repeated tries to even make a minor edit. U can see the log to check this. Am depending on the community to solve this!! Cheers 2008/6/9 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users;congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hi Peter -- of course! As long as we don't need to play using OZ rules smile and waiting to see if a prominent OZ WikiEducator living in NZ will take up the bait! Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 09:41 -0700, Peter wrote: Hello All, I certainly hope my last post regarding competitive WE editing was taken tongue-in-cheek... What is so great about WE is its supportive and non-competitive community... Peter On Jun 9, 9:27 am, Patricia Schlicht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Savithri, No worries, this is not a competition, it just lies in the nature of the things we all are doing and once you get more involved, this will automatically increase. Thank you very much for your contributions. They have been great. Warmest, Patricia From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Savithri Singh Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:03 AM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone Hi, Am glad am on the list. Cannot compete since besides other things speeds are real low. Takes me forever and repeated tries to even make a minor edit. U can see the log to check this. Am depending on the community to solve this!! Cheers 2008/6/9 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the rigour of an international agency like COL -- We are fortunate that we can institute a robust ME plan to objectively justify our success. Gee --- these are exciting times! Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:08 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Wayne et al, As we tally up the stats - it might be helpful if we have some kind of explanation as to why it has occurred. For example, in terms of numbers of active users...or edits, where there are spikes in the
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hi Peter et al, I'm looking forward to the challenge! NZ rugby, Canadian hockey - do we have a unique sport in West Africa or Brazil? I've just peeked behind my shoulder, and I can see that you have a 2nd wind...gotta ramp up my game... And yes, I find this humourous and fun, but I also recognize that the friendly 'competitive aspect' of this might be unfamiliar or not fun to others. - Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ewww... This going to be fun. I'm in 8th spot And I figure with some concerted effort I could challenge Leigh or Randy for third or fourth spot. Patricia and Wayne may be out of touch, but look out Leigh and Randy I can see you on the horizon... Maybe we can turn wiki editing into a competative sport (maybe even have it as full contact, some hybrid between NZ rules rugby and Canadian hockey... ;) get some sponsorships... who knows... Cheers, Peter On Jun 8, 9:02 pm, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If WE could find more folks who are Done Eatin', then WE might even be able to grow even faster! smile belly laugh Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Leigh, I'll be sleeping less in the future knowing that you're close on my tail on the number of edits. Remember I had a head start before you joined the community. I'm going to struggle to keep up with those folk down in Dunedin! Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: Holy hell Wayne!! I know that I am flat out editing the Wiki and you do more than 3 times the amount I do!! Do you sleep? Those stats are great to see. Thanks Jim, thanks Wayne for announcing them. Great to see Otago Poly people high up th -- e list On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Randy -- Absolutely! We need to map our stats to key community events in Wikieducator, for example wiki == pdf, Kaltura, the launch of the Learning4Content project etc. I think we also need to see how our institutional-based leaders have contributed to our collective successes. For example: - Otago Polytechnic ( http://wikieducator.org/Otago_Polytechnic:_An_IP_policy_for_the_times), - the University of Education, Winneba in Ghana ( http://wikieducator.org/UEW) - FLOSS4Edu (http://wikieducator.org/FLOSS4Edu) pioneered in Africa and many more. COL has commissioned an independent monitoring and evaluation expert in ICTs for development to assist us in understanding our community achievements in relation to achieving our strategic objectives. WikiEducator is very fortunate to have the expert guidance of Dr Jonathin Miller, one of the coauthors of the World Bank's handbook on Monitoring and Evaluation of ICT in Education Projects ( http://www.infodev.org/en/Publication.9.html). WE are privileged to have this calibre of expertise in assisting our community. I'm very excited by these developments and very soon we will post the draft log frame for our community to consider and provide feedback. (This is a document used in the ME world for measuring our successes against strategic objectives). We will need the help of all WikiEducators in assisting us to track data (both quantitative and qualitative). In this way we can collectively plan the way forward for our project. Given the rigour of an international agency like COL -- We are fortunate that we can institute a robust ME plan to objectively justify our success. Gee --- these are exciting times! Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:08 -0700, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Wayne et al, As we tally up the stats - it might be helpful if we have some kind of explanation as to why it has occurred. For example, in terms of numbers of active users...or edits, where there are spikes in the numbersa companion legend...I recall that when WE made the Print-to-PDF announcement, there was a spike in the numbersThis is important qualitative information to go with the quantitative stats. It also serves up important rallying points for community growth. - Randy On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, Declan and WE friends, In line with Mark Twain's famous quotation -- There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. ( http://www.twainquotes.com/Statistics.html) -- Let's take a look at some of the WE stats. By comparable wiki standards, WikiEducator is a productive community and I hope that we get better at what we do. With BIG thanks to Jim Tittsler who spends cold Sunday's in Gisborne, NZ helping WE with his technical wizardry. Jim has adapted and run a script developed by Erik Zachte (http://infodisiac.com/) to analyse WE activity in a little more detail. We
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of the education curriculum for all sectors and levels. The advantage of WikiEducator's experimenting with high bandwidth examples is that we may find creative solutions that we would not have otherwise considered. For example, with our wiki == pdf technology we could develop print specific templates for rich media (eg audio and video.) It would be technically possible with our architecture when opting for a printed version of WE content, that the parser could generate an ISO CDROM image of the rich media and automatically reference this in the printed study guide. In the text an activity might say -- Go and look at Video Number 7 on your CDROM and answer the following questions. The CDROM could then be posted with the print editions of the study guides produced in WIkiEducator. Remote leaners could then view the videos at local Internet cafes or mutli-purpose comunity centres. I'll send Brian an email and ask whether he wants to pop over to our list and bring us up to date with activities at UBC. Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 09:08 -0700, Peter wrote: While I agree with Leigh's inferred sentiments about Brian. This promotion begs a question for me. Should we be focusing on high bandwidth content at this time? Given what I perceive as the mission of WE to focus more on the developing world shouldn't our focus be on low bandwidth content? Shouldn't we focus on context, quality, infrastructure, localization and reuse issues? Before we focus on high- bandwidth technologies? And Yes, I do perceive Brian as a high-bandwidth guy... He increasingly enjoys and leverages high bandwidth technologies... My $0.02 worth, I certainly home Brian jumps into this discussion thread... Peter On Jun 7, 9:42 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yip -- I first met Brian when I joined Auckland uni back in 2002. Brian rocks. Brian knows about WE and has posted about us a few times on abject learning. We see each other about 2 or three times a year. We are planning to run an L4C workshop at UBC. BTW UBC are working on some impressive code for Mediawiki for aggregating courses through RSS. This is something we might be able to implement in the future. The downside is that UBC is a very traditional and conservative uni - -so having examples of progressive IP policies are important beacons smile. Cheers W On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 20:42 +1200, Leigh Blackall wro http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/brian/archives/046602.php -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change, Connections and Collaboration to Improve Performance. * Engaging People in Teams, Communities and Organizationsand WikiEducator! + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wikieducator.com www.wikieducator.com/User:Randyfisher Skype: wikirandy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of the education curriculum for all sectors and levels. The advantage of WikiEducator's experimenting with high bandwidth examples is that we may find creative solutions that we would not have otherwise considered. For example, with our wiki == pdf technology we could develop print specific templates for rich media (eg audio and video.) It would be technically possible with our architecture when opting for a printed version of WE content, that the parser could generate an ISO CDROM image of the rich media and automatically reference this in the printed study guide. In the text an activity might say -- Go and look at Video Number 7 on your CDROM and answer the following questions. The CDROM could then be posted with the print editions of the study guides produced in WIkiEducator. Remote leaners could then view the videos at local Internet cafes or mutli-purpose comunity centres. I'll send Brian an email and ask whether he wants to pop over to our list and bring us up to date with activities at UBC. Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 09:08 -0700, Peter wrote: While I agree with Leigh's inferred sentiments about Brian. This promotion begs a question for me. Should we be focusing on high bandwidth content at this time? Given what I perceive as the mission of WE to focus more on the developing world shouldn't our focus be on low bandwidth content? Shouldn't we focus on context, quality, infrastructure, localization and reuse issues? Before we focus on high- bandwidth technologies? And Yes, I do perceive Brian as a high-bandwidth guy... He increasingly enjoys and leverages high bandwidth technologies... My $0.02 worth, I certainly home Brian jumps into this discussion thread... Peter On Jun 7, 9:42 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yip -- I first met Brian when I joined Auckland uni back in 2002. Brian rocks. Brian knows about WE and has posted about us a few times on abject learning. We see each other about 2 or three times a year. We are planning to run an L4C workshop at UBC. BTW UBC are working on some impressive code for Mediawiki for aggregating courses through RSS. This is something we might be able to implement in the future. The downside is that UBC is a very traditional and conservative uni - -so having examples of progressive IP policies are important beacons smile. Cheers W On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 20:42 +1200, Leigh Blackall wro http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/brian/archives/046602.php -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change, Connections and Collaboration to Improve Performance. * Engaging People in
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of the education curriculum for all sectors and levels. The advantage of WikiEducator's experimenting with high bandwidth examples is that we may find creative solutions that we would not have otherwise considered. For example, with our wiki == pdf technology we could develop print specific templates for rich media (eg audio and video.) It would be technically possible with our architecture when opting for a printed version of WE content, that the parser could generate an ISO CDROM image of the rich media and automatically reference this in the printed study guide. In the text an activity might say -- Go and look at Video Number 7 on your CDROM and answer the following questions. The CDROM could then be posted with the print editions of the study guides produced in WIkiEducator. Remote leaners could then view the videos at local Internet cafes or mutli-purpose comunity centres. I'll send Brian an email and ask whether he wants to pop over to our list and bring us up to date with activities at UBC. Cheers Wayne On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 09:08 -0700, Peter wrote: While I agree with Leigh's inferred sentiments about Brian. This promotion begs a question for me. Should we be focusing on high bandwidth content at this time? Given what I perceive as the mission of WE to focus more on the developing world shouldn't our focus be on low bandwidth content? Shouldn't we focus on context, quality, infrastructure, localization and reuse issues? Before we focus on high- bandwidth technologies? And Yes, I do perceive Brian as a high-bandwidth guy... He increasingly enjoys and leverages high bandwidth technologies... My $0.02 worth, I certainly home Brian jumps into this discussion thread... Peter On Jun 7, 9:42 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yip -- I first met Brian when I joined Auckland uni back in 2002. Brian rocks. Brian knows about WE and has posted about us a few times on abject learning. We see each other about 2 or three times a year. We are planning to run an L4C workshop at UBC. BTW UBC are working on some impressive code for Mediawiki for aggregating courses through RSS. This is something we might be able to implement in the future. The downside is that UBC is a very traditional and conservative uni - -so having examples of progressive IP policies are important beacons smile. Cheers W On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 20:42 +1200, Leigh Blackall wro http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/brian/archives/046602.php -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com- Hide quoted
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
Hi Leigh -- Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on. Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to disaggregate content from its delivery technology. I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes we need to use legacy carrier technologies. A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the envelope in a responsible way. Cheers Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: 67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free
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Hi Leigh, That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display size problem in WE? Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos. Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these videos. So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv would be a big advance for us. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh -- Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on. Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to disaggregate content from its delivery technology. I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes we need to use legacy carrier technologies. A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the envelope in a responsible way. Cheers Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: 67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My
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Blip.tv has a feature where you can custom the display size of the video. It has a great number of other features as well - including support for Creative Commons, and the ability to cross upload to Archive.org It is at Archive.org where they have the technology to create CDs and books quickly. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display size problem in WE? Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos. Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these videos. So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv would be a big advance for us. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh -- Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on. Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to disaggregate content from its delivery technology. I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes we need to use legacy carrier technologies. A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the envelope in a responsible way. Cheers Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: 67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of the education curriculum for all sectors and levels. The advantage of WikiEducator's experimenting with high bandwidth examples is that we may find creative solutions that we
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Hey there - just to let you know - Archive.org is connected to the same folks as Zotero. - Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blip.tv has a feature where you can custom the display size of the video. It has a great number of other features as well - including support for Creative Commons, and the ability to cross upload to Archive.org It is at Archive.org where they have the technology to create CDs and books quickly. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display size problem in WE? Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos. Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these videos. So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv would be a big advance for us. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh -- Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on. Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to disaggregate content from its delivery technology. I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes we need to use legacy carrier technologies. A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the envelope in a responsible way. Cheers Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: 67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
For those with broadband or with amazing patience, here is a video on how to load Blip.tv RSS into Wikieducator, and control the display size: http://leighblackall.blip.tv/file/978335/ If anyone has time to create a printable version from this.. great! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display size problem in WE? Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos. Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these videos. So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv would be a big advance for us. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh -- Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on. Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to disaggregate content from its delivery technology. I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes we need to use legacy carrier technologies. A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the envelope in a responsible way. Cheers Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: 67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by developing a free alternative of the education curriculum for all sectors and levels. The advantage of WikiEducator's experimenting with high bandwidth examples is that we may find creative solutions that we would not have otherwise considered. For
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
Here is the version of the video on Archive.org where they have a generated a 2.5meg ogg version. http://www.archive.org/details/LeighBlackall-BliptvRSSIntoWikieducator940 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those with broadband or with amazing patience, here is a video on how to load Blip.tv RSS into Wikieducator, and control the display size: http://leighblackall.blip.tv/file/978335/ If anyone has time to create a printable version from this.. great! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh, That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display size problem in WE? Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos. Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these videos. So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv would be a big advance for us. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh -- Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on. Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to disaggregate content from its delivery technology. I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes we need to use legacy carrier technologies. A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the envelope in a responsible way. Cheers Wayne On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote: 67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. It is Tasmania that is 68% On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k. 33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why would I do such a thing? I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth users is too simplistic and not helpful. With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth, expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think laterally. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Good exchange of perspectives - I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-) http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Community_building_strategy#Reconciling_High-_and_Low-Bandwidth_Approaches Randy On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WE friends, These are tough challenges. My personal view is that we should try to promote and support both low bandwidth and high bandwidth approaches in our collective mission-- with one caveat, that is to find creative ways of transforming high bandwidth solutions for low-bandwidth technologies. One of our core values is that of social inclusion and the notion that access to ICTs is a fundamental right of knowledge citizens. This is not to say that we should negate our primary focus in connecting the unconnected and turning the digital divide into digital dividends. I think WE has performed admirably in the latter with our wiki == print technology being a show case example. Speaking with colleagues in Africa, I believe we have a far greater challenge than access to ICTs and that it access to free content. Access to the Internet will improve all over the world over time and we need to prepare for this eventuality by
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Smart work Leigh ...
I'm thinking that we should try creating a Blip TV rss feed template.
Perhaps something along the lines of:
{{Bliptv|rss=rss url goes here|file=url for file download goes here|
license=CC-BY etc.}}
The template would automatically insert the rss tags, do the layout for
the display in WE, show the BlipTV icon, a link to the file download and
license display.
Hey maybe CountryMike wants to have a bash at experimenting with this?
Cheers
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:12 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
Here is the version of the video on Archive.org where they have a
generated a 2.5meg ogg version.
http://www.archive.org/details/LeighBlackall-BliptvRSSIntoWikieducator940
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Leigh Blackall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those with broadband or with amazing patience, here is a
video on how to load Blip.tv RSS into Wikieducator, and
control the display size:
http://leighblackall.blip.tv/file/978335/
If anyone has time to create a printable version from this..
great!
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Leigh,
That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you
sort out the display size problem in WE?
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall
wrote:
I will produce a screen recording to start the
resources for using Blip.tv RSS feeds in
Wikieducator so as to embed videos.
Here is an example to start us off
http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture
Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not
have access to these videos.
So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS
feed from Blip.tv would be a big advance for us.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Leigh --
Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very
impressive! Would you consider developing a
tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do
this. We still need a tutorial on the rss
extension -- and the video can be a
sub-section. So holding thumbs that you will
consider taking this on.
Without being facetious --- A CDROM
transported by bicycle to remote rural areas
is broadband connectivity for asynchronous
learning. I think what we are trying to say
is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse
to exclude learners from rich multimedia
learning experiences that are possible
through video etc. At a rudimentary level
both CD's and Internet are carrier
technologies as well. Storing data
digitally in open formats allows us to
disaggregate content from its delivery
technology.
I don't think that our approach in
WikiEducator to cater for multiple bandwidth
scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary,
I believe that we're being quite innovative
in tackling the challenge. That said -- the
reality for billions of learners is that
they will not be privileged to experience
the real power of social software ---
however, if we're smart we can achieve
social networking through a variety of
technologies -- albeit that sometimes we
need to use legacy carrier technologies.
A few further thoughts to this evolving
discussion on how we can push the envelope
in a responsible way.
Cheers
Wayne
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users; congratulationsonanothermilestone
Wow, Fun discussion! Competition sounds like fun. Honestly I think folks motivated in that way will enjoy it, and others won't care. I don't really see this group getting remotely cut-throat! It has thus far been a friendly and helpful group with the common good in mind. Thanks for the statistics, very illuminating. I wonder if seasonal/ academic calendar patterns will emerge. Regardless, congrats to all. Declan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: 4,000+ users;congratulationsonanothermilestone
Hi Declan On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 18:33 -0700, Declan wrote: Thanks for the statistics, very illuminating. I wonder if seasonal/ academic calendar patterns will emerge. I think we will see seasonal traffic patterns. In 2007 we saw a drop in traffic during the Northern Hemisphere summer holidays, and I've noticed a drop in unique visits the past week. It will be interesting to compare the 2007 decrease in traffic with the 2008 decrease in traffic. Cheers Wayne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
on a somewhat related note... i added the rss tags to create an RSS page
from the Horticulture page, just as an experiment and you can now create a
sort of aggregate RSS feed that includes the content from the blip feed as
well as the content within the wikied page. if you have a reader you can
take a look at this:
http://www.wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Horticultureaction=feedfeed=rss
to get an idea of what i'm talking about.
brent
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Smart work Leigh ...
I'm thinking that we should try creating a Blip TV rss feed template.
Perhaps something along the lines of:
{{Bliptv|rss=rss url goes here|file=url for file download goes
here|license=CC-BY etc.}}
The template would automatically insert the rss tags, do the layout for the
display in WE, show the BlipTV icon, a link to the file download and license
display.
Hey maybe CountryMike wants to have a bash at experimenting with this?
Cheers
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:12 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
Here is the version of the video on Archive.org where they have a generated
a 2.5meg ogg version.
http://www.archive.org/details/LeighBlackall-BliptvRSSIntoWikieducator940
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
For those with broadband or with amazing patience, here is a video on how
to load Blip.tv RSS into Wikieducator, and control the display size:
http://leighblackall.blip.tv/file/978335/
If anyone has time to create a printable version from this.. great!
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Leigh,
That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display
size problem in WE?
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv
RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos.
Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture
Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these
videos.
So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv would
be a big advance for us.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Leigh --
Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider
developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a
tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So
holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on.
Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural
areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we
are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude
learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through
video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier
technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to
disaggregate content from its delivery technology.
I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple
bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're
being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality
for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience
the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve
social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes
we need to use legacy carrier technologies.
A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the
envelope in a responsible way.
Cheers
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k.
It is Tasmania that is 68%
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k.
33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in this
context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies.. why
would I do such a thing?
I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth
users is too simplistic and not helpful.
With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth,
expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways
to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly
suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian
would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think
laterally.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Randy Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Good exchange of perspectives -
I've added the gist of the comments to the Community Building Strategy
page. (Hilaryp didn't have to ask this time... :-)
[WikiEducator] Re: PLEASE GET BRIAN LAMB WITH WIKIEDUCATOR
should add that i did that in response to looking at this blog post today:
http://jimgroom.umwblogs.org/2008/02/17/proud-spammer-of-open-university-courses/
which I found kind of interesting in an interoperable/mash-up kind of way.
brent.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on a somewhat related note... i added the rss tags to create an RSS page
from the Horticulture page, just as an experiment and you can now create a
sort of aggregate RSS feed that includes the content from the blip feed as
well as the content within the wikied page. if you have a reader you can
take a look at this:
http://www.wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Horticultureaction=feedfeed=rss
to get an idea of what i'm talking about.
brent
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Smart work Leigh ...
I'm thinking that we should try creating a Blip TV rss feed template.
Perhaps something along the lines of:
{{Bliptv|rss=rss url goes here|file=url for file download goes
here|license=CC-BY etc.}}
The template would automatically insert the rss tags, do the layout for
the display in WE, show the BlipTV icon, a link to the file download and
license display.
Hey maybe CountryMike wants to have a bash at experimenting with this?
Cheers
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:12 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
Here is the version of the video on Archive.org where they have a
generated a 2.5meg ogg version.
http://www.archive.org/details/LeighBlackall-BliptvRSSIntoWikieducator940
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Leigh Blackall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those with broadband or with amazing patience, here is a video on how
to load Blip.tv RSS into Wikieducator, and control the display size:
http://leighblackall.blip.tv/file/978335/
If anyone has time to create a printable version from this.. great!
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Leigh,
That will be a good start. Thankx. BTW, how did you sort out the display
size problem in WE?
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:47 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
I will produce a screen recording to start the resources for using Blip.tv
RSS feeds in Wikieducator so as to embed videos.
Here is an example to start us off http://wikieducator.org/Horticulture
Remember - 67% of the primary target market do not have access to these
videos.
So the CD content that can be generated from an RSS feed from Blip.tv
would be a big advance for us.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Leigh --
Your video RSS feeds from Blip TV are very impressive! Would you consider
developing a tutorial for WikiEducators on how to do this. We still need a
tutorial on the rss extension -- and the video can be a sub-section. So
holding thumbs that you will consider taking this on.
Without being facetious --- A CDROM transported by bicycle to remote rural
areas is broadband connectivity for asynchronous learning. I think what we
are trying to say is that connectivity shouldn't be an excuse to exclude
learners from rich multimedia learning experiences that are possible through
video etc. At a rudimentary level both CD's and Internet are carrier
technologies as well. Storing data digitally in open formats allows us to
disaggregate content from its delivery technology.
I don't think that our approach in WikiEducator to cater for multiple
bandwidth scenarios is simplistic -- on the contrary, I believe that we're
being quite innovative in tackling the challenge. That said -- the reality
for billions of learners is that they will not be privileged to experience
the real power of social software --- however, if we're smart we can achieve
social networking through a variety of technologies -- albeit that sometimes
we need to use legacy carrier technologies.
A few further thoughts to this evolving discussion on how we can push the
envelope in a responsible way.
Cheers
Wayne
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 09:16 +1200, Leigh Blackall wrote:
67% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k.
It is Tasmania that is 68%
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
68% of NZ is not connected to anything faster than 200k.
33% have no connection what-so-ever. 34% are on dial up. Yet, it is in
this context that I lobby for these so-called high bandwidth technologies..
why would I do such a thing?
I think the perspective of different services for low and high bandwidth
users is too simplistic and not helpful.
With the right people/designers all bandwidth issues (low bandwidth,
expensive bandwidth, no bandwidth) - we would more likely find manymore ways
to bridge the gaps that are not being explored yet. This is why I strongly
suggest bringing people like Brian Lamb into our work. People like Brian
would do wonders for the effort because of their proven abilities to think
laterally.
On Tue, Jun
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